Thank you Colin for this information, which I can add to Chapter 4/208. 1) Do you "know" where after 1755 in Chester County, PA that the family lived. My understanding is that both John and Janet died in about 1750 in Bucks co., PA before Northampton County was formed in 1752. 2) Your phrase "Philly or Bucks County family" - does this mean the seven children's birth? 3 I would ESTIMATE that all seven children were born between 1715 and 1729 before they moved. Although the 7th may have have been born in the Irish Settlement in Bucks County!! Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 10:43 AM To: clanboyd Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Where did John Boyd and Janet Craig lived before Bucks Cou, PA? Married in Philadelphia not Chester County. Went to Chester County after 1755 Indian attacks in Northampton. Philly or Bucks County family. On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 6:39 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning all > > > > It is over 25 years that I was first introduced to the families of John > Boyd of the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA and his younger brother > Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA. > >

Family of the Fifth son of George and Isabella Boyd – Robert Boyd (bc 1720 – 1782) It seems that of the five known sons of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass, PA, it would appear that the two youngest sons that came to Halifax County – time unknown – and then moved onto Granville County, NC are the least known of this family. R1 George Boyd, b 1691 ( , Co. Antrim/Airth, Stirling (?), Ireland), d / /1731 (Chester, Lancaster Co., Pa.), bu St. John's Episcopal Churchyard, Compass, Lancaster Co., PA.[1], m / /1710? ( , Co, Antrim, Ire), Isabella ?????, dau of and (nee ) ???, bc 1695 ( , Ireland), d / /17xx ( ), bu St. John's Episcopal Churchyard, Compass, Lancaster Co., PA., and had issue:- [Lived: Lancaster PA , USA ] S5 Robert Boyd, b / /1720 ( ), d / /1782 (?) ( ), bu , m / /174x ( , ), Lucretia O'Mary, dau of and (nee ) O'Mary, bc 1720 ( ), d / /17xx ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: , Granville Co., NC ] - From the book, The Boyds of Boyds Tank, by Frank Ewell Boyd & William Taylor Boyd, (1970), 107 p. (USLC # 71-126643), pp 20-21, said that:- "The brothers James (1717?-1772) and Robert (1719?-1778?), sons of George Boyd of Pennsylvania, were in Virginia with older brothers John and Patrick for a time but moved to North Carolina settling in Granville County which borders on the Virginia state line just south of Halifax County. Both died in Granville County." ... "Robert Boyd's will dated August 25, 1778 and recorded in Granville County Will Book 1, page 331, lists his wife Lucretia - - - - - and the following children-Robert Jr., Margaret (Goss), Mary (Wilborn), Constant, John, Rachel (Cannon), Thomas, Sarah and Isabella. Daughter Constant joined her kin in Tennessee and son John moved to South Carolina. Robert died in 1782, age about 63 years. We believe these Boyds-James and Robert-lived in the Stovall community." [Mike Boyd's Note: This list nine children, the eight below plus an Isabella Boyd, whom I have added to the list. It would appear from the way this is written that all these children remained in Granville Co., NC, with only Consant Boyd (T6) going to Tennessee and her brother John Boyd (T7) moving to South Carolina, but did not say which County. This may be one of the several John Boyd's in the 1790 Census list for South Carolina. It would also appear that this list solves the conflict over if the first son of Robert Boyd (S5) is Andrew or Robert. This lists him as Robert.] The known “nine” children of Robert Boyd and Lucretia O'Mary are - T1 Robert Boyd, b / /1752 ( ), d bef 22 May 1826 ( ), bu , m ? [Lived: 1824 in Pickens District, South Carolina[2] ] T2 Rachel Boyd, bc / /1755 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), died before 1824, bu , m / /177x ( , ), John Cannon, son of and (nee ) Cannon, bc 175x ( ), d bef 1824 ( ), bu , and had no issue:- [Lived: ] - Document #208 of Slaymaker Papers said Rachel Boyd Cannon [dec’d] one of the 8 children of Robert Boyd, one of the 4 uncles. Affidavit by Robert Boyd of Pickens District, South Carolina that Rachel Boyd Cannon was the daughter of Robert [the elder] and that she died without issue and that Robert [the younger] is her legal heir. This would also suggest that John Cannon was also died by 1824. T3 Mary Boyd, bc 1757 ( ), d bef 1826 ( ), bu , m / /177x ( , ), Thomas Wilborn, son of and (nee ) Wilborn, bc 1755 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? [Lived: ] - twin to Sarah (T4). From Document #228 of the Slaymaker Papers said Mary had 4 issue. T4 Sarah Boyd, bc 1757 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /177x ( , ), John McLaughlin bc 1755 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? [Lived: ] - twin to Mary (T3). Mentioned in Document #208 which would indicate that she was still alive in 1855, T5 Margaret Boyd, bc / /1760 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /178x ( , ), Thomas Goss, son of and (nee ) Goss, b / /175x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? [Lived: ] T6 Constant Boyd, bc / /1762 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? [Lived: ] T7 John Boyd, bc / /1764 ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m / /178x ( church, place), wife not given, dau of and (nee ) ???, b / /176x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - From Document #228 of the Slaymaker Papers "it said John's son John". This would indicate that T7 had already died by 1855, but did not give any other indication of any other issue. T8 Thomas Boyd, bc / /1768 ( ), d bef 22 May 1826 ( ), bu , m / /179x (church, place), wife not given, dau of and (nee ) ???, b / /177x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - From Document #228 of Slaymaker Papers said Thomas had 5 children. T9 Isabelle Boyd, b / /177x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , m ? [Lived: ] A few days ago, I was asked the question as to whom was Robert Boyd’s first wife. In the details that I have, I only have that he married Lucretia O'Mary. And the list of children and their known dates of birth, does not seem to suggest a first wife. However, the first child, Robert Boyd was born in 1752, when Robert was about 32 years old. So, this may suggest that he had or could have married prior to this date. Perhaps with the “first” wife dying in childbirth with their first child? I would expect that this possible first marriage could have taken place in the second half of the 1740’s - if it did occur! But if this marriage did take place, from the information I currently have, I could not say if this marriage took place in South Boston, Halifax County, or in Granville County, NC or even in Chester County, PA. There will be a little pressure to find descendants of this part of the Boyds of Halifax County, as on 14 February 2021, will be the 240th anniversary of the “Crossing of the Dan” in 1781 by General Greene’s Colonial Army. The saving of this Army was the turning point of the War in favour of the Colonial forces. At this time, I am not certain, if there will be a separate Boyd “event” in conjunction with what the town of South Boston, Virginia normally undertakes each year. Hopefully, those that are involved or plan to be involved can provide more data on this family and its descendants. Thank you for your assistance Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1]Information from Brenda Cornelius, [address], [email protected] in an Emal of 6 July 1999. [2]From Document #208 of Slaymaker Papers as supplied by Jesse Edwards and Marty Dale in 1999.

Bruce A very nice puzzle for us for Xmas. 1) Would your local Library have any of the County Histories for the locations that you mentioned? 2) Caldwell County, KY joins Christian and Trigg Counties, where at least three separate Boyd families settled in the early 1800's 3) But I am aware that the family of a John Boyd, whom, if I recall died in Barren County, KY, also moved to this County. And there were "several" Boyd families in Barren County, KY as well. So, some of these other Boyd families may have moved to Caldwell County, KY as well. 4) Hawkins County, Tennesee, in in the NE corner of TN, but it does not jump out at me at present, so I will have to do some searching for any connections to this County. But that will take a few days 5) I do have several Boyd families from Newberry County, SC - but then moving north to Hawkins Co., TN, seems a bit strange. You would expect them to have migrated to GA, AL and perhaps then up to the Tennessee River and gone down it to Caldwell County, KY. What other Boyd's appear in the County Censes in 1850 and 1860, etc Hear I am thinking that James, may have had other siblings in the area. I have a few projects to finish before I can start on this for you, but hopefully others can supply data to in the mean time. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Boyd Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] My Brick Wall - James F Boyd d1899 in St Louis, Missouri My brick wall is my 2nd great-grandfather, James F. Boyd, d. 3 April 1899 in St. Louis, Missouri. From his stated age at death, I have a calculated birth date of 11 Feb 1817. He first appears in the 1850 Census in McDonough County, Illinois (age 38, b. Tennessee) with his wife "Catherine", age 34, b. Kentucky, and two children, William, age 3, and Mary, age 2, both born in Illinois. William is my great-grandfather. James and his family moved to St. Louis by 1860, where he worked as a saddler or harness maker until his death. They also appear in Caldwell County, KY in 1857 where their daughter Kate was born. Her birth record identifies the mother as Kittora J Hanson. The remaining children were born in Missouri (presumably St. Louis): Charles E., 1852; James A., 1861; and Lucy P., 1864. Only William and Mary are known to have living descendants. Census records from 1850 through 1880 list James's birth state variously as Tennessee, Kentucky and Alabama. His death certificate says he was born in Alabama, but does not identify his parents. James's wife is listed as Catherine, Kittora, K.J., Ketina, and Keturah on various records. It is not clear whether Catherine listed on the 1850 Census is the same person as Keturah (from 1857 on). Keturah is also a brick wall, as I have no specifics about her place of birth, birth date, or parents. I have autosomal DNA matches with several people who have Boyd roots in Hawkins County, Tennesee. I also have matches with Boyds currently living in Craighead County, Arkansas. They have roots in South Carolina in the 1700s. I have not been able to find a genealogical connection to any of these people. I speculate that the Hawkins County Boyds are related to Boyds in Newberry County, SC who came there from County Antrim -- but I have no evidence of this conjecture. My Y-DNA haplogroup is in the R1b-FGC12774 Boyd line. My terminal SNP is R-BY132251 (FTDNA Big Y-700), where I have only one known match. We have not yet found a genealogical connection. I am aware of a male Boyd surname descendant in Hawkins County, but I have not been able to get him to do a YDNA test. I am very interested in communicating with anyone who may have knowledge of Boyd history in Hawkins County, TN before the Civil War. I have done research at the Hawkins County archives and public library in Rogersville. Unfortunately, many records were destroyed during the Civil War. My earliest Boyd known in Hawkins County (1830) is William Boyd (b1786 in VA, d1855 in TN), but little is known about him. Family trees claim that he may have had 3 sons, Claiborn, William Reuben, and James (!), and 3 daughters, Mary, Susan, and Lucy. These connections need verification. Regards, Bruce Boyd St. Louis, Missouri _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My brick wall is my 2nd great-grandfather, James F. Boyd, d. 3 April 1899 in St. Louis, Missouri.  From his stated age at death, I have a calculated birth date of 11 Feb 1817.  He first appears in the 1850 Census in McDonough County, Illinois (age 38, b. Tennessee) with his wife "Catherine", age 34, b. Kentucky, and two children, William, age 3, and Mary, age 2, both born in Illinois. William is my great-grandfather. James and his family moved to St. Louis by 1860, where he worked as a saddler or harness maker until his death.  They also appear in Caldwell County, KY in 1857 where their daughter Kate was born.  Her birth record identifies the mother as Kittora J Hanson.  The remaining children were born in Missouri (presumably St. Louis): Charles E., 1852; James A., 1861; and Lucy P., 1864. Only William and Mary are known to have living descendants. Census records from 1850 through 1880 list James's birth state variously as Tennessee, Kentucky and Alabama.  His death certificate says he was born in Alabama, but does not identify his parents.  James's wife is listed as Catherine, Kittora, K.J., Ketina, and Keturah on various records.  It is not clear whether Catherine listed on the 1850 Census is the same person as Keturah (from 1857 on).   Keturah is also a brick wall, as I have no specifics about her place of birth, birth date, or parents. I have autosomal DNA matches with several people who have Boyd roots in Hawkins County, Tennesee.  I also have matches with Boyds currently living in Craighead County, Arkansas.  They have roots in South Carolina in the 1700s.  I have not been able to find a genealogical connection to any of these people.  I speculate that the Hawkins County Boyds are related to Boyds in Newberry County, SC who came there from County Antrim -- but I have no evidence of this conjecture. My Y-DNA haplogroup is in the R1b-FGC12774 Boyd line.  My terminal SNP is R-BY132251 (FTDNA Big Y-700), where I have only one known match.  We have not yet found a genealogical connection. I am aware of a male Boyd surname descendant in Hawkins County, but I have not been able to get him to do a YDNA test. I am very interested in communicating with anyone who may have knowledge of Boyd history in Hawkins County, TN before the Civil War.  I have done research at the Hawkins County archives and public library in Rogersville.  Unfortunately, many records were destroyed during the Civil War.  My earliest Boyd known in Hawkins County (1830) is William Boyd (b1786 in VA, d1855 in TN), but little is known about him.  Family trees claim that he may have had 3 sons, Claiborn, William Reuben, and James (!), and 3 daughters, Mary, Susan, and Lucy.  These connections need verification. Regards, Bruce Boyd St. Louis, Missouri

I show that he came from Philadelphia per Scotch-Irish of Northampton County, Pennsylvania, p. 46. "As early as 1728, John Boyd, who had married Jane Craig, went with Colonel Thomas Craig from Philadelphia and settled at a place...later known as the Craig Settlement." https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/digitalbks2/id/12902 Lorraine Allrelated On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:38 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning all > > > > It is over 25 years that I was first introduced to the families of John > Boyd of the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA and his younger brother > Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA. > > > > However, it was not until this morning that the “thought” came to mind, as > to where in Chester County, PA did John Boyd lived before he and his wife > Janet Craig, went in 1729 to the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA. > > > > I am assuming that they lived in Chester County, PA and I assume between > 1715, when they were married, and 1729, when they moved to Irish Settlement > in Bucks County, I would expect that all their 6 or so children were also > born in this location. > > > > Can any members of this list supply where this family lived before Bucks > County, PA in 1729? > > > > Thank you for your assistance > > > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane, Aust. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Married in Philadelphia not Chester County. Went to Chester County after 1755 Indian attacks in Northampton. Philly or Bucks County family. On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 6:39 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning all > > > > It is over 25 years that I was first introduced to the families of John > Boyd of the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA and his younger brother > Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA. > > > > However, it was not until this morning that the “thought” came to mind, as > to where in Chester County, PA did John Boyd lived before he and his wife > Janet Craig, went in 1729 to the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA. > > > > I am assuming that they lived in Chester County, PA and I assume between > 1715, when they were married, and 1729, when they moved to Irish Settlement > in Bucks County, I would expect that all their 6 or so children were also > born in this location. > > > > Can any members of this list supply where this family lived before Bucks > County, PA in 1729? > > > > Thank you for your assistance > > > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane, Aust. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Good morning all It is over 25 years that I was first introduced to the families of John Boyd of the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA and his younger brother Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA. However, it was not until this morning that the “thought” came to mind, as to where in Chester County, PA did John Boyd lived before he and his wife Janet Craig, went in 1729 to the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA. I am assuming that they lived in Chester County, PA and I assume between 1715, when they were married, and 1729, when they moved to Irish Settlement in Bucks County, I would expect that all their 6 or so children were also born in this location. Can any members of this list supply where this family lived before Bucks County, PA in 1729? Thank you for your assistance Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Good morning list Are there any Boyd or Boyd descendants from Scotland on this Net list? In a private conversation, I had overnight, the comment was made – “Pity we can’t do something in the Motherland of the Boyds.” In 2009, at the Clan Gathering in Edinburgh, the Clan had a tent at this Gathering in which many Boyds from all over the UK came to talk to me about their own Boyd Branches and Boyd history. We were one of some 140 Clan tents at this event. In June 2014, the Clan had a tent at the 700th Anniversary of Bannockburn, where only 30 Clans were represented. Again, even with a broken arm that I had done two weeks before, I was able to meet quite a number Boyds from the UK and again help then with their families. While on 6 April 2020, is the signing of the Declaration of Arbroath in 1320. It is said that Sir Robert Boyd, IV, as a feudal Baron, and Head of Clan Boyd signed this, but a listed of those that did sign it – that I was sent this year – did not have his name on it. My current understanding, is that the Scottish Government is not going to do anything like the Clan Gathering in 2009 in Edinburgh or the 2014 Bannockburn event for Arbroath. And I understand that something is going to be done locally at Arbroath on 6 April 2020. So, it appears that we can’t use this 700th Anniversary of Arbroath, to have any Boyd gathering. So, first question, would those Boyds in Scotland like to be able to get together once a year? (Hopefully, this would also allow those of the Clan that immigrated many years ago, to plan to take holiday, to meet their Scottish cousins, etc at this event.) The second question of when? Perhaps the date (or the nearest Saturday) to when William Boyd, 4th Earl of Kilmarnock was executed in August 1746. The third question where? I am not sure if this can or should be Kilmarnock or Dean Castle or some other venue in Scotland? And if you know any Boyds in Scotland, though other means, please forward this Email to them as well. I will also send this message to the new Boyd Facebook page called “Clan Boyd Family.” The URL for the Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/2129188920708821/ For your discussion. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

The Children of George Boyd and Elizabeth Johnston of Airth, Stirlingshire I then looked to see if I could see a marriage and there was no marriage in the 1994 IGI for the UK for a George Boyd and Elizabeth Johnstoun between 1672 and 1691. However I did find a possible birth for THE George who married Elizabeth as follows:- George BOYD (M).............. B: Abt 1661 B: 8 Jun 1936 LOGAN F#: 177927 @ Spouse: Elizabeth JOHNSTON of Parish of Airth, Stirling, E: Pre-1970 P#: 70 Scotland SP: Pre-1970 O#: 2720 If the above George is George Boyd (R5 see below) father, you might expect that he was married in the early 1680's and this would, I would estimate, place George as the 4th or 5th child. By using the ISYS program on the 1994 IGI for the UK I was only able to find one other child born to this George Boyd and Elizabeth Johnstoun/Johnston which was a son - a James Boyd born possibly in late 1693 at Airth. His details are below:- John BOYD (M).............. C: 25 Feb 1687 B: 14 Jun 1990 ARIZO Ba: C114692 Father: George BOYD Airth, Stirling, Scotland E: 22 Feb 1991 ARIZO So: 1040210,1040328 Mother: Elspet JOHNSTON SP: 2 Mar 1991 ARIZO George BOYD (M)........... C: 17 May 1692 B: 17 Apr 1974 SLAKE Ba: 7331611 84 Father: Georg BOYD Airth, Stirling, Scotland E: 6 Jun 1974 SLAKE So: 934260 Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTOUN SP: 20 Aug 1974 SLAKE James BOYD (M)............. C: 3 Jan 1694 B: 11 Oct 1887 Ba: 7331612 6 Father: Gorg BOYD Airth, Stirling, Scotland E: 28 Feb 1945 ALBER So: 934260 Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTON SP: 5 Mar 1946 SLAKE If it is accepted that George was born in Airth, Stirlingshire instead of Co. Antrim then George's parents MIGHT be - Q1 George Boyd, bc 1661 (Parish of Airth, Stirlingshire), d / /17xx ( , Ireland?), bu , mc 168x (Anglican Church, Airth?), Elizabeth Johnston, dau of and (nee ) Johnston, b / /166x ( ), d / /17xx ( , Ireland?), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] R3? John Boyd, b / /1687 (Airth) R5? George Boyd, b / /1691 (Airth), R6? James Boyd, b / /1693 (Airth) QUESTION ONE – has anyone found the date and location of marriage got George Boyd and Elizabeth Johnston? If we accept that this George Boyd was born in 1661, it could mean that he married between 1681 to 1686. So, determining when they married may help us to work out if John Boyd, born in 1687 is their first child or the second, third or fourth (unlikely to have that may born in this 5-year window) children. QUESTION TWO – with a four-year gap between the Baptisms of John Boyd and George Boyd, it may indicate that a fourth child was born in this period. (However, as I only have the 1994 IGI copied down to Margaret Boyd, there could be a child listed in the second half born to them.) QUESTION THREE – where there more children than just the above three born to this couple? In the IGI it provides one Church record and two private trees, that these three are of the same family. Not a high degree of confidence. I am aware that in some of the IT trees that I have seen online or in websites, but which I now can’t put my hands on, I think that I have seen about six children listed. But I can’t recall the names, sex or dates of these births. David Boyd of Oxfordshire, England, tell us his DNA test results match those of a descendant of George Boyd of Compass, PA. And I think that noticed a few days ago, when Bob Boyd, posted the DNA results, that at least two people had the starting point as a George Boyd born in 1661. So, I am not quite sure if one of these is David of Oxfordshire, or a third party who is also researching this same Boyd family from Airth. QUESTION FOUR – where there any daughters born to this couple and did those families stay in the Airth area of Stirlingshire? Now might also be a good time to ask the list if any members belong to the Stirlingshire at ROOTSWEB.COM net list. If so, feel free to post these articles on this family to that net lit. I have a list of over 30 people researching this family, so is there one of that number that could also join this Stirlingshire net list at rootsweb.com There are “quite” a number of other Boyd families in Airth in the 1600’s, plus a number from Stirling (City) itself, and I think several other places as well in this County. QUESTION FIVE – has anyone consulted Clan Johnston over this marriage? Or the Johnston named rootsweb.com net list? If I recall, the Johnston Clan came from between Lockerbie and Moffat and east of the M74, but I am not quite sure how far East they went. They were a Border Clan. But they could also have had an Estate near Airth, as well. As far as I know, no one has yet provided any advice from the Johnston side of this family. So that may also be explored. And as Boyd families had Estates in Dumfriesshire from before 1450, it may mean that both this Boyd family and the Johnston family moved to the Airth area, for yet an unknown reason, prior to 1670. And this Boyd family maybe linked to Boyds form this Border part of Scotland. Please discuss, my questions!! Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Good morning all The place of birth of George Boyd of Compass, PA? I first became aware of George Boyd of Compass, PA when I read an article in Dean Road in 1998. In the October 1998 issue of Dean Road, page 16, Vera Metz of 375 Harrison St., Twin Falls ID 83301 USA said that George was born in Airth, Stirlingshire, Scotland. I am not sure on what bases she has made this claim? Airth, Stirlingshire is about 1 km from the south bank of the River Forth - about 12 kms SE of Stirling Town and about 6 kms north of Grangemouth. It is also in a part of Scotland where a number of Boyd's were frequent, although not as frequent as in Ayrshire. So armed with this information, I was able to consult the 1994 International Genealogical Index for the UK and found the following entries:- George BOYD (M)...... C: 31 May 1691 B: 11 Oct 1887 LOGAN F#: 177846 @ Rel: Hugh FINDLAY Airth, Stirling, Scotland E: Pre-1970 P#: 199 (no parents listed) SP: Pre-1970 O#: 7130 Georg BOYD (M)............. C: 31 May 1691 B: 11 Oct 1887 Ba: C114692 Father: Robert BOYD Airth, Stirling, Scotland E: 21 Feb 1945 ALBER So: 1040210,1040328 Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTOUN SP: 2 Mar 1991 ARIZO George BOYD (M)........... B: 1691 B: 21 Oct 1980 OGDEN Ba: F801962 10 @^_- Spouse: Isabella Mrs BOYD Antrim, Ulster Province, Ireland E: 8 Nov 1980 OGDEN So: 1260781 George BOYD (M)........... C: 17 May 1692 B: 17 Apr 1974 SLAKE Ba: 7331611 84 Father: Georg BOYD Airth, Stirling, Scotland E: 6 Jun 1974 SLAKE So: 934260 Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTOUN SP: 20 Aug 1974 SLAKE John BOYD (M).............. C: 25 Feb 1687 B: 14 Jun 1990 ARIZO Ba: C114692 Father: George BOYD Airth, Stirling, Scotland E: 22 Feb 1991 ARIZO So: 1040210,1040328 Mother: Elspet JOHNSTON SP: 2 Mar 1991 ARIZO While these 4 entries fit around the time of George's date of birth - one said he was born in Co Antrim, Ireland and the other 3 in Airth, Stirlingshire. There also appears to be some confusion over the name of the George Boyd father, who was born in Airth's. One entry said it was Robert and another said Georg. Perhaps by using the batch number, the source of these entries can be found from the LDS centre. There might even be a book written which includes this George Boyd and the author could be a Hugh Findlay which the LDS centre might be able to confirm. From those early readings, it was “generally” agreed that George and his family came from County Antrim. But the town unknown. Mr Gary Boyd Roberts of Boston, MA in 2016, told me, that “he had been told” that George came from Ballymoney, but his source had not supplied him with any data to support this “claim”. I have not been back to Ireland since I was told this information and at this time I am planning to go to the USA in late May/June in 2020 and I am not sure, when I will make my next visit to Ireland. But searching the County Antrim and more particularly, the Ballymoney records, may need to be undertaken by others of this family, to see what “records” they can look at and to make a list of those, and the results of their search so that others know, what had been researched and what still needs to be researched. While the gravestone at St. Johns, Compass, PA tell us that George was born in 1691, it does not tell us the “day” or “month” or “location” of his birth. SO, QUESTION ONE – Are these IGI entries above “our George Boyd”? As best that might be determined is that we can say they are “most likely” that he was born in Airth. Stirlingshire. But there could be other records that have not yet been put into the IGI records or yet to be made available. THE SECOND QUESTION – WAS HE BORN IN COUNTY ANTRIM OR AIRTH? From the 1994 IGI for the UK, it is known that George Boyd had a younger brother Baptised on 4 January 1694 in Airth, to the same parents as him – George Boyd and Elizabeth/Elspet Johnson. This would suggest that, if this is the same family, that George Boyd, the father, and his wife Elizabeth Johnston, did not migrate from Scotland until after 4 January 1694. And it is “thought” that George Boyd, the son, married Isabella in County Antrim in about 1709 or 1710. So, this would provide a possible window of about 15 or 16 years that this migration might have taken place. If any records of this migration can be found today? The THIRD QUESTION – ANY RECORD OF GEORGE BOYD, THE FATHER, AND ELIZABETH JOHNSTON LIVING IN COUNTY ANTRIM? Since I first went to County Antrim in 2004, I have never found any such family. However, that does not mean that there are no records of this family in Ireland – just that I have not yet found them. And if the family moved there in 1694, it would mean that George, the son, was only 3 years old. So that tell us that he is not going by himself, but would to have parents there. While if he arrived in 1709, this would make him 18 years old and may or may not have travelled with his parents. The FOURTH QUESTION – ANY GRAVES FOR GEORGE BOYD, THE FATHER, AND ELIZABETH JOHNSTON While I do have some Cemetery Records for some of the County Antrim Cemeteries, but there are still many that I do not have. I am aware of the Ulster Historical Foundation in Belfast, which produced a series of Volumes for the County Down Gravestone Inscriptions. But I have not seen any Volumes for Antrim – but I am sure that the Minister at Church of Ireland, in Ballycastle, gave me a few pages for one Volume that covered the old Church at Ballymoney. But those pages never got back to Brisbane for some reason. So, are any members of this list a member of the Ulster Historical Foundation in Belfast, Northern Ireland. And can you advise if there is a series of Volumes for County Antrim Cemeteries. Or if someone is going to Belfast next Summer in 2020, could you either join the Ulster Historical Foundation or visit their Library. (I have an idea that I may have seen this Library in the Queens University area about a decade ago, but I can’t recall if you can just walk in off the street or if it is only available to members? Does anyone know?) The Ulster Historical Foundation, maybe the best source to see if there are any records of a grave for George Boyd and Elizabeth Johnston in County Antrim or not. Or are there other records that need to be consulted? Hear, I am ASSUMING that they are in a Church of Ireland Churchyard in County Antrim? I have Dorothy Arthur’s books on the graves at St Patricks, Ballymoney, [which I assume is the C of I for Ballymoney], but that does not list any suitable candidates for their Graves. THE FIFTH QUESTION – WAS GEORGE BOYD, THE SON’S FATHER ROBERT BOYD AND NOT GEORGE BOYD? In the above list of IGI entries, the second entry shows that his father as Robert Boyd and the 4th and 5th entries show George Boyd. So, while this entry is from the Church Records, is it correct or has there been an transcription error? David Boyd of Oxfordshire, are you able to confirm this one way or the other? So, that George Boyd, the son’s father can be determined, as either GEORGE or ROBERT. And as you can see there are still many questions, with when and where George Boyd, the son, was born, yet to be determined to a higher level of satisfaction. I hope that these Questions and observations, will help those researching the place of birth of George Boyd, the son, in 1691, to be able to find some of the answers that people have been searching for, these past 25 years or more. And remember to tell the list where, and what sources you have looked at, so that others are not also looking at those same sources without any success. (I can list these research efforts at the bottom of Family Chapter 5/266, as a record of what sources have proved unfruitful.) Good Hunting. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

It would seem that the Royal Caribbean ship has not sailed on Monday evening from the port in New Zealand, due to a number of its passenger's being involved in this Volcanic eruption From the 9.30 AM TV News Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 8:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Australian in White Island Explosion in New Zealand Good morning all A little while ago, while I was having my breakfast, on the TV News it was announced that due to the volcanic eruption on New Zealand’s White Ireland, some 24 Australian were part of the 47 people visiting the island when it exploded on Monday afternoon It said that some 13 were in hospitals with server burns; 11 were missing, with at least three thought to be dead. It would seem that some US people were also part of those taking the trip, but the News gave no details. It seems that most of the people were from a cruise ship form the Royal Caribbean Lines, whom had come into a Port some miles up the Coast so people cold do day trips. One of those trips was to White Island. No names have been given as yet, as our Government and I assume other Governments try to inform relatives of what is happening. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Very dad. Heard this news in the UK. Debbie On Mon, 9 Dec 2019, 22:55 Mike Boyd, <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning all > > > > A little while ago, while I was having my breakfast, on the TV News it was > announced that due to the volcanic eruption on New Zealand’s White Ireland, > some 24 Australian were part of the 47 people visiting the island when it > exploded on Monday afternoon > > > > It said that some 13 were in hospitals with server burns; 11 were missing, > with at least three thought to be dead. > > > > It would seem that some US people were also part of those taking the trip, > but the News gave no details. > > > > It seems that most of the people were from a cruise ship form the Royal > Caribbean Lines, whom had come into a Port some miles up the Coast so > people cold do day trips. One of those trips was to White Island. > > > > No names have been given as yet, as our Government and I assume other > Governments try to inform relatives of what is happening. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane, Aust. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Good morning all A little while ago, while I was having my breakfast, on the TV News it was announced that due to the volcanic eruption on New Zealand’s White Ireland, some 24 Australian were part of the 47 people visiting the island when it exploded on Monday afternoon It said that some 13 were in hospitals with server burns; 11 were missing, with at least three thought to be dead. It would seem that some US people were also part of those taking the trip, but the News gave no details. It seems that most of the people were from a cruise ship form the Royal Caribbean Lines, whom had come into a Port some miles up the Coast so people cold do day trips. One of those trips was to White Island. No names have been given as yet, as our Government and I assume other Governments try to inform relatives of what is happening. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Good morning all It seems that each year the little town of South Boston on the Dan River in Halifax County, Virginia marks this event. This year the Crossing of the Dan 2019 Commemoration took place on Saturday 16 February. And I understand that in 2021, the 240th Anniversary, a number of some of the 40,000 descendants of the four sons of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass, will join this Commemoration to hold some sort of Boyd Re-Union. (I am not aware of whom from the Boyd side will be actually organising this Boyd event in conjunction with the 240th Anniversary.) I did visit South Boston in 2010, after I have been to the Stone Mountain Games in Georgia, and spoke to a number of the Brother’s descendants. South Boston, has their own Museum. Mainly based on the Cotton Industry, but still well worthwhile to make a “short” stop, when you are travelling either South for the Winter, or getting out of the snows in the Kentucky Mountains for Christmas to visit the seaside along the Atlantic Coast. And, if I recall, the Museum had facilities were food could be bought during your stop over, during your passing through this area of Southern Virginia. So, if you can plan a brief health break at South Boston. During the Crossing of the Dan River in 1781, I am not quite sure what the other Boyds in this area were doing. For example, there was the family of Alexander Boyd of Boydton, Mecklenburg and other Boyd families west of South Boston, VA. in Bedford and other Counties. So, over the next 14 months, it will be interesting to know, if any of these “other” southern Virginia Boyd families can make an linkage to these Halifax County Boyds. I look forward to providing more information as it comes to head. But those Boyds that live around Halifax County, may like to check out the 239th Commemorations in February 2020 and tell us what it is like, etc. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Mike, David, All, I will try to address the question of what does one have to do to get included in the Boyd DNA project: The Boyd yDNA project is hosted by Family Tree DNA (FTDNA).  To join the project you must have a valid "kit number" from FTDNA. You can obtain a kit number by purchasing a test from FTDNA or by transferring your test results from another company to the FTDNA database.  There is a cost for either approach. Once you have a kit number you log into your account and send a join request to the Boyd project.  We will always accept members with the surname Boyd. We are a surname project.  We use information from the y-chromosome to identify the relationship between Boyd's and Boyd lines.  The y-chromosome is passed from father to son as is the surname.  Females do not have a y-chromosome and therefore cannot be the person tested although we have many kits where a female is the administrator of the kit on behalf of a relative. There are two types of tests that can be taken with respect to the y-chromosome.  Short Tandem Repeat counts (STR's) identify the number of times a specific pattern repeats at a specific location.  Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNP's) represent a change in protein type at a specific location. Currently only FTDNA offers y-chromosome specific tests.  For STR testing there is a 37-marker test and a 111-marker test.  For most Boyd's we would recommend the 111-marker test to provide the resolution we need.  SNP's can be tested individually or in groups of related SNP's.  The selection of specific SNP's to be tested would only be done after other testing (for example the 111-marker test) has provided information identifying good candidates.  FTDNA also offers a very expensive test called the Big Y 700 which tests 700 STR's and many thousands of SNP's. Our "Results" web page is where we display the results of our member's STR testing.  We also use it to show related Boyd lines. After we receive your STR test results we group you in our results and work with you to identify any further testing and what the results may mean. Most testing companies these days only offer an autosomal test which covers the whole genome.  The results can be brought over to FTDNA for inclusion in their database and comparison with other autosomal test results.  However we do not use the results in the Boyd project as it is too difficult to identify how the match occurred.  A Boyd may very well match many other Boyd's but there is no reason to expect the match occurs through the patrilinear line. Bob Boyd, Boyd DNA Project Administrator On 2019-12-08 2:48 PM, Mike Boyd wrote: > Sorry folks, I hit send before I added Bob Boyd to the address list. > > Just to make sure that we all can get his advise on who to both select > an DNA company, what test to undertake and to ensure all those Boyds > that have done or will done an DNA test in the New Year become linked > to his BOYD-DNA PROJECT. > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd > Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 7:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Boyd DNA testing and comparing results > > Good morning all > > On 7 December 2019, John Boyd, had this included in his reply to the > list. > > “@David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others > reach > out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be > ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage > of the > sales, but we'll see.” > > I have recently seen from FTDNA that they had a “sale” on DNA testing, > but > as I automatically deleted it, so, I am not sure if it has finished > for this > period or not.  [Perhaps other can advise on this aspect.] > > However, being a Boyd of GOOD SCOTS STOCK, I am quite sure that > “early” in > the new year FTDNA will have another sale where you can get this done > at a > reduced price to that normally offered.  And I also assume that other DNA > companies will as well.  So compare their prices and the level of testing > required, etc > > However, I think that there are three types of DNA tests that can be > done. > From my vary limited knowledge of DNA, I would link that you need to > get all > three done, so that you can trace your male Boyd line back as far as > it can > go, but also to be able to find 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc cousins of the > females in > your family Branch. > > The other aspect that people may need to get advice on, is with which > ever > company you choose to undertake, what are the processes that will > allow you > to have your DNA compared with other Companies. > > I had one DNA test taken in 2011 at the home of the President of the > House > of Boyd Society – which I understood was with FTDNA – and I had an second > test done at Bannockburn in 2014, which I understood that the > University of > Strathclyde was also doing through FTDNA, but at no time have I > received any > message that I had one perfect match.  (This may have occurred, as I > found > out by accident earlier this year that any connections or results from my > 2011 test were going to Mrs McLachlan Email Address and not to me.) > > And the second aspect, I assume that a number of male Boyds have got DNA > testing done but have not joined the BOYD DNA Project. > > So, Bob Boyd, what do these people need to do, to have their DNA results > included in the BOYD DNA PROJECT? > > And those male Boyds that have not yet undertaken an DNA test – when you > do – please ensure also to link your results to Bob’s DNA PROJECT. > > Thank you for helping to build this knowledge about Clan Boyd members. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: John Boyd > Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 1:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Getting stuck finding the parents of William Boyd > [b. 1772 in NC, d. 1852 in Montgomery, AL] > > Good afternoon everyone, > > > @David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach > out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be > ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage > of the > sales, but we'll see. > > Thank you everyone, > John Boyd

The full mitochondrial test, "mtFull Sequence", is presently USD 139. This tracks the female line. Mother> Her Mother > Her Mother ....... The difficulty is that there's a churn of surname with each generation. The full autosomal testing, "Family Finder" is presently USD 49. This tracks all direct ancestors and far more scatter-gun when trying to match. It also not effective for looking too far back. For this test, Ancestry is best because it has a larger matching database. I have not found it that effective. I have taken the test with both providers. Thank you. David Boyd [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> Sent: 09 December 2019 19:46 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: BOYD Brick Walls - William Boyd to New Zealand from Victoria David and Steve Steve, would also need to include the DNA test that could test for any female descendants of this William Boyd, so that he could find the 3rd or 4th cousins form this William Boyd. What is the name of that test and does FTDNA also include that with its Y-DNA testing. And how much extra, does it cost to have that test included? This would allow all those Boyd Branches to develop an RESEARCH GROUP of people, whom may not be known to each other, to combine their information and to work out a plan to find new data on the family, and to work out its origins - hopefully. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: David Boyd Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: BOYD Brick Walls - William Boyd to New Zealand from Victoria .... and, of course, you could take a Y-DNA test and join the Boyd Project. This will help you identify which tested Boyds as closest to you. The Boyd clan is made up of some very distinctive sub-clans. For choice of provider you need to look at quality of testing and the opportunity to match with other Boyds. You'll find that "Family Tree DNA" has a few hundred tested Boyds and a very good provider. Thank you. David Boyd [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> Sent: 09 December 2019 03:53 _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

David and Steve Steve, would also need to include the DNA test that could test for any female descendants of this William Boyd, so that he could find the 3rd or 4th cousins form this William Boyd. What is the name of that test and does FTDNA also include that with its Y-DNA testing. And how much extra, does it cost to have that test included? This would allow all those Boyd Branches to develop an RESEARCH GROUP of people, whom may not be known to each other, to combine their information and to work out a plan to find new data on the family, and to work out its origins - hopefully. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: David Boyd Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: BOYD Brick Walls - William Boyd to New Zealand from Victoria .... and, of course, you could take a Y-DNA test and join the Boyd Project. This will help you identify which tested Boyds as closest to you. The Boyd clan is made up of some very distinctive sub-clans. For choice of provider you need to look at quality of testing and the opportunity to match with other Boyds. You'll find that "Family Tree DNA" has a few hundred tested Boyds and a very good provider. Thank you. David Boyd [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> Sent: 09 December 2019 03:53

To be clear: For us male Boyds it's the Y-DNA test that is important. The 111 marker version is best. Presently it's on offer at 199 US Dollars. Then there's the all-important Boyd Project to join. Thank you. David Boyd [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> Sent: 08 December 2019 21:48 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Fw: Boyd DNA testing and comparing results Sorry folks, I hit send before I added Bob Boyd to the address list. Just to make sure that we all can get his advise on who to both select an DNA company, what test to undertake and to ensure all those Boyds that have done or will done an DNA test in the New Year become linked to his BOYD-DNA PROJECT. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 7:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Boyd DNA testing and comparing results Good morning all On 7 December 2019, John Boyd, had this included in his reply to the list. “@David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage of the sales, but we'll see.” I have recently seen from FTDNA that they had a “sale” on DNA testing, but as I automatically deleted it, so, I am not sure if it has finished for this period or not. [Perhaps other can advise on this aspect.] However, being a Boyd of GOOD SCOTS STOCK, I am quite sure that “early” in the new year FTDNA will have another sale where you can get this done at a reduced price to that normally offered. And I also assume that other DNA companies will as well. So compare their prices and the level of testing required, etc However, I think that there are three types of DNA tests that can be done. From my vary limited knowledge of DNA, I would link that you need to get all three done, so that you can trace your male Boyd line back as far as it can go, but also to be able to find 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc cousins of the females in your family Branch. The other aspect that people may need to get advice on, is with which ever company you choose to undertake, what are the processes that will allow you to have your DNA compared with other Companies. I had one DNA test taken in 2011 at the home of the President of the House of Boyd Society – which I understood was with FTDNA – and I had an second test done at Bannockburn in 2014, which I understood that the University of Strathclyde was also doing through FTDNA, but at no time have I received any message that I had one perfect match. (This may have occurred, as I found out by accident earlier this year that any connections or results from my 2011 test were going to Mrs McLachlan Email Address and not to me.) And the second aspect, I assume that a number of male Boyds have got DNA testing done but have not joined the BOYD DNA Project. So, Bob Boyd, what do these people need to do, to have their DNA results included in the BOYD DNA PROJECT? And those male Boyds that have not yet undertaken an DNA test – when you do – please ensure also to link your results to Bob’s DNA PROJECT. Thank you for helping to build this knowledge about Clan Boyd members. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: John Boyd Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Getting stuck finding the parents of William Boyd [b. 1772 in NC, d. 1852 in Montgomery, AL] Good afternoon everyone, @David, thank you for mentioning FTDNA. I've had a couple of others reach out to me about this Boyd FTDNA Y-DNA Project, and will definitely be ordering the Y-111 test before too long. I'm hoping to take advantage of the sales, but we'll see. Thank you everyone, John Boyd _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

.... and, of course, you could take a Y-DNA test and join the Boyd Project. This will help you identify which tested Boyds as closest to you. The Boyd clan is made up of some very distinctive sub-clans. For choice of provider you need to look at quality of testing and the opportunity to match with other Boyds. You'll find that "Family Tree DNA" has a few hundred tested Boyds and a very good provider. Thank you. David Boyd [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> Sent: 09 December 2019 03:53 To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: BOYD Brick Walls - William Boyd to New Zealand from Victoria Steve a nice problem 1. From Australian records, do you know his full name - ie his middle name? 2. I can only assume that you have or know the location of the rest of the family in Victoria. 3. It would be worth checking with your State Library in Melbourne to see if they have either the hard copies or if those Federal election rolls are now online form about 1903, to see if you can find when he "left" home. And hopefully, it will tell you what occupation he was, as that may suggest if he moved to another area of Victoria before migrating to New Zealand. 4. There is a another Directory, either the Sands or Post Office Directory, that use to come out annually from the 1850's, well into the 1900's. AS it is over 25 years since I looked at one, I am not sure if just listed the head of the household for the address, or all people living there. If you are not familiar with it I am sure that Library will be able to advise your. 5. Hopefully, through both of these you will get an Window of a time period to know when he may have gone to NZ. 6. With his full name and a location, it may also be worth while, checking the TROVE system at the Australian National Library. If you are not familiar with it, I assume your local Library at Melton, should be able to guide you through searching that system. Hear I am assuming that the local Newspaper in the Country town they lived at would have written up a story about his leaving, etc, and PERHAPS WHERE IN NEW ZEALAND HE WAS MOVING TO? Good hunting and hopefully this tips are useful Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Boyd Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: BOYD Brick Walls Hello listers Another brick wall. My Grand Uncle William Boyd was born 1869 in Stockyard Hill, Victoria, Australia. His parents were James Boyd (1833-1903) and Sarah Kirk (1843-1882). He emigrated to New Zealand. I have no idea when, or where he went. I have checked the shipping records between Aus & NZ but there are THOUSANDS (OK maybe not thousands, but lots) of Williams. He had no other names to help narrow the search. Since I don't know a date or landing location I have no way to track him. He is mentioned in his elder brothers newspaper obit. in 1942 as "Brother... William, New Zealand", so he was still alive during the 2nd World War. So my appeal is to anyone who has connections in or information of Boyds in NZ who might shed some light on this missing relative. Steve Boyd Melton, Victoria, Australia _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Steve a nice problem 1. From Australian records, do you know his full name - ie his middle name? 2. I can only assume that you have or know the location of the rest of the family in Victoria. 3. It would be worth checking with your State Library in Melbourne to see if they have either the hard copies or if those Federal election rolls are now online form about 1903, to see if you can find when he "left" home. And hopefully, it will tell you what occupation he was, as that may suggest if he moved to another area of Victoria before migrating to New Zealand. 4. There is a another Directory, either the Sands or Post Office Directory, that use to come out annually from the 1850's, well into the 1900's. AS it is over 25 years since I looked at one, I am not sure if just listed the head of the household for the address, or all people living there. If you are not familiar with it I am sure that Library will be able to advise your. 5. Hopefully, through both of these you will get an Window of a time period to know when he may have gone to NZ. 6. With his full name and a location, it may also be worth while, checking the TROVE system at the Australian National Library. If you are not familiar with it, I assume your local Library at Melton, should be able to guide you through searching that system. Hear I am assuming that the local Newspaper in the Country town they lived at would have written up a story about his leaving, etc, and PERHAPS WHERE IN NEW ZEALAND HE WAS MOVING TO? Good hunting and hopefully this tips are useful Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Boyd Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: BOYD Brick Walls Hello listers Another brick wall. My Grand Uncle William Boyd was born 1869 in Stockyard Hill, Victoria, Australia. His parents were James Boyd (1833-1903) and Sarah Kirk (1843-1882). He emigrated to New Zealand. I have no idea when, or where he went. I have checked the shipping records between Aus & NZ but there are THOUSANDS (OK maybe not thousands, but lots) of Williams. He had no other names to help narrow the search. Since I don't know a date or landing location I have no way to track him. He is mentioned in his elder brothers newspaper obit. in 1942 as "Brother... William, New Zealand", so he was still alive during the 2nd World War. So my appeal is to anyone who has connections in or information of Boyds in NZ who might shed some light on this missing relative. Steve Boyd Melton, Victoria, Australia _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community