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    1. [CLANS-L] Clan Donald
    2. Lucy Shore
    3. I have found a number of items that indicate that my 6th ggfather was one of the children carried out of Glencoe the night of the massacre. That particular line never returned to Glencoe. The earliest family member that like-minded researchers have been able to find was an Adam McDonald, presumably a son of the child carried out of the glen, a workman in Hamilton who, in 1738, married Margaret McKenna(n). The family generally moved more westerly and, by 1820, one of Adam's grandsons, John "the Patriarch" McDonald, left Lochwinnoch with his wife, brother-in-law, married children, grandchildren and other people from Lochwinnoch. They set sail from Greenock in April of 1820, landing in the Port of Quebec May 26, 1820 and were the first settlers in the Caledon West Twp. of the Home District. I would dearly love to find evidence of the Glencoe connection but have not been able to do so aside from a newspaper article naming a number of McDonalds (all descendants of "the Patriarch") as descendants of the Glencoe McDonalds and a letter from one descendant to another stating categorically that it was "the Patriarch's" great grandfather who was saved that night. I have checked the 3-volume history of Clan Donald, but have not been able to get any definitive information from it. Would anyone have any suggestions on how I might be able to get more information? Many thanks Lucy McDonald Shore

    01/31/1999 01:21:36
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] MacCrystal
    2. In a message dated 1/31/99 4:50:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, kathchoi@ilhawaii.net writes: << I've been researching an ancestress, Margaret Cristal, who emigrated from Sligo, Ireland, to Canada in 1848. On the ship roster, she and her father are listed as McChrystall. In researching the name, I read that it is originally Scottish and means "son of Christopher." Has anyone come across this surname, and does it belong to any clan? Aloha, Kathleen Choi >> MacCrystal - son of Cristal or Chrystal ( Lowland Scots diminutive of Christopher) I also have a referene which links the name to the Buchan District. There is no official Clan affiliation.

    01/31/1999 12:57:53
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] McDONALD from Glen Urquhart
    2. In a message dated 1/31/1999 4:13:27 PM Mountain Standard Time, barnie@saltspring.com writes: << Love this list! Could anyone help me with McDonald from Glen Urquhart. Finlay McDonald m. Ann McMillan (from Doshyengy, I think) and their 5 Children left Scotland on the "Sarah" in the spring of 1801 and arrived at Pictou, N.S. in the fall. >> There is a mailing list for Inverness-shire, in which Glen Urquhart is found. The name of the list is SCT-INVERNES-L and its home page is at <http://www.geocities.com/~brooms/ness>. You can find subscription information there. It's a great list with lots of helpful people on board. Also suggest you check out USA Clan Donald's site which has lots of useful links to organizations in Scotland and elsewhere in the world: <http://www.clan-donald-usa.org>. Cheers, Joe

    01/31/1999 12:29:36
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] THE PARTY
    2. In a message dated 1/31/1999 3:18:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, mcollins@sfths.sft434.k12.ks.us writes: << I have read that INGLIS is associated with Douglas Clan, is this correct? I have read conflicting info on NISBET, some say it is a clan, others say not. My Nesbit married YOUNG, I have found clan info, but cannot know how reliable it is. >> Yes, Inglis is associated with the Douglas Clan, which was a power in the Border region. Nesbit was associated with the Hume Clan. I suggest you check these names out with the "Clan Finder" at Gathering of the Clans at <www.tartans.com>, where you will find out more information. Joe

    01/31/1999 12:16:34
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] Walkers as formerly being McDonalds
    2. In a message dated 1/31/1999 3:10:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, Lucy_shore@UManitoba.ca writes: << I don't know whether any of you would be interested, but here is a little story I found in my research. This was submitted by a descendant of the McDonalds of Caledon West, now Peel County, Ontario. >> Interesting! I am racking my brain trying to remember where I saw it, but I do remember seeing reference somewhere in Deeside (i.e., a parish near the River Dee in Scotland) about a Macdonald who had escaped from Glencoe and come south. Joe

    01/31/1999 12:09:08
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] Clan Affiliations?
    2. In a message dated 1/31/1999 3:02:07 PM Mountain Standard Time, kinseeker4@juno.com writes: << Would someone please check and see what, if any, clan affiliations may be connected to these surnames: PEEBLES MACKIE >> Strongly suggest you visit <www.tartans.com> (Gathering of the Clans) and use their "Clan Finder" tool. Can say that Mackie is the phoenetic pronunciation of MacKay, and would therefore be a part of Clan MacKay, although I believe Clan Donald also claims some MacKays. Joe

    01/31/1999 12:04:14
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] McDONIEL/McDONALD
    2. In a message dated 1/31/1999 2:59:42 PM Mountain Standard Time, amcdonal@sheltonbbs.com writes: << I have several questions which maybe someone can answer for me. William Chapman MCDONIEL born abt 1778 maybe in Angus District, Scotland arrived in Philadelphia 9 Apr 1802, the original port of departure was the Isle of France. Where is the Isle of France? I did a search and didn't find it in Scotland. His parents are Charles McDONIEL and Margarete FORSTH. and his father Malcomb. The spelling has been a point of argument in our family for years. My father-in-law and descendants spell it McDONALD and all of the rest of the family still spells it MCDONIEL. >> The "Isle of France" could possibly be a reference to the Ile de France, which is the region around Paris. I realize this wouldn't be a port, but it's the only thing which makes sense of Isle of France. McDoniel is definitely a form of Macdonald. You should check out the following site: <www.clan-donald-usa.org>. It is the official site of Clan Donald in the USA and has lots and lots of useful information and links. Cheers, Joe Broom

    01/31/1999 12:01:54
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] COWAN from Melrose, Scotland
    2. In a message dated 1/31/99 3:13:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, barnie@saltspring.com writes: << I am trying to trace the Cowan family that emigrated to Armagh from Melrose,Scot. in 1600's. They then emigrated to Ontario in 1844? What clan do the COWAN'S belong to? and if anyone else has information that would help I would really appreciate it.Thanks. Barnie McDonald Cowan from Salt Spring Island, B.C. >> There is a Cowan tartan and the Name is a Recognized sept of MacFarlane, and Colquhoun. Le gach deagh dhurachd, Michael MacFarlane, Executive Vice President Clan MacFarlane Society, Inc. http://www.macfarlane.org http://www.celticsoul.com

    01/31/1999 11:33:12
    1. [CLANS-L] Casco 1718 ME
    2. Patricia Gregg
    3. Researching the MacGregors, Homes, Greggs, Cargills, Dunnings, Boyd, Clark, Woodside I was miffed today while researching in the History of Portland to find that Governor Shute knew full well of the impending Indian problems when he persuades the families to go to Casco in 1718 for the winter. Any details that are know of the ships "The Robert" or "The Macullum" would be appreciated. It seems the Scotch-Irish were more than frontier buffers but expendible. These families were form Ulster and originally the Greggs were from Ayrshire. Many of the leaders had fought in the seige of Londonderry. Any Info? patgregg@mediaone.net

    01/31/1999 11:10:39
    1. [CLANS-L] Kyle
    2. Pam Howard
    3. Is the name Kyle mentioned in the list of Clans? I have not been able to find it. I know that my Kyle line came from Ayrshire. If they were not part of a clan, can you tell me what that would mean. Please forgive my ignorance on this matter, I am just beginning to learn about my Scottish ancestry. Any help on my Kyle line is greatly appreciated. Pam

    01/31/1999 11:02:10
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] New to list
    2. In a message dated 1/31/99 2:23:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, Freckles6@webtv.net writes: << Hello one and all. I just want to add my names to the list. I am a Gordon by birth and my great grandfather James Gordon married Mary Bryceland in Greenock. I know the Gordo's are aclan however I cannot find anything about the name Bryceland. Can anyone give a push in the right direction? >> Bryceland is part of the Clan MacFarlane. For more info refer to our website www.macfarlane.org Le gach deagh dhurachd, Michael MacFarlane, Executive Vice President Clan MacFarlane Society, Inc. http://www.macfarlane.org http://www.celticsoul.com

    01/31/1999 10:30:19
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] Clan Cameron
    2. In a message dated 1/31/99 2:08:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, crussell@gtii.com writes: << I was just surfing about and found Clan Cameron website: http://www.fortunecity.com/bally/longford/44/index.html >> There is also one at www.cameron.org Le gach deagh dhurachd, Michael MacFarlane, Executive Vice President Clan MacFarlane Society, Inc. http://www.macfarlane.org http://www.celticsoul.com

    01/31/1999 10:24:08
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] Clan Affiliations?
    2. In a message dated 1/31/99 2:02:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, kinseeker4@juno.com writes: << PEEBLES- HAY MACKIE- Mackay KING- MacGregor or Colquhoun MACINDOE- Buchanan FOYAR- Originates in Mentieth District0 No Clan Affiliation ELLIOTT- Elliott>> Michael MacFarlane www.macfarlane.org

    01/31/1999 10:21:48
    1. [CLANS-L] Call for Stories: "Chicken Soup for the Celtic Soul"
    2. For more details, and sample stories from this project please visit: http://www.celticsoul.com Please forward this message to anybody who might be interested. Call for Stories: Do you have a story, anecdote or article about your heritage for the upcoming book "Chicken Soup for the Celtic Soul"®? We are excited and delighted to be collecting stories for another in this wonderful series by Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen. This will be a book of heartwarming, motivational, and inspiring stories in any way related to things past, present and future connected to the Celts or Celtic culture, e.g. Scots, Irish, Welsh, Cornish, Breton, Manx and their descendants throughout the world. Chicken Soup stories are about 1250 words long, this works out to be 3 - 6 published book pages. What a Chicken Soup Story IS It is an inspirational, true story about ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Chicken Soup stories are personal and are filled with vivid images. In some stories, the reader feels that he or she is actually "there" in the scene with the people involved. Chicken Soup stories have heart...but also something extra...that element that makes us all feel more helpful, more connected, more thankful, more passionate, and better about life in general. Chicken Soup stories often end with a "punch"...creating emotion rather than talking about it. The stories should leave the reader with one or more of the following: Goosebumps or butterflies, heartfelt tears, an "aaaaah" feeling, a good belly laugh, or a more exalted reason to feel alive. If your story is one of the 101 chosen, you will be paid US$300.00 If it is used or not you will retain the rights. With over 30 million "Chicken Soup" books in print, this is an excellent opportunity to get worldwide attention to the stories of the celts! "Chicken Soup for the Celtic Soul"® attn: Michael MacFarlane P.O. Box 398 Glendora, CA 91740 USA Fax: 626-335-6127 Email: Stories@celticsoul.com You may also submit your stories at our webpage: www.celticsoul.com Please forward this message to anybody who might be interested in contributing to this great book. Le gach deagh dhurachd, Michael MacFarlane, Co-Author with Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen, Dottie Walters, Lilly Walters "Chicken Soup for the Celtic Soul"® http://www.celticsoul.com http://www.macfarlane.org QUALITIES OF A 10+++ CHICKEN SOUP STORY Evokes emotion and engenders empathy from the reader. Teaches a lesson by showing us the situation, not telling us what happened and what the lesson is supposed to be. Gives the reader a clear picture of the characters in the story through vivid details. Is believable. Ends with a bang, not a whimper.

    01/31/1999 09:19:26
    1. [CLANS-L] Clan Transplantation
    2. Dear Friends, I have a question that has been bugging me for some time. My family comes from Ireland. Where I don't know. It is also said that they were of Scotch- Irish blood. My G'father was born in 1711, but I cannot find out where in Ireland. Is it possible, or does anyone have any hard evidence that, because of the persecution of the McGregor clan in the 17th century, Septs of the clan (because they could not use the name McGregor) accepted or used the Transplantation of Scots to Ulster by James I, and then moved on to the American colonies from there? Joe, you wanted to start this party? Chew on that one! LOL If anyone can help it would be grately appreciated. I have been stuck here for quite some time. Sincerely, Dave King P.S. At the Highland Games, does a Kilted Golf Tournament mean you have to wear a kilt while you play?

    01/31/1999 09:11:29
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] The MacGregors
    2. Can anyone on the list refer me to a home page for Clan MacGregor? Regards, Jim Carey Washington, DC

    01/31/1999 08:33:37
    1. [CLANS-L] THE PARTY
    2. Greetings from the List Manager! Over 150 people have now subscribed to this list. It's like having 150 people at a party, all waiting for someone else to start up a conversation. Come on! Let's post! You are invited to post a genealogical query, a question about clans, about highland dress, or about anything related to the Scottish clans. Let's get this party going! Joe Broom List Manager

    01/31/1999 08:16:47
    1. RE: [CLANS-L] Lookup please - surname FERGUS
    2. Helen Ramsay
    3. FERGUS/FERGUSON The surname was recorded in Galloway where they were seated from ancient times. some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D The complete history not only includes in full colour the most ancient family name coat of arms but traces the surname origin back to the 11th or 12th century, including any nobility, titles, castles, branches in Europe, settler's around the world and many other recorded events pertaining to the family surname if available. http://www.camelotintl.com/bin/cgi/names?name=fergus&wild=y There are entries for both Fergus and Ferguson (son of Fergus) in George F Black's "Surnames of Scotland" (too long for me to type here with my limited typing skills<g>). Perhaps your local library would have a copy or could get it for you on inter-library loan. > Would you look up FERGUS and see what listing there is in > George F Black's book "The Surnames of Scotland". HTH, Helen > > I am not sure how to pursue this question and would invite any assistance: > > Is FERGUS the name of the clan? > Is FERGUSON a sept? > > It would seem to me that the order would be the clan of FERGUS > and the sept of > FERGUSON, but I only find a FERGUSON tartan and listings for the > clan FERGUSON. > I have made the assumption that FERGUS would be the clan, adding > the "SON" for > son of . . . > > Can someone clarify this for me as I have been puzzled about this > for a long, > long time, but never had a query answered satisfactorily. > > I will appreciate any "light" that can be shared on this issue. > > Cynthia Russell > researching FERGUS folk worldwide! >

    01/31/1999 08:16:04
    1. [CLANS-L] McCormick
    2. I have variously seen the surname McCormick attached to the Buchanan and the MacLean of Loch Buie clans. How might one determine which of these clans is appropriate? Cate

    01/31/1999 08:12:21
    1. [CLANS-L] Cklan Ferson in Ireland
    2. Can anyone tell me the origin in Ireland of the surname Ferson ? I am new to family history however I have searched the Northern Ireland phone book and found many persons of the name Ferson and a lesser amount using the name Macpherson or Macapherson, is it possible that the Fersons are descended from the Scottish clan Macpherson of Inverness-shire . Or are they an indiginous family to peculiar to Ireland. James McPherson

    01/31/1999 04:29:26