My Dunlop (Scotland) tarten is blue & black, but I'm not sure why we care about tartens in 2005. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen McMillan" <diggingupbones@cfl.rr.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: RE: [Boyd] blue dye > Thanks, I thought that was strange that one would have been invented in the > US! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich [mailto:richboyd@speednetllc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:17 PM > To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > > There is no blue Boyd tartan. > > Rich > Clan Boyd Society > http://clanboyd.info > > Karen McMillan wrote: > > >The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several pieces in > >Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out different > >according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look different > so > >maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting the > >Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something in the > >US that had one made in blue? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM > >To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > > > >I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or jean, > >as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread if it > >was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi (India), > >and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with expensive > >dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris tweed > >e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they were > >earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know of. > >How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more muted > >and natural in color and tone. > > > > > >On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: > > > > > > > >>No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout > >>Muhammad in > >>Medina. > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > >>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. Ever > >>>read "The Red Tent"? > >>> > >>> > >>>On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than women...some > >>>>man in > >>>>the Middle East? > >>>> > >>>>Jan > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> > >>>>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM > >>>>Subject: [Boyd] blue dye > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. > >>>>> > >>>>>blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as male > >>>>>offspring > >>>>>were considered more valuable than female they got the blue > >>>>>blankets, > >>>>>clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were given to > >>>>>the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>girls. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Emalu > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>>>RING OF BOYDS > >>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>>> > >>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>>>trees > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>> > >>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>>trees > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>> > >>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>trees > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>trees > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > > > >==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >