My Scottish friends in Scotland object tto being called Scotch as that is reserved for scotch whiskey. They say the Scotch-Irish are those Irish that have the good sense to recognize the superiority of scotch over Irish whiskey.

I have spent less than 6 months delving into genealogy, and do not have the experience of many of you. I have been on a few mail lists only three days and have received some valuable information, and I believe given some out. However, I feel this to be true. Just from the experiences I have had, just finding a name or a location is never enough. Until I can get to know that person, "walked in their steps" I am not satisfied. If we can get into the Who first, then when, where, what, and finally why and how, and help each other, I believe the experience will be richer for us all. Perhaps the information is a little know fact about weather, dress, environment, industry, etc. It could be important to our collective understanding. The experiences of the Scotch-Irish are a much hidden portion of American History. In all my years, I don't remember being taught about them, and the contributions that they made, however, through research, I am amazed. This makes me want to follow their voyage to and to see American as they first saw it. I want to get into their heads, understand their thinking, see how they could survive. Posting hisitorical information for others to see could be a great way to share. In that vein, I will share an important document which could be the starting point for many of you. Posting historical information for others to see could be a great way to share. How fortunate for us that the founding fathers of New Hampshire understood the importance of History, even when it was being made and took steps to preserve the past for us to learn from. Today we are the History of tomorrow, it is this fact that drives us all. We see how very similar we are in our struggles and desires. Perhaps you have a distant relative that was part of the illustrious group. You must understand that not everyone found on this list made the voyage, and many that did not sign did. Copy of the Memorial to Governor Shute 26th day of March, Annoq. Dom 1718. "To His Excellency the Right Honourable Collonel Samuel Shutte, Governor of New England. We whose names are underwritten, Inhabitants of ye North of Ireland, Doe in our own names, and in the names of many others our Neighbours, Gentlemen, Ministers, Farmers, and Tradesmen Commisssionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved Friend, the Reverend Mr. William Boyd of Macasky, to His excellency the Right Hourable Collonel Samuel Shutte governour of New England, and to assure His Excellency of our sincere and hearty Inclination to Transport ourselves to that very excellent and renowned Plantation upon our obtaining from his Excellency Shutte encouragement. And further to act and Doe in our Names as his Prudence shall direct. Given under our hands this 26th day of March, Annoq. Dom 1718. Following were the signatures or marks of the persons. The names that follow were copied by the historian of Londonderry, E.L. Parker in 1890 and then again by Charles Knowles Bolton in 1910. "Below this address are the autograph signatures, arranged in eight columns of equal length. Where Mr. Parker's rendering of a name differs from my own I have given Parker's form below in italics. A question mark indicates that although we may agree, the form is still open to question. An asterisk marks names beginning with a small written b. In these cases I read "Black," not "Clark," "Beverelle," not "Ceverelle," and "Blaire ' 11 not "Claire My study of the petition has been aided by holding a negative photographic plate before a strong light. I am indebted for this negative to the kindness of Miss Edith Shepard Freeman, Librarian of the New Hampshire Historical Society." The signers were a diverse group, however there were nine ministers of the gospel and three other graduates of the University of in Scotland. The Signers First column at the left James Alexander James Nesmith David Craig Neall McNeall Weall McNeall Thomas Orr William Caldwell ?Jas Moore Jr ?Wm Slamon Sam Gunion. Perfectly distinct. Looks like Sieinion. Possibly for William Slemmons Matthew Love Lord Robrt Knox Alexdr McGregor Alexander McNeall Robert Roe Roo Joseph Watson Robert Millar John Smeally Much faded. John Morieson James Walker Robert Walker His Wilam X Calual mark Calwall. Difficult William Walker His mark Samuel X Young Alexander Richey James Morieson His mark Josheph X Beveriam His R mark Robert Crage John Thomson Thompson. Clear Hugh Tomson James Still James Hoog Thomas Hanson John Hanson Ritchard Etone James Etone Thomas Etone Samuell Hanson James Cochran James Hulton Thomas Hultone Haseltone. Or ffultone John Cochrane His Samuel X Hunter mark John Hunter Second column. Thomas Hunter His Daniel X McKerrel mark ffergos Kenedey Horgos (?) His ?John X Setone mark Suene (?) Well written, but elusive. Adam X Dickey His mark Ditkoy Alexander Kid Thomas Lorie Thomas Hines His Will X Halkins mark Georg Anton John Colbreath *William Baird Caird John Gray ?John Hostowne Woodman (?) Last four letters very clear. Andrew Wattson William Blair Joseph Blair His Hugh X Blare mark William Blare Samuel Anton James Knox Robert Hendry John Knox Willis Hendry William Dunkan David Duncan John Muree Murray? James Gillmor Samuel Gillmor Alexander Chocran Edward M Kene John Morduck His ?Samuel X.McMun mark ?Molcam Calual Henry Calual Thomas McLaughlen Robert Hoog John Millar Hugh Calwell William Boyd John Stirling Samuel Smith John Lamond Robert Lamond Robert Knox Wm Wilson Wm Paterson Third column Stephen Murdoch Robertt Murdoch John Murdoch William Jennson ames Rodger John Buyers Robert Smith Adam Dean Randall Alexander Thomas Boyd Hugh Rogers John Craig Wm Boyle Benj Boyle Ja. Kenedy MIG. Stirling A blot comes between the M. and the S. Samuel Ross John Ramsay John McKeen James Willsone Robert McKeen John Boyd Andrew Dunlap James Ramsay William Park John Blair James Thompson Lawrence McLaughlen Will Campbell James Bankhead Andrew Patrick James McFee ?James Tonson Or Temen? Gorg Anton James Anton George Kairy Thomas Freeland Fourth column Peter Simpson Thomas M"Laughlen Robert Boyd Andrew Agnew James King Thomas Elder Daniel Johnstone Robert Walker David Jonston James Steuart John Murray Thomas Blackwel Thomas Wilson John Ross William Johnston John'King Andrew Curry ?John Leech Parker omits. Looks like Jueeh. ?James Brighym Parker omits. Samue Code *James Blak Thomys Gro Thomys Anton James Gro *Jacob Black Clark Thomas Boyd Andrew McFaden Thomas McFaden David Hanson Richard Acton *James Blaire Claire Thomas Elder *Jeremiah Blaire Claire *Jacob Black Clark Abram Baverly Fifth column Robert Johnston Thomas Black Peter Murray John Jameson John Cochran Samuell Gonston Thomas Shadey William Ker Thomas Moore Andrew Watson John Thonson James McKerrall Hugh Stockman Andrew Cochren *James Barkley Carkley Laurence Tod Dod ?Sandrs Mear John Jackson James Curry James Elder James Acton ?Gorg Gregory Parker omits. Samuel Smith Andrew Dodg James Forsaith Andrew Fleeming Gorge Thomson James Brouster Thomas Kengston Parker omits James Bavelay Sixth column James Smith James Smith Patrick Smith *Sameuel Beverelle Ceverelle James Craig Samuel Wilson,.M.A. Gawen Jirwin Robert Miller Thomas Wilson William Wilson James Brice Ninian Pattison James Thompson Jon Thompson Robt Thompson Adam Thompson Alexander Pattison Thomas Dunlop John Willson David Willson John Moor James McKeen John Lamont John Smith Patrick Orr ?Boniel Orr William Orr John Orr Jeams Lenox John Leslie John Lason ?John Colvil Samuel Wat James Crafort James Henderson Matheu Slarroh David Widborn Luk Wat Robert Hendre William Walas Thomas Walas ?Thomas Enoch Cewch? William Boyd William Christy John Boyd William Boyd Hugh Ker The last nineteen are possibly in one handwriting. Seventh column Alexr McBride, Phar. Bart. There never was a Baronet of this name. Sam: McGivern John Murdoch Hurdoch Geo Campbell James Shorswood John McLaughlen Georg McLaughlen Laurence McLaughlen ?John HezIet Faded. George McAlester Thomas Ramadge James Campbell David Lindsay Robt Giveen James Laidlay Benjamin Galt Daniell Todd Robt Barr Hugh [Hollmes] Robt King John [Black] Thomas Ramsay James [Henry] Francis [Richie] James Gregg Robert Boyd Hugh Tarbel David Tarbel His John x Robb mark ?Peatter Fulltone Jeatter Fueltone. Possibly John Robt Wear [Alextr Donnaldson] [Arch'd Duglass] [Robert Stiven] Robt [Henry] [James Pettey] David Bigger David [Patteson] ?David Mitchell Parker omits. John Wight Joseph Wight Robt Willson James Ball ?Andrew Cord Or Coxe? James Nesmith Peter Christy Eighth column Jas Teatte, V.D.M. Thos Cobham, V.D.M. Robert Neilson, V.D.M. Houston Will: Leech, V.D.M. Robert Higinbotham, V.D.M. John Porter, V.D.M. Hen: Neille, V.D.M. Tho. Elder, V.D.M. James Thomson, V.D.M. William Ker Will: McClben McAlben Willeam Jeameson Or Jennieson? Wm Agnew Jeremiah Thompson Jahon Andrson George Grege Andrew Dean. AlexT Dunlop, M.A. Arch McCook, M.A. Alex'r Blair ?Boulonget Cochran Parker says B. Cochran, Fairly clear, but elusive. William Galt Peter Thompson Richart McLaughlen ?John Mccan Muar *John Black ?John Thompson Samuel Boyd John Mitchell James Paterson Joseph Curry David Willson Patrick Anderson John Gray James Greg

I am having a rough time finding the clan, or for that matter the descendants, of the name WOOD in Scotland. I know that there are a lot of WOODS and WOODs in England, but our family hails from Scotland, although they may have been transplanted there. Does anyone have record of the name WOOD in Scotland clans? It is believed that it was originally O'WOOD. Any help would be appreciated! Genji

Hello Alec, Thanks a bunch. I will look for that on the maps now. Can't tell you how much I appreciate this little tidbit. Ann McDonald Malden, Missouri, USA -----Original Message----- From: Alec Cameron <acameron@hinet.net.au> To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com <CLANS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 2:38 PM Subject: [CLANS-L] Isle of France. >Ann McDonald wrote here........ > >> William Chapman MCDONIEL born abt 1778 maybe in Angus District, Scotland >> arrived in Philadelphia 9 Apr 1802, the original port of departure was the >> Isle of France. >> >> Where is the Isle of France? I did a search and didn't find it in >> Scotland. > >Isle of France was renamed MAURITIUS and thereafter was a British >colony. My wife Mary Ferguson is Scots on her father's side, but her >mother descended from a 12 yr old emancipated slave who was deported >from Isle of France to New South Wales as a convict in 1833. > >Cheers............ > >ALISTAIR M CAMERON > > > >==== CLANS Mailing List ==== >CLANS-L Homepage: >http://www.geocities.com/~brooms/scotclans > >

My mother's family are McSwains. I am told that the McSwains might have come from the Isle of Skye. I have also been told that McSwain name may have been McSween, McSweeny or Sweeney in Scotland before the McSwains came to America. Also I am told that the McSwain, (McSweenn, etc.) were a chip off the McDonald Clan. Does anyone have any information on this?

Please may I have some help with these surnames - Donaldsons - from Orkney Island (Orphir); from Aberdeen; New Deer; Logie Buchan I'm not sure if the clan is Clanranald or McDonald - Lord of the Isles. Craigmyle - from Aberdeen - Alford on Don I would appreciate any help you could give me with these names Joyce Doherty (joyced@prcn.org) Canada

Hi: I am looking specifically for the Chambers Sept. of Clan Cameron. Looking for information for the 4 generations of Chambers from Robert ca 1635 to Edmund b. 1730. The original area was Stirling on the Firth of Forth in Scotland. Thanks Ron Riley

This was submitted to our upcoming book, Chicken Soup for the Celtic Soul. I wanted to share this with the list. Enjoy! Le gach deagh dhurachd, Michael MacFarlane, Executive Vice President Clan MacFarlane Society, Inc. http://www.macfarlane.org michael@macfarlane.org Be sure to visit the website for the upcoming book: "Chicken soup for the Celtic Soul" http://www.celticsoul.com If you could see your ancestors- All Standing in a row, Would you be proud of them- Or don’t you reallly know? Strange discoveries are sometimes made In climbing the family tree, Occasionally one is found in line Who shocks his progeny! If you could see your ancestors All standing in a row Perhaps there might be one or two You wouldn’t want to know! Now turn the question right about And take another view, When you shall meet your ancestors- WILL THEY BE PROUD OF YOU? previously published in 1971 in a book called, "Bates-Gash History" by Lily Hazel Bates, about my Bates Family Ancestors in America. The author of this poem is unknown. Submitted by Larry Fry-Bates of Clan MacFarlane

Oops!! My John Stewart was NOT born in Ireland but Scotland. Census records, etc show this. I was thinking of my Steele's who were Presbyterian ministers from Ireland--but I understand they were originally Scottish and sent to Ireland. Donna Kennedy Nichols

Hello, I am already a member of the Kennedy Society of North America. I just recently found out my gg grandfather was John Stewart born in Ireland after 1810-came to PA and married a Mary Johnston (Johnson). I am still digging on both families, plus some other Scots. My husband is a Baird for sure--John Baird from Scotland who came to the colonies in 1683 on probably the Caledonia. He married Mary Bedent and they settled in Topenemus, NJ. Sons included Andrew, Zebulon, David, William, John. One of their grandsons was Bedent, who was part of the Jersey Blues who took part in the "Tea Party" Donna Kennedy Nichols

IS the name McAddie a clan came from Wick North East of Scotland Nita in Australia fraser@aljan.com.au

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_917886643_boundary Content-ID: <0_917886643@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_917886643_boundary Content-ID: <0_917886643@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Bkstgmama@aol.com Return-path: <Bkstgmama@aol.com> To: MrMacF@aol.com Subject: Re: [CLANS-L] RE: Benefit of Clans Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:29:31 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am also interested in this question as to the benefit of clans. My GINGLES (pronounced "Jingles") were a family under the McALISTER clan. My Samuel GINGLES received a land grant from the English Crown for land in NC. Samuel married Margaret McALISTER and came to America in 1754 via Antrim, N. Ireland. The McALISTERs were of Kintyre, Scotland. Does anyone know of the GINGLES/McALISTER connection? About why the transplanting to N. Ireland? Why they should have received a land grant from the English Crown? I looked in the McALISTER info in www.tartans.com amd there is very little info. With Margaret and Samuel came Angus McALISTER and Charles McALISTER to the Philadelphia port of entry. Angus and Charles stayed with their families in York Co., PA>Taneytown, MD. Samuel and Margaret journed down to Mecklenberg Co., NC to establish their land grant. Please help with info. Sheila GINGLES Lorenz in San Diego --part0_917886643_boundary--

How would one find if an ancestor did indeed belong to a clan, and what would the benefit have been in 1890-1920 Scotland? Also, Where could I research to see how NESBIT came under the protection or alliance of HUME, and the same with INGLIS with DOUGLAS clan. Thank you Marcia Moore Collins

Joe wrote a nice essay here: "Introduction to the History of > Clan Chattan - Part I", Chattan of course, referring to the CAT. Below, are bits of Joe's essay: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Re Shaw MacDuff: > As a reward for his services, he was made > Keeper of the Royal Castle of Inverness and received the lands ot Petty and > Beachley with the forest of Strathdearn in the valley of the Findhorn River. > The early chiefs are said to have resided in Inverness Castle, but Petty was > their early home, and there through the centuries the family burial-place has > been situated and is still the resting place of the Mackintosh Chiefs. The > clan did not come into possession of the area around Loch Moy until 1336. > I too have family buried at Petty; it is a beautiful elevated burial ground, looking down to Stuart Castle. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++> > Feuds With Comyns and Camerons I'll be polite and steer clear of those. All in the past But very much in the present, is the neglect I saw at the Petty church and burial ground, in 1990. Will someone please bring me up to date as to the present condition? The church then was disused, a rear entry door busted and flooring uplifted. The pipe organ blower motor and attachments littered the lawn. The two large black cats were later removed from the church side. Were these stolen? We were told that these were taken by Mackintosh. If the site is still neglected, then surely it is a duty on Clan Mackintosh to put things right. A worthy project, yes? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > The Mackintoshes emerged victorious in this > fight, but the Camerons nevertheless remained firmly in possession of Loch > Arkaig and Glenloy. That sounds like a good outcome :~) Cheers.......... -- ALISTAIR M. CAMERON, Assistant at Mittagong N.S.W. F.H. Centre

Ann McDonald wrote here........ > William Chapman MCDONIEL born abt 1778 maybe in Angus District, Scotland > arrived in Philadelphia 9 Apr 1802, the original port of departure was the > Isle of France. > > Where is the Isle of France? I did a search and didn't find it in > Scotland. Isle of France was renamed MAURITIUS and thereafter was a British colony. My wife Mary Ferguson is Scots on her father's side, but her mother descended from a 12 yr old emancipated slave who was deported from Isle of France to New South Wales as a convict in 1833. Cheers............ ALISTAIR M CAMERON

In a message dated 1/31/99 9:57:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, mcollins@sfths.sft434.k12.ks.us writes: << How would one find if an ancestor did indeed belong to a clan, and what would the benefit have been in 1890-1920 Scotland? >> The Clan system as it was known up until 1746 was well broken up during this period so this ancestor was descendant of a clan just as you are. I would contact the Hume and Douglas Societies to find out exactly how your particular surnames became associated. Families of different surnames became associated with the Clans for many different reasons and not evryone with an associated name is necessarily related to the Clan. In some instances they are but not always. This is why genealogy is so important. For instance the name Miller is a sept of Macfarlane. It is also a trade name that is used throughout the British Isles. Are all Millers MacFarlanes? No. How do some Millers fit into the Macfarlanes? The answer is that the Macfarlane Chief's Miller (a very prestigous trade because he would grind all the grain that the Chiefs tennants gave to the Chief for rent and turned it into cash) married the Chiefs daughter strengthening their business alliance. This Miller then swears loyalty to this Chief and he is granted arms and become Duine Usail (honored person) of Macfarlane. He has his own house, gillies etc. Their Children are now sept of the Clan because thay are just as much related to their grandfather the Chief as the children of the Chiefs eldest son who would succeed him. So, if you are a Miller , can trace your ancestry to Macfarlane Lands and find you are part of this Line. You are a Macfarlane. This is just one example and there are a dozen other ways a name can become associated with a clan. So it is very important to do your research so that you will get the most value out of your genealogy efforts. There are many resources on the Clan Macfarlane website under links that will lead you to Hume and Douglas. The url is: www.macfarlane.org Hope this helps. Le gach deagh dhurachd, Michael MacFarlane, Executive Vice President Clan MacFarlane Society, Inc. http://www.macfarlane.org http://www.celticsoul.com

Hi, I am Nancy in Springfield, TN.. Researching began for me in August and I personally don't know what clan I belong to or if I do!!!!!! I don't really understand all of this yet but I am game to learn. High, low, middle is foreign to me. My knoweldge of this is limited but I joined the list!! :-)) Here are the names I am researching and the farthest back name I have.... Maybe the group can help to educate me. Thanks. ***I just looked on one of the sites (you're already teaching me!) and found these surnames of mine. How do I know I am one of them? Crawford (2 clans) Charles Henry Crawford 1787 in N.C. /March 19, 1853 TN. He married Lucy Margaret McNeil. Direct Descendants of Charles Henry Crawford 1 Charles Henry Crawford b: 1787 in N.C.+Lucy Margaret McNeil: b in Cumberland Co., N.C. 2 Elizabeth Crawford b: July 27, 1821 in Robertson County, Tn. +James Tilford Browning b: December 28, 1821 in Robertson County, Tn. 3 Margaret Ellen Browning . b: December 04, 1846 in Robertson County, Tn. + Bellfield C. Bradley b: December 21, 1844 in Robertson County , Tn. 4 Leota Lena Bradley b: August 07, 1869 in Robertson Co., Tn+Jesse Monroe Williams b: August 07, 1869 in Robertson Co., Tn 5 J.B. Williams+Margaret Edna Tolleson Tennessee 6 Nancy Lee Williams Gunn (2) Nathaniel Pistole Gunn Abt. 1630 I do know this one is mine.... :-) Connell Giles Connell, Sr. d.1804 in Spartanburg Co. , S.C. married Elizabeth Gibbs who died in June 14, 1822 in TN. Double kin here... Direct Descendants of Giles Connell,Sr. 1 Giles Connell,Sr. +Elizabeth Gibbs 2 Nancy Connell b: 1785 in Spartanburgh District, South Carolina +John Rosson,Sr. b: 1772 in Virginia Probably Orange County 3 Sampson Rosson b: 1808 in Tennessee+Marinda Bobo b: in S.C. 4 Lucinda Jane Rosson b: 1840+John Pickney Tolleson b: 1838 5 [2] Sam b: December 28, 1861 +[1] Mary Edna Duff b: May 21, 1875 6 [3] Margaret Edna Tolleson+[4] J.B. . 7 [5] Nancy Lee Williams 2nd set of kinship 3 Nancy Rosson daughter of Sampson Rosson and Marinda Bobo. b: October 14, 1813 in Robertson Co.,Tenn.+William Stroud b: May 27, 1798 in S.C. 4 Mary Ann Stroud b: October 28, 1844 +Richard Alexander Duff 5 [1] Mary Edna Duff b: May 21, 1875+[2] Sam b: December 28, 1861 6 [3] Margaret Edna Tolles+[4] J.B. 7 [5] Nancy Lee Williams Duff Joshua Duff m Usley Harrison in March 10, 1798 Direct Descendants of Joshua Duff 1 Joshua Duff +Usley Harrison 2 James Duff +Nancy Bledsoe 3 Richard Alexander Duff +Mary Ann Stroud b: October 28, 1844 4 Mary Edna Duff b: May 21, 1875+Sam Tolleson b: December 28, 1861 5 Margaret Edna Tolleson +J.B. Williams 6 Nancy Lee Williams McIntosh (3) Nimrod Mc Intosh's daughter Milberry married Spencer Browning in 1818 Direct Descendants of Nimrod McIntosh 1 Nimrod McIntosh 2 Milberry Mc Intosh +Spencer Browning b: April 05, 1795 in Caldwell Co., N.C. 3 James Tilford Browning b: December 28, 1821 in Robertson County, Tn. +Elizabeth Crawford b: July 27, 1821 in Robertson County, Tn. 4 Margaret Ellen Browning b: December 04, 1846 in Robertson County, Tn. +Bellfield C. Bradley b: December 21, 1844 in Robertson County , Tn. 5 Leota Lena Bradley b: August 07, 1869 in Robertson Co., Tn +Jesse Monroe Williams b: August 26, 1851 6 J.B. Williams. +Margaret Edna Tolleson 7 Nancy Lee Williams Roberts Andrew Roberts Abt. 1657 d 1722 N.C. His son John Roberts b Abt. 1678 in VA/Scottland. Here is my chart on Andrew: Direct Descendants of Andrew Roberts 1 Andrew Roberts b: Abt. 1657 in Wales +Ann 2 John Roberts b: Abt. 1678 in VA/Scottland. 3 Henry Roberts b: 1700 in Fairfax Co., VA. 4 David Roberts b: 1740 in Johnston Co., NC 5 Sarah Roberts b: Abt. 1777 in Caswell Co., NC +Samuel Williams b: in North Carolina 6 David Williams b: May 06, 1817 in North Carolina +Barbara Elizabeth Gunn b: September 13, 1819 in Tennessee 7 Jesse Monroe Williams b: August 26, 1851+Leota Lena Bradley b: August 07, 1869 in Robertson Co., Tn 8 J.B. Williams +Margaret Edna Tolleson 9 Nancy Lee Williams This is a beginning isn't it.... Steer me onward! Thanks, Nancy nlewisjm@bellsouth.net

Greetings! I am Robert C. McArtor, scrivener of Clan Arthur and editor of the Clan Arthur newsletter, "The Round Table." There are six Clan MacArthur Societies now serving as supporting branches of the newly recognized Clan Arthur which is headed, temporarily, by a Commander. I welcome any and all communications from MacArthurs (however their name is spelled) and friends of the Authurites. "Fide et Opera "is our motto--By Faith and Work and growth in membership and knowledge our aims. Aye, Bob McArtor

Hi Joe Now you really have piqued my curiosity! Lucy Joebroom@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/31/1999 3:10:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, > Lucy_shore@UManitoba.ca writes: > > << I don't know whether any of you would be interested, but here is a > little story I found in my research. This was submitted by a descendant > of the McDonalds of Caledon West, now Peel County, Ontario. >> > > Interesting! I am racking my brain trying to remember where I saw it, but I > do remember seeing reference somewhere in Deeside (i.e., a parish near the > River Dee in Scotland) about a Macdonald who had escaped from Glencoe and come > south. > > Joe > > ==== CLANS Mailing List ==== > CLANS-L Homepage: > http://www.geocities.com/~brooms/scotclans

I am researching the DYSART name in Northern Ireland. Out of interest 1 Is there a Dysart clan or tartan? 2 Has any Dysart tracing the Scottish line of the family discovered any branches going to Ulster in the 1600s. 3 I have contacts with some of the US Dysarts Thanks in advance. Rachel Dysart