Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy library to look up the Boyd tartans. Emalu At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: >The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several pieces in >Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out different >according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look different so >maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting the >Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something in the >US that had one made in blue? > >-----Original Message----- >From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM >To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > >I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or jean, >as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread if it >was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi (India), >and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with expensive >dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris tweed >e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they were >earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know of. >How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more muted >and natural in color and tone. > > >On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: > > > No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout > > Muhammad in > > Medina. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > > > > > >> It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. Ever > >> read "The Red Tent"? > >> > >> > >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: > >> > >>> LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than women...some > >>> man in > >>> the Middle East? > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> > >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM > >>> Subject: [Boyd] blue dye > >>> > >>> > >>>> Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. > >>>> > >>>> blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as male > >>>> offspring > >>>> were considered more valuable than female they got the blue > >>>> blankets, > >>>> clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were given to > >>>> the > >>> girls. > >>>> > >>>> Emalu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>> > >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>> trees > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>> > >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>> trees > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> trees > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > > > > >==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > >==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees

Well it's interesting that the St. Andrew's woolen warehouse had a book with the Boyd tartan in it and I have seen it in other books as well and it is clearly blue. On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Quint Hart wrote: > Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, > ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. > I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy > library to look up the Boyd tartans. > > Emalu > > > At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: >> The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several >> pieces in >> Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out >> different >> according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look >> different so >> maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting >> the >> Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something >> in the >> US that had one made in blue? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM >> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >> >> I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or jean, >> as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread if it >> was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi (India), >> and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with expensive >> dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris tweed >> e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they >> were >> earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know of. >> How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more muted >> and natural in color and tone. >> >> >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >> >> > No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout >> > Muhammad in >> > Medina. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >> > >> > >> >> It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. >> Ever >> >> read "The Red Tent"? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >> >> >> >>> LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than >> women...some >> >>> man in >> >>> the Middle East? >> >>> >> >>> Jan >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> >> >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM >> >>> Subject: [Boyd] blue dye >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. >> >>>> >> >>>> blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as male >> >>>> offspring >> >>>> were considered more valuable than female they got the blue >> >>>> blankets, >> >>>> clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were given >> to >> >>>> the >> >>> girls. >> >>>> >> >>>> Emalu >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>>> RING OF BOYDS >> >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>>> trees >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>> RING OF BOYDS >> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>> >> >>> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>> trees >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >> RING OF BOYDS >> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >> trees >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> > RING OF BOYDS >> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> > >> > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> > trees >> > >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >