Hi, Back in 2003 I posted a query to this list asking for help in discovering information relative to John P. BOYD, the father of my grandfather's first wife. In response, Karen provided some very helpful information. (Her response is below.) I have been a little slow in following up and checking out the information but have done so and now return with more data and more questions. I have received from NARA a copy of the widow's pension file for Francis E. (Sharp) BOYD which states she married John P. BOYD on 5 Mar 1871 in the town of Due West, Abbeville Co., SC. The application further states that John P. BOYD enlisted in Co "H" of the 1st Regiment of Pennsylvania Cavalry Volunteers on 15 Jan 1863 and was discharged 20 Aug 1865 and died 1 Apr 1902. I found John P. BOYD and his family on the 1880 census of Abbeville, Co., SC. He states that his age is 37 and that he was born in PA, his father was born in PA and his mother was born in MD. The widow's pension application was rejected because the name John P. BOYD could not be found on the muster rolls of the 1st PA Cav. Some of the forms have his name as John P. BOYD or STEWARD. I have no explanation for the dual surnames. The information which Karen provided from the Pension Index gives his rank as Lt. while the file says he was a Private. Karen says he appeared on the index to the 1890 veterans schedule. Heritage Quest has no 1890 census records for SC and my local library tells me that the 1890 veterans schedule for SC does not survive. Apparently only the index has survived. I have located John P. Boyd on the 1880 and 1900 Federal Census for Abbeville Co., SC. He gave age as 37 in 1880 and a birth date of May 1845 in 1900. Using the Heritage Quest search function, I have not been able to find this John P. Boyd/Steward on any census before 1880. I would expect him to be in PA in 1850 & 1860. He could be anywhere in 1870. The pension app. doesn't state where he enlisted 'or where he was mustered out. Searches of the on-line Soldiers and Sailors system under both Boyd and Steward have failed to turn up anyone who is likely to be this person. Can anyone tell me if it is true that there exists an 1890 US veterans census index for SC but no census detail? If it is true that the Civil War Pension Index says that John P. Boyd's rank was Lt. then perhaps there is an additional file somewhere which NARA did not send to me. Thanks in advance for any additional help. Dennis Smith > -----Original Message----- > From: bschode [mailto:bschode@neo.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:57 PM > To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ClanBoyd] Re: John P. Boyd - PA to SC - 1800s > > > Hi Dennis, > > > You may want to check the SC 1890 Veterans Schedule...as the following > is listed in the Index for that Schedule....perhaps this is your John P. > Boyd...and perhaps the Schedule will give you additional information: > > Census: > BOYD, JOHN P. > State: SC 1890 Veterans Schedule > County: Abbeville County > Township: Diamond Hill Township > ................................. > > The following is listed in the "Civil War Pension Index": > John P. Boyd > Lt. 1st PA Cav. > State Filed: South Carolina > Widow: Francis E. Boyd > Application No: 775609 > Date filed: 1902 Dec 30 > > > You may want to try to obtain his "Compiled Service Record" from NARA as > many service records contain much personal and family information > concerning a soldier and also the pension record (above) which may also > be helpful to you as many times they also contain much personal and > family information. Note: When requesting these records always request > the *complete/entire* records so that you receive all of the information > regarding a particular soldier. > > See the following NARA page for a complete explanation of the above > records, and information about obtaining both the Compiled Military > Service Record and Pension Record: > > Civil War Records > http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/military/civil_war _records.html#cmsr Obtaining the above records should provide you with an exact death date so you may also be able to locate a death certificate, obituary, and possibly a cemetery record. Since you know what year John P. Boyd's first child was born(1870) there is a very good chance that John P. Boyd and Frances E. Sharp were married in 1869 or 1870 so you may want to search for their marriage record....the following URL will give you information concerning SC vital records. You may also want to check to see if the Abbeville County Genealogical Society has any information about your John P. Boyd family. The SC GenWeb web site should have the contact information. See:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ Hope something in the above is helpful to you :-) Kind Regards, Karen from Ohio, USA -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 7/27/2005

The problem with the civil war pension program, is that the Gov't didn't have a good list of the troops to begin with. Then afterward, the men made their claims, and had to prove where they fought. The civil war records & Revolutionary war records are spotty. My gr.grandfather in Texas, for example, fought in Arkansas. There is not one record of him being in the civil war...just his memoirs (which are great)...he talked about their food, and how he gave a Yank a drink of water, etc. But he did get a small pension from Texas, for being a Texas Ranger. It seems everyone rushed in to claim a pension from the Gov't. The same thing happened after the Rev. War....pensions & free land in KY, etc. JanC ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. D. Smith" <hdennissmith@earthlink.net> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: [Boyd] John P. Boyd - PA to SC - 1800s > Hi, > > Back in 2003 I posted a query to this list asking for help in discovering > information relative to John P. BOYD, the father of my grandfather's first > wife. In response, Karen provided some very helpful information. (Her > response is below.) I have been a little slow in following up and checking > out the information but have done so and now return with more data and more > questions. > > I have received from NARA a copy of the widow's pension file for Francis E. > (Sharp) BOYD which states she married John P. BOYD on 5 Mar 1871 in the town > of Due West, Abbeville Co., SC. > > The application further states that John P. BOYD enlisted in Co "H" of the > 1st Regiment of Pennsylvania Cavalry Volunteers on 15 Jan 1863 and was > discharged 20 Aug 1865 and died 1 Apr 1902. > > I found John P. BOYD and his family on the 1880 census of Abbeville, Co., > SC. He states that his age is 37 and that he was born in PA, his father was > born in PA and his mother was born in MD. > > The widow's pension application was rejected because the name John P. BOYD > could not be found on the muster rolls of the 1st PA Cav. > > Some of the forms have his name as John P. BOYD or STEWARD. I have no > explanation for the dual surnames. > > > The information which Karen provided from the Pension Index gives his rank > as Lt. while the file says he was a Private. > > Karen says he appeared on the index to the 1890 veterans schedule. Heritage > Quest has no 1890 census records for SC and my local library tells me that > the 1890 veterans schedule for SC does not survive. Apparently only the > index has survived. > > I have located John P. Boyd on the 1880 and 1900 Federal Census for > Abbeville Co., SC. He gave age as 37 in 1880 and a birth date of May 1845 > in 1900. > > Using the Heritage Quest search function, I have not been able to find this > John P. Boyd/Steward on any census before 1880. I would expect him to be in > PA in 1850 & 1860. He could be anywhere in 1870. The pension app. doesn't > state where he enlisted 'or where he was mustered out. > > Searches of the on-line Soldiers and Sailors system under both Boyd and > Steward have failed to turn up anyone who is likely to be this person. > > Can anyone tell me if it is true that there exists an 1890 US veterans > census index for SC but no census detail? > > If it is true that the Civil War Pension Index says that John P. Boyd's rank > was Lt. then perhaps there is an additional file somewhere which NARA did > not send to me. > > Thanks in advance for any additional help. > > Dennis Smith > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bschode [mailto:bschode@neo.rr.com] > > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 12:57 PM > > To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ClanBoyd] Re: John P. Boyd - PA to SC - 1800s > > > > > > Hi Dennis, > > > > > > You may want to check the SC 1890 Veterans Schedule...as the following > > is listed in the Index for that Schedule....perhaps this is your John P. > > Boyd...and perhaps the Schedule will give you additional information: > > > > Census: > > BOYD, JOHN P. > > State: SC 1890 Veterans Schedule > > County: Abbeville County > > Township: Diamond Hill Township > > ................................. > > > > The following is listed in the "Civil War Pension Index": > > John P. Boyd > > Lt. 1st PA Cav. > > State Filed: South Carolina > > Widow: Francis E. Boyd > > Application No: 775609 > > Date filed: 1902 Dec 30 > > > > > > You may want to try to obtain his "Compiled Service Record" from NARA as > > many service records contain much personal and family information > > concerning a soldier and also the pension record (above) which may also > > be helpful to you as many times they also contain much personal and > > family information. Note: When requesting these records always request > > the *complete/entire* records so that you receive all of the information > > regarding a particular soldier. > > > > See the following NARA page for a complete explanation of the above > > records, and information about obtaining both the Compiled Military > > Service Record and Pension Record: > > > > Civil War Records > > http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/military/civil_war > _records.html#cmsr > > Obtaining the above records should provide you with an exact death date > so you may also be able to locate a death certificate, obituary, and > possibly a cemetery record. > > > Since you know what year John P. Boyd's first child was born(1870) there > is a very good chance that John P. Boyd and Frances E. Sharp were > married in 1869 or 1870 so you may want to search for their marriage > record....the following URL will give you information concerning SC > vital records. You may also want to check to see if the Abbeville County > Genealogical Society has any information about your John P. Boyd family. > The SC GenWeb web site should have the contact information. > See:http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > Hope something in the above is helpful to you :-) > > Kind Regards, > Karen from Ohio, USA > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 7/27/2005 > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >