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    1. Re: [Boyd] Boyd Tartan
    2. Rich
    3. Carole, I can subscribe you to the List Digest. That way you get the days messages in ONE email. Or you can unsubscribe altogether by sending an email to ClanBoyd-L-Request@Rootsweb.com and type UNSUBSCRIBE in the email. Rich Carole Boyd wrote: >Rich: >How can I unsubscribe to this site so as to stop receiving all these emails? >Seems like I subscribed to the Boyd website through you a few years ago. >Let me know if you can help or know who can. thanks. >Carole Boyd >Cary, NC >cboyd19@nc.rr.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:16 PM >Subject: [Boyd] Boyd Tartan > > > > >>Joe, and others. >> >>I went to the site Joe gave www.tartans.scotland.net and both tartans >>they show have a blue (more like a purple) >>color in them. >> >>My Boyd kilt has no blue color at all. I also have a Boyd tartan hat, a >>couple of Boyd Banners we use at the games, and a Boyd tartan tie and >>none of these have any blue at all. I have been hosting and attending >>games for only about >>18 years but all the Boyd tartan I have ever seen has no blue. >> >>The Boyd tartan which is on the House of Boyd Society web site has no >>blue what so ever and is identical to mine. >> >>And you are correct when you say thread count is more important which I >>beleive is what is referred to as a "sett". >> >>Best Regards >> >>Rich Boyd >>Clan Boyd Society >> >>Joe Williams wrote: >> >> >> >>>When were you a child? >>>If the tartan looked like Royal Stewart then it probably was Royal >>>Stewart. A few years back Stewart tartan was available everywhere. >>>My kilt took almost six months for delivery because the Boyd tartan >>>had to be woven. It was not popular enough to keep on hand. >>>Technically a tartan can be any color. The thread count is what has to >>>be correct. >>>The modern Boyd tartan is again, mainly red with some blue, green and >>>yellow. >>> >>>If you want to see a picture go to >>> >>>www.tartans.scotland.net and type in Boyd. You will have two >>>choices. The Boyd family tartan is the one Lord Kilmarnock designed. >>> >>>Joe Boyd Williams >>>Cape Carancahua, Texas >>>----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:03 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>When I was a child my cousins and I had "Boyd" outfits that were much >>>>like the Royal Stewart tartan. >>>>It wasn't till I went to Scotland that I was sold the blue with >>>>orange stripe "Boyd Sept" tartan. >>>> >>>>On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Karen McMillan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Did you see the one from Rich that said no blue tartans? I have a >>>>>Tartan >>>>>Book by Robert Bain called "The Clans and Tartans of Scotland" and it >>>>>doesn't show a Boyd tartan at all, but when we were there they had >>>>>them and >>>>>it was red. >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM >>>>>To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>>>>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>> >>>>>Well it's interesting that the St. Andrew's woolen warehouse had a >>>>> >>>>> >book > > >>>>>with the Boyd tartan in it and I have seen it in other books as well >>>>>and it is clearly blue. >>>>> >>>>>On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Quint Hart wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, >>>>>>ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. >>>>>>I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy >>>>>>library to look up the Boyd tartans. >>>>>> >>>>>>Emalu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several >>>>>>>pieces in >>>>>>>Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out >>>>>>>different >>>>>>>according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look >>>>>>>different so >>>>>>>maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting >>>>>>>the >>>>>>>Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something >>>>>>>in the >>>>>>>US that had one made in blue? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM >>>>>>>To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >jean, > > >>>>>>>as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread >>>>>>>if it >>>>>>>was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >(India), > > >>>>>>>and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with >>>>>>>expensive >>>>>>>dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris >>>>>>>tweed >>>>>>>e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they >>>>>>>were >>>>>>>earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >of. > > >>>>>>>How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more >>>>>>>muted >>>>>>>and natural in color and tone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout >>>>>>>>Muhammad in >>>>>>>>Medina. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>>>>>>>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ever >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>read "The Red Tent"? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>women...some >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>man in >>>>>>>>>>the Middle East? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Jan >>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> >>>>>>>>>>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as male >>>>>>>>>>>offspring >>>>>>>>>>>were considered more valuable than female they got the blue >>>>>>>>>>>blankets, >>>>>>>>>>>clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were given >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>girls. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Emalu >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>trees >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>trees >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > >>>>>>>>>trees >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>>trees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > >>>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>trees >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > >>>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>trees >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>trees >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>trees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>trees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >>>> >>>> >>> >>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >> >> >> > > >==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > >

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