When were you a child? If the tartan looked like Royal Stewart then it probably was Royal Stewart. A few years back Stewart tartan was available everywhere. My kilt took almost six months for delivery because the Boyd tartan had to be woven. It was not popular enough to keep on hand. Technically a tartan can be any color. The thread count is what has to be correct. The modern Boyd tartan is again, mainly red with some blue, green and yellow. If you want to see a picture go to www.tartans.scotland.net and type in Boyd. You will have two choices. The Boyd family tartan is the one Lord Kilmarnock designed. Joe Boyd Williams Cape Carancahua, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > When I was a child my cousins and I had "Boyd" outfits that were much > like the Royal Stewart tartan. > It wasn't till I went to Scotland that I was sold the blue with orange > stripe "Boyd Sept" tartan. > > On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Karen McMillan wrote: > >> Did you see the one from Rich that said no blue tartans? I have a >> Tartan >> Book by Robert Bain called "The Clans and Tartans of Scotland" and it >> doesn't show a Boyd tartan at all, but when we were there they had them >> and >> it was red. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM >> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >> >> Well it's interesting that the St. Andrew's woolen warehouse had a book >> with the Boyd tartan in it and I have seen it in other books as well >> and it is clearly blue. >> >> On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Quint Hart wrote: >> >>> Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, >>> ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. >>> I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy >>> library to look up the Boyd tartans. >>> >>> Emalu >>> >>> >>> At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: >>>> The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several >>>> pieces in >>>> Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out >>>> different >>>> according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look >>>> different so >>>> maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting >>>> the >>>> Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something >>>> in the >>>> US that had one made in blue? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM >>>> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>> >>>> I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or jean, >>>> as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread if it >>>> was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi (India), >>>> and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with expensive >>>> dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris tweed >>>> e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they >>>> were >>>> earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know of. >>>> How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more muted >>>> and natural in color and tone. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout >>>>> Muhammad in >>>>> Medina. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. >>>> Ever >>>>>> read "The Red Tent"? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than >>>> women...some >>>>>>> man in >>>>>>> the Middle East? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> >>>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as male >>>>>>>> offspring >>>>>>>> were considered more valuable than female they got the blue >>>>>>>> blankets, >>>>>>>> clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were given >>>> to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>> girls. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Emalu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>> trees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>> trees >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>> trees >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> trees >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>> trees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>> trees >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- trees >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- trees >> > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >

I remember my Dad saying the Boyds wore the Stewart, either hunting or dress because they were a part of the Stewart clan. Someone at the Highland Games Boyd tent at Grandfather's Mt. told me the same. As to when I was a child! too long ago to count. But it was in 1976 that I bought the so-called Boyd tartan at St. Andrews. On Aug 16, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Joe Williams wrote: > When were you a child? > If the tartan looked like Royal Stewart then it probably was Royal > Stewart. A few years back Stewart tartan was available everywhere. > My kilt took almost six months for delivery because the Boyd tartan > had to be woven. It was not popular enough to keep on hand. > Technically a tartan can be any color. The thread count is what has to > be correct. > The modern Boyd tartan is again, mainly red with some blue, green and > yellow. > > If you want to see a picture go to > > www.tartans.scotland.net and type in Boyd. You will have two > choices. The Boyd family tartan is the one Lord Kilmarnock designed. > > Joe Boyd Williams > Cape Carancahua, Texas > ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > > >> When I was a child my cousins and I had "Boyd" outfits that were much >> like the Royal Stewart tartan. >> It wasn't till I went to Scotland that I was sold the blue with >> orange stripe "Boyd Sept" tartan. >> >> On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Karen McMillan wrote: >> >>> Did you see the one from Rich that said no blue tartans? I have a >>> Tartan >>> Book by Robert Bain called "The Clans and Tartans of Scotland" and >>> it >>> doesn't show a Boyd tartan at all, but when we were there they had >>> them and >>> it was red. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM >>> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>> >>> Well it's interesting that the St. Andrew's woolen warehouse had a >>> book >>> with the Boyd tartan in it and I have seen it in other books as well >>> and it is clearly blue. >>> >>> On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Quint Hart wrote: >>> >>>> Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, >>>> ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. >>>> I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy >>>> library to look up the Boyd tartans. >>>> >>>> Emalu >>>> >>>> >>>> At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: >>>>> The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several >>>>> pieces in >>>>> Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out >>>>> different >>>>> according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look >>>>> different so >>>>> maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. >>>>> Interesting >>>>> the >>>>> Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or >>>>> something >>>>> in the >>>>> US that had one made in blue? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM >>>>> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>> >>>>> I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or >>>>> jean, >>>>> as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread >>>>> if it >>>>> was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi >>>>> (India), >>>>> and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with >>>>> expensive >>>>> dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris >>>>> tweed >>>>> e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they >>>>> were >>>>> earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know >>>>> of. >>>>> How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more >>>>> muted >>>>> and natural in color and tone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout >>>>>> Muhammad in >>>>>> Medina. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. >>>>> Ever >>>>>>> read "The Red Tent"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than >>>>> women...some >>>>>>>> man in >>>>>>>> the Middle East? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> >>>>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as >>>>>>>>> male >>>>>>>>> offspring >>>>>>>>> were considered more valuable than female they got the blue >>>>>>>>> blankets, >>>>>>>>> clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were >>>>>>>>> given >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> girls. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Emalu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>>> trees >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>> trees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? >>>>>>> db=boyd- >>>>>>> trees >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? >>>>>> db=boyd- >>>>>> trees >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> trees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> trees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>> trees >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

Explain what you mean when you say it doesn't matter what the color is as long as the thread count is correct. Do you mean the spacing between the colors?

Joe, and others. I went to the site Joe gave www.tartans.scotland.net and both tartans they show have a blue (more like a purple) color in them. My Boyd kilt has no blue color at all. I also have a Boyd tartan hat, a couple of Boyd Banners we use at the games, and a Boyd tartan tie and none of these have any blue at all. I have been hosting and attending games for only about 18 years but all the Boyd tartan I have ever seen has no blue. The Boyd tartan which is on the House of Boyd Society web site has no blue what so ever and is identical to mine. And you are correct when you say thread count is more important which I beleive is what is referred to as a "sett". Best Regards Rich Boyd Clan Boyd Society Joe Williams wrote: > When were you a child? > If the tartan looked like Royal Stewart then it probably was Royal > Stewart. A few years back Stewart tartan was available everywhere. > My kilt took almost six months for delivery because the Boyd tartan > had to be woven. It was not popular enough to keep on hand. > Technically a tartan can be any color. The thread count is what has to > be correct. > The modern Boyd tartan is again, mainly red with some blue, green and > yellow. > > If you want to see a picture go to > > www.tartans.scotland.net and type in Boyd. You will have two > choices. The Boyd family tartan is the one Lord Kilmarnock designed. > > Joe Boyd Williams > Cape Carancahua, Texas > ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye > > >> When I was a child my cousins and I had "Boyd" outfits that were much >> like the Royal Stewart tartan. >> It wasn't till I went to Scotland that I was sold the blue with >> orange stripe "Boyd Sept" tartan. >> >> On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Karen McMillan wrote: >> >>> Did you see the one from Rich that said no blue tartans? I have a >>> Tartan >>> Book by Robert Bain called "The Clans and Tartans of Scotland" and it >>> doesn't show a Boyd tartan at all, but when we were there they had >>> them and >>> it was red. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM >>> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>> >>> Well it's interesting that the St. Andrew's woolen warehouse had a book >>> with the Boyd tartan in it and I have seen it in other books as well >>> and it is clearly blue. >>> >>> On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Quint Hart wrote: >>> >>>> Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, >>>> ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. >>>> I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy >>>> library to look up the Boyd tartans. >>>> >>>> Emalu >>>> >>>> >>>> At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several >>>>> pieces in >>>>> Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out >>>>> different >>>>> according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look >>>>> different so >>>>> maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting >>>>> the >>>>> Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something >>>>> in the >>>>> US that had one made in blue? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM >>>>> To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>> >>>>> I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or jean, >>>>> as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread >>>>> if it >>>>> was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi (India), >>>>> and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with >>>>> expensive >>>>> dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris >>>>> tweed >>>>> e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they >>>>> were >>>>> earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know of. >>>>> How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more >>>>> muted >>>>> and natural in color and tone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout >>>>>> Muhammad in >>>>>> Medina. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. >>>>>> >>>>> Ever >>>>> >>>>>>> read "The Red Tent"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than >>>>>>> >>>>> women...some >>>>> >>>>>>>> man in >>>>>>>> the Middle East? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> >>>>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as male >>>>>>>>> offspring >>>>>>>>> were considered more valuable than female they got the blue >>>>>>>>> blankets, >>>>>>>>> clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were given >>>>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> girls. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Emalu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> >>>>>>>>> trees >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>> >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> >>>>>>>> trees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>> >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>> trees >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>> >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>> trees >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> trees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> trees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>> trees >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

Well, I guess I'll have to take a picture of my skirt and someone may be able to tell me what they sold me! It sure is blue with an orange and cream stripe but now I'm having an identity crisis.

There is an ANCIENT Boyd tartan - it might be in that. Regards Linda >From: Rich <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >Reply-To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Boyd] Boyd Tartan >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:16:21 -0400 > >Joe, and others. > >I went to the site Joe gave www.tartans.scotland.net and both tartans they >show have a blue (more like a purple) >color in them. > >My Boyd kilt has no blue color at all. I also have a Boyd tartan hat, a >couple of Boyd Banners we use at the games, and a Boyd tartan tie and none >of these have any blue at all. I have been hosting and attending games for >only about >18 years but all the Boyd tartan I have ever seen has no blue. > >The Boyd tartan which is on the House of Boyd Society web site has no blue >what so ever and is identical to mine. > >And you are correct when you say thread count is more important which I >beleive is what is referred to as a "sett". > >Best Regards > >Rich Boyd >Clan Boyd Society > >Joe Williams wrote: > >>When were you a child? >>If the tartan looked like Royal Stewart then it probably was Royal >>Stewart. A few years back Stewart tartan was available everywhere. >>My kilt took almost six months for delivery because the Boyd tartan had to >>be woven. It was not popular enough to keep on hand. >>Technically a tartan can be any color. The thread count is what has to be >>correct. >>The modern Boyd tartan is again, mainly red with some blue, green and >>yellow. >> >>If you want to see a picture go to >> >>www.tartans.scotland.net and type in Boyd. You will have two >>choices. The Boyd family tartan is the one Lord Kilmarnock designed. >> >>Joe Boyd Williams >>Cape Carancahua, Texas >>----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:03 PM >>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >> >> >>>When I was a child my cousins and I had "Boyd" outfits that were much >>>like the Royal Stewart tartan. >>>It wasn't till I went to Scotland that I was sold the blue with orange >>>stripe "Boyd Sept" tartan. >>> >>>On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Karen McMillan wrote: >>> >>>>Did you see the one from Rich that said no blue tartans? I have a >>>>Tartan >>>>Book by Robert Bain called "The Clans and Tartans of Scotland" and it >>>>doesn't show a Boyd tartan at all, but when we were there they had them >>>>and >>>>it was red. >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:38 PM >>>>To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>>>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>> >>>>Well it's interesting that the St. Andrew's woolen warehouse had a book >>>>with the Boyd tartan in it and I have seen it in other books as well >>>>and it is clearly blue. >>>> >>>>On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Quint Hart wrote: >>>> >>>>>Remember most Clans have at least 2 different Tartans. Dress, >>>>>ancient, battle. They can be different colors usually. >>>>>I'll try to get time Thursday while I'm working at the genealogy >>>>>library to look up the Boyd tartans. >>>>> >>>>>Emalu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>At 12:59 PM 8/16/05 -0400, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>The early Tartans were made from Plant dyes. We bought several >>>>>>pieces in >>>>>>Scotland - all the same Clan (not Boyd) and the colors turned out >>>>>>different >>>>>>according to what material they were on. The ones on wool look >>>>>>different so >>>>>>maybe the ones made from flax also came out different. Interesting >>>>>>the >>>>>>Boyd tartan being red. Isn't there also a Boyd society or something >>>>>>in the >>>>>>US that had one made in blue? >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:28 AM >>>>>>To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't understand why the work clothes cloth, a tough denim or jean, >>>>>>as it was known even in the 1700s, was woven out of blue thread if >>>>>>it >>>>>>was so precious. In many cultures, homespun(American), khadi (India), >>>>>>and others were either not dyed at all or certainly not with >>>>>>expensive >>>>>>dyes. Scotland has a long history of weaving (Paisley and Harris >>>>>>tweed >>>>>>e.g.) so it must also have dyes. If it's like other cultures, they >>>>>>were >>>>>>earth natural dyes. There aren't' many blues in those that I know of. >>>>>>How about the tartan colors? The really early ones are much more >>>>>>muted >>>>>>and natural in color and tone. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>No, but I've traveled the Middle East, and I've read a lot obout >>>>>>>Muhammad in >>>>>>>Medina. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>>>>>>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 PM >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It appears to have been a quaint Judeo Christian Muslim concept. >>>>>>> >>>>>>Ever >>>>>> >>>>>>>>read "The Red Tent"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:06 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>LOL - who came up with the idea that men are better than >>>>>>>> >>>>>>women...some >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>man in >>>>>>>>>the Middle East? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Jan >>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>From: "Quint Hart" <qhart@plmw.com> >>>>>>>>>To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM >>>>>>>>>Subject: [Boyd] blue dye >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Guess I'll jump in on the blue color. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>blue was harder to obtain and more expensive. So ----- as male >>>>>>>>>>offspring >>>>>>>>>>were considered more valuable than female they got the blue >>>>>>>>>>blankets, >>>>>>>>>>clothes, etc, while the easier, cheaper pink colors were given >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>to >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>girls. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Emalu >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>trees >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>trees >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>> >>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>>trees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>RING OF BOYDS >>>>>> >>>>>>http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>>trees >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>trees >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>>trees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>>trees >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>trees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>trees >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >>> >>> >> >> >> >>==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >> >> >> > > >==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Over 80,000 jobs across all industries at Australia's #1 job site. http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail