Rich: How can I unsubscribe to this site so as to stop receiving all these emails? Seems like I subscribed to the Boyd website through you a few years ago. Let me know if you can help or know who can. thanks. Carole Boyd Cary, NC cboyd19@nc.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: [Boyd] Boyd Tartan > Joe, and others. > > I went to the site Joe gave www.tartans.scotland.net and both tartans > they show have a blue (more like a purple) > color in them. > > My Boyd kilt has no blue color at all. I also have a Boyd tartan hat, a > couple of Boyd Banners we use at the games, and a Boyd tartan tie and > none of these have any blue at all. I have been hosting and attending > games for only about > 18 years but all the Boyd tartan I have ever seen has no blue. > > The Boyd tartan which is on the House of Boyd Society web site has no > blue what so ever and is identical to mine. > > And you are correct when you say thread count is more important which I > beleive is what is referred to as a "sett". > > Best Regards > > Rich Boyd > Clan Boyd Society > > Joe Williams wrote: > > > When were you a child? > > If the tartan looked like Royal Stewart then it probably was Royal > > Stewart. A few years back Stewart tartan was available everywhere. > > My kilt took almost six months for delivery because the Boyd tartan > > had to be woven. It was not popular enough to keep on hand. > > Technically a tartan can be any color. The thread count is what has to > > be correct. > > The modern Boyd tartan is again, mainly red with some blue, green and > > yellow. > > > > If you want to see a picture go to > > > > www.tartans.scotland.net and type in Boyd. You will have two > > choices. The Boyd family tartan is the one Lord Kilmarnock designed. > > > > Joe Boyd Williams > > Cape Carancahua, Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > > > > > >> When I was a child my cousins and I had "Boyd" outfits that were much > >> like the Royal Stewart tartan. > >> It wasn't till I went to Scotland that I was sold the blue with > >> orange stripe "Boyd Sept" tartan. > >> > >> On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Karen McMillan wrote: > >> > >>> Did you see the one from Rich that said no blue tartans? I have a > >>> Tartan > >>> Book by Robert Bain called "The Clans and Tartans of Scotland" and it > >>> doesn't show a Boyd tartan at all, but when we were there they had > >>> them and > >>> it was red. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM > >>> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > >>> > >>> Well it's interesting that the St. Andrew's woolen warehouse had a book > >>> with the Boyd tartan in it and I have seen it in other books as well > >>> and it is clearly blue. > >>> > >>> On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Quint Hart wrote: > >>> > >>>> Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, > >>>> ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. > >>>> I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy > >>>> library to look up the Boyd tartans. > >>>> > >>>> Emalu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several > >>>>> pieces in > >>>>> Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out > >>>>> different > >>>>> according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look > >>>>> different so > >>>>> maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting > >>>>> the > >>>>> Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something > >>>>> in the > >>>>> US that had one made in blue? > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM > >>>>> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or jean, > >>>>> as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread > >>>>> if it > >>>>> was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi (India), > >>>>> and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with > >>>>> expensive > >>>>> dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris > >>>>> tweed > >>>>> e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they > >>>>> were > >>>>> earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know of. > >>>>> How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more > >>>>> muted > >>>>> and natural in color and tone. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout > >>>>>> Muhammad in > >>>>>> Medina. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > >>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Ever > >>>>> > >>>>>>> read "The Red Tent"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than > >>>>>>> > >>>>> women...some > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> man in > >>>>>>>> the Middle East? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jan > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>> From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> > >>>>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM > >>>>>>>> Subject: [Boyd] blue dye > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. 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