It seems their mentality was limited back then...probably because they had lived in feudal Europe. They could barely think to name their kids anything other than the usual names....Alexander, John, William, Samuel, and the daughters were named Elizabeth... ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > Unfortunately there were a ton of Alexanders, Johns and Williams and a > good many Andrews. Maryland must have been a goodo place for them. > Anna Grace > > On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:03 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > > > I descend from Alexander Boyd b. circa 1712 d.1780 (in Maryland) > > Francis b. 1747 d.1797, > > Hugh b. 1767 d. 1811, > > James b. 1791 d.1872 (in Ohio), > > John b. 1825 d.1901, > > Sarah b. 1859 d.1926 > > > > Alexander had a brother Francis, that he named in his will. There may > > have > > been a brother Hugh in Chester Co. PA, as well. > > Jane in Ohio > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > > > > >> What line of Boyds in Maryland are you from? Mine were from Frederick, > >> not far away, out of Andrew and David > >> Anna Grace Boyd Foster > >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > >> > >>> James, > >>> What Ohio Boyd's are you looking for? I am an Ohio Boyd with roots > >>> in > >>> Cecil > >>> Co. Md. > >>> Jane in Ohio > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "James & Carolyn Boyd" <jcbyd@cvtv.net> > >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:41 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >>> > >>> > >>>> How do I get off the mailing list. The site is good but deals most > >>>> with > >>>> east coast boyds not ohio boyds. jcbyd@cvtv.net > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > >>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:29 PM > >>>> Subject: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Below shows some reasons why Boyds and other Scots left Scotland > >>>>> and > >>>>> Ireland. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Petition of Ulstermen, 1718 > >>>>> > >>>>> In the beginning of the seventeenth-century, when James VI of > >>>>> Scotland became James I of England, (1603) a concerted effort was > >>>>> made > >>>>> to settle the province of Ulster in N. Ireland with Scots. King > >>>>> James thought of this as one way to cure the "Irish problem". > >>>>> > >>>>> Most of the large estates from this time have long since > >>>>> passed > >>>>> into other hands. Some of the Undertakers (a man who undertook to > >>>>> plant > >>>>> the land with settlers) did not adhere to the conditions of the > >>>>> grants and, therefore, lost their estates. Others sold the land > >>>>> once > >>>>> they had obtained title. Many more estates were created by > >>>>> land > >>>>> grants between 1641 and 1703, after the 1641 rebellion. The > >>>>> Scottish > >>>>> Undertakers as part of their land grants undertook to plant the > >>>>> land > >>>>> with settlers (or undertenants) whom they brought over from > >>>>> Scotland. It was mainly these tennants who became the > >>>>> ancestors > >>>>> of the ethic group known today as Scotch-Irish, a term virtually > >>>>> unknown in Ireland where they are known as Ulster-Scots. > >>>>> > >>>>> Very little documentation survives on the Undertenants, but the > >>>>> Undertakers are a different story. It must be remembered that, in > >>>>> those times land was considered more valuable than people. Because > >>>>> large tracts of land are involved there is far more information > >>>>> on > >>>>> the > >>>>> Undertakers. As the undertenants were brought to Ireland by the > >>>>> Undertakers it is obvious that many of them came from the same area > >>>>> in > >>>>> Scotland and were his near relatives. One such undertaker was: > >>>>> > >>>>> Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay: second son of the sixth Lord Boyd of > >>>>> Kilmarnock, Scotland. He married Grizel Cunningham, the daughter > >>>>> of > >>>>> Alexander Cunningham on 22 October 1603. Ulster patent dated 29 > >>>>> August 1610: Shean 1,500 acres, Strabane Barony, County Tyrone. > >>>>> > >>>>> Marion, the sister of Thomas Boyd, married James Hamilton, Earl > >>>>> of > >>>>> Abercorn and eventually acquired Sir Thomas Boyd's estate. It can > >>>>> be > >>>>> assumed that Thomas Boyd brought over many settlers by the name > >>>>> of > >>>>> Boyd since the surname is quite common in Northern Ireland. > >>>>> Many > >>>>> of > >>>>> the Boyd's in America are descended from these Ulster-Scots but > >>>>> tracing them down is another thing altogether. Many records have > >>>>> been > >>>>> destroyed during the centuries of civil strife in the country. > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> -- > >>>>> --- > >>>>> > >>>>> *The Petition of Ulstermen* > >>>>> > >>>>> Three hundred people signed the memorial (Petition of Ulstermen > >>>>> 1718) > >>>>> to Governor Shute, March 6, 1718 asking encourgement to obtain > >>>>> land > >>>>> in > >>>>> "that very excellant and renowned plantation called New England. > >>>>> Five heads of the Boyd family; John, Robert, Thomas, William > >>>>> and > >>>>> another Thomas signed the Petition. Captain William Boyd came to > >>>>> this > >>>>> country fourteen times bringing Scottish pioneers from the north > >>>>> of > >>>>> Ireland, and finally located at Londonderry. There is reason to > >>>>> believe that many of the Scottish Boyds who came between the years > >>>>> 1718 > >>>>> and 1750 from Ulster were his near kin. A number of them located > >>>>> at > >>>>> Bristol, Maine and Londonderry, NH. The Petition begins: > >>>>> > >>>>> "We whose names are the underwritteninhabitants of ye north of > >>>>> Ireland doe in our own names and in the names of many others, > >>>>> our > >>>>> neighbors, gentlemen, ministers, farmers, and tradesmen, > >>>>> commisionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend the > >>>>> Reverand William Macasky to repair to His Excellancy the Right > >>>>> Honorable Colonel Samuel Suitte (Shute) Governor of New England, > >>>>> and to > >>>>> insure His Excellancy of our sincere and hearty inclinations to > >>>>> transport ourselves to that excellant and renowned Plantation > >>>>> upon > >>>>> our obtaining from his Excellancy suitable > >>>>> encouragement"......... > >>>>> > >>>>> The original copy of the Petition of Ulstermen hangs in the rooms > >>>>> of > >>>>> the > >>>>> New Hampshire Historical Society in Concord. > >>>>> > >>>>> This from my web site: http://clanboyd.info > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>>> > >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>>> trees > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>> > >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>> trees > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>> > >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>> trees > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> trees > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

I believe you are mistakeing mental capabilities with tradition. The Scot naming pattern was used generally for generations, no reason to stop just because you've moved to Ireland or America. They were smart enough to remove themselves from , in most instances , a bad situation. You should take the Scot naming pattern and use it to your advantage in your research. The naming pattern wasn't used 100% of the time but the odds are pretty good that it was used. joe Boyd Williams Cape Carancahua, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > It seems their mentality was limited back then...probably because they had > lived in feudal Europe. They could barely think to name their kids > anything > other than the usual names....Alexander, John, William, Samuel, and the > daughters were named Elizabeth... > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:23 AM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > >> Unfortunately there were a ton of Alexanders, Johns and Williams and a >> good many Andrews. Maryland must have been a goodo place for them. >> Anna Grace >> >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:03 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: >> >> > I descend from Alexander Boyd b. circa 1712 d.1780 (in Maryland) >> > Francis b. 1747 d.1797, >> > Hugh b. 1767 d. 1811, >> > James b. 1791 d.1872 (in Ohio), >> > John b. 1825 d.1901, >> > Sarah b. 1859 d.1926 >> > >> > Alexander had a brother Francis, that he named in his will. There may >> > have >> > been a brother Hugh in Chester Co. PA, as well. >> > Jane in Ohio >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:24 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >> > >> > >> >> What line of Boyds in Maryland are you from? Mine were from Frederick, >> >> not far away, out of Andrew and David >> >> Anna Grace Boyd Foster >> >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: >> >> >> >>> James, >> >>> What Ohio Boyd's are you looking for? I am an Ohio Boyd with roots >> >>> in >> >>> Cecil >> >>> Co. Md. >> >>> Jane in Ohio >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "James & Carolyn Boyd" <jcbyd@cvtv.net> >> >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:41 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> How do I get off the mailing list. The site is good but deals most >> >>>> with >> >>>> east coast boyds not ohio boyds. jcbyd@cvtv.net >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >> >>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:29 PM >> >>>> Subject: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Below shows some reasons why Boyds and other Scots left Scotland >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> Ireland. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Petition of Ulstermen, 1718 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> In the beginning of the seventeenth-century, when James VI of >> >>>>> Scotland became James I of England, (1603) a concerted effort was >> >>>>> made >> >>>>> to settle the province of Ulster in N. Ireland with Scots. King >> >>>>> James thought of this as one way to cure the "Irish problem". >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Most of the large estates from this time have long since >> >>>>> passed >> >>>>> into other hands. Some of the Undertakers (a man who undertook to >> >>>>> plant >> >>>>> the land with settlers) did not adhere to the conditions of the >> >>>>> grants and, therefore, lost their estates. Others sold the land >> >>>>> once >> >>>>> they had obtained title. Many more estates were created by >> >>>>> land >> >>>>> grants between 1641 and 1703, after the 1641 rebellion. The >> >>>>> Scottish >> >>>>> Undertakers as part of their land grants undertook to plant the >> >>>>> land >> >>>>> with settlers (or undertenants) whom they brought over from >> >>>>> Scotland. It was mainly these tennants who became the >> >>>>> ancestors >> >>>>> of the ethic group known today as Scotch-Irish, a term virtually >> >>>>> unknown in Ireland where they are known as Ulster-Scots. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Very little documentation survives on the Undertenants, but the >> >>>>> Undertakers are a different story. It must be remembered that, in >> >>>>> those times land was considered more valuable than people. Because >> >>>>> large tracts of land are involved there is far more information >> >>>>> on >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> Undertakers. As the undertenants were brought to Ireland by the >> >>>>> Undertakers it is obvious that many of them came from the same area >> >>>>> in >> >>>>> Scotland and were his near relatives. One such undertaker was: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay: second son of the sixth Lord Boyd of >> >>>>> Kilmarnock, Scotland. He married Grizel Cunningham, the daughter >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Alexander Cunningham on 22 October 1603. Ulster patent dated 29 >> >>>>> August 1610: Shean 1,500 acres, Strabane Barony, County Tyrone. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Marion, the sister of Thomas Boyd, married James Hamilton, Earl >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Abercorn and eventually acquired Sir Thomas Boyd's estate. It can >> >>>>> be >> >>>>> assumed that Thomas Boyd brought over many settlers by the name >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Boyd since the surname is quite common in Northern Ireland. >> >>>>> Many >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> the Boyd's in America are descended from these Ulster-Scots but >> >>>>> tracing them down is another thing altogether. Many records have >> >>>>> been >> >>>>> destroyed during the centuries of civil strife in the country. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> --- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *The Petition of Ulstermen* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Three hundred people signed the memorial (Petition of Ulstermen >> >>>>> 1718) >> >>>>> to Governor Shute, March 6, 1718 asking encourgement to obtain >> >>>>> land >> >>>>> in >> >>>>> "that very excellant and renowned plantation called New England. >> >>>>> Five heads of the Boyd family; John, Robert, Thomas, William >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> another Thomas signed the Petition. Captain William Boyd came to >> >>>>> this >> >>>>> country fourteen times bringing Scottish pioneers from the north >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Ireland, and finally located at Londonderry. There is reason to >> >>>>> believe that many of the Scottish Boyds who came between the years >> >>>>> 1718 >> >>>>> and 1750 from Ulster were his near kin. A number of them located >> >>>>> at >> >>>>> Bristol, Maine and Londonderry, NH. The Petition begins: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "We whose names are the underwritteninhabitants of ye north of >> >>>>> Ireland doe in our own names and in the names of many others, >> >>>>> our >> >>>>> neighbors, gentlemen, ministers, farmers, and tradesmen, >> >>>>> commisionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend the >> >>>>> Reverand William Macasky to repair to His Excellancy the Right >> >>>>> Honorable Colonel Samuel Suitte (Shute) Governor of New England, >> >>>>> and to >> >>>>> insure His Excellancy of our sincere and hearty inclinations to >> >>>>> transport ourselves to that excellant and renowned Plantation >> >>>>> upon >> >>>>> our obtaining from his Excellancy suitable >> >>>>> encouragement"......... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The original copy of the Petition of Ulstermen hangs in the rooms >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> New Hampshire Historical Society in Concord. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> This from my web site: http://clanboyd.info >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>>>> RING OF BOYDS >> >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>>>> trees >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>>> RING OF BOYDS >> >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>>> >> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>>> trees >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>> >> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>> trees >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >> trees >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> > >> > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> > trees >> > >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >> >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

Isn't that only true with the first and second son? If they had a third or fourth son who would they have been named after? I believe this was also true in the German lineages. Karen in FL. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Williams [mailto:joekate@highstream.net] Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 5:37 AM To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds I believe you are mistakeing mental capabilities with tradition. The Scot naming pattern was used generally for generations, no reason to stop just because you've moved to Ireland or America. They were smart enough to remove themselves from , in most instances , a bad situation. You should take the Scot naming pattern and use it to your advantage in your research. The naming pattern wasn't used 100% of the time but the odds are pretty good that it was used. joe Boyd Williams Cape Carancahua, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > It seems their mentality was limited back then...probably because they had > lived in feudal Europe. They could barely think to name their kids > anything > other than the usual names....Alexander, John, William, Samuel, and the > daughters were named Elizabeth... > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:23 AM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > >> Unfortunately there were a ton of Alexanders, Johns and Williams and a >> good many Andrews. Maryland must have been a goodo place for them. >> Anna Grace >> >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:03 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: >> >> > I descend from Alexander Boyd b. circa 1712 d.1780 (in Maryland) >> > Francis b. 1747 d.1797, >> > Hugh b. 1767 d. 1811, >> > James b. 1791 d.1872 (in Ohio), >> > John b. 1825 d.1901, >> > Sarah b. 1859 d.1926 >> > >> > Alexander had a brother Francis, that he named in his will. There may >> > have >> > been a brother Hugh in Chester Co. PA, as well. >> > Jane in Ohio >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:24 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >> > >> > >> >> What line of Boyds in Maryland are you from? Mine were from Frederick, >> >> not far away, out of Andrew and David >> >> Anna Grace Boyd Foster >> >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: >> >> >> >>> James, >> >>> What Ohio Boyd's are you looking for? I am an Ohio Boyd with roots >> >>> in >> >>> Cecil >> >>> Co. Md. >> >>> Jane in Ohio >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "James & Carolyn Boyd" <jcbyd@cvtv.net> >> >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:41 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> How do I get off the mailing list. The site is good but deals most >> >>>> with >> >>>> east coast boyds not ohio boyds. jcbyd@cvtv.net >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >> >>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:29 PM >> >>>> Subject: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Below shows some reasons why Boyds and other Scots left Scotland >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> Ireland. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Petition of Ulstermen, 1718 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> In the beginning of the seventeenth-century, when James VI of >> >>>>> Scotland became James I of England, (1603) a concerted effort was >> >>>>> made >> >>>>> to settle the province of Ulster in N. Ireland with Scots. King >> >>>>> James thought of this as one way to cure the "Irish problem". >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Most of the large estates from this time have long since >> >>>>> passed >> >>>>> into other hands. Some of the Undertakers (a man who undertook to >> >>>>> plant >> >>>>> the land with settlers) did not adhere to the conditions of the >> >>>>> grants and, therefore, lost their estates. Others sold the land >> >>>>> once >> >>>>> they had obtained title. Many more estates were created by >> >>>>> land >> >>>>> grants between 1641 and 1703, after the 1641 rebellion. The >> >>>>> Scottish >> >>>>> Undertakers as part of their land grants undertook to plant the >> >>>>> land >> >>>>> with settlers (or undertenants) whom they brought over from >> >>>>> Scotland. It was mainly these tennants who became the >> >>>>> ancestors >> >>>>> of the ethic group known today as Scotch-Irish, a term virtually >> >>>>> unknown in Ireland where they are known as Ulster-Scots. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Very little documentation survives on the Undertenants, but the >> >>>>> Undertakers are a different story. It must be remembered that, in >> >>>>> those times land was considered more valuable than people. Because >> >>>>> large tracts of land are involved there is far more information >> >>>>> on >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> Undertakers. As the undertenants were brought to Ireland by the >> >>>>> Undertakers it is obvious that many of them came from the same area >> >>>>> in >> >>>>> Scotland and were his near relatives. One such undertaker was: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay: second son of the sixth Lord Boyd of >> >>>>> Kilmarnock, Scotland. He married Grizel Cunningham, the daughter >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Alexander Cunningham on 22 October 1603. Ulster patent dated 29 >> >>>>> August 1610: Shean 1,500 acres, Strabane Barony, County Tyrone. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Marion, the sister of Thomas Boyd, married James Hamilton, Earl >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Abercorn and eventually acquired Sir Thomas Boyd's estate. It can >> >>>>> be >> >>>>> assumed that Thomas Boyd brought over many settlers by the name >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Boyd since the surname is quite common in Northern Ireland. >> >>>>> Many >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> the Boyd's in America are descended from these Ulster-Scots but >> >>>>> tracing them down is another thing altogether. Many records have >> >>>>> been >> >>>>> destroyed during the centuries of civil strife in the country. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> --- >> >>>>> >> >>>>> *The Petition of Ulstermen* >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Three hundred people signed the memorial (Petition of Ulstermen >> >>>>> 1718) >> >>>>> to Governor Shute, March 6, 1718 asking encourgement to obtain >> >>>>> land >> >>>>> in >> >>>>> "that very excellant and renowned plantation called New England. >> >>>>> Five heads of the Boyd family; John, Robert, Thomas, William >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> another Thomas signed the Petition. Captain William Boyd came to >> >>>>> this >> >>>>> country fourteen times bringing Scottish pioneers from the north >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> Ireland, and finally located at Londonderry. There is reason to >> >>>>> believe that many of the Scottish Boyds who came between the years >> >>>>> 1718 >> >>>>> and 1750 from Ulster were his near kin. A number of them located >> >>>>> at >> >>>>> Bristol, Maine and Londonderry, NH. The Petition begins: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "We whose names are the underwritteninhabitants of ye north of >> >>>>> Ireland doe in our own names and in the names of many others, >> >>>>> our >> >>>>> neighbors, gentlemen, ministers, farmers, and tradesmen, >> >>>>> commisionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend the >> >>>>> Reverand William Macasky to repair to His Excellancy the Right >> >>>>> Honorable Colonel Samuel Suitte (Shute) Governor of New England, >> >>>>> and to >> >>>>> insure His Excellancy of our sincere and hearty inclinations to >> >>>>> transport ourselves to that excellant and renowned Plantation >> >>>>> upon >> >>>>> our obtaining from his Excellancy suitable >> >>>>> encouragement"......... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The original copy of the Petition of Ulstermen hangs in the rooms >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> New Hampshire Historical Society in Concord. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> This from my web site: http://clanboyd.info >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>>>> RING OF BOYDS >> >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>>>> trees >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>>> RING OF BOYDS >> >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>>> >> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>>> trees >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >>> >> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >>> trees >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> >> trees >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> > >> > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> > trees >> > >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >> >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees

In some of the cases I know of in my own family, they were named for past generations so names were repeated for some time. They might also be named for maternal forebears. In my own family they got away from that custom in the 19thC when Asbury McKendree BOyd was named for two Methodist ministers and his son Lawrence was named for his best friend, a Mr. Lawrence in Boston who named <his> first son Boyd. Anna Grace Boyd Foster On Jul 30, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Karen McMillan wrote: > Isn't that only true with the first and second son? If they had a > third or > fourth son who would they have been named after? I believe this was > also > true in the German lineages. > Karen in FL. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Williams [mailto:joekate@highstream.net] > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 5:37 AM > To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > I believe you are mistakeing mental capabilities with tradition. The > Scot > naming pattern was used generally for generations, no reason to stop > just > because you've moved to Ireland or America. > They were smart enough to remove themselves from , in most instances , > a bad > > situation. > You should take the Scot naming pattern and use it to your advantage > in your > > research. The naming pattern wasn't used 100% of the time but the odds > are > pretty good that it was used. > > joe Boyd Williams > Cape Carancahua, Texas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > >> It seems their mentality was limited back then...probably because >> they had >> lived in feudal Europe. They could barely think to name their kids >> anything >> other than the usual names....Alexander, John, William, Samuel, and >> the >> daughters were named Elizabeth... >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >> >> >>> Unfortunately there were a ton of Alexanders, Johns and Williams and >>> a >>> good many Andrews. Maryland must have been a goodo place for them. >>> Anna Grace >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:03 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: >>> >>>> I descend from Alexander Boyd b. circa 1712 d.1780 (in Maryland) >>>> Francis b. 1747 d.1797, >>>> Hugh b. 1767 d. 1811, >>>> James b. 1791 d.1872 (in Ohio), >>>> John b. 1825 d.1901, >>>> Sarah b. 1859 d.1926 >>>> >>>> Alexander had a brother Francis, that he named in his will. There >>>> may >>>> have >>>> been a brother Hugh in Chester Co. PA, as well. >>>> Jane in Ohio >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> >>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:24 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >>>> >>>> >>>>> What line of Boyds in Maryland are you from? Mine were from >>>>> Frederick, >>>>> not far away, out of Andrew and David >>>>> Anna Grace Boyd Foster >>>>> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> James, >>>>>> What Ohio Boyd's are you looking for? I am an Ohio Boyd with >>>>>> roots >>>>>> in >>>>>> Cecil >>>>>> Co. Md. >>>>>> Jane in Ohio >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "James & Carolyn Boyd" <jcbyd@cvtv.net> >>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:41 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> How do I get off the mailing list. The site is good but deals >>>>>>> most >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> east coast boyds not ohio boyds. jcbyd@cvtv.net >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >>>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:29 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Below shows some reasons why Boyds and other Scots left Scotland >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> Ireland. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Petition of Ulstermen, 1718 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the beginning of the seventeenth-century, when James VI of >>>>>>>> Scotland became James I of England, (1603) a concerted effort >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>> to settle the province of Ulster in N. Ireland with Scots. >>>>>>>> King >>>>>>>> James thought of this as one way to cure the "Irish >>>>>>>> problem". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most of the large estates from this time have long since >>>>>>>> passed >>>>>>>> into other hands. Some of the Undertakers (a man who undertook >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> plant >>>>>>>> the land with settlers) did not adhere to the conditions of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> grants and, therefore, lost their estates. Others sold the >>>>>>>> land >>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>> they had obtained title. Many more estates were created by >>>>>>>> land >>>>>>>> grants between 1641 and 1703, after the 1641 rebellion. The >>>>>>>> Scottish >>>>>>>> Undertakers as part of their land grants undertook to plant the >>>>>>>> land >>>>>>>> with settlers (or undertenants) whom they brought over from >>>>>>>> Scotland. It was mainly these tennants who became the >>>>>>>> ancestors >>>>>>>> of the ethic group known today as Scotch-Irish, a term >>>>>>>> virtually >>>>>>>> unknown in Ireland where they are known as Ulster-Scots. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very little documentation survives on the Undertenants, but >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Undertakers are a different story. It must be remembered that, >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> those times land was considered more valuable than people. >>>>>>>> Because >>>>>>>> large tracts of land are involved there is far more >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Undertakers. As the undertenants were brought to Ireland by the >>>>>>>> Undertakers it is obvious that many of them came from the same >>>>>>>> area >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Scotland and were his near relatives. One such undertaker was: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay: second son of the sixth Lord Boyd of >>>>>>>> Kilmarnock, Scotland. He married Grizel Cunningham, the >>>>>>>> daughter >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> Alexander Cunningham on 22 October 1603. Ulster patent dated >>>>>>>> 29 >>>>>>>> August 1610: Shean 1,500 acres, Strabane Barony, County >>>>>>>> Tyrone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marion, the sister of Thomas Boyd, married James Hamilton, >>>>>>>> Earl >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> Abercorn and eventually acquired Sir Thomas Boyd's estate. It >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> assumed that Thomas Boyd brought over many settlers by the >>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> Boyd since the surname is quite common in Northern Ireland. >>>>>>>> Many >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the Boyd's in America are descended from these Ulster-Scots >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> tracing them down is another thing altogether. Many records have >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> destroyed during the centuries of civil strife in the country. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *The Petition of Ulstermen* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Three hundred people signed the memorial (Petition of Ulstermen >>>>>>>> 1718) >>>>>>>> to Governor Shute, March 6, 1718 asking encourgement to obtain >>>>>>>> land >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> "that very excellant and renowned plantation called New >>>>>>>> England. >>>>>>>> Five heads of the Boyd family; John, Robert, Thomas, William >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> another Thomas signed the Petition. Captain William Boyd came >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> country fourteen times bringing Scottish pioneers from the >>>>>>>> north >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> Ireland, and finally located at Londonderry. There is reason >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> believe that many of the Scottish Boyds who came between the >>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>> 1718 >>>>>>>> and 1750 from Ulster were his near kin. A number of them >>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> Bristol, Maine and Londonderry, NH. The Petition begins: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "We whose names are the underwritteninhabitants of ye north of >>>>>>>> Ireland doe in our own names and in the names of many >>>>>>>> others, >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> neighbors, gentlemen, ministers, farmers, and tradesmen, >>>>>>>> commisionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend the >>>>>>>> Reverand William Macasky to repair to His Excellancy the Right >>>>>>>> Honorable Colonel Samuel Suitte (Shute) Governor of New >>>>>>>> England, >>>>>>>> and to >>>>>>>> insure His Excellancy of our sincere and hearty inclinations >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> transport ourselves to that excellant and renowned >>>>>>>> Plantation >>>>>>>> upon >>>>>>>> our obtaining from his Excellancy suitable >>>>>>>> encouragement"......... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The original copy of the Petition of Ulstermen hangs in the >>>>>>>> rooms >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> New Hampshire Historical Society in Concord. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This from my web site: http://clanboyd.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? >>>>>>>> db=boyd- >>>>>>>> trees >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? >>>>>>> db=boyd- >>>>>>> trees >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>>> >>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? >>>>>> db=boyd- >>>>>> trees >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>>> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>>> trees >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>> trees >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

You're right - it was a tradition. And I have certainly used it my research thru the years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Williams" <joekate@highstream.net> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > I believe you are mistakeing mental capabilities with tradition. The Scot > naming pattern was used generally for generations, no reason to stop just > because you've moved to Ireland or America. > They were smart enough to remove themselves from , in most instances , a bad > situation. > You should take the Scot naming pattern and use it to your advantage in your > research. The naming pattern wasn't used 100% of the time but the odds are > pretty good that it was used. > > joe Boyd Williams > Cape Carancahua, Texas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > > > It seems their mentality was limited back then...probably because they had > > lived in feudal Europe. They could barely think to name their kids > > anything > > other than the usual names....Alexander, John, William, Samuel, and the > > daughters were named Elizabeth... > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:23 AM > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > > > > >> Unfortunately there were a ton of Alexanders, Johns and Williams and a > >> good many Andrews. Maryland must have been a goodo place for them. > >> Anna Grace > >> > >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:03 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > >> > >> > I descend from Alexander Boyd b. circa 1712 d.1780 (in Maryland) > >> > Francis b. 1747 d.1797, > >> > Hugh b. 1767 d. 1811, > >> > James b. 1791 d.1872 (in Ohio), > >> > John b. 1825 d.1901, > >> > Sarah b. 1859 d.1926 > >> > > >> > Alexander had a brother Francis, that he named in his will. There may > >> > have > >> > been a brother Hugh in Chester Co. PA, as well. > >> > Jane in Ohio > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > >> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:24 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >> > > >> > > >> >> What line of Boyds in Maryland are you from? Mine were from Frederick, > >> >> not far away, out of Andrew and David > >> >> Anna Grace Boyd Foster > >> >> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> James, > >> >>> What Ohio Boyd's are you looking for? I am an Ohio Boyd with roots > >> >>> in > >> >>> Cecil > >> >>> Co. Md. > >> >>> Jane in Ohio > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: "James & Carolyn Boyd" <jcbyd@cvtv.net> > >> >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:41 PM > >> >>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> How do I get off the mailing list. The site is good but deals most > >> >>>> with > >> >>>> east coast boyds not ohio boyds. jcbyd@cvtv.net > >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>>> From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > >> >>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:29 PM > >> >>>> Subject: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Below shows some reasons why Boyds and other Scots left Scotland > >> >>>>> and > >> >>>>> Ireland. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Petition of Ulstermen, 1718 > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> In the beginning of the seventeenth-century, when James VI of > >> >>>>> Scotland became James I of England, (1603) a concerted effort was > >> >>>>> made > >> >>>>> to settle the province of Ulster in N. Ireland with Scots. King > >> >>>>> James thought of this as one way to cure the "Irish problem". > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Most of the large estates from this time have long since > >> >>>>> passed > >> >>>>> into other hands. Some of the Undertakers (a man who undertook to > >> >>>>> plant > >> >>>>> the land with settlers) did not adhere to the conditions of the > >> >>>>> grants and, therefore, lost their estates. Others sold the land > >> >>>>> once > >> >>>>> they had obtained title. Many more estates were created by > >> >>>>> land > >> >>>>> grants between 1641 and 1703, after the 1641 rebellion. The > >> >>>>> Scottish > >> >>>>> Undertakers as part of their land grants undertook to plant the > >> >>>>> land > >> >>>>> with settlers (or undertenants) whom they brought over from > >> >>>>> Scotland. It was mainly these tennants who became the > >> >>>>> ancestors > >> >>>>> of the ethic group known today as Scotch-Irish, a term virtually > >> >>>>> unknown in Ireland where they are known as Ulster-Scots. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Very little documentation survives on the Undertenants, but the > >> >>>>> Undertakers are a different story. It must be remembered that, in > >> >>>>> those times land was considered more valuable than people. Because > >> >>>>> large tracts of land are involved there is far more information > >> >>>>> on > >> >>>>> the > >> >>>>> Undertakers. As the undertenants were brought to Ireland by the > >> >>>>> Undertakers it is obvious that many of them came from the same area > >> >>>>> in > >> >>>>> Scotland and were his near relatives. One such undertaker was: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay: second son of the sixth Lord Boyd of > >> >>>>> Kilmarnock, Scotland. He married Grizel Cunningham, the daughter > >> >>>>> of > >> >>>>> Alexander Cunningham on 22 October 1603. Ulster patent dated 29 > >> >>>>> August 1610: Shean 1,500 acres, Strabane Barony, County Tyrone. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Marion, the sister of Thomas Boyd, married James Hamilton, Earl > >> >>>>> of > >> >>>>> Abercorn and eventually acquired Sir Thomas Boyd's estate. It can > >> >>>>> be > >> >>>>> assumed that Thomas Boyd brought over many settlers by the name > >> >>>>> of > >> >>>>> Boyd since the surname is quite common in Northern Ireland. > >> >>>>> Many > >> >>>>> of > >> >>>>> the Boyd's in America are descended from these Ulster-Scots but > >> >>>>> tracing them down is another thing altogether. Many records have > >> >>>>> been > >> >>>>> destroyed during the centuries of civil strife in the country. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>> -- > >> >>>>> --- > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> *The Petition of Ulstermen* > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Three hundred people signed the memorial (Petition of Ulstermen > >> >>>>> 1718) > >> >>>>> to Governor Shute, March 6, 1718 asking encourgement to obtain > >> >>>>> land > >> >>>>> in > >> >>>>> "that very excellant and renowned plantation called New England. > >> >>>>> Five heads of the Boyd family; John, Robert, Thomas, William > >> >>>>> and > >> >>>>> another Thomas signed the Petition. Captain William Boyd came to > >> >>>>> this > >> >>>>> country fourteen times bringing Scottish pioneers from the north > >> >>>>> of > >> >>>>> Ireland, and finally located at Londonderry. There is reason to > >> >>>>> believe that many of the Scottish Boyds who came between the years > >> >>>>> 1718 > >> >>>>> and 1750 from Ulster were his near kin. A number of them located > >> >>>>> at > >> >>>>> Bristol, Maine and Londonderry, NH. The Petition begins: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> "We whose names are the underwritteninhabitants of ye north of > >> >>>>> Ireland doe in our own names and in the names of many others, > >> >>>>> our > >> >>>>> neighbors, gentlemen, ministers, farmers, and tradesmen, > >> >>>>> commisionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend the > >> >>>>> Reverand William Macasky to repair to His Excellancy the Right > >> >>>>> Honorable Colonel Samuel Suitte (Shute) Governor of New England, > >> >>>>> and to > >> >>>>> insure His Excellancy of our sincere and hearty inclinations to > >> >>>>> transport ourselves to that excellant and renowned Plantation > >> >>>>> upon > >> >>>>> our obtaining from his Excellancy suitable > >> >>>>> encouragement"......... > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> The original copy of the Petition of Ulstermen hangs in the rooms > >> >>>>> of > >> >>>>> the > >> >>>>> New Hampshire Historical Society in Concord. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> This from my web site: http://clanboyd.info > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> >>>>> RING OF BOYDS > >> >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> >>>>> trees > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> >>>> RING OF BOYDS > >> >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> >>>> > >> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> >>>> trees > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> >>> > >> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> >>> trees > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> >> > >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> >> trees > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > > >> > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> > trees > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >