Hi Sorry all, maybe my typing will improve I do know it is the Clan Chattan. Hopefully no more hurried typo's. Pat -- Patricia Ann Cattanach Knapp pat.knapp@sympatico.ca Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

Alistair - You seem to be very knowledgeable regarding names and places. I would be most appreciative if you could help me. I have been researching the name TOPLIFF/TOPLIFFE for 30 years (Sometimes seen as TOPCLIFF/E and/or TAPLEY). It's history has eluded me. Growing up, I was told the name was Scottish - then found a great deal of info indicating U.S. immigrants probably from England (Essex?). When I finally found an 1851 Storrington, ONT census that included my gggrandparents, Edward and Rachael WALKER TOPLIFF and some of their children, it indicated both Edward and Rachael born in Ireland (he= County Armagh). Do you know of this name? I have just begun to research SMITH - and let me tell you, it's easier to work with a common name than one that is so obscure. If you can provide, any clues, I would be most grateful. Jan

Githa wrote here...... > Could someone tell me if WARBRICK is a scottish name Very English: from Lancashire [as is your own name WARRINGTON] and Stafford-shire I believe. Bits of Scotland were "colonised" by the English developing industry north of the border; or just settling there to enjoy the superior life style, and re- populating the place while Scots fled overseas. ALISTAIR M. CAMERON, Assistant at Mittagong N.S.W. F.H. Centre

Sorry meant Clan Cattan Patricia Knapp wrote: > > Hi > > Am curious why the Clan MacPherson Assc. spells the name > Cattanach (Vattanach) and why they too, do not care to mention > that it is more than possible that Cattanach was the > original name of the MacPherson Clan. As Cattanach was the very > early name in the Clan Cattanach and they are also part of > the MacPherson. > -- > Patricia Ann Cattanach Knapp > pat.knapp@sympatico.ca > Mississauga, Ontario, Canada -- Patricia Ann Cattanach Knapp pat.knapp@sympatico.ca Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

Hi Am curious why the Clan MacPherson Assc. spells the name Cattanach (Vattanach) and why they too, do not care to mention that it is more than possible that Cattanach was the original name of the MacPherson Clan. As Cattanach was the very early name in the Clan Cattanach and they are also part of the MacPherson. -- Patricia Ann Cattanach Knapp pat.knapp@sympatico.ca Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

Thanks Beverly Pasternak, Yes The Macpherson surname may be one of the Highland host clans who settled in Ireland , and Ferson may be a derivitive of that name , however not all McPhersons in Ireland came from Scotland the name means son of the Parson ,so some of the name have come from clerics in Ireland, see the book " Posterity Of The Three Brethern " A history of the Clan Macpherson , author Alan G.Macpherson of Canada, published by the Clan Macpherson Association ,Canada. Website www.Clan-macpherson.org/ Jim McPherson.Scotland

Subject to use: 1718 Boston to Casco Bay, ME to Londonderry NH Pat Gregg - patgregg@mediaone.net I want to thank all of your who have shared information on this group of families. For all of you who found your families in the Governor Shute petition or in other information I have shared, I was happy to help. Through your efforts, I found many new books, resources, and other researchers who share the "need to know" about these particular emigrants. Since the 1718 emigration is the key to so many of the families, I would like to get those of you who have interest to keep sharing under the title I placed above. I get tons of email as well and this will help us find the relevant messages. I will also include sources where you can find the information. I hope you will do the same Their reasons for immigration 29. (L#17), Parker, Edward L., Rev. Late Pastor of the Presbyterian Church in Derry, The History of Londonderry, Comprising the Towns of Derry and Londonderry, NH, Published by Perkins and Whipple, Boston, MA, 1851, Personal Library, New England Historical Genealogy Society, Boston MA, Book Reprint. P.34 "That such were their motives, we learn from a manuscript sermon of the Rev. James MacGregor, one of the four pastors who accompanied their flocks to America, and the first minister of Londonderry. It was addressed to them oil the eve of their embarking for this country. His discourse was from those very appropriate words of Moses, when conducting the chosen tribes to the Promised Land: 11 If thy presence go not with me, carry us not tip hence." In tile application of the subject to their emigration, lie states the following as reasons of their removal to America. 1. To avoid oppression and cruel bondage. 2. To shun persecution and designed ruin. 3. To withdraw from the communion of idolaters. 4. To have an opportunity of worshipping God, according to the dictates of conscience and the rules of his inspired Word" What I feel is the underlying reason. My take on this group: They were magnificent entrepreneurs 70. (L#151), Hanna, Charles A., The Scotch-Irish Vol. II or The Scot in North Britain, North Ireland, and North America, Vol. II, Originally Published: New York, 1902, Reprinted, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, 1968, 1985, 1995, 1902 reprinted 1995, Personal Library, Willow Bend Books & Family Line Publications, 65 East Main St. Westminster, MD 21157-5036, Book Reprint $37.50. "Having thus the opportunity of swelling unmolested in their own township, of controlling its civil matters, and with liberty of worship established they soon became a thriving, prosperous, and influential community. In 1723, they built a house for their minister, the Rev James MacGregor, and the next year, a meetinghouse. In six year they had four schools in the township, and within nine years of its first settlement, Londonderry-paid one fifteenth of the State tax." 29. (L#17), Parker, Edward L., Rev. Late Pastor of the Presbyterian Church in Derry, The History of Londonderry, Comprising the Towns of Derry and Londonderry, NH, Published by Perkins and Whipple, Boston, MA, 1851, Personal Library, New England Historical Genealogy Society, Boston MA, Book Reprint. P.44 Those who first settles Londonderry, NH It began Eleventh day of April, old style, 1719 Those who first composed the settlement were the following sixteen men with their families, namely: James McKeen, John Barnett, Archibald Clendenin, John Mitchell, James Sterrett, James Anderson, James Alexander, James Gregg, James Clark, James Nesmith, Allen Anderson, Robert Weir (Wear), John Morrison, Samuel Allison, Thomas Steele, and John Stuart (Stewart). These pioneers of the settlement were most of them men in middle life, robust, persevering, and adventurous, well suited to encounter the toils and endure the hardships of such an undertaking. Most of them attained to advanced age. They lived to see their descendants settled around them, and the forest into which they had penetrated converted into a fruitful field. The average age of thirteen of the number, of whose age alone we have any record, was seventy-nine years; six attained to nearly ninety, and two surpassed it. John Morrison, the oldest of this company, lived to the advanced age of ninety-seven years. 24. The Historical Booklet Committee for 250th Nutfield Anniversary Committee, Glimpses of Derry New Hampshire 1719-1969, 1969, Derry Public Library, (can be checked out), Booklet Town. To these were added were soon added: ELIAS KEYES, JOSEPH SIMONDS, JOHN GOFFE, JOHN GREGG, REV. James MACGREGOR, and DAVID CARGILL I hope all of you with the same interest will continue to communicate and share. Have Fun! Pat

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_918299456_boundary Content-ID: <0_918299456@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Any one interested in clan macpherson can find them at :- http:// www.clan-macpherson.org/ --part0_918299456_boundary Content-ID: <0_918299456@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Badenoch4@aol.com Return-path: <Badenoch4@aol.com> To: Clans-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Cklan Ferson in Ireland Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:29:26 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me the origin in Ireland of the surname Ferson ? I am new to family history however I have searched the Northern Ireland phone book and found many persons of the name Ferson and a lesser amount using the name Macpherson or Macapherson, is it possible that the Fersons are descended from the Scottish clan Macpherson of Inverness-shire . Or are they an indiginous family to peculiar to Ireland. James McPherson --part0_918299456_boundary--

Hello all, How would I go about finding whether or no my ancestors did indeed belong to a Clan. The families I speak of are from the Border area of Scotland, from which my Grandfather did not move from until 1914. While I know that SCOTT is a clan, I do not know how to determine if my SCOTT would qualify for this. The same holds true of my NESBITT, YOUNG, INGLES and CAMERON family. I would appreciate help with this. Thank you Marcia Moore Collins

Hi all ye Scots: Would anyone know of Sloanes of Kirkcudbright (kurcoobree) in Ayrshire Scotland? Janet Agnes Sloane was married to Thomas Victor Rutherford and they came to Canada after living in Unst, Shetland Isles. Any help is welcomed, and glad to exchange information. Helen Rutherford Willcox, Peterborough honie@ptbo.igs.net

Hi all, Could someone tell me if WARBRICK is a scottish name, and if so what Clan would it be associated with? Regards Githa WARRINGTON researching McQUEEN, McLEOD Isle of Skye , WARRINGTON Lieth Scotland -----Original Message----- From: CLANS-D-request@rootsweb.com <CLANS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: CLANS-D@rootsweb.com <CLANS-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 7:29 AM Subject: CLANS-D Digest V99 #13

The Dunbar family is East Lothian from 11th century and Moray 14th Century...you belong to the Clan Murray....This is according to my book Scots Kith & Kin.... Jill Van Der Reyden

Hi Sarah..... My book Scots Kiyth and Kin... can confirm this... they are connected to the Stewarts of Atholl and The Robertson Clan... Good Luck Jill Van Der Reyden

My grandparents were both from Nova Scotia. I was wondering if you have any connections. My grandmother was Margaret Chisholm, from Antigonish, Nova Scotia. She was born July 20, 1897 to Janet MacDonald and I do not know her father's name. She had two younger brothers, Sam and Alec. Her father died when she was four (about 1901). They were Catholic. My grandfather was Colin Francis MacPherson, from Springfield, Nova Scotia (Antigonish County). He was born June 4, 1885 to John (Ban) MacPherson and Catherine (Katie) MacFarlane (b. abt. 1823). They had a total of 13 children, some of his siblings were: Angus (b. Feb 1, 1896), James (b. abt. 1898), Minnie, Anne, and Daniel. John and Catherine were married in 1877 in St. Andrews Catholic Church. John MacPherson's parents were Donald and Flora. Catherine's parents were Patrick (b. abt 1779 - Glenfinnan, Moidart, Inverness, Scotland, m. abt. 1806 - South River, Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada; d. June 10, 1866 - St. Andrews, Antigonish, Nova Scotia)and Catherine (Murphy) (b. 1785 - Scotland, d. October 17. 1848 - St. Andrews, Antigonish, Nova Scotia). They were also Catholic. I have quite a bit more on the MacFarlane line, nothing more on any other lines. I would appreciate any help you can offer. Other surnames I am researching: Wilcox, Norgaard, MacDonnell, MacLeod The following are Jewish: Shindell/Shindel, Herman, Gammerman/Hammerman, Nudelman, Miller, Mailer, Mann, Levy, Leib, and Kesselman,. Thank you. You can reach me at MMShindell@aol.com Margi Shindell

In a message dated 2/5/99 1:53:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, greene_squirrel@paradise.net.nz writes: << The Dunbar family is East Lothian from 11th century and Moray 14th Century...you belong to the Clan Murray....This is according to my book Scots Kith & Kin... >> Dunbar is also a Clan unto itself with a standing Chief, Tartan and Arms. The Clan Dunbar society is also Armigerous. Michael MacFarlane

Hello fellow listers, I'm new to this list and am wondering if anyone has answer to my question. Does anyone have any information on the Clan Allan Stewarts???? Head of this Clan supposedly was Sir Allan Stewart, who was the natural son of the Earl of Moray. Our ancestor, Archibald Stewart b. 31 May 1767 - d. in 1851 somewhere in Scotland, was supposed to have been an ancestor to these Stewarts. I have traced Archibald's family back to late 1600's. His grandfather, John Stewart may have been born in the late 1600's, perhaps around 1692, presuming he was 25 at the time of his marriage in 1717. Any information on this particular Clan will be greatly appreciated. ILKA HUNTER Wisconsin, USA searching: Mathieson, Stewart, Hunter, Christie, Anderson, Penman, Halden

Hello, I am looking for any information on Clan Dunbar and various branches. I am trying ascertain which branch my family is descended from. Any help would be gratly appreciated. My 2nd ggrandparents came to this country in 1885 from Airdrie. Thankyou, Theresa Nelson

I recently learned of a note found in my ggg grandfather’s Bible, “In Wattermish, October 11, 1750, Samuel Campbell, Surgeon in the Isle of Skye and present tax man of Uginola, was married to Ann McLeod, daughter of John W. McLeod of Ray”. Does that fit anyone’s family line? Thanks in advance for any suggestions on where I should start to confirm this information and find descendants. Your help will be appreciated. Dorothy e-mail: d_shankle@mindspring.com

Hello Everyone I have heard that McGLASHAN is connected to the STEWARTs of Atholl, Perthshire. Can anyone out there confirm and possibly expand on this? Many thanks Sarah J MacDonald Surrey, England sjmacdonald@sjmacdonald.demon.co.uk

ANOTHER INTERESTING POSTING FROM THE NOVA-SCOTIA LIST: "1833 Carried Body of Priest from Halifax to New Glasgow Iona, May 15, Research on the part of Rev. A. A. Johnston, Historian for the Diocese of Antigonish, has turned up an interesting item of the early history of Cape Breton Island and Victoria County. This has to do with Rev. Father Alexander MacDonald of Arisaig, Antigonish county, who died in Halifax on April 17, 1816. Father MacDonald was known to the Scottish pioneers as "An Sgart Mor" (the big priest) due to his stalwart build. Around this period - one hundred and fifty years ago - only one priest resided in Cape Breton Island. This was the Rev. Father Le Jamtel, stationed at Arichat, who ministered largely to the French and Indians. 'An Sagart Mor used to come from Arisaig to visit Scottish Catholic settlements in Cape Breton. Generally this journey would be on foot, and there would be no roads connecting the various settlement. It will be remembered that in 1816 Cape Breton Island was a separate province from the one on the mainland Nova Scotia. It was customary for the mainland government to summon clergymen and other leading inhabitants from different sections of the province to Halifax about once a year to advise the government on local conditions. It was while on this mission that the priest passed away suddenly in 1816. The time of year was noted, April, and as usual cold, and the Strait of Canso blocked by ice, with the same conditions prevailing outside - Cape Breton waters were jammed with drift ice. The government decided to bury the priest in Halifax, and to return the remains to Arisaig on a sloop or frigate when navigation became possible. Government records in Halifax reveal that the government was officially represented at the burial by the following gentlemen:' John Cameron, Edward Mortimer, (an illegible name), John G. Marshall, D. Harthorne Jr., William Kidston Jr., thomas G. Keegan, M.D., Rev. P. M. Mignault." The last name presumably that of a Catholic priest from one of the Acadian settlements. Father MacDonald's remains did not rest in Halifax very long. As soon as his flock in Arisaig learned of his death and burial they set out immediately for the capital. They appreciated the offer of the government to transfer the remains later at government expense, but that was too long to wait, and they were determined that his remains would rest in Arisaig as soon and as speedily as they could arrange it. They made the journey to the capital on foot. There was a road of sorts leading to New Glasgow, but from there to Halifax they tramped through deep snow and dense forest. Returning they carried thebody of their beloved "agart mor" on their shoulders until they again reached New Glasgow, where a delegation from home awaited them with a horse and sleigh to receive the body. The William Kidston Jr., mentioned above would very likely be the same who came to Baddeck in 1833 and located on what has since been known as Kidston's Island. We know that there were three generations of kidstons bearing the name William. Two of them are buried in Baddeck.