Colin The Samuel Boyd of Salem is a different person to Samuel Boyd, bc 1718 in Knockavaddy, near Cookstown, County Tyrone. The later Larry Boyd's father wrote a book in 1991 - the title of which I posted a week or so ago - and in that he links this Samuel Boyd to Captain James Boyd, son of William Boyd, first Earl of Kilmarnock Quite a number of the IT trees incorrectly show this linkage, with their Captain James Boyd having died in about 1704 but Samuel Boyd not being born until about 1718. I was "trying" to set out that the "Captain James Boyd" was not most likely not the Earl's son. Does that clear it up for you? At this time do you know where this Samuel Boyd, who is in Salem in about 1718 came from in Ireland? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 10:56 PM To: clanboyd Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland - Dungannan & possible Knockavaddy, Tyrone Who are you talking about Mike? "HOWEVER, this Samuel Boyd and the three brothers that came in about 1720 to Boston, MA (with one leaving the ship at Block Island, RI) “COULD” be the son of a “Captain James Boyd” from Ireland or the son just of an “James Boyd of Ireland”. I am not aware of Samuel and 3 brothers who came in 1720. There is a Samuel circa 1718 in Salem, but how is he connected to Linda? Richard Boyd (of Michigan) is not related to this Samuel, and in 20+ years of research I have only seen 2 women who claim a descendant from this Samuel's line (of Salem, Massachusetts). -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected] _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Mike, Just a reminder: we New Windsor Boyds are still missing the arrival time AND place for our County Down Samuel Boyd. Just because he ended up in NYC and had property in New Windsor, doesn't mean he started out there. Melanie Gustin -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland - Dungannan & possible Knockavaddy, Tyrone Colin The Samuel Boyd of Salem is a different person to Samuel Boyd, bc 1718 in Knockavaddy, near Cookstown, County Tyrone. The later Larry Boyd's father wrote a book in 1991 - the title of which I posted a week or so ago - and in that he links this Samuel Boyd to Captain James Boyd, son of William Boyd, first Earl of Kilmarnock Quite a number of the IT trees incorrectly show this linkage, with their Captain James Boyd having died in about 1704 but Samuel Boyd not being born until about 1718. I was "trying" to set out that the "Captain James Boyd" was not most likely not the Earl's son. Does that clear it up for you? At this time do you know where this Samuel Boyd, who is in Salem in about 1718 came from in Ireland? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 10:56 PM To: clanboyd Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland - Dungannan & possible Knockavaddy, Tyrone Who are you talking about Mike? "HOWEVER, this Samuel Boyd and the three brothers that came in about 1720 to Boston, MA (with one leaving the ship at Block Island, RI) “COULD” be the son of a “Captain James Boyd” from Ireland or the son just of an “James Boyd of Ireland”. I am not aware of Samuel and 3 brothers who came in 1720. There is a Samuel circa 1718 in Salem, but how is he connected to Linda? Richard Boyd (of Michigan) is not related to this Samuel, and in 20+ years of research I have only seen 2 women who claim a descendant from this Samuel's line (of Salem, Massachusetts). -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected] _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Folks It is thought that Samuel Boyd, Master Tailor, came to NYC or the USA in 1740, from Ballyhalbert, Ards Peninsular, County Down. He is the eldest of six known sons, and when he died in 1757 in NYC, his father was still alive but his mother had died in 1751 and is buried in Ballyhalbert Churchyard. (And I would not be at all surprised if somewhere we may find another son who is older. Although in this families case, it appears that the youngest son has remained behind in Ireland.) In about 1756, three of his brothers and a sister came to NYC and each were given a Farm in Samuel's will of 1757. One of the things that I have yet to find out about County Down Boyds is to which Colony in the USA they moved to!! County Down is said to have the most Boyd families in Ireland, but I have not seen a migration trail such as happened in County Antrim where most "seemed" from available evidence to have gone to Pennsylvania. Although, I fully expect that Colin Brooks will rightly say that some of the 10 or so 1718 Boyds that came with Rev MacGregor and his five ships to Boston also had County Antrim Boyd, plus County Londonderry and maybe some from County Donegal. HOWEVER, MELANIE'S QUESTION IS QUITE VALID This Samuel Boyd is the first known Boyd in New York in 1740 and it seems that others did not follow this family until the 1760's when several Boyd families went to the Albany, NY area. The dozen or so, people researching this family of Samuel Boyd and his brothers and sister, have yet to find out form which port in Ireland he left to go to America in 1740. Nor are they certain as to which port he landed in in 1740. At the southern end of the Ards Peninsular, is the port of Portaferry - in which at this time ships were being built as well as trading was happening - so it is quite possible that these ships were going to Boston, MA or other New England ports to bring back timber for ship building. Or they may have been going to the PA Ports. And it appears that very few shipping records a now available to tell us where people landed before they turn up in a different location. Although in this case with New York City being a major port, that would be your starting point to try to find passenger records. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Gustin Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland - Dungannan & possible Knockavaddy, Tyrone Hi Mike, Just a reminder: we New Windsor Boyds are still missing the arrival time AND place for our County Down Samuel Boyd. Just because he ended up in NYC and had property in New Windsor, doesn't mean he started out there. Melanie Gustin -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 8:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland - Dungannan & possible Knockavaddy, Tyrone Colin The Samuel Boyd of Salem is a different person to Samuel Boyd, bc 1718 in Knockavaddy, near Cookstown, County Tyrone.
Linda and all Boyds of Donaghmore, County Tyrone, Ireland When I was looking at the 1994 IGI for the UK for both County Tyrone and Donaghmore, I was able to find these entries. These would suggest that there were several brothers and perhaps at least two cousins with two Robert Boyds. This would suggest to me that the Robert Boyd born in 1786 at Donaghmore, also had brothers and cousins living in this area at about the same time. FAMILY # 1 Agnes BOYD (F)............ C: 24 Jun 1778 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 Father: James BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ Mother: Ann SP: 19 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 FAMILY # 2 Jane BOYD (F)............. C: 19 Aug 1787 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 Father: Abraham BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ Mother: Sarah SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 FAMILY # 3 James BOYD (M)............ C: 18 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ Mother: Mary Ane SP: 13 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 FAMILY # 4 Ane BOYD (F).............. C: 11 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ Mother: Mary SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 James BOYD (M)............ C: Jan 1797 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 Alexander BOYD (M)......... C: Sep 1798 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 FAMILY # 5 James BOYD (M)............ C: Feb 1800 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 Father: Edward BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ Mother: Alice SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 FAMILY # 6 Anne BOYD (F)............... B: 6 Aug 1864 B: 25 Jul 1987 LANGE Ba: C701232 Father: John BOYD 0756, Donaghmore, Down, Ireland E: 13 Nov 1987 LANGE So: 101090 Mother: Mary BAGNELL SP: 18 Nov 1987 LANGE If you can make any connections to any of these entries please tell this net list. Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008- 2019) 31/10/2019 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland Hi Mike & Group: I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: ***** As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. ********** I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. ******************** Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. ****** So I continue to research….. Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:11, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: >
Mike has sent me some possible Boyd family connections & asked me to respond as to any that might fit my line. I have family #4 listed below in my Tree though there is still much research to be done but they seemed likely candidates. Ane, James & Alexander Boyd are likely candidates to be siblings of Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone. I have also found a Sarah, Mary, Margaret & Samuel Boyd born Donaghmore in the right time frame to be siblings of Robert b 1786. I have also been struggling to place a John Boyd born 1801 to a Robert & Mary Miller Boyd. I am trying to find the owner of this Boyd branches Bible which is said to give his birthplace as Crossley Co Tyrone. I do not find Crossley with an online search. This John Boyd died in 1882 in Trumbull Co Ohio & had property in the same area as my Robert Boyd leading a genealogist at the local library to think they were probably related. Big thank you to Mike for all his work on this Boyd line. I am slowly working through all the emails as time permits Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 16:39, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > Boyds of Donaghmore, County Tyrone, Ireland > > When I was looking at the 1994 IGI for the UK for both County Tyrone and Donaghmore, I was able to find these entries. These would suggest that there were several brothers and perhaps at least two cousins with two Robert Boyds. This would suggest to me that the Robert Boyd born in 1786 at Donaghmore, also had brothers and cousins living in this area at about the same time. > > FAMILY # 1 > > Agnes BOYD (F)............ C: 24 Jun 1778 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: James BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Ann SP: 19 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 2 > > Jane BOYD (F)............. C: 19 Aug 1787 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Abraham BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Sarah SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 3 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: 18 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary Ane SP: 13 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 4 > > Ane BOYD (F).............. C: 11 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: Jan 1797 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > Alexander BOYD (M)......... C: Sep 1798 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 5 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: Feb 1800 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Edward BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Alice SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 6 > > Anne BOYD (F)............... B: 6 Aug 1864 B: 25 Jul 1987 LANGE Ba: C701232 > Father: John BOYD 0756, Donaghmore, Down, Ireland E: 13 Nov 1987 LANGE So: 101090 > Mother: Mary BAGNELL SP: 18 Nov 1987 LANGE > > > If you can make any connections to any of these entries please tell this net list. > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008- 2019) > 31/10/2019 > > >
Linda and all What details do you have for – “I have also found a Sarah, Mary, Margaret & Samuel Boyd born Donaghmore in the right time frame to be siblings of Robert b 1786.” And are any born before Robert’s birth in 1786? With this list of 8 children, you maybe able to “compile” a reverse naming pattern tree or table to provide as a guide to both Robert Boyd’s siblings and to Mary Miller’s family. Have you joined the two County Tyrone net lists at rootsweb.com to advertise both your known and the various part you think are connected? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:05 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] My Boyds in Ireland Mike has sent me some possible Boyd family connections & asked me to respond as to any that might fit my line. I have family #4 listed below in my Tree though there is still much research to be done but they seemed likely candidates. Ane, James & Alexander Boyd are likely candidates to be siblings of Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone. I have also found a Sarah, Mary, Margaret & Samuel Boyd born Donaghmore in the right time frame to be siblings of Robert b 1786. Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 16:39, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all
Mike & List I believe that 3 of the below people Mike shared with us are from my family: Ane Boyd born circa 1790 James Boyd born 1797 Alexander Boyd born 1798 All records listed as from Donaghmore Co Tyrone. Their baptism records list them as the children of Robert & Mary Boyd. Robert Boyd my 4x great grandfather was born abt 1760 Dungannon Co Tyrone & married Mary Miller (Millar) There are 8 baptism and/or birth records in the same place that provide dates that could make them children of Robert & Mary: Sarah b 1783 Mary b 1785 Robert b 1786 (my line) Margaret b 1787 Ane b 1790 James b 1797 Alexander b 1798 Samuel b 1804 I am also trying to place a John Boyd born 1801 in this line but I don’t find him in the Baptism/Birth records as yet. Information on him comes from someone who supplied me with 2nd hand information from a Bible which I have been trying to track down as the last person known to own it is now deceased. The Bible was in Trumbull Co Ohio where my Boyd line settled. the Bible is said to list him as the 2nd son of Robert & Sarah Millar Boyd but the birthdate I have from census data would place him as the 4th son. Of course all the birth dates could be off a bit! Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 16:39, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > Boyds of Donaghmore, County Tyrone, Ireland > > When I was looking at the 1994 IGI for the UK for both County Tyrone and Donaghmore, I was able to find these entries. These would suggest that there were several brothers and perhaps at least two cousins with two Robert Boyds. This would suggest to me that the Robert Boyd born in 1786 at Donaghmore, also had brothers and cousins living in this area at about the same time. > > FAMILY # 1 > > Agnes BOYD (F)............ C: 24 Jun 1778 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: James BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Ann SP: 19 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 2 > > Jane BOYD (F)............. C: 19 Aug 1787 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Abraham BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Sarah SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 3 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: 18 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary Ane SP: 13 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 4 > > Ane BOYD (F).............. C: 11 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: Jan 1797 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > Alexander BOYD (M)......... C: Sep 1798 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 5 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: Feb 1800 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Edward BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Alice SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 6 > > Anne BOYD (F)............... B: 6 Aug 1864 B: 25 Jul 1987 LANGE Ba: C701232 > Father: John BOYD 0756, Donaghmore, Down, Ireland E: 13 Nov 1987 LANGE So: 101090 > Mother: Mary BAGNELL SP: 18 Nov 1987 LANGE > > > If you can make any connections to any of these entries please tell this net list. > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008- 2019) > 31/10/2019 > > >