Donna, When you mentioned Thomas Clarke was born Thorne, I wondered if there might be a connection, however the birthdate seemed to be too late for that possibility. You have, however, mentioned Baptist Clark, who is connected with a Clark line I'm working on. I need for you to run back through your Clark line, including dates, for me. There was a Baptist Clark in Randolph County, NC, who we know was related to Samuel Clark who died in Randolph County on 6 Sep 1783. (Note to list: Many have identified his wife as Elizabeth Bennett, however there is proof that the Samuel Clark of Burlington, NJ, who married Elizabeth Bennett is not this Samuel Clark.) We do not know the identity of the wife of Samuel Clark, however there is a close relationship with Samuel's neighbor, Edward Thornborough (sound familiar?). Both of these men were plantation owners; Samuel was a slave owner and a devout Presbyterian. His sons were as follows: Thomas b. abt. 1743 York Co, PA m. Sarah Clark Edward b. abt. 1745 York Co, PA m. Rachel Brattain Samuel E. b. Oct 1748 York Co, PA George b. 22 Jun 1749 York Co, PA William b. 1753 York Co, PA m. Eleanor Dougan Joseph b. abt. 1756 John b. 1759 Randolph Co NC m. Mary Spencer (possibly) a daughter b. abt. 1761 Thomas Clark died on or about 11 Dec 1787 Randolph Co, NC (per noncupative will). (Not to be confused with Thomas Clark who died 25 Dec 1792.) The indications are that Samuel was the only one old enough to be considered an adult. He and his uncle Edward Clark were co-executors of the will. Thomas Sr. had the following children: Samuel Thomas Jr. Catherine m. William Webster Hannah d. unmarried Jane m. John Hilton; Hezekiah Gardner, Sr. Sarah m. Paul Bratton (nephew of Rachel Brattain) I am in the process of trying to determine if Samuel was, in fact, my husband's ancestor Samuel Clark who came to Wayne County, KY, ca. 1807. Paul & Sarah Bratton migrated to western Tennessee; their children migrated to Arkansas. I do not know where Thomas Jr. went. Going back to Baptist Clark, Dr. Thomas Hamm has found Baptist Clark in the household of the elder Samuel Clark in early NC records. This would appear to indicate that Baptist Clark was closely related to Samuel Clark. Baptist Clark may be found in early Randolph Co, NC, records. I have also found a Baptist Clark in early Kentucky records who may be the same one; however at the time I had no idea there might be a connection, and have not kept that information. What I saw was that Baptist Clark was murdered and that his wife and children moved to Arkansas. Oh, and one more thing, there were at least two men by the name of Baptist Clark, one older and one younger. Please note that I am still very new to researching this line, as well, and above mentioned dates are subject to correction. Fay Clark ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Donna" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:24:21 -0500 >Hi Edie, > >I do have a relative who has done extensive research on my mom's side >(Clarkes) but I guess to do this properly I would have to get my own proof >of all info. My relative was stymied by the time he got to father of James >Clark, my gr. gr. grandfather. Thinks it was Thomas and Thomas' dad was >Richard, but we really don't know as well as we don't know where in PA they >came from when they moved down the Cumberland Gap toward NC. There is one >unusual name in their line, which is Baptist(e) Clark. Have followed that >one as far back as I can with no clues. I guess that's what makes this so >interesting. Thanks! > >Donna >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:19 AM >Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire about 1803 > > >> HI Donna, start with yourself and work back to your furthest known >ancestor, >> then maybe the Family Search will help for clues. You should be able to >get >> back to your Grandfather and possible Great Grandfather. If you know >there >> siblings that will help as well. There maybe some one on the list who is >> just lurking waiting to hear from you. Once you have your furthest >ancestor >> you can hopefully obtain a certificate of birth which will give his >parents >> and so forth. Hopefully someone has done your line. You can also go into >> the family search and do a All sources search on your furthest known >> ancestor. What usually comes up is the Ancestral file, IGI, and other >> sources. There are lots of lists and websites with certin Clarke/Clark >> families. Just a start. >> >> Edie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Donna" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire about >1803 >> >> >> > Edie, >> > >> > I am not sure whether the Clarkes on this list are any of my family or >> not. >> > I'm not even sure how to go about researching it. Where do I look to >find >> > out? >> > >> > Donna >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:16 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire about >> 1803 >> > >> > >> > > Hi Donna, Is this your 'Richard >> > > http://members.aol.com/calebj/passenger.html >> > > Edie >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Donna" <[email protected]> >> > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:30 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire about >> > 1803 >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks Edie. I guess he probably came over to USA sometime after >> 1630 >> > or >> > > > so. Will keep looking. Thanks. >> > > > >> > > > Donna >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <[email protected]> >> > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:06 PM >> > > > Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire >about >> > > 1803 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi Donna, >> > > > > I cannot help you with the place and date of Richard Clarkes >death. >> > It >> > > > > doesn't mention anymore than he died there in Pennyslvania. I >think >> > it >> > > > > would be around late 1600 to early to mid 1700s judging by two >> > > generations >> > > > > after it is still into late 1700's. Doesn't mention any other >> Clarkes >> > > > going >> > > > > to USA. So this Richard may have started a line or two. His >father >> > was >> > > > > Richard also. If your Richard was the son of Richard, maybe that >is >> a >> > > > clue. >> > > > > >> > > > > Sorry I cannot be of more help. >> > > > > Edie >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > From: "Donna" <[email protected]> >> > > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:55 PM >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire >> about >> > > > 1803 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Edie, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Do you know where and when this Richard Clarke died in PA? I >have >> a >> > > > > > Richard, Thomas, and Samuel Clarke in my line, and some of our >> > family >> > > > says >> > > > > > they moved from PA to NC, TN, and then AR. >> > > > > > Donna >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > From: "Rob and Edie McArthur" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:48 PM >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire >> > about >> > > > > 1803 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > HI, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I thought I was able to help as I have some old Clarke >Pedigrees >> > out >> > > > of >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > > old books such as Familie Minorum Gentilum. Some of the early >> > ones >> > > of >> > > > > the >> > > > > > > 16 hundreds came from around Wakefield, Yorks or sheffield and >> > other >> > > > > > places. >> > > > > > > Then There is another peidgree from the Pedigree Register, >this >> > > mainly >> > > > > > > covers places in Lancashire. Such as Liverpool. this family >was >> > > said >> > > > to >> > > > > > > have come from Ireland originally. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > One that may interest families in the USA is a Richard who >died >> > in >> > > > > > > Pennyslvannia. He was the son of Richard Clarke of the Angel >in >> > > > > > > Chesterfield, vinter. He is called John in Mr Homfray's >> pedigree, >> > > but >> > > > > > > erroneoulsly. I do not have that page from that book. Anyway >> > > > Richards >> > > > > > > mother was Ann Shaw, died 7 Jan 1690-. Richard the fathers >> fther >> > > was >> > > > > > Ralph >> > > > > > > Clarke of Chesterfield, vinter. it says see page 145. I sdo >not >> > > seem >> > > > to >> > > > > > > have that so anyone interested would have to get the Famillae >> > > Minorum >> > > > > > > Gentium MS 135, Nit sure f that is the volume number. this >> will >> > > > > continue >> > > > > > > that family Line. >> > > > > > > Richard who died in Pennyslvannia had a brother Sir Samuel >> Clarke, >> > > > Kent, >> > > > > > of >> > > > > > > London, citizen and Skinner; Knighted 14th June 1712. And >also >> a >> > > > sister >> > > > > > > Mary Clarke, wife of John Wingfield. >> > > > > > > Can't understand why I didn't copy all of the Clarke pages. I >> > must >> > > > have >> > > > > > run >> > > > > > > out of time when we were briefly living in England on a >working >> > > > holiday >> > > > > a >> > > > > > > few years back. British library have these books as do most >> major >> > > > > Egnlsih >> > > > > > > libraries and overseas reference libraries in some cases. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Edie >> > > > > > > Tasmania >> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > > From: <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 9:23 PM >> > > > > > > Subject: [Clarke-Clark] Thomas CLARKE born Thorne, Yorkshire >> about >> > > > 1803 >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this >mailing >> > > list. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Surnames: Clarke >> > > > > > > > Classification: Query >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Message Board URL: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mBJ.2ACEB/1276 >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Message Board Post: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Seeking descendants of Thomas Clarke and Elizabeth Latham of >> > > Thorne, >> > > > > > > Yorkshire (married about 1832) >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> > > > > > > > Message Board > Clarke >> > > > > > > > >> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.clarke >> > > > > > > > List Manager's address [email protected] >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> > > > > > > CLARKE Resources at RootsWeb - is your Clark-Clarke webpage >> linked >> > > > here? >> > > > > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames/c/l/CLARKE/ >> > > > > > > List Manager's address [email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> > > > > > Search, Subscribe & Unsubscribe CLARKE-L >> > > > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/clarke.html >> > > > > > List Manager's address [email protected] >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> > > > > Message Board > Clarke >> > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.clarke >> > > > > List Manager's address [email protected] >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> > > > Message Board > Clarke >> > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.clarke >> > > > List Manager's address [email protected] >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> > > Message Board > Clarke >> > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.clarke >> > > List Manager's address [email protected] >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> > CLARKE Resources at RootsWeb - is your Clark-Clarke webpage linked here? >> > http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames/c/l/CLARKE/ >> > List Manager's address [email protected] >> > >> >> >> ==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >> CLARKE Archives & List search >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/clarke >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CLARKE >> > > >==== CLARKE Mailing List ==== >CLARKE Archives & List search >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/clarke >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CLARKE > > ________________________________________________________________ Sent Via Ethixs Online Mail-Clean Internet Access www.ethixs.com