All that would depend on where in Spain a ship’s crew was recruited. More than half of Spain 500 years ago were descended from the waves of Baltic invaders during the late Roman Empire. Vandals, Goths, Visigoths, and so on. Two waves of such invasions landed in North Africa, from which the Berber tribe (often red-haired and blue eyed) descend. Some of the Armada ships had the poor luck to fall among island communities whose folk engaged in “ship-breaking,” that is, who lit misleading lights at night to lure ships onto the rocks where they would be stripped for plunder. Survivors were not encouraged. One needs to keep a sense of humor. When the Red Cross phlebotomist asks me if I have Hispanic ancestry, I often say “Something happened to all those Armada sailors…”. It lightens up a very dull routine. > On Dec 16, 2019, at 4:05 AM, David Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > David Boyd-Hall and I are connected and I have often pondered why we have > the "Aftrican" haplogroup A. > > I did ponder the following: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girona_(ship) > Then: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorley_Boy_MacDonnell > > Did we get the surname from our saviour's middle name Somhairle Buidhe Mac > Domhnaill? > > Pure speculation that got me nowhere! > > Thank you. > > David Boyd > > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> > Sent: 16 December 2019 08:29 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family > > Dave > > My "understand" of the Term "Black Scots" - and it also applies to the Iris > as well. > > After the Spanish Armada were defeated in the English Channel, those ships > that survived sailed north into the North Sea and planned to then sail out > into the Atlantic and returned to Spain. > > One small problem, they did not know about the Gulf Stream, form Cuba. > > So when they thought they were far enough out to miss the west coast of > Scotland and Ireland, they soon discovered they were on the west coast of > both Counties. I know one ran aground near the Giant Causeway in County > Antrim and another at Portencross in Ayrshire (That Captain was well and > truly lost.) > > However, a number of the seamen did get ashore and both the local Scots and > Irish offered them shelter and hospitality. And it seems that hospitality - > how do you say - Liberties were taken. Thus resulting in dark skinned > babies. > > I was told this story when I was at primary school, so those from both > Scotland and Ireland, many have a different version of "Black Scots" or > "Black Irish". > > I am not quite sure where in Scotland and Ireland all these various Spanish > Armada ships may have come aground? > > But in western Scotland, there were the Boyds of Ardgour, Argyllshire whom > seem to have been there since about 1430. So, a branch could have been > living at Mallaig, or even on the Isle of Skye in 1588 and at some time > migrated to Airth, Stirlingshire, in the 1600's. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 10:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family > > Mike thank you. > > The first thing I learned from my mother only a few years ago was that my > fathers father was not an Ellis and as near as she could recall she thought > his name might be Boyd. He and his wife Nancy Josephine Higgins had > divorced and she had remarried a Franklin Ellis and had all the children > change their names to Ellis. She only knew that my grandfather Tom was a > very happy man with a good heart. He had at one time told her he was Black > Scots. Whatever that might be I am sure I have no idea. > > Kind regards > David Boyd-Hall > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm > the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Bruce P. Shields 6405 Garfield Rd Hyde Park VT 05655 (802) 888 5165 [email protected]

David Boyd-Hall and I are connected and I have often pondered why we have the "Aftrican" haplogroup A. I did ponder the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girona_(ship) Then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorley_Boy_MacDonnell Did we get the surname from our saviour's middle name Somhairle Buidhe Mac Domhnaill? Pure speculation that got me nowhere! Thank you. David Boyd [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> Sent: 16 December 2019 08:29 To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family Dave My "understand" of the Term "Black Scots" - and it also applies to the Iris as well. After the Spanish Armada were defeated in the English Channel, those ships that survived sailed north into the North Sea and planned to then sail out into the Atlantic and returned to Spain. One small problem, they did not know about the Gulf Stream, form Cuba. So when they thought they were far enough out to miss the west coast of Scotland and Ireland, they soon discovered they were on the west coast of both Counties. I know one ran aground near the Giant Causeway in County Antrim and another at Portencross in Ayrshire (That Captain was well and truly lost.) However, a number of the seamen did get ashore and both the local Scots and Irish offered them shelter and hospitality. And it seems that hospitality - how do you say - Liberties were taken. Thus resulting in dark skinned babies. I was told this story when I was at primary school, so those from both Scotland and Ireland, many have a different version of "Black Scots" or "Black Irish". I am not quite sure where in Scotland and Ireland all these various Spanish Armada ships may have come aground? But in western Scotland, there were the Boyds of Ardgour, Argyllshire whom seem to have been there since about 1430. So, a branch could have been living at Mallaig, or even on the Isle of Skye in 1588 and at some time migrated to Airth, Stirlingshire, in the 1600's. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 10:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family Mike thank you. The first thing I learned from my mother only a few years ago was that my fathers father was not an Ellis and as near as she could recall she thought his name might be Boyd. He and his wife Nancy Josephine Higgins had divorced and she had remarried a Franklin Ellis and had all the children change their names to Ellis. She only knew that my grandfather Tom was a very happy man with a good heart. He had at one time told her he was Black Scots. Whatever that might be I am sure I have no idea. Kind regards David Boyd-Hall Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dave My "understand" of the Term "Black Scots" - and it also applies to the Iris as well. After the Spanish Armada were defeated in the English Channel, those ships that survived sailed north into the North Sea and planned to then sail out into the Atlantic and returned to Spain. One small problem, they did not know about the Gulf Stream, form Cuba. So when they thought they were far enough out to miss the west coast of Scotland and Ireland, they soon discovered they were on the west coast of both Counties. I know one ran aground near the Giant Causeway in County Antrim and another at Portencross in Ayrshire (That Captain was well and truly lost.) However, a number of the seamen did get ashore and both the local Scots and Irish offered them shelter and hospitality. And it seems that hospitality - how do you say - Liberties were taken. Thus resulting in dark skinned babies. I was told this story when I was at primary school, so those from both Scotland and Ireland, many have a different version of "Black Scots" or "Black Irish". I am not quite sure where in Scotland and Ireland all these various Spanish Armada ships may have come aground? But in western Scotland, there were the Boyds of Ardgour, Argyllshire whom seem to have been there since about 1430. So, a branch could have been living at Mallaig, or even on the Isle of Skye in 1588 and at some time migrated to Airth, Stirlingshire, in the 1600's. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 10:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family Mike thank you. The first thing I learned from my mother only a few years ago was that my fathers father was not an Ellis and as near as she could recall she thought his name might be Boyd. He and his wife Nancy Josephine Higgins had divorced and she had remarried a Franklin Ellis and had all the children change their names to Ellis. She only knew that my grandfather Tom was a very happy man with a good heart. He had at one time told her he was Black Scots. Whatever that might be I am sure I have no idea. Kind regards David Boyd-Hall Sent from my iPhone

These are two sources that John Polk, of MD, has provided advice on this family. The Second website is the whole book of Earnest S. Craighead, 1940. I have not yet looked at Bill MacAfee's website to see what it may contain, that can add to this discussion of the John Boyd and Mary Fulton. In 1740 Abraham Fulton, was back at Articlave, as he had a letter from the First Dunboe Presbyterian Church. I also noticed that in the mid 1600's one of his ancestors had been minister of Articlave, but was removed or killed in those conflicts. (The fist few pages, about 5 to 7 Cites two works, one based on Woodrow's with extra comments on those Ministers that were "removed" from their Churches. So these pages may also be worth reading?) Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: john polk Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] Re: List of Protestant Householders Anno 1740 for Parish of Dunboe – Village of Articlave, County Londonderry (Part 1) Mike - I would refer you to the Bill MacAfee's wonderful website at http://www.billmacafee.com/ You will find the Antrim and Londonderry parts of the 1740 Protestant Landholders List there in both Excel and PDF format which you can download. It has Boyds and Fultons listed from Dunboe Parish but it appears to differ somewhat from the names that you cite from the Fulton book. MacAfee's database has only 3 Boyds from Dunboe, but many more from Coleraine and Liberties of Coleraine, County Londonderry. Many other Boyds listed there from other parishes. Two Guthries from Dunboe. The Fulton book is online at Archive.org - https://archive.org/stream/fultonfamilyofwe00crai/fultonfamilyofwe00crai_djvu.txt Good luck - John Polk Maryland USA -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 6:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-ANTRIM] List of Protestant Householders Anno 1740 for Parish of Dunboe – Village of Articlave, County Londonderry (Part 1)

Mike, Whoever compiled that list wasn't paying attention. Only 3 Boyds are in Dunboe Parish in the 1740 Protestant Householders Returns- Benjamin, David, John. Only 2 Fultons- Robert, John. The only Abraham Fulton is in Keenaght Barony, Parish Balteagh, Terrydoo Townland with another John Fulton. The only Boyd in that Parish, unknown Townland is Joseph Boyd. Do you recall the large mountain (Ireland style) just east of Limavady town? Terrydoo is on the banks of the to the south. So they had easy access to Limavady (large Boyd presence), but much harder going over the mountain and then farther north to get to Articlave. There are 5 Robert Guthrie's. Interestingly, one is in Dunboe Parish. Another is in Tamlaght Finlagan, but that family is on the shoreline of Lough Foyle. Clearly, the story needs a little more modern research. I do not have Articlave church records with me. -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected]

For what it is worth — Encyclopedia Britannica 10th Edition (the last edition where articles were signed by individual researchers) 1910 has two essays on Gurney. The family were Norfolk/ Suffolk nobility some members of which were traders, very deeply involved in the Quaker movement (and hence potentially connected to Willaim Penn). In the 1770’s, several of the family founded a bank which quickly specialized in “discounted notes,” that is, they would loan money to other banks and merchants for very short terms, possibly even overnight. The business grew by leaps and bounds. This function is now in the US absorbed by the Federal Reserve Discount Window, though other institutions also participate in the “Repo Market.” The names Henry, John, Bartlett, and Samuel occur. The second is probably not relevant, as Edmund Gurney was born 1853 and remained in England his whole life. He was a professor of what would now be called psychology, specializing in paranormal experiences. > On Dec 14, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Good morning list > > > > On 25 November 2019, I got a query from Mike Curtiss of the USA about the Boyd family of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy, in eastern County Tyrone, between Cookstown and Dungannon, Ireland. > > > > In this query he cites the publication “The Wier-Creeckmore Genealogy”, by Sarah Elizabeth Creekmore Wallace, 1944, which on page 21 says – > > > > “Samuel Boyd was rick and his second wife, Lady Gurney, belong to the nobility of Scotland.” > > > > I think that I may have been told this a few decades ago, but this morning as I re-read his query to answer it, it got me thinking as to what research had been done on this “claim” that he had married “Lady Gurney”. > > > > Dr Google, tells us that Clan Gurney were a Quaker family from Norwich, England and were Anglo-Norman and that their Seat after the 1066 invasion was in Somerset, England. But I could not find any link telling me that part of this family moved to Scotland or not. Although Gurney does “sound” Scottish. > > > > 1. Has anyone researched for any references in County Tyrone to see if there was a Lord Gurney, or even in Ulster in Ireland? Or she may stem from an Laird Gurney, who has migrated to Ireland and sometimes their family members are called “Lady”. > > > > 2. I have not come across any Lord Gurney in the Scottish Peerage, but I have not been looking for it either. So, does anyone have access the Burke’s Peerage or Debrett’s Peerage to see if this family can be found in Scotland? (Although, Lady Jane Gurney, if she married without approval, could have bene written out of the family as a result of this marriage.) > > > > 3. From my limited understanding, when a “lady” is referred to as “Lady Gurney”, it would suggest she is the daughter of an Earl or a higher honour. And I have no idea the Gurney family hold such titles or not. > > > > 4. From the dates of four known children of Samuel Boyd and Lady Gurney, it would suggest that they married about 1756 or 1757, but there is no indication if this was in County Tyrone, Scotland or even in Dublin, Ireland or perhaps in her home town in Ireland. > > > > 5. My understanding is that Samuel was a Presbyterian and if Lady Gurney” came from an Quaker family and married outside the Quaker Church, she would be disowned by the Church and there would be a record of this in the 1750’s. So, has anyone looked at those Quaker records? (When I looked at the PRONI Office in Belfast, at these Quaker Records, were all hand written and I am not sure if they are any “printed” records for Quaker meeting records to make the search that much easier or have been transcribed and put online.) > > > > 6. I think that the Belfast “Newsletter” newspaper may have already started to be published by the 1750’s? So, has anyone looked at those records in the Newspaper Library in Belfast? They used to have a Card System – but I am not sure if that has now been put online, so people can search it? Or if you Emailed them, they could do a quick look for Samuel Boyd’s marriage in the 1750’s to “Lady Gurney” or any marriage. Hear I am assuming that if the statement is correct that Samuel had some wealth, his marriage would be “recorded” in some Newspaper or Publication of the period. > > > > 7. I am not familiar with what County Tyrone sources are available, such as the Protestant Householders Anno 1740 (if these records exist for this part of County Tyrone); Census in the 1700’s; Church records, or even histories of Churches in the Knockavaddy area. > > > > And are there other sources of data in 1700’s that should be looked at to see if any data can be found on this Samuel Boyd. > > > > In the website – > > > > Samuel Boyd (1718-1804) - Find A Grave Memorial > www.findagrave.com/memorial/187527247/samuel-boyd > > William Hamilton (1757-1827) of Virginia and Lincoln County, Kentucky, may have been a close relative as his descendants are a close YDNA match to descendants of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy. See Find A Grave Memorial# 64654437. Samuel Boyd "of Knockavaddy." His wife (or second wife) was Lady Gurney. > > > > It mentions that the Boyd house was built around 1690. Thus, suggesting that Samuel’s father built the house and that this may be due to his father getting an “new grant”; “new lease” or “land title” after the Battle of the Boyne, when people were encouraged to return Ireland. So, could any of those records be found today? > > > > It also mentioned “Samuel Boyd and wife Lady Gurney are believed to be buried at Carland Presbyterian Churchyard. The Boyds were members of Carland Church in the 1760s-80s but later joined Sandholes Church.” > > > This would suggest that no grave can be seen in modern times or now exists to be seen. So, have descendants searched both Churchyards and what was the result of that search? > > > > Hear I would assume that Samuel Boyd is also buried with Lady Jane Gurney in the same cemetery. > > > > I am also assuming that as the sons William Boyd (1804) and James Boyd (1795); and perhaps Samuel Boyd have come to the USA, that there were children born to Samuel’s first marriage. This is partly borne out by the list of Boyd in the Title Tax list for County Tyrone in the 1820’s – which I will post as a separate message, after this. > > > > Can any further sources be added and or have you undertaken research in County Tyrone on this family? > > > > I also noticed that on a number of the websites, that this Samuel Boyd born in 1718, is still given as the son of Captain James Boyd, the fourth child of William Boyd, first Earl of Kilmarnock. The Earl’s son died before May 1702, and had his funeral at Paisley Abbey, Renfrewshire in about 18 May 1702, and was buried in the Lenzie Kirk the same day. There was no wife or children in the funeral invitation sent to the Maxwell family. > > > > I can only assume that his father is an “JAMES BOYD” but bit the son of the first Earl of Kilmarnock, William Boyd. > > > > Thank you for your assistance on finding out more about this family of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy. And if you are on any of the spouse net spouse net list or on the County Tyrone rootsweb.com net list, feel free to post this message to those sites as well. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane, Aust. > > (CB18078.doc) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Bruce P. Shields 6405 Garfield Rd Hyde Park VT 05655 (802) 888 5165 [email protected]

Good morning all In my previous message about what is known n the family of Samuel Boyd, whom it is said to have married a second time to Lady Jane Gurney, in Ireland – I have made the suggestion that as it appears that their children have migrated to the USA, and that as the Tithe Tax List of 1820’s still showed Boyds at Knockavaddy and the Parish, it is likely that Samuel had a family be his unknown first wife This is an list of those Boyds in the Parish of Desertcreat. THE BOYD NAME IN COUNTY TYRONE TITHES SURNAME C. NAME TOWNLAND PARISH Boyd Wm. Moree Desertcreat Boyd Thos. Drumballihugh Desertcreat Boyd Wm. Sessagh Scott Desertcreat Boyd Edwd. Tullilagan Desertcreat Boyd Jno. Annaghavill Desertcreat Boyd Edwd Tolvins Desertcreat Boyd Wm. Knockavaddy's Desertcreat Boyd Jas. Sen. Knockavaddy's Desertcreat Boyd Jas. Waterard Desertcreat Boyd Jas. Warerard Desertcreat Boyd Jas. Jun. Knockavaddy's Desertcreat Boyd Jas. Jun. Sessagh Scott Desertcreat Boyd James Allen Desertcreat Boyd Jas. Sen. Monegaragh Desertcreat Boyd Thomas Allen Desertcreat Boyd Willm Monegaragh Desertcreat So, the first question is could the three Knockavaddy entries be either the children of Samuel’s first marriage or his grandchildren? And how many of these 16 Boyd entries for the Parish of Desertcreat, could be related to the Boyd whom in 1690 built the Boyd house. (It is my understanding that a Boyd family lived in this house until a few decades ago.) And finally, has anyone been able to “trace” any of these 16 entries back in time? And where do they connect? And is there any links to the “first” family of this Samuel Boyd (1718 – 1804). Thank you for your assistance in expanding these entries Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. [CB18078.doc]

Good morning list On 25 November 2019, I got a query from Mike Curtiss of the USA about the Boyd family of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy, in eastern County Tyrone, between Cookstown and Dungannon, Ireland. In this query he cites the publication “The Wier-Creeckmore Genealogy”, by Sarah Elizabeth Creekmore Wallace, 1944, which on page 21 says – “Samuel Boyd was rick and his second wife, Lady Gurney, belong to the nobility of Scotland.” I think that I may have been told this a few decades ago, but this morning as I re-read his query to answer it, it got me thinking as to what research had been done on this “claim” that he had married “Lady Gurney”. Dr Google, tells us that Clan Gurney were a Quaker family from Norwich, England and were Anglo-Norman and that their Seat after the 1066 invasion was in Somerset, England. But I could not find any link telling me that part of this family moved to Scotland or not. Although Gurney does “sound” Scottish. 1. Has anyone researched for any references in County Tyrone to see if there was a Lord Gurney, or even in Ulster in Ireland? Or she may stem from an Laird Gurney, who has migrated to Ireland and sometimes their family members are called “Lady”. 2. I have not come across any Lord Gurney in the Scottish Peerage, but I have not been looking for it either. So, does anyone have access the Burke’s Peerage or Debrett’s Peerage to see if this family can be found in Scotland? (Although, Lady Jane Gurney, if she married without approval, could have bene written out of the family as a result of this marriage.) 