Hi there, Diane list admin here. Is there anyone on this list that need any help with research from anybody? There hasn't been much going on with this list for a while! Hoping to hear from you soon. Diane list admin
Hi Listers, Thanks to list admin Diane for raising the Claypoole research issue. In my opinion, more objective research (in primary documents and records which can be cited) is required to answer significant questions, which should include the following: 1. Did the children of (Sir) John Cleypole/Claypole/Claypoole, 1595-1660, who remained in England produce lines that have living descendants, either still in England or elsewhere? 2. Did the siblings of (Sir) John Cleypole/Claypole/Claypoole, 1595-1660, or other offspring of Sir John's Cleypole/Claypole/Claypoole ancestors, produce lines that have living descendants, either still in England or elsewhere? 3. John Claypoole, 1752-1817, of Philadelphia, initially served in the U.S. Army during the Revolutionary War. Later in the war, he shipped out on the Luzerne, a U.S. privateer. In the 2nd half of 1781, the ship and its crew were captured by a British privateer and John became a POW in Mill Hill prison, Plymouth, Devon, England. Before and during his captivity, he kept a 'memorandum book' and in the back of that book, he wrote a number of addresses including "Benjamin West, Newman Street, London" (BW was the celebrated artist/painter, born at Swarthmore, Pa) and "Haslam and Cleypole, cyder merchants and Fruiterers No. 75 upper Thames Street, London". Until 1787, Benjamin Cleypole was a partner in Haslam & Cleypole and later married Ann Haslam on May 28, 1789, at Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London. The John Claypoole in question became the 3rd husband of Elizabeth Griscom Ross Ashurst, aka 'Betsy Ross'. The $64 question is: what was the familial relationship, if any, between John Claypoole of Philadelphia, Pa and Benjamin Cleypole of London, England? 4. Who was the father of James Claypole/Claypoole c1742- c1813, latterly of Armstrong Co, Pa, USA? (Please do not offer Evelyn Bracken's discredited version!) As a contribution/one place to start on at least one of the above questions, well researched work by Kathie Young on her ancestor, James Claypole/Claypoole, c1742- c1813, latterly of Armstrong Co, Pa and my definitive work on James Claypoole, Sr., 1721-1784(Gregorian calendar) of Philadelphia, Pa and James Claypoole, Jr., c1743-1822, of Philadelphia, Pa and Kingston, Jamaica, WI may be found at www.claypoolefamily.com It is generally accepted that the earliest Claypoole (this is how they spelled their own surname) named persons to arrive in North America were the brothers Norton Claypoole, 1640-1688, who arrived at New Jersey in mid 1678 (his wife, Rachel, and their children followed in 1681) and James Claypoole, 1634-1687, the Quaker, and his family (excluding son John, who arrived in 1682) landed at Philadelphia on October 1, 1683. The first published, definitive genealogy of these Claypooles and their early descendants is that by Rebecca Irwin Graff, namely Genealogy of the Claypoole Family of Philadelphia 1588-1893. J.B. Lippincott Company, Philadelphia, USA (1893). Following publication of the Ist edition, Graff received additional information from other Claypoole family descendants, which was published in Appendix II of the 1894, 2nd edition. Clearly, one of her correspondents was from the 'Maryland line', most likely Julia Ann Claypoole Rasin, 1840-1899, of Baltimore. Julia Rasin was a daughter of Capt. John Claypoole, 1803-1883, and a 4 x greatgranddaughter of James Claypoole, 1634-1687, the Quaker. Consequently, Appendix II, pp v-ix has a very accurate genealogy of early Maryland Claypooles family descendants, from Nathaniel Claypoole, 1672-1714, to Regina Alice Rasin, b. 1883. One way of connecting (or differentiating) males carrying the Claypoole/Claypool/Claypole/Cleypole etc surname is by testing their yDNA, the test results being available for comparison with each other, which in turn can indicate those individuals who are likely to share a common ancestor. A benchmark yDNA is already available, linked to a well researched 'paper' genealogy, from a male descendant of the Claypoole family of Northborough, Northamptonshire, England. For more information on the Claypoole etc Surname yDNA Project, go to http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Claypoole and/or http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/claypoole and/or http://www.ysearch.org/ (click on 'Search by last name' tab) and key in "claypoole, claypool, claypole" For those interested in/users of social media, checkout 'Claypoole Connection' at Facebook which currently has 160 members, go to https://www.facebook.com/groups/225184095526/ I am always interested in talking to and working collaboratively with serious researchers who are prepare to commit time and resources to Claypoole family history research. Max