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    1. [CLANS-L] Campbells
    2. MaeLing Wu
    3. I am trying to research the Campbell's..last located near Grass Lake Michigan. Grandfathers name was William Campbell married to Elisabeth Fisher. Can any one tell me about the Campbell clan?

    02/03/1999 04:17:54
    1. [CLANS-L] Name Change
    2. A researcher found that one of our ancestor families changed their name--from MCHARDY to MCLEOD. Has anyone had this experience? We didn't know this until a few years ago, and have always wondered why??? Ardis McLeod

    02/03/1999 03:34:23
    1. [CLANS-L] DHU
    2. maybelle
    3. Is there anyone on the Clans list who can tell me what clan the DHU name belongs to? I know that the name means"black"and have benn told at various times that it is McGregor/Maclean/McAlpine.Help,Help!!! Cheers May Dhu. maybelle@dataline.net.au

    02/03/1999 02:47:22
    1. [CLANS-L] Grubb Genealogy
    2. Crystal Zimmerman
    3. Help! How do I go about finding out if there was a "Grubb" Clan. Thanks, Crystal

    02/03/1999 02:30:11
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] Re: Clan McQueen
    2. Githa Warrington
    3. Well hi there, Archibald McQUEEN I guess is a popular name, as my Achibald McQUEEN comes from Bracadale Isle of Skye a long way from Perth. He married Catherine CAMERON and migrated to New Zealand in 1840. His parents were Donald McQUEEN and Mary McLEOD m 1813 Iskavaig, Isle of Skye. Can't find this town or parish. It was said that the Clans leader is someone here in NZ for the McQUEEN Clan. Our 5 daughters wore the McQUEEN tartan when they were highland dancers here in NZ. There is a McQUEEN family separate from ours in the South Island who also migrated to NZ not sure where they came from in Scotland. regards Githa WARRINGTON New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Jane Macgillivray <jane@providence2000.freeserve.co.uk> To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com <CLANS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 5:22 AM Subject: [CLANS-L] Re: Clan McQueen >Hello Jerri, >I have an ancestor James McQueen, married to Isabel Mackeson (sic), with >known children James (died 1852), Anne (died 1854) and William (b 1789 died >1858). James was born at what looks like Arrive, parish of Kincardine - this >is from family Bible not OPR, his birth does not figure. William married >Mary Buchanan born 1799. I know that William, a teacher and Greek scholar, >was living in manor house near Glasgow - there are also names Robert and >Archibald and Helen in family. I don't know which Kincardine it was, but >notice there >is Kincardine parish near Perth. >Best regards, Jane >-----Original Message----- >From: The Otto's <tjotto@voyager.net> >To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com <CLANS-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: 03 February 1999 13:31 >Subject: [CLANS-L] Clan McQueen > > >>Just found out about this site. Looking for Clan McQueen from Doune, >>Perthshire, Scotland and Kilmadock Parish. Archibald McQueen married Janet >>Drummond in Kilmadock, Perth, Scotland in 1765. Four known children:John >>10/23/1768; Elen 11/30/1771; >>Archibald 12/10/1775; and James (my g.g.g.grandfather)3/4/1779. >>Any fellow clansmen out there? >> >>Jerri Otto >>tjotto@voyager.net >> >>______________________________ > >______________________________

    02/03/1999 01:06:12
    1. [CLANS-L] Search Descendants>Malcolm Cattanach & Jane McLachlan, Scotland 1800's
    2. Patricia Knapp
    3. Hi I am looking for descendants of the children of Malcolm Cattanach and Jane McLachlan Would love to hear from anyone descended from this family. (Maybe spelt McLauchlan) 1. MALCOLM(1) CATTANACH was born Abt. 1821 in Banchor, Parish of Kingussie, Scotland - Slater. He married JANE MCLACHLAN Feb.1845 in Parish of Kingussie according to Ewen's birth record. Children of MALCOLM CATTANACH and JANE MCLACHLAN are: 2. i. EWEN MACPHERSON2 CATTANACH, b. 09.Dec.1864, Kingussie Parish, Inverness-shire at 8:00 a.m. in Newtonmore LDS-Births Film #321184; d. 1890, #2 early in year age 25. Married Marjory Taylor June 3rd, 1886. Ewen had only one son Malcolm Cattanach born: Nairn, Scotland this Malcolm came to Canada around 1910. ii. THOMAS CATTANACH, b. 27.Nov.1863. iii. THOMAS CATTANACH, b. 12.Sep.1868. iv. MARGARET CATTANACH, b. 07.Jul.1855, Newtonmore. v. ISABELLA CATTANACH, b. Abt. 1846. vi. ANN CATTANACH, b. Abt. 1848. vii. JOHN CATTANACH, b. Abt. 1850. viii. JANE CATTANACH, b. Abt. 1851. ix. BETTY CATTANACH, b. Abt. 1853. x. DONALD CATTANACH, b. Abt. 1858. xi. MALCOLM CATTANACH, b. Abt. 1861. -- Patricia Knapp pat.knapp@sympatico.ca Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

    02/03/1999 12:33:23
    1. [CLANS-L] McCormick Clan???
    2. I posted this before, but received no response. Let me try again. A friend of mine with no access to the internet is a McCORMICK. In different books on clans McCORMICK is variously listed as part of the BUCHANAN Clan or the MacLEAN of LOCH BUIE Clan. 1. How does she find out which of these clans her particular McCORMICK family is part of? 2. Does anyone know how to go about this? 3. Has anyone had a similar problem? Thanks for any help you can supply. I will pass it along to my friend. Cate Daniell New Mexico, USA CLANS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > CLANS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 9 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [CLANS-L] "This is Why We Honour S [Joebroom@aol.com] > #2 [CLANS-L] Re: CLANS Question [Pattyfraz@aol.com] > #3 [CLANS-L] Re: Clan McQueen ["Jane Macgillivray" <jane@providen] > #4 [CLANS-L] Re: Culloden [FortIII@aol.com] > #5 [CLANS-L] Carruthers, a Sept to th [gcarruth@netcom.ca] > #6 Re: [CLANS-L] Re: CLANS Question [Joebroom@aol.com] > #7 Re: [CLANS-L] Re: CLANS Question [Pattyfraz@aol.com] > #8 [CLANS-L] Gunn in Cass Co., GA and [RFDSAD@aol.com] > #9 [CLANS-L] MacCutcheon-MacDonald of [Mac McCutchan <yekcim@erols.com>] > #10 [CLANS-L] McCurry/MacCurry [Debbie Fowler <micajah@mindspring.] > #11 [CLANS-L] The Generation after Cul [MrMacF@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from CLANS-D, send a message to > > CLANS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CLANS-L] "This is Why We Honour Scotland ..." > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:19:46 EST > From: Joebroom@aol.com > To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com > > The following was posted to the Nova-Scotia List this morning. I thought > there would be many on this list who would appreciate reading this. > > ********************* > > Premier of Nova Scotia officiates at Opening of Gaelic College: > The English address delivered by the Hon. Angus L. Macdonald, at St. Ann's > C. B., July 26th, 1938 > > Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: > 'I am here today to make a very small payment on a very great debt. The > debt is one that many of us ow, and that none of us can ever fully repay. > It is a debt to Scotland and to the sons and daughters of that land. > 'I have never ceased to marvel as I attend Scottish gatherings in this > country. Here we are in Nova Scotia, three thousand miles away from > Scotland. Only a few of us have ever seen it. Only a few of us can ever > hope to see that romantic country. Not many of us can hope with any > confidence to see the great border country immortalized by Scott, or the > regions where Burns lived and sand, or, going a little further north, the > bonnie banks of Loch Lomond. Most of us will have to see in picture and > imagination only the great Pass of Killiecrankie. Few of us can take the > Road to the Isles or visit the misty Isle of Skye and see the Coolins and > Culloden with all its tragic memories must remain only an image in our > hearts. Not many of us have seen that land. Most of us are separated from > Scotland by at least a century in time. We are the great grandchildren, > and perhaps in some cases we are even further removed than that, from the > Scottish pioneers, and yet over all those miles and across those years > Scotland calls and always her children answer. You are answering today, > and this memorial which you establish here to the memory of the pioneers > will speak, I hope, through the centuries, telling the world that Scotsmen > do not forget. > 'I believe that if a resident of another plant could look down on this > earthly scene and view the characteristics of the different races that > inhabit the earth, he would put down as most significant the Scotsman's > love of Scotland. Such a gazer from the stars would find that every race, > every man worth of the name, honours the fatherland, but he would find > Scottish affection deeper and stronger than most, or perhaps than anyother > in the world. > 'If he sought the reason for this warmth, where would he find it? He would > not find it entirely in the physical characteristics, in the geography of > Scotland, itself. It is true that it is a lovely land, a land of beauty > everywhere, beauty of mountain and gle, of loch and driver, of bank and > brae, of forest and sea. I always remember the words of Ramsay macDonald, > former Prime Minister of Great Britain, used in speaking of the Highlands > of Scotland. "We must guard the Highlands. They are not the place of great > wealth. They are not and never have been the place of softening material > comfort. But they bave been designed by the fingers and fashioned creation > to be the embodiment of the chastest and most imspiring beauty that the eye > of man can light upon in these islands." > 'Recognizing, however, all the natural beauty of Scotland, we must be > mindful, that other lands, too, have their natural charm. It cannot be, > thenentirely or even chiefly a matter of the physical appearance of the > country that creates in Scotsmen so deep an affection for the old land. > 'Nor would he find the cause in the mere history of the land and the > people. He is coming nearer to the real cause when he gets on historical > ground, for the history of a people represents their characters and is > influenced and shaped and formed largely by the people themselves. It is a > great history - that of Scotland, if one traces it from the earliest days > to the present time. Back to the days of Imperial Rome, it extends, and > thence down the centuries to the great days of Wallace and Bruce. It > records clan feuds and the struggles between Highlander and Lowlander and > betwen Scotsmen and Sassenach, the struggle for the re-establishment of the > Stuart line, with its unhappy ending at Culloden, the union of Crowns in > 1707, and the Scottish contribution to British achievement for two > centuries since. That is a great pagent, but by itself it does not expalin > the Scotsman's affection for Scotland. Our spectator will find the cause > of this affection in the characters of the people of Scotland, themselves. > He will find here a people who venerate religion and cherish education, who > have a deep sense of loyalty to family, clan, chief and King, a people of > proud and independent spirit, proud of their race and of their country. > These are the corner-stones of Scottish character and I believe that many a > Scotsman and many a decendant of Scotsmen, perhaps thousands of miles away > from the old land, has been helped and inspired by the recollection of > these qualities of his own people. I do not think it is too much to say > that many a Scotsman has been kept on the straight path by pride of > Scotland, and by a desire to maintain unsullied the reputation of Scotland. > 'That is why we honour Scotland. That is why we are under a debt to > Scotland. That is why we try to pay back that debt by erecting this > memorial and by endeavouring to preserve the language, traditions, the > music of our fathers. > 'These aims are altogether commendable, but yet let me be allowed to issue > a warning. Let us not live in the past alone. Let us not be content with > mere ancestor worship. Let us look to the past, of course. Let us recall > the glories of our race and our country, but let us do so with the right > purpose in mind. Let us recall those glories to that we in our day may > seek to imitate them, so that we in our day may show forth to the world > those virtues which I have already mentioned, which have distinguished the > Scotsman in every part of the earth. We live in a time when much of what > was old and cherished is being questioned and doubted, but it seems to me > that there are a few matters which should be beyond dispute. The value of > the great Scottish virtues, of hones pride, of self reliance, of > independence of spirit, of a deep religious sense, of love of education - > surely these are beyond all doubt. Particularly in these days is there a > need for the Scottish spirit of independence and self reliance. It is a > time when a great many people are seeking the easy way. They are seeking > the way which involves the lease effort for themselves and the most > supervision on the part of some outside authority, whether it be a private > organization or public society in the form of Government. The tendency of > many people is to lean on somebody else in these days. That has never been > the spirit of Scotland. If we lose that independence of mind and that self > reliance which ought to be ours we shall be easy victims ov every new > theory of Government that is advanced. We shall be an easy prey to the > dictator. We shall lose that democrcay which no people in the world have > defended and maintained more vigorously than the people of Scotland. > 'And so, this memorial be not merely a reminder of the heroic achievements > of our pioneer fathers and mothers let it not be merely a place where the > ancient language of Scotland is preserved and fostered. These are ends in > themselves altogether worthy, but more important still it will be to make > this place a centre from which the spirit of Scotland may radiate. > 'It now gives me great pleasure to declare this institution open for the > advancement of education in the Gaelic Language, and dedicated for the > preservation of the customs, literature, music and sons of the Scottish > race, and to the "Glory of God".'" > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CLANS-L] Re: CLANS Question > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:49:09 EST > From: Pattyfraz@aol.com > To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com > > In a message dated 2/3/1999 9:24:22 AM Central Standard Time, CLANS-D- > request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > Hi All, > > > > Being new to not only the CLANS list, but genealogy research, I hope > > that I am not going to make a fool of myself with this question? I have two > > lots of ancestors that came from Scotland, MITCHELL's and CALDOW's, are > > there clans of these names??, I've never heard of there being any. > > > > Regards, > > Joan. > > AUSTRALIA. > > > > I am in the same boat as Joan. I am fairly new to genealogy research in > general, but am just starting to research outside of the United States. I > have been in touch with a new "cousin" in Ottawa, Canada, who has shared his > many years of research of the FRAZER/FRASER family with me and my husband. I > have searched some of the clan sites (one being a FRASER clan website) and > still cannot make out from what information I have what clan would be ours, as > it looks to me like there is more than one FRAZER/FRASER clan. > > So far, Samuel FRAZER is as far back as the family has been researched. He > was born in 1751 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, but apparently moved to and lived > the rest of his life in County Armagh, Ireland. His descendants (he was > supposedly married four or five times and had at least 21 children) spread > throughout the world into Canada, England, Australia, and the United States > (that I know of) with both the spellings of FRASER and FRAZER. Of the last > five of his children, two used FRASER and three used FRAZER. My husband is > descended from the fourth from the last child, William FRAZER. William was > born ca. 1812 in County Armagh, Ireland - came to the Bytown (Ottawa), Canada, > area in the 1847-1849 timeframe. He was a boot and shoemaker. He married > first Mary ??? in Ireland and second Margaret FULTON in Canada. Margaret was > also from County Armagh, but the families did not know each other in Ireland. > William died May 12, 1889 and is buried in St. James Cemetery in Hull, Quebec > (cemetery records supposedly destroyed in a fire). > > Can anyone help me identify the FRAZER/FRASER clan for this family or if you > have any additional information about this family. Please let me know if > additional details will help. > > Thanks! > > Patty Frazer > Pattyfraz@aol.com > St. Louis, MO, USA > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CLANS-L] Re: Clan McQueen > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:22:03 -0000 > From: "Jane Macgillivray" <jane@providence2000.freeserve.co.uk> > To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Jerri, > I have an ancestor James McQueen, married to Isabel Mackeson (sic), with > known children James (died 1852), Anne (died 1854) and William (b 1789 died > 1858). James was born at what looks like Arrive, parish of Kincardine - this > is from family Bible not OPR, his birth does not figure. William married > Mary Buchanan born 1799. I know that William, a teacher and Greek scholar, > was living in manor house near Glasgow - there are also names Robert and > Archibald and Helen in family. I don't know which Kincardine it was, but > notice there > is Kincardine parish near Perth. > Best regards, Jane > -----Original Message----- > From: The Otto's <tjotto@voyager.net> > To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com <CLANS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 03 February 1999 13:31 > Subject: [CLANS-L] Clan McQueen > > >Just found out about this site. Looking for Clan McQueen from Doune, > >Perthshire, Scotland and Kilmadock Parish. Archibald McQueen married Janet > >Drummond in Kilmadock, Perth, Scotland in 1765. Four known children:John > >10/23/1768; Elen 11/30/1771; > >Archibald 12/10/1775; and James (my g.g.g.grandfather)3/4/1779. > >Any fellow clansmen out there? > > > >Jerri Otto > >tjotto@voyager.net > > > >______________________________ > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CLANS-L] Re: Culloden > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:19:02 EST > From: FortIII@aol.com > To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello Joe and list, > > Hear are some neat URLs about the history of the Battle of Culloden. > <A HREF="http://www.highlanderweb.co.uk/culloden/home.htm">Culloden </A> > <A HREF="http://www.queenofscots.co.uk/culloden/cull.html">CULLODEN MOOR AND > THE STORY OF THE BATTLE</A> > <A HREF="http://www.virtual-pc.com/journal/lineage.htm">Scottish Military > Historical Society - Lineage</A> > > Happy browsing, > Ann > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [CLANS-L] Carruthers, a Sept to the Bruce Clan > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:44:03 -0500 (EST) > From: gcarruth@netcom.ca > To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com > > I am researching the Carruthers surname, specifically those that migrated from Scotland to Canada. The object of my search is > my GGGrandfather William Carruthers 1815-1887 who migrated to Canada in the 1840's. He married Jane (Jean) Steven from the > Huntingdon Quebec area and they settled in the Morewood/Winchester Ontario area in the mid 1840's. His tree is tied to the > following surnames: > > Shearer, Watt, Nimmo, McGaan, Steven, Casselman, Fetterly, McGibbon, Kinnaird, Brimacombe

    02/03/1999 12:25:59
    1. [CLANS-L] Mitchell
    2. cmarriott
    3. hello Joan, Mitchell belonged to the Innes Clan. I couldn't find Caldow in my book. I had Calder and Caldwell. I have a little info on Innes Clan if you want. Send me your e-mail address as I missed your post and must have deleted it. Carolyn > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:49:09 EST > From: Pattyfraz@aol.com > To: CLANS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CLANS-L] Re: CLANS Question > In a message dated 2/3/1999 9:24:22 AM Central Standard Time, CLANS-D- > request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > Hi All, > > > > Being new to not only the CLANS list, but genealogy research, I hope > > that I am not going to make a fool of myself with this question? I have two > > lots of ancestors that came from Scotland, MITCHELL's and CALDOW's, are > > there clans of these names??, I've never heard of there being any. > > > > Regards, > > Joan. > > AUSTRALIA. > > > > I am in the same boat as Joan. I am fairly new to genealogy research in > general, but am just starting to research outside of the United States. I > have been in touch with a new "cousin" in Ottawa, Canada, who has shared his > many years of research of the FRAZER/FRASER family with me and my husband. I > have searched some of the clan sites (one being a FRASER clan website) and > still cannot make out from what information I have what clan would be ours, as > it looks to me like there is more than one FRAZER/FRASER clan. > > So far, Samuel FRAZER is as far back as the family has been researched. He > was born in 1751 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, but apparently moved to and lived > the rest of his life in County Armagh, Ireland. His descendants (he was > supposedly married four or five times and had at least 21 children) spread > throughout the world into Canada, England, Australia, and the United States > (that I know of) with both the spellings of FRASER and FRAZER. Of the last > five of his children, two used FRASER and three used FRAZER. My husband is > descended from the fourth from the last child, William FRAZER. William was > born ca. 1812 in County Armagh, Ireland - came to the Bytown (Ottawa), Canada, > area in the 1847-1849 timeframe. He was a boot and shoemaker. He married > first Mary ??? in Ireland and second Margaret FULTON in Canada. Margaret was > also from County Armagh, but the families did not know each other in Ireland. > William died May 12, 1889 and is buried in St. James Cemetery in Hull, Quebec > (cemetery records supposedly destroyed in a fire). > > Can anyone help me identify the FRAZER/FRASER clan for this family or if you > have any additional information about this family. Please let me know if > additional details will help. > > Thanks! > > Patty Frazer > Pattyfraz@aol.com > St. Louis, MO, USA > > ______________________________ >

    02/03/1999 11:49:57
    1. [CLANS-L] Bernard Little of Quincy, MA
    2. I am searching for further info or direction regarding Bernard Little, my gggrandfather. He was the son of Stephen Little, born on August 26, 1823, and arrived at the port of Boston on August 27,1849. His naturalization papers indicate he came from Dublin County, Irl (don't know if that means he was born there or departed from there). Bernard was naturalized as a United States citizen on April 29, 1857. He settled in Quincy and became a stone cutter in the quarries. He was married to Mary Ivers (daughter of Dennis and Rose Ivers) on March 2, 1851, had five children James, Daniel, Mary, Stephen and Simon. Bernard died in August of 1895 and is buried at St. Mary's in Quincy. This is a Catholic family. Thanks for any assistance in this regard. Dan Little

    02/03/1999 07:26:49
    1. [CLANS-L] Clan McQueen
    2. The Otto's
    3. Just found out about this site. Looking for Clan McQueen from Doune, Perthshire, Scotland and Kilmadock Parish. Archibald McQueen married Janet Drummond in Kilmadock, Perth, Scotland in 1765. Four known children:John 10/23/1768; Elen 11/30/1771; Archibald 12/10/1775; and James (my g.g.g.grandfather)3/4/1779. Any fellow clansmen out there? Jerri Otto tjotto@voyager.net

    02/03/1999 06:31:09
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] Emigration Accounts
    2. Lucy Shore
    3. > << As far as Canada goes, I would suggest 'On The Crofters' Trail - > In Search of the Clearance Highlanders' by David Craig > ISBN 0-7126-7383-0 >> > > Thank you for this information. Does anyone know when this was published and > where it may be purchased? Thanks. > The book was published by Pimlico 1997 and is readily available here in Canada. There are several interesting accounts of individuals followed from Scotland to the new land. If one is more interested in general migrations from Scotland to both the U.S. and Canada, I would recommend "A Dance called America" by James Hunter, published in 1994 by the Mainstream Publishing Co. It is also readily available in Canada. Lucy

    02/03/1999 06:15:51
    1. RE: [CLANS-L] Emigration Accounts
    2. Helen Ramsay
    3. As far as Canada goes, I would suggest 'On The Crofters' Trail - In Search of the Clearance Highlanders' by David Craig ISBN 0-7126-7383-0 "David Craig travelled through twenty-one islands in Scotland and Canada, as well as many thousands of miles of moor and glen. 'On the Crofters' Trail' brings before us the men and women of both countries as they recount in their own words the agony of their forbears." "We're sailing west, we're sailing west To prairie lands sunkissed and blest - The crofter's trail to happiness. Emigrant jingle, Canadian Pacific Railroad Archives" > Robert from Australia recently posted a query concerning his (Mc)Donald > ancestors, and that brings to mind something I'd be interested in reading > about -- i.e., accounts of clearances and emigration from > Scotland to Canada, > the US or Australia and New Zealand. > > If anyone out there has such accounts, you are welcome to share them. > > Joe Broom > List Manager > > > ==== CLANS Mailing List ==== > CLANS-L Homepage: > http://www.geocities.com/~brooms/scotclans >

    02/03/1999 05:17:54
    1. RE: [CLANS-L] CLAN's question??
    2. Helen Ramsay
    3. It looks as though this is originally an English name http://www.camelotintl.com/bin/cgi/names?name=caldow&wild=y It is recorded in Black's "The Surnames of Scotland". The first recorded instance is of one William Caldow in Nedir Mosplat. Black also says that the name may be of local origin, perhaps from Caldow near Corsock, Balbeattie. Since the name seems to have been recorded in England first, perhaps the Scottish town was named after a Caldow who moved there. HTH, Helen > Being new to not only the CLANS list, but genealogy research, I hope > that I am not going to make a fool of myself with this question? > I have two > lots of ancestors that came from Scotland, MITCHELL's and CALDOW's, are > there clans of these names??, I've never heard of there being any. > > Regards, > Joan. > AUSTRALIA. > > Researching : > > CALDOW - Dunlop, Ayrshire, Scotland > Aust. > HOLE - Glastonbury, Somerset, England > Aust. > FARRAR - Rothwell,Yorkshire, England > Aust. > MITCHELL - Ballater, Aberdeen, Scotland > Aust. > > > > > ==== CLANS Mailing List ==== > CLANS-L Homepage: > http://www.geocities.com/~brooms/scotclans >

    02/03/1999 05:03:28
    1. [CLANS-L] MITCHELLS
    2. Jill Van Der Reyden
    3. Hi Hayden.... I have looked up my Scots Kith n Kin Book and Mitchell is listed as coming from clan MACMICHAEL: Lanarkshire 15th c... Hope that is of some use...Good Luck Jill Van Der Reyden

    02/03/1999 04:03:06
    1. [CLANS-L] CLAN's question??
    2. Hayden
    3. Hi All, Being new to not only the CLANS list, but genealogy research, I hope that I am not going to make a fool of myself with this question? I have two lots of ancestors that came from Scotland, MITCHELL's and CALDOW's, are there clans of these names??, I've never heard of there being any. Regards, Joan. AUSTRALIA. Researching : CALDOW - Dunlop, Ayrshire, Scotland > Aust. HOLE - Glastonbury, Somerset, England > Aust. FARRAR - Rothwell,Yorkshire, England > Aust. MITCHELL - Ballater, Aberdeen, Scotland > Aust.

    02/03/1999 03:09:10
    1. [CLANS-L] Emigration Accounts
    2. I thought I'd throw out an account of the emigration of William MACPHAIL, brother of my wife's G-G-Grandfather. William was born in Nairn in 1800 and attended Kings College in Aberdeen. He became a schoolteacher in the Highlands, his chosen vocation. While at Kingussie, in Inverness-shire, he wrote a report to the government on the conditions in his school: "The very richest here, if there are any moe so than others, are so far from being able to pay fees, that it is no uncommon thing for their children to shun school because their parents cannot purchase the necessary school books; and the parents, in this situation, offer me part of their subsistence in barter for the book, though that subsistence is often far too scanty for themselves ..." In 1832, William and his wife Mary Macpherson left Fort William for Canada. Quoting from Sir Andrew Macphail's, "The Master's Wife," "the voyage lasted nine weeks. Ship fever broke out. The captain ran for Prince Edward Island, where he knew the Earl of Selkirk had established settlements. A storm arose. The passengers were under closed hatches. Panic broke out. The captain was in despair. Mary [Macpherson Macphail], the grandmother, began sining the 46th psalm, and all sang with her: God is our refuge and strength ... We will not be afraid ... Though waters roaring make ... When Highlanders sing psalms their mood is governed by the psalm they sing, and they can find a psalm to fit every mood. The panic was allayed ... But the storm increased. The ship was demasted, and finally cast herself away on the north shore of Nova Scotia close to the mouth of the River John. The passengers and crew escaped with their lives only ... The castaways were kindly cared for by some American fishermen who were drying their nets ... [William] brough ashore his pocket copy of "Horace" ... [and] when the tide fell and the wind went down, [also found] were a Gaelic bible and a spinning wheel." Cheers, Joe Broom

    02/03/1999 01:43:02
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] Emigration Accounts
    2. In a message dated 2/3/1999 5:17:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, helenr@western.wave.ca writes: << As far as Canada goes, I would suggest 'On The Crofters' Trail - In Search of the Clearance Highlanders' by David Craig ISBN 0-7126-7383-0 >> Thank you for this information. Does anyone know when this was published and where it may be purchased? Thanks.

    02/03/1999 01:07:56
    1. [CLANS-L] GAFFY in IRE
    2. Kathi Ann Gaffy
    3. Hello, Is there anyone out there who can help me with the Gaffy surname and it's origins? I have found out (the hard way) that it is not a common name...... I'm after ANY information, no matter how trivial it seems to you!! Thanks, Kathi G. gaffygang@interworx.com.au

    02/03/1999 01:01:02
    1. Re: [CLANS-L] CLAN's question??
    2. In a message dated 2/3/1999 3:06:15 AM Mountain Standard Time, hayden@geelong.hotkey.net.au writes: << I have two lots of ancestors that came from Scotland, MITCHELL's and CALDOW's, are there clans of these names??, I've never heard of there being any >> GATHERING OF THE CLANS at http://www.tartans.com is a good on-line resource for checking names through their "Clan FInder" facility. Using this, I found they list Mitchell under Stewart of Appin. Now all this really means is that there were probably a group of Mitchells who took protection of the Stewarts of Appin at one point. There was no listing for Caldow. But there may have been others of your lines that were more directly tied to clans. Joe Broom

    02/02/1999 11:22:59
    1. [CLANS-L] CLAN DONALD
    2. Patricia Jungwirth
    3. Hi all, My wife's ancestors - John DONALD, wife (Ann WILSON - both born about 1805-1810 married about 1829 in Scotland) and infant came to Sydney australia in 1831 - on the Stirling Castle - he was one of J.D.Lang's original SCOTCH (sic) MECHANICS. A good pressy recruited to do pressy works??, elevate the social and moral standards of the developing colony - too many convicts and catholics apparently - according to J.D.Lang. John DONALD - a stone mason - helped build the Australia College in Sydney (first tertiary institution in Australia?) and also worked on the building of the Cape Otway lighthouse, Victoria, in about 1847. Family stories suggest that John Donald was from SKYE and ended up in Australia because of the clearances??? - doesn't this apply to about 80% of those that left scotland in the early 19th.C???? Unfortunately the name John DONALD is about as common as Bill SMITH - but I still need to try??? Any infortmation would be most welcome - thanking you. Robert Ferny Creek Victoria Australia. also researching John Carmichael, James Park, Catherine Brown Park and Huggins families from Scotland.

    02/02/1999 09:51:38