3. From my limited understanding, when a “lady” is referred to as “Lady Gurney”, it would suggest she is the daughter of an Earl or a higher honour. And I have no idea the Gurney family hold such titles or not. 4. From the dates of four known children of Samuel Boyd and Lady Gurney, it would suggest that they married about 1756 or 1757, but there is no indication if this was in County Tyrone, Scotland or even in Dublin, Ireland or perhaps in her home town in Ireland. 5. My understanding is that Samuel was a Presbyterian and if Lady Gurney” came from an Quaker family and married outside the Quaker Church, she would be disowned by the Church and there would be a record of this in the 1750’s. So, has anyone looked at those Quaker records? (When I looked at the PRONI Office in Belfast, at these Quaker Records, were all hand written and I am not sure if they are any “printed” records for Quaker meeting records to make the search that much easier or have been transcribed and put online.) 6. I think that the Belfast “Newsletter” newspaper may have already started to be published by the 1750’s? So, has anyone looked at those records in the Newspaper Library in Belfast? They used to have a Card System – but I am not sure if that has now been put online, so people can search it? Or if you Emailed them, they could do a quick look for Samuel Boyd’s marriage in the 1750’s to “Lady Gurney” or any marriage. Hear I am assuming that if the statement is correct that Samuel had some wealth, his marriage would be “recorded” in some Newspaper or Publication of the period. 7. I am not familiar with what County Tyrone sources are available, such as the Protestant Householders Anno 1740 (if these records exist for this part of County Tyrone); Census in the 1700’s; Church records, or even histories of Churches in the Knockavaddy area. And are there other sources of data in 1700’s that should be looked at to see if any data can be found on this Samuel Boyd. In the website – Samuel Boyd (1718-1804) - Find A Grave Memorial www.findagrave.com/memorial/187527247/samuel-boyd William Hamilton (1757-1827) of Virginia and Lincoln County, Kentucky, may have been a close relative as his descendants are a close YDNA match to descendants of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy. See Find A Grave Memorial# 64654437. Samuel Boyd "of Knockavaddy." His wife (or second wife) was Lady Gurney. It mentions that the Boyd house was built around 1690. Thus, suggesting that Samuel’s father built the house and that this may be due to his father getting an “new grant”; “new lease” or “land title” after the Battle of the Boyne, when people were encouraged to return Ireland. So, could any of those records be found today? It also mentioned “Samuel Boyd and wife Lady Gurney are believed to be buried at Carland Presbyterian Churchyard. The Boyds were members of Carland Church in the 1760s-80s but later joined Sandholes Church.” This would suggest that no grave can be seen in modern times or now exists to be seen. So, have descendants searched both Churchyards and what was the result of that search? Hear I would assume that Samuel Boyd is also buried with Lady Jane Gurney in the same cemetery. I am also assuming that as the sons William Boyd (1804) and James Boyd (1795); and perhaps Samuel Boyd have come to the USA, that there were children born to Samuel’s first marriage. This is partly borne out by the list of Boyd in the Title Tax list for County Tyrone in the 1820’s – which I will post as a separate message, after this. Can any further sources be added and or have you undertaken research in County Tyrone on this family? I also noticed that on a number of the websites, that this Samuel Boyd born in 1718, is still given as the son of Captain James Boyd, the fourth child of William Boyd, first Earl of Kilmarnock. The Earl’s son died before May 1702, and had his funeral at Paisley Abbey, Renfrewshire in about 18 May 1702, and was buried in the Lenzie Kirk the same day. There was no wife or children in the funeral invitation sent to the Maxwell family. I can only assume that his father is an “JAMES BOYD” but bit the son of the first Earl of Kilmarnock, William Boyd. Thank you for your assistance on finding out more about this family of Samuel Boyd of Knockavaddy. And if you are on any of the spouse net spouse net list or on the County Tyrone rootsweb.com net list, feel free to post this message to those sites as well. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. (CB18078.doc)

In the late 1990’s I wrote these notes on this family – “[5] It appears that the Boyd's and Fulton's left Ireland on the ship General Wolfe, Captain Hunter, from Londonderry, Ireland which sailed on 25 June 1772 and arrived on 16 October 1772 at Hampton Roads, VA. - The New York Journal, 29 Oct. 1772 said "This ship it is said had been seventeen weeks on the passage, nearly half the time at short allowance, came out with 300 of whom about 80 died at sea of mere want and the disorders arising from it, in drinking salt water, etc. Part of the time the allowance was half a biscuit and half a pint of water a day." - "About 50 passengers left the ship near the Capes and went off to Baltimore in Maryland." - [Fulton tradition said that Abraham Fulton and family were among this 50.] Does that include John (T1) and Mary? - "80 of them were the same afternoon landed at Hampton mere skeletons, so weak that they could hardly walk or stand, and most of them without any money for their support. The inhabitants charitably took care of them and supplied them with necessities, " [WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REMAINING 90?] [6] From the Fulton Web Page it said all the family of Abraham and Margaret Fulton came on the General Wolfe. I would estimate this would be:- - Abraham and Margaret Fulton - their 9 children born between 1747-1759 of which Mary Fulton and John Boyd had 2 children by 1772. [NEED TO ASK FULTON'S HOW MANY OTHER GRANDCHILDREN CAME ON TRIP?] - ESTIMATE GROUP WAS 14 people in total. [7] From the Email by AQUILLAHE of 1 December 1998 said "When Abraham Boyd arrived with his family at the port of Londonderry, Ireland to set sail for America, the ship's captain flatly refused to let the hugh tribe of Boyds set sail. They were instead put into quarantine because young Abraham and his brother John had smallpox. While waiting out the period, the Boyds learned that the ship they originally were to have sailed on foundered at sea with loss of all lives onboard. "Among the considerable family group, really a Fulton migration, was Abraham's (U2) father John (T1), his wife Mary Fulton Boyd and her entire family of parents, brothers and sisters." - Abraham was about 18 months old when the ship sailed from Londonderry which is not how the above quotation might be read ie that Abraham Boyd brought his parents across the Atlantic. - [CAN THE QUARANTINE LIST FOR JUNE 1772 LONDONDERRY BE FOUND? OR DID IT EVER EXIST?] [8] The term "the hugh tribe of Boyds" in point 7 does not ring true. There were only 4 Boyd's as part of the Fulton's. Even for the current time 4 people would not be regarded as a hugh number, especially when families of this period were often consisted of 10 or more children. This would suggest possible other Boyds were in this party in Quarantine and on the shipping list for the General Wolfe. - could this mean that John Boyd's (T1) parents and their children (and possibly grandchildren) where in this "hugh tribe." Perhaps John father might have been friends with Abraham Fulton and the 2 families decided to move to America. The other possibility is that there was a group of Presbyterian Boyd's from this area who decided to go with the Fulton's to America. I have Boyd families from Macosquin, Aghadowey and Ballymoney, all within 10 km of Coleraine. - is there an immigration list available for October 1772 for Baltimore, MD, or were no records kept? [9] From the Fulton Web Page, p 7 it has the following on how and where the Fulton's settled in Westmoreland Co. PA but it does not say where the Fultons lived after they landed at Baltimore, MD or when this journey took place. [Mike Boyd - I would assume that John Boyd and Mary Fulton were also part of this migration. Are there any records from cemetery to confirm Boyd's who are buried there?] (FFL 89:73) "JOURNEY ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS The journey across the mountains must have been most arduous and perilous. The only means of locomotion was on foot or by horseback. The only road was that created by the soldiers of General Forbe's or General Braddock's armies a few years before, a mere mountain trail and now roughly the course of the Lincoln Highway (U.S. 30) and the National Highway (U.S.40). FULTON FAMILY ON WESTERN SIDE OF MOUNTAINS. The Treaty of Peace, closing the French and Indian conflict, had scarcely been signed, assurance given that the Western woods were really British lands, then a tide of men swept down from the East to occupy the broad, beautiful acres open to settlement. ...The Fulton Family located in the Sewickley Settlement near the Big Sewickley Creek in what is now called South Huntingdon Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. In this region they lived the lives of frontier pioneers, farmed, raised numerous offspring, served their newly adopted country in the Revolutionary War, went to church in crude log structures, died, and are buried in the old country graveyards which endure to this day." [10] Need to get list of other Boyd's buried at Bull Creek Church from Kim Wetzel” Some, years ago, I was told that this family settled at “Derry Westmoreland County, PA”. Is that the same place as Sewickley Settlement near the Big Sewickley Creek in what is now called South Huntingdon Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania? (I do not have any local knowledge of this USA County.) From the above comments, it seems quite clear, that both the Fulton’s and John Boyd and his family were planning to go to Pittsburgh area of Western Pennsylvania. And was this “another” planned migration from Ulster, like Rev William Martin’s five ships to Charleston, SC also in 1772? In my trip to Ireland since 2004, I have not come across the “List of Protestant Householders for Anno 1740”. I am aware that some of these records were destroyed in 1922, but there are still parts available. I think in PRONI in Belfast and Dublin? 1) Has anyone make a list of Boyd’s for this “List”? 2) Has anyone “researched these ten Boyd families of Articlave in County Londonderry, Ireland. (With two Ben Boyd’s, I can only assume that they are not all brothers, but could be cousins or even more distant than that in relationship.) And when did these Boyds ancestors come to Articlave? 3) With John Boyd and Mary Fulton’s first son being called John Boyd, could John Boyd, the father’s, own father be the “Jn. Boyd” based on the naming pattern, commonly used by Scottish families. 4) Are there any “histories” of this area that may provide more details about the pre 1740 settlements? 5) Are any details known about “the Boyds learned that the ship they originally were to have sailed on foundered at sea with loss of all lives onboard” – which they were supposed to sail on from Londonderry (port) but could not because the children had “smallpox”. And is there any record of the people that sailed on it? And could some of those be some of the Boyds and Fultons (and other families) from Articlave? 6) And after the Fulton and Boyds settled in Westmoreland County, PA, did other families from Articlave follow their migration to Westmoreland County, PA? I assume that there are other questions that can and should be asked about these Fulton, Guttery (Guthrie), and Boyd families of Articlave. If you are member of the Fulton, Guthrie named ROOTSWEB.COM net list or the Westmoreland County, PA net list feel free to post this article to those sites can use this information. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. [Folder 16A #4B

Good morning all List of Protestant Householders Anno 1740 for Parish of Dunboe – Village of Articlave, County Londnderry For over 25 years, I have been aware of the family of John Boyd and Mary Fulton, the daughter of Abraham Fulton and Margaret Guthrie/Guthrey, and their descendants. And the various Boyd researchers have told us that the Fulton’s came from Articlave, about 6 kms NW of Coleraine, County Londonderry. But in all this time, I had assumed that this John Boyd had come from the town of Coleraine or the area east of the Bann River. In my trip to the USA in 2016, I stopped of in Boston, MA and went to the NEHGS and to their Central Library nearby, in my role as Chairman of the Historical Committee, of the House of Boyd Society, where I found the book, The Fulton Family of Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania 1712 – 1772 – 1940, An account of the descendants of Abraham Fulton and Margret Guthry, his wife, who emigrated form Articlave, Londonderry County, Ireland in 1772 and settled in Westmoreland County, PA, Earnest S. Craighead, 1940, page 9 it says - “A list of Protestant Householders Anno 1740, in Londonderry County (From records in possession of the Presbyterian Historical Society, Presbyterian Church House, Belfast, Ireland *) contains the following entries under “Parish – Dunboe; Barony – Colrane; County – Derry; [As written] (*This Society is now near Queens University – address unknown. I think it was in about 2013 that I last visited this Society and I can’t recall the Street name.) 1. Henry Fulton 2. Robert Fulton 3. Rob’t Guttery 4. Ben Boyd 5. J. Fulton 6. Jn. Boyd 7. Dav’d Boyd 8. