Sorry folks, I hit send before I added Bob Boyd to the address list. Just to make sure that we all can get his advise on who to both select an DNA company, what test to undertake and to ensure all those Boyds that have done or will done an DNA test in the New Year become linked to his BOYD-DNA PROJECT. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 7:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Boyd DNA testing and comparing results Good morning all On 7 December 2019, John Boyd, had this included in his reply to the list. “@David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage of the sales, but we'll see.” I have recently seen from FTDNA that they had a “sale” on DNA testing, but as I automatically deleted it, so, I am not sure if it has finished for this period or not. [Perhaps other can advise on this aspect.] However, being a Boyd of GOOD SCOTS STOCK, I am quite sure that “early” in the new year FTDNA will have another sale where you can get this done at a reduced price to that normally offered. And I also assume that other DNA companies will as well. So compare their prices and the level of testing required, etc However, I think that there are three types of DNA tests that can be done. From my vary limited knowledge of DNA, I would link that you need to get all three done, so that you can trace your male Boyd line back as far as it can go, but also to be able to find 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc cousins of the females in your family Branch. The other aspect that people may need to get advice on, is with which ever company you choose to undertake, what are the processes that will allow you to have your DNA compared with other Companies. I had one DNA test taken in 2011 at the home of the President of the House of Boyd Society – which I understood was with FTDNA – and I had an second test done at Bannockburn in 2014, which I understood that the University of Strathclyde was also doing through FTDNA, but at no time have I received any message that I had one perfect match. (This may have occurred, as I found out by accident earlier this year that any connections or results from my 2011 test were going to Mrs McLachlan Email Address and not to me.) And the second aspect, I assume that a number of male Boyds have got DNA testing done but have not joined the BOYD DNA Project. So, Bob Boyd, what do these people need to do, to have their DNA results included in the BOYD DNA PROJECT? And those male Boyds that have not yet undertaken an DNA test – when you do – please ensure also to link your results to Bob’s DNA PROJECT. Thank you for helping to build this knowledge about Clan Boyd members. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: John Boyd Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Getting stuck finding the parents of William Boyd [b. 1772 in NC, d. 1852 in Montgomery, AL] Good afternoon everyone, @David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage of the sales, but we'll see. Thank you everyone, John Boyd

To be clear: For us male Boyds it's the Y-DNA test that is important. The 111 marker version is best. Presently it's on offer at 199 US Dollars. Then there's the all-important Boyd Project to join. Thank you. David Boyd [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> Sent: 08 December 2019 21:48 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Fw: Boyd DNA testing and comparing results Sorry folks, I hit send before I added Bob Boyd to the address list. Just to make sure that we all can get his advise on who to both select an DNA company, what test to undertake and to ensure all those Boyds that have done or will done an DNA test in the New Year become linked to his BOYD-DNA PROJECT. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 7:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Boyd DNA testing and comparing results Good morning all On 7 December 2019, John Boyd, had this included in his reply to the list. “@David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage of the sales, but we'll see.” I have recently seen from FTDNA that they had a “sale” on DNA testing, but as I automatically deleted it, so, I am not sure if it has finished for this period or not. [Perhaps other can advise on this aspect.] However, being a Boyd of GOOD SCOTS STOCK, I am quite sure that “early” in the new year FTDNA will have another sale where you can get this done at a reduced price to that normally offered. And I also assume that other DNA companies will as well. So compare their prices and the level of testing required, etc However, I think that there are three types of DNA tests that can be done. From my vary limited knowledge of DNA, I would link that you need to get all three done, so that you can trace your male Boyd line back as far as it can go, but also to be able to find 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc cousins of the females in your family Branch. The other aspect that people may need to get advice on, is with which ever company you choose to undertake, what are the processes that will allow you to have your DNA compared with other Companies. I had one DNA test taken in 2011 at the home of the President of the House of Boyd Society – which I understood was with FTDNA – and I had an second test done at Bannockburn in 2014, which I understood that the University of Strathclyde was also doing through FTDNA, but at no time have I received any message that I had one perfect match. (This may have occurred, as I found out by accident earlier this year that any connections or results from my 2011 test were going to Mrs McLachlan Email Address and not to me.) And the second aspect, I assume that a number of male Boyds have got DNA testing done but have not joined the BOYD DNA Project. So, Bob Boyd, what do these people need to do, to have their DNA results included in the BOYD DNA PROJECT? And those male Boyds that have not yet undertaken an DNA test – when you do – please ensure also to link your results to Bob’s DNA PROJECT. Thank you for helping to build this knowledge about Clan Boyd members. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: John Boyd Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Getting stuck finding the parents of William Boyd [b. 1772 in NC, d. 1852 in Montgomery, AL] Good afternoon everyone, @David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage of the sales, but we'll see. Thank you everyone, John Boyd _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Mike, David, All, I will try to address the question of what does one have to do to get included in the Boyd DNA project: The Boyd yDNA project is hosted by Family Tree DNA (FTDNA).  To join the project you must have a valid "kit number" from FTDNA. You can obtain a kit number by purchasing a test from FTDNA or by transferring your test results from another company to the FTDNA database.  There is a cost for either approach. Once you have a kit number you log into your account and send a join request to the Boyd project.  We will always accept members with the surname Boyd. We are a surname project.  We use information from the y-chromosome to identify the relationship between Boyd's and Boyd lines.  The y-chromosome is passed from father to son as is the surname.  Females do not have a y-chromosome and therefore cannot be the person tested although we have many kits where a female is the administrator of the kit on behalf of a relative. There are two types of tests that can be taken with respect to the y-chromosome.  Short Tandem Repeat counts (STR's) identify the number of times a specific pattern repeats at a specific location.  Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNP's) represent a change in protein type at a specific location. Currently only FTDNA offers y-chromosome specific tests.  For STR testing there is a 37-marker test and a 111-marker test.  For most Boyd's we would recommend the 111-marker test to provide the resolution we need.  SNP's can be tested individually or in groups of related SNP's.  The selection of specific SNP's to be tested would only be done after other testing (for example the 111-marker test) has provided information identifying good candidates.  FTDNA also offers a very expensive test called the Big Y 700 which tests 700 STR's and many thousands of SNP's. Our "Results" web page is where we display the results of our member's STR testing.  We also use it to show related Boyd lines. After we receive your STR test results we group you in our results and work with you to identify any further testing and what the results may mean. Most testing companies these days only offer an autosomal test which covers the whole genome.  The results can be brought over to FTDNA for inclusion in their database and comparison with other autosomal test results.  However we do not use the results in the Boyd project as it is too difficult to identify how the match occurred.  A Boyd may very well match many other Boyd's but there is no reason to expect the match occurs through the patrilinear line. Bob Boyd, Boyd DNA Project Administrator On 2019-12-08 2:48 PM, Mike Boyd wrote: > Sorry folks, I hit send before I added Bob Boyd to the address list. > > Just to make sure that we all can get his advise on who to both select > an DNA company, what test to undertake and to ensure all those Boyds > that have done or will done an DNA test in the New Year become linked > to his BOYD-DNA PROJECT. > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd > Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 7:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Boyd DNA testing and comparing results > > Good morning all > > On 7 December 2019, John Boyd, had this included in his reply to the > list. > > “@David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others > reach > out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be > ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage > of the > sales, but we'll see.” > > I have recently seen from FTDNA that they had a “sale” on DNA testing, > but > as I automatically deleted it, so, I am not sure if it has finished > for this > period or not.  [Perhaps other can advise on this aspect.] > > However, being a Boyd of GOOD SCOTS STOCK, I am quite sure that > “early” in > the new year FTDNA will have another sale where you can get this done > at a > reduced price to that normally offered.  And I also assume that other DNA > companies will as well.  So compare their prices and the level of testing > required, etc > > However, I think that there are three types of DNA tests that can be > done. > From my vary limited knowledge of DNA, I would link that you need to > get all > three done, so that you can trace your male Boyd line back as far as > it can > go, but also to be able to find 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc cousins of the > females in > your family Branch. > > The other aspect that people may need to get advice on, is with which > ever > company you choose to undertake, what are the processes that will > allow you > to have your DNA compared with other Companies. > > I had one DNA test taken in 2011 at the home of the President of the > House > of Boyd Society – which I understood was with FTDNA – and I had an second > test done at Bannockburn in 2014, which I understood that the > University of > Strathclyde was also doing through FTDNA, but at no time have I > received any > message that I had one perfect match.  (This may have occurred, as I > found > out by accident earlier this year that any connections or results from my > 2011 test were going to Mrs McLachlan Email Address and not to me.) > > And the second aspect, I assume that a number of male Boyds have got DNA > testing done but have not joined the BOYD DNA Project. > > So, Bob Boyd, what do these people need to do, to have their DNA results > included in the BOYD DNA PROJECT? > > And those male Boyds that have not yet undertaken an DNA test – when you > do – please ensure also to link your results to Bob’s DNA PROJECT. > > Thank you for helping to build this knowledge about Clan Boyd members. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: John Boyd > Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 1:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Getting stuck finding the parents of William Boyd > [b. 1772 in NC, d. 1852 in Montgomery, AL] > > Good afternoon everyone, > > > @David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach > out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be > ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage > of the > sales, but we'll see. > > Thank you everyone, > John Boyd