Hi, Unknown to most members she is tight with the people who run Rootsweb which means she can do almost anything she wants. She can look at any Rootsweb page including mine not having to be a subscriber. That goes with the Y-DNA group, and most of the other genealogical programs. According to Morris Monroe Stewart, she wormed her way into CSSA (Clan Stewart Society) but she didn't succeed in hurting that organization. They booted her out years ago, 1980s. Yes Mike Boyd is an encyclopedia of Boyd family data and truly is a blessing to us all. Rich On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 9:03:51 PM EDT, Linda Myers <[email protected]> wrote: Hi RichYes I left Laurens monopoly when you did & appreciate the work you did to keep us all informed.Some years later,  someone added me to the Facebook group & the other email boards.   I imagine it was Lauren as she also manages the Y-DNA & I did test my Dad before he died in 2005.     Mike does a lot of good work for all BoydsI just saw that someone is going to set up a Boyd Facebook page separate from Laurens control so that will be wonderful.Take care of yourself.Linda On Sep 22, 2019, at 15:34, [email protected] wrote: I think I remember talking to you. It has been many years and I am not very active in genealogy any longer.Mike Boyd of Australia has finally found out about Lauren. Thanks for contacting me. Rich On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 4:03:29 PM EDT, Linda Myers <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Rich I read your info on Clan Boyd.  I do remember when you were removed by Lauren.  I have never joined the Society since then.    I am glad you & Mike are bringing these problems to everyones attention. I thought I’d just follow up with you personally rather than on a public forum. Facebook does make it quite easy to set up a group.    It can be public or private or closed & there is info on how to make that decision. I imagine you would want a public group so more people could find it.    Once set up, you can invite people to join through Facebook & also send email links to your friends.    It can be as simple a site as you want or can be more complex if you are interested in moderating info before it is published or just let everyone post as they see fit.    Facebook has become the place to go whether we like it or not.    Several groups I’ve belonged to for years transitioned over because it reaches more people & is easy to use. I hope you are well & that Boyds can have an avenue of contact that isn’t a monopoly. Linda Boyd Myers

Richard, Linda and all Mrs McLachlan "CLAIMS" to be tight with those who run Rootsweb.com From being an Board member now for 12 years, I have learnt that we only get Mrs McLachlan's version and not the Primary source. She wants each Board member to ONLY SEND AGENDA ITEMS TO HER, so that means that the other Board members have no idea as to what is going on. Since about May 2019, when she blocked me from answering Queries on the [email protected] net list, the volume has dropped quite a lot. In the last 5 or 6 weeks, I think that there were only 3 postings about 3 weeks ago. whereas this list in the last month has greatly increased its volume. (But there still must be still quite a lot of people just siting back and not telling others what their Brick Walls are - there is always someone whom can give an answer - when you ask!!) However, what rootsweb.com perhaps do not realised is that Mrs McLachlan is now virtually blind. At the AGM in Salt Lake City on 8 June 2019, she had to read her phone at an inch from her eyes and then use an magnifying glass to read the text. She Clans to administer some 100 or more rootsweb.com sites. This eye sight problems started in the Loon Mountain, NH Games in 2016 and this year was far worse. In addition she has "control problems". She tells everyone that she knows how to run an Society, when she clearly does not. At the 11 AGM's I have been to - there has been no Auditors report as required by our BY-Laws. If you go into the HBS website and under The Society, 2nd green box, then click on Officers. You will not find any person listed as Auditor. You need to appoint an Auditor, so that the Audit report can be submitted with our Annual Financial Report. For those HBS member on this list, look at your Summer Issue of Dean Road that was sent out on 25 August 2019. There is no audit report!! The Treasurer, is said to report to the Board each month on getting expenditure approved - which implies an month Board meeting - this has never happened under Mrs McLachlan over the 12 years that I have been on the Board. In January 2019, this year, I submitted these and 4 or 5 other items to the Board for the January 2019 meeting and she did not call a Board meeting until 28 August 2019, after I had submitted my NOMINATION for the Executive Board on 27 August 2019, when she put up an draft Ballot paper without my name included and four people appearing on it even though there was no call to advise people as to which positions were up for election. Between 21 May and 21 August 2019, I submitted some 18 Articles and Queries, to the Editor of Dean Road. Not one of those appeared in Dean Road, so people could learn more about our Boyd History since 1111 A. D. I was told that in the last few days when someone pointed out on her Facebook page that a person was making an Scottish National Party (SNP) Statement they got banned for 7 days, but it would appear that the person making the statement was free to post. (I can only assume this person was giving her version of Scottish History.) CLAN BOYD MEMBERS have two more years to work towards removing Mrs McLachlan from her position of Chairman of the House of Boyd Society (and her COMPLETE CONTROL) when she is due for re-election. That will be 23 years as the HBS Chairman out of our 33 years existence. I have already told the Executive Board that I will stand for the Chairmanship in 2021. Although from this years elections procedures, that does not mean very much, as she will pick her own Candidates whom will be the only ones allowed on the Ballot paper. If that can't be done, then IT WILL MEAN A NEW CLAN BOYD SOCIETY WILL HAVE TO FORMED TO REPRESENT THE 99.99% OF CLAN BOYD MEMBERS THAT SHE HAS EXCLUDED. Just like the new Boyd Facebook page started when she blocked three people in Scotland from talking about meeting up. I am sorry to have to outline these problems and stop the enjoyment of Clan Boyd members from finding out about their history. Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008 - 2019) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:36 AM To: Linda Myers ; Clanboyd Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Boyd Group on Facebook Hi, Unknown to most members she is tight with the people who run Rootsweb which means she can do almost anything she wants. She can look at any Rootsweb page including mine not having to be a subscriber. That goes with the Y-DNA group, and most of the other genealogical programs. According to Morris Monroe Stewart, she wormed her way into CSSA (Clan Stewart Society) but she didn't succeed in hurting that organization. They booted her out years ago, 1980s. Yes Mike Boyd is an encyclopedia of Boyd family data and truly is a blessing to us all. Rich On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 9:03:51 PM EDT, Linda Myers <[email protected]> wrote:

"IT WILL MEAN A NEW CLAN BOYD SOCIETY WILL HAVE TO FORMED TO REPRESENT THE 99.99% OF CLAN BOYD MEMBERS THAT SHE HAS EXCLUDED". I concur with this statement, Mike, a new "honest" Clan Boyd Society should be created, I for one would join!Blessings,Mary Helton-Lasser In a message dated 10/25/2019 5:46:04 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Linda What is your Boyd families origins? And how far back have you been able to go? Mike Boyd # 423 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:36 AM To: Linda Myers ; Clanboyd Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Boyd Group on Facebook Hi, Unknown to most members she is tight with the people who run Rootsweb which means she can do almost anything she wants. She can look at any Rootsweb page including mine not having to be a subscriber. That goes with the Y-DNA group, and most of the other genealogical programs. According to Morris Monroe Stewart, she wormed her way into CSSA (Clan Stewart Society) but she didn't succeed in hurting that organization. They booted her out years ago, 1980s. Yes Mike Boyd is an encyclopedia of Boyd family data and truly is a blessing to us all. Rich On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 9:03:51 PM EDT, Linda Myers <[email protected]> wrote: Hi RichYes I left Laurens monopoly when you did & appreciate the work you did to keep us all informed.Some years later, someone added me to the Facebook group & the other email boards. I imagine it was Lauren as she also manages the Y-DNA & I did test my Dad before he died in 2005. Mike does a lot of good work for all BoydsI just saw that someone is going to set up a Boyd Facebook page separate from Laurens control so that will be wonderful.Take care of yourself.Linda

Hi Mike & Group: I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: Robert Boyd born 1810 Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone and died 1890 Howland Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio (Note: I was born in Trumbull Co Ohio) He married Sarah Miller born 1823 Crubinagh Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone & died 1898 Champion Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio. They married Sept 25 1846 Derry Gortrevy Church Clonfeacle. They immigrated to the US arriving April 2 1849 New York City on ship New Zealand. They had 6 children. The oldest appears to have been born before their marriage. 1 Robert Boyd born 1846 Co Tyrone and died 1909 Trumbull Co Ohio. (Note: I do have an autosomal DNA match to this line.) 2 Eliza J Boyd born 1854 Philadelphia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio 3. John Alexander Boyd born 1856 Philadephia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio 4. Samuel Jackson Boyd born 1859 Trumbull Co Ohio & died 1930 Trumbull Co Ohio. (My great grandfather) 5. James Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1924 Trumbull Co Ohio 6. Mary S Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1942 Cleveland Cuyahoga Co Ohio (Twin to James above) ***** As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. ********** I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. ******************** Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. ****** So I continue to research….. Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:11, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda > > What is your Boyd families origins? And how far back have you been able to go? > > Mike Boyd > # 423 > > -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:36 AM > To: Linda Myers ; Clanboyd > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Boyd Group on Facebook > > Hi, > > Unknown to most members she is tight with the people who run Rootsweb which means she can do almost anything she wants. She can look at any Rootsweb page including mine not having to be a subscriber. > > That goes with the Y-DNA group, and most of the other genealogical programs. > > According to Morris Monroe Stewart, she wormed her way into CSSA (Clan Stewart Society) but she didn't succeed in hurting that organization. They booted her out years ago, 1980s. > > Yes Mike Boyd is an encyclopedia of Boyd family data and truly is a blessing to us all. > Rich > > On Sunday, September 22, 2019, 9:03:51 PM EDT, Linda Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi RichYes I left Laurens monopoly when you did & appreciate the work you did to keep us all informed.Some years later, someone added me to the Facebook group & the other email boards. I imagine it was Lauren as she also manages the Y-DNA & I did test my Dad before he died in 2005. Mike does a lot of good work for all BoydsI just saw that someone is going to set up a Boyd Facebook page separate from Laurens control so that will be wonderful.Take care of yourself.Linda > >

Linda and all The first known Boyd to settled in County Tyrone, Ireland was Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay, who was one of the 50 Undertakers. He was given either 1,000 or 1,500 acres of land at Sion Mills bounded by the River Finn, Mourne River and Derg River in 1609 in western County Tyrone. It is said that he took other Boyds with him to County Tyrone, but their names, have yet to be discovered. Across the Derg River, James Hamilton, first Earl of Abercorn, and his brother-in-law was also given land. I have not found out if any Boyd families settled on the Earl’s land either – but it is likely that happened. In 1613, Sir Thomas Boyd sold his land to James Hamilton and returned to Scotland with his wife and family. However, there seems to have been a second group of Boyds that settled in eastern County Tyrone in the Cookstown and Dungannon region. In 2019, these Boyds origins are not known to me, but could be part of those Boyds that settled on either side of the Bann River in both Counties Londonderry and Antrim or may even have come from Counties Down or Armagh. Nor do I know enough County Tyrone history to know whom were landowners in this area of County Tyrone, to see if they had any connections to Boyd families in Scotland, that may help to suggest which Shire in Scotland they came from to Ireland. There does not appear to be any 1700’s migration to Pennsylvania, as seems to be common out of County Antrim. But in the early 1800’s, I am aware of a number of Boyd families from County Tyrone coming to America and to Ohio. One of these families was Governor William Boyd of Iowa and another was the family of William Boyd, the movie actor’s family also came form County Tyrone to Ohio. I think this migration took place before the Potato Famine of the late 1840’s, but I can’t put my hands on those records at this minute. So, if you have a Boyd family in Ohio -after 1800 or 1810 – it may mean that your family came from County Tyrone!! Is it worth starting a list of those Boyd families that came from County Tyrone, Ireland? Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008-2019) 30/10/2019 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland Hi Mike & Group: I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: Robert Boyd born 1810 Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone and died 1890 Howland Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio (Note: I was born in Trumbull Co Ohio) He married Sarah Miller born 1823 Crubinagh Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone & died 1898 Champion Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio. They married Sept 25 1846 Derry Gortrevy Church Clonfeacle. They immigrated to the US arriving April 2 1849 New York City on ship New Zealand. They had 6 children. The oldest appears to have been born before their marriage. 1 Robert Boyd born 1846 Co Tyrone and died 1909 Trumbull Co Ohio. (Note: I do have an autosomal DNA match to this line.) 2 Eliza J Boyd born 1854 Philadelphia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio 3. John Alexander Boyd born 1856 Philadephia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio 4. Samuel Jackson Boyd born 1859 Trumbull Co Ohio & died 1930 Trumbull Co Ohio. (My great grandfather) 5. James Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1924 Trumbull Co Ohio 6. Mary S Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1942 Cleveland Cuyahoga Co Ohio (Twin to James above) ***** As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. ********** I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. ******************** Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. ****** So I continue to research….. Linda Boyd Myers

I have a book from 1987 which sheds a little bit of light our direction. Peter Brooke, a teacher at Queens University, in 1987 issued Ulster Presbyterianism: The Historical Perspective 1610-1970. Gill and MacMillan/ St. Martin’s Press, New York. From the index I find on page 171 a controversy from the 1830’s. It appears that the Church of Ireland which is an Anglican body refused to register marriages in which one party was Anglican if the presiding clergyman was Presbyterian. There was a pamphlet war. The Anglican side was held by Rev. Archibald Boyd, Curate of Londonderry. The Presbyterian pamphlets were endorsed by the Presbyterian Synod 1840. > On Oct 30, 2019, at 5:11 AM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > The first known Boyd to settled in County Tyrone, Ireland was Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay, who was one of the 50 Undertakers. He was given either 1,000 or 1,500 acres of land at Sion Mills bounded by the River Finn, Mourne River and Derg River in 1609 in western County Tyrone. It is said that he took other Boyds with him to County Tyrone, but their names, have yet to be discovered. > > Across the Derg River, James Hamilton, first Earl of Abercorn, and his brother-in-law was also given land. I have not found out if any Boyd families settled on the Earl’s land either – but it is likely that happened. > > In 1613, Sir Thomas Boyd sold his land to James Hamilton and returned to Scotland with his wife and family. > > However, there seems to have been a second group of Boyds that settled in eastern County Tyrone in the Cookstown and Dungannon region. In 2019, these Boyds origins are not known to me, but could be part of those Boyds that settled on either side of the Bann River in both Counties Londonderry and Antrim or may even have come from Counties Down or Armagh. Nor do I know enough County Tyrone history to know whom were landowners in this area of County Tyrone, to see if they had any connections to Boyd families in Scotland, that may help to suggest which Shire in Scotland they came from to Ireland. > > There does not appear to be any 1700’s migration to Pennsylvania, as seems to be common out of County Antrim. But in the early 1800’s, I am aware of a number of Boyd families from County Tyrone coming to America and to Ohio. One of these families was Governor William Boyd of Iowa and another was the family of William Boyd, the movie actor’s family also came form County Tyrone to Ohio. > > I think this migration took place before the Potato Famine of the late 1840’s, but I can’t put my hands on those records at this minute. > > So, if you have a Boyd family in Ohio -after 1800 or 1810 – it may mean that your family came from County Tyrone!! > > Is it worth starting a list of those Boyd families that came from County Tyrone, Ireland? > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008-2019) > 30/10/2019 > > -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM > To: Mike Boyd > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland > > Hi Mike & Group: > I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: > > Robert Boyd born 1810 Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone and died 1890 Howland Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio (Note: I was born in Trumbull Co Ohio) > He married Sarah Miller born 1823 Crubinagh Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone & died 1898 Champion Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio. > They married Sept 25 1846 Derry Gortrevy Church Clonfeacle. > They immigrated to the US arriving April 2 1849 New York City on ship New Zealand. > They had 6 children. The oldest appears to have been born before their marriage. > 1 Robert Boyd born 1846 Co Tyrone and died 1909 Trumbull Co Ohio. > (Note: I do have an autosomal DNA match to this line.) > 2 Eliza J Boyd born 1854 Philadelphia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio > 3. John Alexander Boyd born 1856 Philadephia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio > 4. Samuel Jackson Boyd born 1859 Trumbull Co Ohio & died 1930 Trumbull Co Ohio. (My great grandfather) > 5. James Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1924 Trumbull Co Ohio > 6. Mary S Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1942 Cleveland Cuyahoga Co Ohio (Twin to James above) > ***** > As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) > Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: > Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone > She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: > 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd > 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. > Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! > I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. > ********** > I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. > John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio > He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio > Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. > ******************** > Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. > A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. > ****** > So I continue to research….. > Linda Boyd Myers > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Another publication, sponsored by the [US] Presbyterian Historical Society, is Scots Breed And Susquehanna by Hubertis M. Cummmings, University of Pittsburgh Press, 1984. The index shows Adam Boyd, James Boyd, and 8 entries for Thomas Boyd. > On Oct 30, 2019, at 5:11 AM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > The first known Boyd to settled in County Tyrone, Ireland was Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay, who was one of the 50 Undertakers. He was given either 1,000 or 1,500 acres of land at Sion Mills bounded by the River Finn, Mourne River and Derg River in 1609 in western County Tyrone. It is said that he took other Boyds with him to County Tyrone, but their names, have yet to be discovered. > > Across the Derg River, James Hamilton, first Earl of Abercorn, and his brother-in-law was also given land. I have not found out if any Boyd families settled on the Earl’s land either – but it is likely that happened. > > In 1613, Sir Thomas Boyd sold his land to James Hamilton and returned to Scotland with his wife and family. > > However, there seems to have been a second group of Boyds that settled in eastern County Tyrone in the Cookstown and Dungannon region. In 2019, these Boyds origins are not known to me, but could be part of those Boyds that settled on either side of the Bann River in both Counties Londonderry and Antrim or may even have come from Counties Down or Armagh. Nor do I know enough County Tyrone history to know whom were landowners in this area of County Tyrone, to see if they had any connections to Boyd families in Scotland, that may help to suggest which Shire in Scotland they came from to Ireland. > > There does not appear to be any 1700’s migration to Pennsylvania, as seems to be common out of County Antrim. But in the early 1800’s, I am aware of a number of Boyd families from County Tyrone coming to America and to Ohio. One of these families was Governor William Boyd of Iowa and another was the family of William Boyd, the movie actor’s family also came form County Tyrone to Ohio. > > I think this migration took place before the Potato Famine of the late 1840’s, but I can’t put my hands on those records at this minute. > > So, if you have a Boyd family in Ohio -after 1800 or 1810 – it may mean that your family came from County Tyrone!! > > Is it worth starting a list of those Boyd families that came from County Tyrone, Ireland? > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008-2019) > 30/10/2019 > > -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM > To: Mike Boyd > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland > > Hi Mike & Group: > I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: > > Robert Boyd born 1810 Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone and died 1890 Howland Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio (Note: I was born in Trumbull Co Ohio) > He married Sarah Miller born 1823 Crubinagh Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone & died 1898 Champion Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio. > They married Sept 25 1846 Derry Gortrevy Church Clonfeacle. > They immigrated to the US arriving April 2 1849 New York City on ship New Zealand. > They had 6 children. The oldest appears to have been born before their marriage. > 1 Robert Boyd born 1846 Co Tyrone and died 1909 Trumbull Co Ohio. > (Note: I do have an autosomal DNA match to this line.) > 2 Eliza J Boyd born 1854 Philadelphia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio > 3. John Alexander Boyd born 1856 Philadephia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio > 4. Samuel Jackson Boyd born 1859 Trumbull Co Ohio & died 1930 Trumbull Co Ohio. (My great grandfather) > 5. James Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1924 Trumbull Co Ohio > 6. Mary S Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1942 Cleveland Cuyahoga Co Ohio (Twin to James above) > ***** > As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) > Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: > Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone > She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: > 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd > 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. > Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! > I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. > ********** > I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. > John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio > He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio > Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. > ******************** > Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. > A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. > ****** > So I continue to research….. > Linda Boyd Myers > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks for all the great information about the area & the Boyds Mike. It was helpful to see who the early Boyds in Ireland were & I added this info to my own files to help in my research. The John Boyd born 1801 that I am researching as a probable brother to my Robert Boyd, emigrated circe 1823. From past correspondence with a descendant of this line, he arrived first in Montreal Quebec Canada. By 1840 he is in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio. Per my correspondent, he was the 2nd son of Robert & Mary Miller Boyd. My direct ancestor ancestor Robert Boyd is also the son of a Robert & Mary Miller Boyd but didn’t arrive until 1849. Both of these men settled near each other in Trumbull Co Ohio. John Boyd is said to be from Crossley Co Tyrone but I haven’t found a Crossley as yet. It may, of course, be an error in spelling at some point. I need to try to find that place as time permits. It is certainly probably worth while to have a list of Boyds from Co Tyrone but I have no idea how to go about that! It seems like a daunting task. Thanks for all your information. It helps bring the areas & the people who lived there to life Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 02:11, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > The first known Boyd to settled in County Tyrone, Ireland was Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay, who was one of the 50 Undertakers. He was given either 1,000 or 1,500 acres of land at Sion Mills bounded by the River Finn, Mourne River and Derg River in 1609 in western County Tyrone. It is said that he took other Boyds with him to County Tyrone, but their names, have yet to be discovered. > > Across the Derg River, James Hamilton, first Earl of Abercorn, and his brother-in-law was also given land. I have not found out if any Boyd families settled on the Earl’s land either – but it is likely that happened. > > In 1613, Sir Thomas Boyd sold his land to James Hamilton and returned to Scotland with his wife and family. > > However, there seems to have been a second group of Boyds that settled in eastern County Tyrone in the Cookstown and Dungannon region. In 2019, these Boyds origins are not known to me, but could be part of those Boyds that settled on either side of the Bann River in both Counties Londonderry and Antrim or may even have come from Counties Down or Armagh. Nor do I know enough County Tyrone history to know whom were landowners in this area of County Tyrone, to see if they had any connections to Boyd families in Scotland, that may help to suggest which Shire in Scotland they came from to Ireland. > > There does not appear to be any 1700’s migration to Pennsylvania, as seems to be common out of County Antrim. But in the early 1800’s, I am aware of a number of Boyd families from County Tyrone coming to America and to Ohio. One of these families was Governor William Boyd of Iowa and another was the family of William Boyd, the movie actor’s family also came form County Tyrone to Ohio. > > I think this migration took place before the Potato Famine of the late 1840’s, but I can’t put my hands on those records at this minute. > > So, if you have a Boyd family in Ohio -after 1800 or 1810 – it may mean that your family came from County Tyrone!! > > Is it worth starting a list of those Boyd families that came from County Tyrone, Ireland? > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008-2019) > 30/10/2019 > > -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM > To: Mike Boyd > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland > > Hi Mike & Group: > I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: > > Robert Boyd born 1810 Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone and died 1890 Howland Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio (Note: I was born in Trumbull Co Ohio) > He married Sarah Miller born 1823 Crubinagh Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone & died 1898 Champion Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio. > They married Sept 25 1846 Derry Gortrevy Church Clonfeacle. > They immigrated to the US arriving April 2 1849 New York City on ship New Zealand. > They had 6 children. The oldest appears to have been born before their marriage. > 1 Robert Boyd born 1846 Co Tyrone and died 1909 Trumbull Co Ohio. > (Note: I do have an autosomal DNA match to this line.) > 2 Eliza J Boyd born 1854 Philadelphia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio > 3. John Alexander Boyd born 1856 Philadephia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio > 4. Samuel Jackson Boyd born 1859 Trumbull Co Ohio & died 1930 Trumbull Co Ohio. (My great grandfather) > 5. James Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1924 Trumbull Co Ohio > 6. Mary S Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1942 Cleveland Cuyahoga Co Ohio (Twin to James above) > ***** > As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) > Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: > Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone > She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: > 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd > 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. > Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! > I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. > ********** > I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. > John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio > He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio > Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. > ******************** > Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. > A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. > ****** > So I continue to research….. > Linda Boyd Myers > >

Linda and all In Ireland, when most people provide an location, it is an townland. However, the spelling of an townland in the 1800's may be a little different to that used in modern times. If you can't find it on the modern list of Townlands in Ireland, I would ask the Local Studies Library at Dungannon - I have not been to the Library there so I am assuming they have an Local Studies Library - or the Local Studies Library at the Irish Library in Armagh (town). I have visited that in 2010. One or the other, should be able to confirm if there is an Crossley (townland) - most likely in Clonfeacle Parish? This is your first task, so where these locations are in relation to the other data you hold on this family. In fact, I would make a list of all these County Tyrone locations to see how far they are from each other. Good hunting Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 9:21 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] My Boyds in Ireland Thanks for all the great information about the area & the Boyds Mike. It was helpful to see who the early Boyds in Ireland were & I added this info to my own files to help in my research. The John Boyd born 1801 that I am researching as a probable brother to my Robert Boyd, emigrated circe 1823. From past correspondence with a descendant of this line, he arrived first in Montreal Quebec Canada. By 1840 he is in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio. Per my correspondent, he was the 2nd son of Robert & Mary Miller Boyd. My direct ancestor ancestor Robert Boyd is also the son of a Robert & Mary Miller Boyd but didn’t arrive until 1849. Both of these men settled near each other in Trumbull Co Ohio. John Boyd is said to be from Crossley Co Tyrone but I haven’t found a Crossley as yet. It may, of course, be an error in spelling at some point. I need to try to find that place as time permits. It is certainly probably worth while to have a list of Boyds from Co Tyrone but I have no idea how to go about that! It seems like a daunting task. Thanks for all your information. It helps bring the areas & the people who lived there to life Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 02:11, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all >

Re place name Crossley related to Boyds in Co Tyrone. I have found what may be the correct place: Crossteely is a townland in the Barony of Dungannon Middle; Civil Parish of Clonfeacle & Poor Law Union of Dungannon. This certainly would place John Boyd born “Crossley”, probably Crossteely, who immigrated in 1823 & Robert Boyd born Clonfeacle, who immigrated in 1849 & lived near each other in Trumbull Co Ohio, a probable family connection in Co Tyrone. Thanks for all the suggestions Mike Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 31, 2019, at 20:33, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > In Ireland, when most people provide an location, it is an townland. However, the spelling of an townland in the 1800's may be a little different to that used in modern times. > > If you can't find it on the modern list of Townlands in Ireland, I would ask the Local Studies Library at Dungannon - I have not been to the Library there so I am assuming they have an Local Studies Library - or the Local Studies Library at the Irish Library in Armagh (town). I have visited that in 2010. > > One or the other, should be able to confirm if there is an Crossley (townland) - most likely in Clonfeacle Parish? > > This is your first task, so where these locations are in relation to the other data you hold on this family. > > In fact, I would make a list of all these County Tyrone locations to see how far they are from each other. > > Good hunting > > Mike Boyd >

Linda and all In the US records, you have found an John Boyd of Trumbull County, OHIO, said to have come from Crossley (townland), County Tyrone. In a marriage website for 1846, there appears to be three of the children of your Robert Boyd, born in 1786, who all got married at the Derrygortrevy Parish Church and said to have come from Kilnacart townland. The next townland adjoining it to the south is the townland of Crossteely Both of these appear to be located, south of Dungannon, between the B35 and B 45 Roads – between Greystone and Eglish. So, if “Crossteely” IS THE CORRECT SPELLING OF “CROSSLEY”, it may strongly suggest that this John Boyd and your Robert Boyd could be brothers. However, in this series of Emails you have said that John Boyd was born in 1801. This would make his father only 15 years old when he was born. So, if this John’s birth is correct, it may mean that John is not a brother but a cousin of your Robert Boyd born in 1810. Hopefully one of the Libraries in Ireland can advise if there were two separate Boyd families – one in each townland. From the date of birth and his arrival in Canada in 1823, it suggests to me that there were cousins and not brothers. Good hunting Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:52 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] My Boyds in Ireland - Crossley (townland), Coounty Tyrone Re place name Crossley related to Boyds in Co Tyrone. I have found what may be the correct place: Crossteely is a townland in the Barony of Dungannon Middle; Civil Parish of Clonfeacle & Poor Law Union of Dungannon. This certainly would place John Boyd born “Crossley”, probably Crossteely, who immigrated in 1823 & Robert Boyd born Clonfeacle, who immigrated in 1849 & lived near each other in Trumbull Co Ohio, a probable family connection in Co Tyrone. Thanks for all the suggestions Mike Linda Boyd Myers

Linda and others Boyds of Clonfeacle Parish, County Tyrone Clonfeacle Parish is SSE of Dungannon, County Tyrone, and is in part of County Tyrone and part in County Armagh. And it seems to include the towns – I assume villages – of Moy and Blackwatertown. I noticed just about 6 kms (or 4 miles) to the west of Blackwatertown is Benburb. That location, also sounds familiar for Boyd families, so some of the Boyds from there may have also migrated to Ohio in the 1800’s and be added to this mix of Boyd families from eastern County Tyrone. All these locations are on the Blackwater River, and I think that I have also seen that location posted I do not know, the origins of these Boyd families, but assume that they were all farmers or farm workers. And I would also assume that they were most likely Presbyterian in religion. I am aware, that in Lurgan – about 30 kms to the east in County Armagh – in 1707 a John Boyd married a Jane Bell in the Quaker Church, then moved to the Ballymoney area of County Antrim before 1735, when the family moved to Chester County, PA. I am also aware that an Archibald Boyd settled in Armagh (town) in 1618 as a farmer, which is only about 15 kms from Blackwatertown, so your Boyd family could have been in this area for another 150 or 170 years. In 2010, I visited the Irish Library – one of four Libraries in Armagh (town) – that dealt with family tree matters. That might be worth contacting to see it may be able to provide any more information on your Boyd family (and other Boyd families) form Clonfeacle Parish. Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008-2019) 31/10/2019 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland Hi Mike & Group: I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: Robert Boyd born 1810 Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone and died 1890 Howland Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio (Note: I was born in Trumbull Co Ohio) He married Sarah Miller born 1823 Crubinagh Clonfeacle Dungannon Co Tyrone & died 1898 Champion Twp. Trumbull Co Ohio. They married Sept 25 1846 Derry Gortrevy Church Clonfeacle. They immigrated to the US arriving April 2 1849 New York City on ship New Zealand. They had 6 children. The oldest appears to have been born before their marriage. 1 Robert Boyd born 1846 Co Tyrone and died 1909 Trumbull Co Ohio. (Note: I do have an autosomal DNA match to this line.) 2 Eliza J Boyd born 1854 Philadelphia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio 3. John Alexander Boyd born 1856 Philadephia PA and died 1934 Trumbull Co Ohio 4. Samuel Jackson Boyd born 1859 Trumbull Co Ohio & died 1930 Trumbull Co Ohio. (My great grandfather) 5. James Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1924 Trumbull Co Ohio 6. Mary S Boyd born 1864 Trumbull Co Ohio and died 1942 Cleveland Cuyahoga Co Ohio (Twin to James above) ***** So I continue to research….. Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:11, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: >

Linda and all Robert Boyd of Donaghmore, Co Tyrone This area is about 6 kms NW of Dungannon – in the opposite direction to Clonfeacle Parish - It seems quite “strange” or “unusual” that as he was born in County Tyrone, that he has died in Ballymena, County Antrim. Ballymena is an area of County Antrim that has quite a number of Boyd families going back into the 1600’s and with one family said to have settled to the NW of Ballymena in 1573. I am not sure what this may mean? “COULD” IT INDICATE that his family had come from Ballymena, one or two generation prior and he returned “home”? Or just for some reason he had moved there after 1830; or had he retired to Ballymena. It may also need to contact the Local Studies Section of the Ballymena Library to see if they have any account of his death in 1867, from one of the local Newspapers. Or to contact the Newspaper Library in Belfast, to see if they have an account of his death and why it occurred in Ballymena? I looked at the IGI for the UK in 1994, down to Margaret Boyd, and found five Boyd families for Donaghmore from 1778 to 1800 – with two Robert Boyd families – so these maybe brothers and cousins, that had lived in this area for some time. It is also interesting that you mentioned having an DNA connection to Boyds of Knockavaddy Co Tyrone. Knockavaddy is located about 15kms north of Donaghmore – between Cookstown and Pomeroy, on the west side of A29 road between Cookstown and Dungannon. This family starts with an Samuel Boyd born in 1718. I think about a decade or two ago, I saw where they “claimed” to be the younger brother of the three Boyd brothers that came in about 1720 to Boston, MA (and one brother got off the ship at Block Island, RI.) And that he was the son of a Captain James Boyd, said to be the son of William Boyd, first Earl of Kilmarnock. The only trouble with this is that the Earl’s son, James Boyd, had a funeral service at Paisley Abbey in May 1702 and was buried at Lenzie Kirk. The three brother’s father – said to be a Captain James Boyd – could come from one of the Boyd families that lived in Ireland. During the Siege of Londonderry in 1689-90, there were a number of Officers called Boyd and I think that one or two of those might have been “James Boyd” – but I can’t put my hands on that data at present. Or their father may be just a straight James Boyd, which is the second most common male Boyd name. And it seems in this period, if you had five sons in your family, at least one was called James Boyd. Hopefully others can connect to these various Boyds of Turnbull Co., Ohio that came from County Tyrone. And that we, the list, can build up more about Clan Boyd’s history in County Tyrone in the future. I will Thank you Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008- 2019) 31/10/2019 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland Hi Mike & Group: I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: ***** As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. ********** I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. ******************** Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. ****** So I continue to research….. Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:11, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: >

Thanks Mike for all the information you have covered. I, too, have pondered the Robert Boyd of Donaghmore dying in Ballymena & wondered if this is 2 different people or if he moved to be with family in his later years. I have found this to have happened in some of my US families-some, in fact, have moved to a different state to be with family. Always so many questions & so little material to help find the answer. I’d appreciate any feedback or comments on this possibility. Robert Boyd baptized March 8 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim. I also need to become more familiar with local maps as I work on this Boyd family. It looks to me as though Ireland Libraries require one to live in the area. I have not found a way to ask questions long distance as I am able to do via my hometown Library which has been very helpful with my Trumbull Co Ohio ancestors, which includes my Boyds. I have added the Knockavaddy Co Tyrone Boyds to my Tree after finding the Y-DNA connection. I started with Samuel Boyd born 1718 & have struggled with him because of all the info people have posted listing him as the son of Captain James Boyd & also the connections listed regarding the Boyds who went to the US. Mike do you have the source material for James Boyd died 1702 with a service at Paisley Abby? Is it thought that this is the father of Samuel Boyd born 1718? I have, as speculation only, given Samuel Boyd a brother that could then be my direct family line as Samuels line does not seem to match up with the lines for Samuel that have all ready been followed. Obviously speculation on my part but I needed to put the families together to try to find actual sources. I have that Samuel born 1718 had a son who died in Forsyth Co Georgia & I have an autosomal DNA link to Georgia Boyds I need to follow up with. I also get autosomal hits on NC Boyds as well. I am concerned as my Tree has speculative family ties on it but I see no other way to try to sort them out. Captain James Boyd & his sons are particularly interesting & headache inducing as I sure would like to find out how or if they connect to my Boyds Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 16:27, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > Robert Boyd of Donaghmore, Co Tyrone > > This area is about 6 kms NW of Dungannon – in the opposite direction to Clonfeacle Parish - > > It seems quite “strange” or “unusual” that as he was born in County Tyrone, that he has died in Ballymena, County Antrim. Ballymena is an area of County Antrim that has quite a number of Boyd families going back into the 1600’s and with one family said to have settled to the NW of Ballymena in 1573. I am not sure what this may mean? “COULD” IT INDICATE that his family had come from Ballymena, one or two generation prior and he returned “home”? Or just for some reason he had moved there after 1830; or had he retired to Ballymena. > > It may also need to contact the Local Studies Section of the Ballymena Library to see if they have any account of his death in 1867, from one of the local Newspapers. Or to contact the Newspaper Library in Belfast, to see if they have an account of his death and why it occurred in Ballymena? > > I looked at the IGI for the UK in 1994, down to Margaret Boyd, and found five Boyd families for Donaghmore from 1778 to 1800 – with two Robert Boyd families – so these maybe brothers and cousins, that had lived in this area for some time. > > It is also interesting that you mentioned having an DNA connection to Boyds of Knockavaddy Co Tyrone. Knockavaddy is located about 15kms north of Donaghmore – between Cookstown and Pomeroy, on the west side of A29 road between Cookstown and Dungannon. > > This family starts with an Samuel Boyd born in 1718. I think about a decade or two ago, I saw where they “claimed” to be the younger brother of the three Boyd brothers that came in about 1720 to Boston, MA (and one brother got off the ship at Block Island, RI.) And that he was the son of a Captain James Boyd, said to be the son of William Boyd, first Earl of Kilmarnock. The only trouble with this is that the Earl’s son, James Boyd, had a funeral service at Paisley Abbey in May 1702 and was buried at Lenzie Kirk. > > The three brother’s father – said to be a Captain James Boyd – could come from one of the Boyd families that lived in Ireland. During the Siege of Londonderry in 1689-90, there were a number of Officers called Boyd and I think that one or two of those might have been “James Boyd” – but I can’t put my hands on that data at present. Or their father may be just a straight James Boyd, which is the second most common male Boyd name. And it seems in this period, if you had five sons in your family, at least one was called James Boyd. > > Hopefully others can connect to these various Boyds of Turnbull Co., Ohio that came from County Tyrone. And that we, the list, can build up more about Clan Boyd’s history in County Tyrone in the future. > > I will > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008- 2019) > 31/10/2019 > > > -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 5:59 AM > To: Mike Boyd > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] Re: My Boyds in Ireland > > Hi Mike & Group: > I think I may have, many years ago, given you (Mike) my Boyd information but I have learned a bit more since so here is my current info for you & the list: > > ***** > As to my original immigrant ancestor Robert Boyd born 1810, I have his parents as Robert Boyd born 1786 Donaghmore Co Tyrone and died 1867 Ballymena Co Antrim who may have married a Mary Millar (Miller) > Per the genealogist at the Warren Trumbull Co Ohio Library: > Robert born 1810 may have had a brother James born about 1815 Dungannon Co Tyrone > She also found 2 females who married at the same church in the same time frame that she felt were worth looking at: > 1 Elizabeth Boyd born 1826 Dungannon Co Tyrone married John MacMullen May 19 1846; her father listed as Robert Boyd > 2 Sarah Boyd born 1828 Dungannon Co Tyrone who married William Miller Feb 6 1846; father Robert Boyd. > Of course, they could also be cousins or aunts! > I should try to find out if these possible sisters may have also come to the US or stayed in Ireland. > ********** > I am also looking at a John Boyd who may be a brother or an uncle of my ancestor. > John Boyd was born 1810 Crossley Co Tyrone & died 1882 Trumbull Co Ohio > He shows up in the 1840 US Census in Bazetta Twp Trumbull Co Ohio > Again the genealogist pointed this Boyd out to me as one I should look at more closely & I do have information on his line in Ohio as well. > ******************** > Before my father died I was able to test his Y DNA to 67 markers. He has a huge list of matches & 99% are for other Boyds. Most are quite distant but a few in the 1-3 range. > A few I’ve had time to look at take their line back to Kilmarnock. One of his matches has a solid Boyd line in Knockavaddy Co Tyrone, then back to Scotland. > ****** > So I continue to research….. > Linda Boyd Myers > > >> On Oct 25, 2019, at 16:11, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote:

On 5 November 2019, Linda Myers posted to the Clanboyd net list - “I, too, have pondered the Robert Boyd of Donaghmore dying in Ballymena & wondered if this is 2 different people or if he moved to be with family in his later years. I have found this to have happened in some of my US families-some, in fact, have moved to a different state to be with family. Always so many questions & so little material to help find the answer.” It is the last line that needs to be addressed. Very few of us, when we have questions about family tree write then down. For those of you that I have corresponded with or sent a family tree to, will have noticed at times that I have asked questions about different set of dates or perhaps someone having children at about 10 years old, etc I regard “QUESTIONS” as just as an important part as any data of dates and locations. And they should be included in “your tree” as a reminder to both yourself and anyone whom may pick up your work in the future, long after you are dead. It is from these questions, that will guide each of your in your own research in the future. So how and where in your tree should you put these questions. I would traditionally put then under the individual – U1? Robert Boyd, b / /1786 ( , Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone) [1], d / /1867 ( , Ballymena, County Antrim, Ierland), [2], bu , Ballymena (?), Co Antrim?, m / /180x (Church, town,Co tyrone, Ireland?), Mary Millar (Miller), dau of and (nee ) Millar, b / /178x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , Co., Antrim?, and issue:- [Lived: , Ireland or Scotland? ] - Details? [1] Place of birth given as Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone in Linda Myers Email of 28 Oct. 2019 (see CB18069Q.doc This is a villages about 6 kms NW of Dungannon, Co Tyrone. [2] See CB18069Q.doc – Why did he moved to Ballymena? Does this suggest that the family came from hear, one or two generations previously? Are the dates and location of where they married known? This will allow us to work out if Robert [V1?] is the first or later children. If he is the first child, it may also mean that his grandfather was most likely also called Robert Boyd. There is also an Donaghmore Parish, which takes in this village – so, is the location the Parish or the village? In this case I have put the sources of the data, but I have not listed my questions separately. So ‘SHOULD WE” under the “Details” about the person put a “key” word – “QUESTION” – to make it far easier to find these questions. In this case, I suspect that by next week, I am going to forget that this Robert Boyd is said to have died in Ballymena and not in County Tyrone. So, putting in a “KEYWORD” would allow us all to go through the document to look at the questions and know what data we need to look for? I only use Word Processing and I have no idea if the various IT tree programs will allow you to make a list of questions or queries? Any discussion? Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008 – 2019) 5/11/2019 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:11 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] My Boyds in Ireland Thanks Mike for all the information you have covered. I, too, have pondered the Robert Boyd of Donaghmore dying in Ballymena & wondered if this is 2 different people or if he moved to be with family in his later years. I have found this to have happened in some of my US families-some, in fact, have moved to a different state to be with family. Always so many questions & so little material to help find the answer. Linda Boyd Myers

Mike & all Your email made me go back to my genealogy program & look at ways to add questions, concerns, etc. I use i-family for Mac and have been quite happy with it. I tend to put everything in notes as it shows first below the basic dates information. I have found it recent years that I start having more & more questions. I have started writing my questions right at the top of this Note page so when I open that persons page, it shows up first & as I scroll through what I have, that question can be on my mind right from the start. I do see though that there is also a page for comments so I may think about using that section more as well. Always good to review our saved information and see if our programs have the ability to help us even more than we thought. Linda Boyd Myers > On Nov 4, 2019, at 15:26, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Always so many questions & so little material to help find the answer.” > > It is the last line that needs to be addressed. > > Very few of us, when we have questions about family tree write then down. > > For those of you that I have corresponded with or sent a family tree to, will have noticed at times that I have asked questions about different set of dates or perhaps someone having children at about 10 years old, etc > > I regard “QUESTIONS” as just as an important part as any data of dates and locations. And they should be included in “your tree” as a reminder to both yourself and anyone whom may pick up your work in the future, long after you are dead. > > It is from these questions, that will guide each of your in your own research in the future. > > So how and where in your tree should you put these questions. > > I would traditionally put then under the individual – > > U1? Robert Boyd, b / /1786 ( , Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone) [1], d / /1867 ( , Ballymena, County Antrim, Ierland), [2], bu , Ballymena (?), Co Antrim?, m / /180x (Church, town,Co tyrone, Ireland?), Mary Millar (Miller), dau of and (nee ) Millar, b / /178x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , Co., Antrim?, and issue:- > [Lived: , Ireland or Scotland? ] > > - Details? [1] Place of birth given as Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone in Linda Myers Email of 28 Oct. 2019 (see CB18069Q.doc This is a villages about 6 kms NW of Dungannon, Co Tyrone. [2] See CB18069Q.doc – Why did he moved to Ballymena? Does this suggest that the family came from hear, one or two generations previously? Are the dates and location of where they married known? This will allow us to work out if Robert [V1?] is the first or later children. If he is the first child, it may also mean that his grandfather was most likely also called Robert Boyd. There is also an Donaghmore Parish, which takes in this village – so, is the location the Parish or the village? > > In this case I have put the sources of the data, but I have not listed my questions separately. > > So ‘SHOULD WE” under the “Details” about the person put a “key” word – “QUESTION” – to make it far easier to find these questions. > > In this case, I suspect that by next week, I am going to forget that this Robert Boyd is said to have died in Ballymena and not in County Tyrone. So, putting in a “KEYWORD” would allow us all to go through the document to look at the questions and know what data we need to look for? > > I only use Word Processing and I have no idea if the various IT tree programs will allow you to make a list of questions or queries? > > Any discussion? > > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008 – 2019) > 5/11/2019 > > -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:11 AM > To: Mike Boyd > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] My Boyds in Ireland > > Thanks Mike for all the information you have covered. > I, too, have pondered the Robert Boyd of Donaghmore dying in Ballymena & wondered if this is 2 different people or if he moved to be with family in his later years. I have found this to have happened in some of my US families-some, in fact, have moved to a different state to be with family. > Always so many questions & so little material to help find the answer. > > Linda Boyd Myers >

On 5 November 2019, Linda Myers posted to the Clanboyd net list - “I also need to become more familiar with local maps as I work on this Boyd family.” For over two decades or so, I have been using “Michelin, Tourist and Motoring Altas, Great Britain & Ireland”. These days with an paper Atlas going out of fashion, they may be harder to find in your local book store. And ever since 2004, since I first started to visit Ireland and the UK, I have actually taken it with me to guide me around and to get some idea if Boyd families are close by or some distance away from each other. However, this Atlas does not show the townlands, but roads, villages and towns. And if it is likely that people on one side of a feature. For example, it is very unlikely that people living on the east side of Lough Neagh, would have anything to do with the people living on the west side, where as the people living on the east or west bank of the Bann River would have much more contact with each other. However, in Linda’s case, it may also be worth obtaining the 1: 50,000 Discoverer Series maps from the Ordnance Survey of Northern Ireland. For the Dungannon – Armagh area that Linda in looking at she would require Map 19 – which should cover the area just north of Dungannon, and the south at Derrygotrevy and to the SE for Clonfeacle Parish. However, if she wants to also look at the area of Knockavaddy, she would need to go to map 13 and perhaps map 14 On the maps that I have it says they can be obtained from “Land and Property Services” sells all OSNI maps and gives a website www.lpsni.gov.uk These maps have on the back the townlands – which is quite useful. I bought mine from a book shop during a visit and they cost me 6.99 pound each, I have no idea what it would cost to buy online and have them posted. I just went to the website, but I could not see where it tells about which map covers what area, so, you may need to ask, what maps cover your given area of concern, to ensure that you will not have to make a second purchase when you find that you need to look at the area just outside of your first map. Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008 – 2019) 5/11/2019 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:11 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] My Boyds in Ireland I also need to become more familiar with local maps as I work on this Boyd family. Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 16:27, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: >

Linda and all On 5 November 2019, Linda Myers posted to the Clanboyd net list - “I have added the Knockavaddy Co Tyrone Boyds to my Tree after finding the Y-DNA connection. I started with Samuel Boyd born 1718 & have struggled with him because of all the info people have posted listing him as the son of Captain James Boyd & also the connections listed regarding the Boyds who went to the US. Mike do you have the source material for James Boyd died 1702 with a service at Paisley Abby? Is it thought that this is the father of Samuel Boyd born 1718? I have, as speculation only, given Samuel Boyd a brother that could then be my direct family line as Samuels line does not seem to match up with the lines for Samuel that have all ready been followed. Obviously speculation on my part but I needed to put the families together to try to find actual sources. I have that Samuel born 1718 had a son who died in Forsyth Co Georgia & I have an autosomal DNA link to Georgia Boyds I need to follow up with. I also get autosomal hits on NC Boyds as well. I am concerned as my Tree has speculative family ties on it but I see no other way to try to sort them out. Captain James Boyd & his sons are particularly interesting & headache inducing as I sure would like to find out how or if they connect to my Boyds” For the children of William Boyd, first Earl of Kilmarnock, he had 9 children – 6 sons and 3 daughters. For some reason which seems to have started in the 1840’s, from a source that I have been searching for about 11 or 13 years, that I have yet to find – but it appears to be Burke’s Publication but not his Peerage – it make a mistake about his sons James and Robert Boyd having married and had children. I think that there are about 6 to 10, or more, books that make this claim of both of these sons. However, for both families these linkages have not yet been proven. It is thought that James, Robert, Charles and Alexander Boyd, were all, at some time, Captains in the Scots Dutch Brigade in Holland/Lowlands from 1692. In 2010, during a visit to the USA, I was told that then there Boyds living in Belgium. However, I do not know the origins of these Belgium Boyds or if any may have connections to one or more of these four brothers. In the case of James Boyd, I found Q4 James Boyd, b / /1669 , C 6/5/1669 (Dumbarton, Kirkintillock Parish, Dumbartonshire) , d 1702 (Scotland) or 1704 (Belgium - more likely the latter from his army dates), living 1692, bu , m? [Lived: ] - The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, ed Sir James Balfour Paul, Volume V, 1908, page 174 "He joined the Scots Dutch Brigade in the Low Countries before 1/9/1692." - A captain in Sir Charles Graham's Regiment of Foot in the Scots Dutch Brigade in 1692, however the war service cannot be traced with any certainty but they doubtless served with their regiments in some of William II's and Marlborough's Campaigns in Flanders. "Papers Illustrating the History of The Scots Brigade in Service of the United Netherlands (Holland) 1572-1782 extracted by permission from the Government Archives at The Hague, and edited by James Ferguson. Published in 3 Volumes, 1898, 1899, 1901 by the Scottish History Society at Edinburgh. Vol. II page 52 Capt. James Boyd 27 October 1701 on leave to Scotland to recruit (4 months). From the Memoirs of the Maxwell of Pollock, William Fraser, Vol II, 1863, pp 350-351 "William Third Earl of Kilmarnock to Sir John Maxwell of Pollok Lord Justice Clerk Paisley, May 8th, 1702. My Lord, the honor of your presence heir vpone Thursday nixt, the fourtheenth instant, at eight in the morning, to accompany the body of Mr James Boyd, my vncle, from the church of Paisley towards his buriall place, at the old church of Linzie, is humblie intreated by, My Lord, Your Lordship's most humble servant, [Signed Kilmarnock] To my Lord Justice Clark." It would appear that James died while he was on leave in Scotland. However, it is both strange that he is not referred to as Honourable - for being a Earl's son - or that he was a Captain in the Scots Brigade. From 1994 IGI for the UK James BOYD (M)...................... C: 6 May 1669 B: 17 Jun 1988 IFALL Ba: C114982 ^_- Father: William Earl Kilmarnock BOYD Kirkintilloch, Dunbarton, Scotland E: 9 Nov 1988 IFALL So: Mother: Jean CUNNINGHAM SP: 21 Dec 1988 IFALL While this letter to Sir John Maxwell of Pollok, Lord Justice Clerk, in 1702, refers to James Boyd, as the uncle of the third Earl of Kilmarnock, it does not call him Captain. So, I can’t 100% say they are the same person, as the Captain James Boyd, whom in October 1701, was in Scotland on leave but it does not say if he is the son of the First Earl. So, at this time we might be 70% or 80% sure that they are the same person but not 100% sure!! So given these limitations, but the expectation that they are the same person, this Captain James Boyd who was buried in May 1702, could not be the father of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy, County Tyrone. HOWEVER, this Samuel Boyd and the three brothers that came in about 1720 to Boston, MA (with one leaving the ship at Block Island, RI) “COULD” be the son of a “Captain James Boyd” from Ireland or the son just of an “James Boyd of Ireland”. As I said, a few days ago, Boyds had been in County Tyrone for some 110 years before this Samuel Boyd was born in 1718 and even longer in County Antrim. And with James Boyd, being the second most common male Boyd name, there are plenty of Boyd families in Ireland that would have a son James Boyd whom could be father of three or all four of these sons. Richard G. Boyd, who is the administrator of this list, is the descendant of one of the two brothers that landed at Boston, MA in about 1720. I am not sure if Richard has undertaken an DNA testing, so that you can compare. But if they do not compare, it will mean we will have two separate Boyd families – the three brothers born 1701, 1703 and 1705, -in one family - and Samuel Boyd born about 1718 – in a second family. With both families perhaps coming from County Tyrone. I am not very skilled on the DNA side of things, to know if your own Boyd family is a direct descendant of this Samuel Boyd, one of his brothers or a first or more distant cousin. I assume that Bob Boyd from the BOYD DNA Project (and perhaps others) can provide advice on that aspect. However, the DNA linkage may be for an earlier generation to this Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy, County Tyrone. At this time, and with the above limited information, at best you may be able to go back a further two generations to Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy, County Tyrone. But it is “extremely unlikely” that this Samuel Boyd has any “direct” links to the First Earl of Kilmarnock, William Boyd. However, he could go back a “few” more generations in Ireland that do make a link to one of the Lord Boyds. In the death notice of 1702, there is no mention of any wife or children. Although, some researchers have said that this Captain James Boyd married before 29/1/1694 (probably Netherlands, less likely Belgium), Louisa Johanna Graham. And I assume that this Louisa might be the daughter of Sir Charles Graham's whom commanded the Regiment of Foot that James Boyd was in. I think that I was told this about 30 or 35 years ago, but no source was given – just the statement. So, it is not known if he married and had children or just may have had children out of wedlock, or did not have any children at all. I am sorry to have shorten your family tree, but am sure that you will have a lovely time trying to find your Robert Boyd’s ancestors and if they or how they may connect to the known family of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy, County Tyrone. And when you do go to Ireland you will enjoy your visit. Mike Boyd Executive Board Member (2008 – 2019) 5/11/2019 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Myers Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:11 AM To: Mike Boyd Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CLANBOYD] My Boyds in Ireland I have added the Knockavaddy Co Tyrone Boyds to my Tree after finding the Y-DNA connection. I started with Samuel Boyd born 1718 & have struggled with him because of all the info people have posted listing him as the son of Captain James Boyd & also the connections listed regarding the Boyds who went to the US. Mike do you have the source material for James Boyd died 1702 with a service at Paisley Abby? Is it thought that this is the father of Samuel Boyd born 1718? I have, as speculation only, given Samuel Boyd a brother that could then be my direct family line as Samuels line does not seem to match up with the lines for Samuel that have all ready been followed. Obviously speculation on my part but I needed to put the families together to try to find actual sources. I have that Samuel born 1718 had a son who died in Forsyth Co Georgia & I have an autosomal DNA link to Georgia Boyds I need to follow up with. I also get autosomal hits on NC Boyds as well. I am concerned as my Tree has speculative family ties on it but I see no other way to try to sort them out. Captain James Boyd & his sons are particularly interesting & headache inducing as I sure would like to find out how or if they connect to my Boyds Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 16:27, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all

Who are you talking about Mike? "HOWEVER, this Samuel Boyd and the three brothers that came in about 1720 to Boston, MA (with one leaving the ship at Block Island, RI) “COULD” be the son of a “Captain James Boyd” from Ireland or the son just of an “James Boyd of Ireland”. I am not aware of Samuel and 3 brothers who came in 1720. There is a Samuel circa 1718 in Salem, but how is he connected to Linda? Richard Boyd (of Michigan) is not related to this Samuel, and in 20+ years of research I have only seen 2 women who claim a descendant from this Samuel's line (of Salem, Massachusetts). -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected]