Quaker naming patterns: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/357299/curious-know-how-quakers-started-using-biblical-first-names#:~:targetText=Quakers%20usually%20followed%20a%20naming,pattern%20sometimes%20varied%20by%20order. Colonial naming patterns: https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/walker/29775/ This book can also be very helpful in researching naming patterns: Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hackett Fischer

Amazon’s capacity to intuit what I am thinking about is remarkable: > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1626540594?ref=em_1p_0_im&ref_=pe_2313390_457901930 <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1626540594?ref=em_1p_0_im&ref_=pe_2313390_457901930> > On Dec 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Mary Helton via CLANBOYD <[email protected]> wrote: > > Quaker naming patterns: > https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/357299/curious-know-how-quakers-started-using-biblical-first-names#:~:targetText=Quakers%20usually%20followed%20a%20naming,pattern%20sometimes%20varied%20by%20order. > > Colonial naming patterns: > https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/walker/29775/ > > This book can also be very helpful in researching naming patterns: > Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hackett Fischer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Bruce P. Shields 6405 Garfield Rd Hyde Park VT 05655 (802) 888 5165 [email protected]

In a message dated 12/7/2019 11:56:48 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: If I remember correctly sometimes, if there was a person with the same name in a community, not related to each other necessarily (but could be as in Uncle and Nephew) they were often called Sr and Jr to distinguish one from the other. Anyone else heard this? Quaker naming patterns: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/357299/curious-know-how-quakers-started-using-biblical-first-names#:~:targetText=Quakers%20usually%20followed%20a%20naming,pattern%20sometimes%20varied%20by%20order. Colonial naming patterns:https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/walker/29775/ This book can also be very helpful in researching naming patterns:Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hackett Fischer

The use of Jr. in colonial times in America referred to the younger person of the same name ie John Boyd. I have also seen III used for 3 John Boyds. No one used Sr. That is a genealogy term not seen until post 1776. Tombstones will have I, II, III as in the George Boyd of Chester, PA family we were just talking about. This is in reference to legal or "government" records. Family stories WILL include Sr. and Jr. but that's for clarity and written well after the people died. So consider the source and don't assume Jr. means a familial connection. HOWEVER, my research shows a clear pattern of first name repetition in Boyd families such that I can almost name a specific family just off the 1st name of the men. Women don't seem to have the same variety but unique mother to daughter names do pass down. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected] On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:48 PM Mary Helton via CLANBOYD < [email protected]> wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/7/2019 11:56:48 AM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > If I remember correctly sometimes, if there was a person with the same > name in a community, not related to each other necessarily (but could be as > in Uncle and Nephew) they were often called Sr and Jr to distinguish one > from the other. Anyone else heard this? >

In our Shields who originated in Scotland everyone was called John or Thomas or Elizabeth with no Sr, Jr, I, II, III or anything else! Very confusing! Debbie On Sun, 8 Dec 2019, 04:28 Colin Brooks, <[email protected]> wrote: > The use of Jr. in colonial times in America referred to the younger person > of the same name ie John Boyd. I have also seen III used for 3 John Boyds. > No one used Sr. That is a genealogy term not seen until post 1776. > Tombstones will have I, II, III as in the George Boyd of Chester, PA family > we were just talking about. > This is in reference to legal or "government" records. Family stories > WILL include Sr. and Jr. but that's for clarity and written well after the > people died. So consider the source and don't assume Jr. means a familial > connection. HOWEVER, my research shows a clear pattern of first name > repetition in Boyd families such that I can almost name a specific family > just off the 1st name of the men. Women don't seem to have the same variety > but unique mother to daughter names do pass down. > > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > [email protected] > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:48 PM Mary Helton via CLANBOYD < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/7/2019 11:56:48 AM Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > If I remember correctly sometimes, if there was a person with the same > > name in a community, not related to each other necessarily (but could be > as > > in Uncle and Nephew) they were often called Sr and Jr to distinguish one > > from the other. Anyone else heard this? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

In the family letters written to Alexander Shields/ Agnes Young (1825-1850) similar names are distinguished by the farm name. These are all in Loudoun Parish. For instance, John Young of Meadowfoot is commonly referenced in the letters as Meadowfoot. There are at least three Andrew Youngs — Andrew Young Newintax, Andrew Young Hareshaw. There were so many William Youngs that all were marked in some way. The eldest of them had farmed for nearly 50 years at The Hill of Lanfine — it took much pondering of the letters to realize that his name was William Young at Hill, not William surnamed Hill. There were at one point more than five Youngs named Alexander. One who graduated Glasgow in medicine was normally referred to as Dr. Alexander. The Andersons of Loudoun Parish who moved to Glover, VT, used nicknames. There were at one point about five named James Anderson. The father was known as Mossend, from the name of the farm in Darvel he migrated from. His son was Skellyhill, the farm he had last occupied. Several others in the next generation were distinguished by occupation: Carpenter Jimmy, Cooper Jimmy. > On Dec 8, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Deborah Rea <[email protected]> wrote: > > In our Shields who originated in Scotland everyone was called John or > Thomas or Elizabeth with no Sr, Jr, I, II, III or anything else! Very > confusing! > > Debbie > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2019, 04:28 Colin Brooks, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The use of Jr. in colonial times in America referred to the younger person >> of the same name ie John Boyd. I have also seen III used for 3 John Boyds. >> No one used Sr. That is a genealogy term not seen until post 1776. >> Tombstones will have I, II, III as in the George Boyd of Chester, PA family >> we were just talking about. >> This is in reference to legal or "government" records. Family stories >> WILL include Sr. and Jr. but that's for clarity and written well after the >> people died. So consider the source and don't assume Jr. means a familial >> connection. HOWEVER, my research shows a clear pattern of first name >> repetition in Boyd families such that I can almost name a specific family >> just off the 1st name of the men. Women don't seem to have the same variety >> but unique mother to daughter names do pass down. >> >> Colin Brooks >> The 1718 Project >> [email protected] >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 10:48 PM Mary Helton via CLANBOYD < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 12/7/2019 11:56:48 AM Central Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> If I remember correctly sometimes, if there was a person with the same >>> name in a community, not related to each other necessarily (but could be >> as >>> in Uncle and Nephew) they were often called Sr and Jr to distinguish one >>> from the other. Anyone else heard this? >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________ >> NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any >> other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed >> confirm the facts in original sources. >> >> Clan Boyd Society, International >> (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Bruce P. Shields 6405 Garfield Rd Hyde Park VT 05655 (802) 888 5165 [email protected]