Both Sue, <jjjse@famrc.org> ; and Bill Horton, <williamhorten@home.com> are members of the CLARKE-L forwarded here by the list manager for their convience and for the convience of anyone following this thread. Sue, List Manager for the CLARKE / CLARK surname. CLARKE-admin@rootsweb.com ((Not the same Sue mentioned above.)) ============ Sue <jjjse@famrc.org>, Please send to me a copy of the immigration papers about Patrick Jerome Clarke and especially James Clarke who may be my ancestor. Where did they live in Maryland before coming to Philadelphia? Thanks so much. Please send to: Bill Horten 4925 Madison Avenue San Diego, CA 92115-3302 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jjjse" jjjse@famrc.org To: <CLARKE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [CLARKE] James Clarke & family of Philadelphia Hi I read your note on this family, do you know if James had any brothers. I am looking for a Patrick Jerome Clarke who is my Grgrandfather, who came to US in the 1850's. I do have a copy of immigration papers that show he was in Maryland when he first arrived from Ireland. I also have papers that were included on a James Clarke, dont know if this is your James or not. My Patrick came from Cavan Co. Please let me know. THank you Sue jjjse@famrc.org -----Original Message----- From: Bill Horten <williamhorten@home.com To: CLARKE-L@rootsweb.com <CLARKE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: [CLARKE] James Clarke & family of Philadelphia Posted on: Clarke Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Clarke/10265 Surname: Clarke, Coleman, McCart, McCrory, Rumnap ------------------------- The Clarke Family of Philadelpha I am looking for my great great grandmother's family in Philadelphia. I am searching for James Clarke, his wife whose name is not remembered, and their children John Clarke, Mabel F. Clarke, and Mary Clarke of Philadelphia. It seems that James Clarke and his three sisters - Mary Alice Clarke, Hannah Clarke, and the third sister's name- unknown all immigrated from Ireland in the 1850s. They may all have first come to Baltimore, Maryland and then the brother James Clarke settled in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania or vice versa. Perhaps James served in the American Civil War and moved to Pennsylvania after his return. This is just speculation. Mary McCart One of the sisters was named Mary Alice Clarke. She was born in Ireland in 1843. Mary was married at the age of 19 to the American-born James McCart on January 12, 1862 at St. John the Evangelist Church in East Baltimore, Maryland. She went on to raise a large family in Baltimore. Jimmy Clarke Meanwhile her brother James (or Jimmy) Clarke was married and raising a family in Philadelphia. This more than likely was in the Kensington neighborhood of North Philadelphia in the parish of St. Michael Catholic Church. But I'm just guessing. His wife's name is unknown but he did have a son named John, and two daughters named Mabel F., and Mary. According to the Social Security Death Index, Mabel was born on October 5, 1888. Mabel grew up and married a man whose name was probably Charles W. Coleman in Philadelphia. Mabel died in April 1979 at the age of 91. The Baltimore McCart cousins did visit their Uncle Jimmy and family in Philadelphia. Great niece Barbara McCart remembered staying with the Clarke family while traveling to her honeymoon in Atlantic City with her new husband George Adelhardt in April 1919. Great nephew Jimmy McCart moved to Philadelphia in the 1920s and probably stayed with the Clarke family for awhile. Hannah McCrory Jimmy's other two sisters married and raised their families in Baltimore. Hannah married a man with the last name of McCrory and raised her three children - James J., Marie, and William Albert in a rowhome on East Eager Street in Baltimore. RUMNAP His third sister whose first name is unknown. Family legend has it that she married a man with the last name of Rumnap in Baltimore. They had three children - Henry, John, and Mary during the 1880s. The children must have been orphaned while still young because fifteen-year-old Mary Rumnap (born in 1885) is listed as living with her Uncle James McCart and family at 1519 E. Madison Street according to the 1900 Census records. If anyone can search the 1860 through 1920 census records for the James Clarke and family in Philadelphia, (or the McCarts, McCrorys, and Rumnaps in Baltimore) it would be greatly appreciated. Any other ideas about residences, churches, cemeteries, occupations, about these people would also be helpful to me. Thanks so much, Bill Horten San Diego, California williamhorten@home.com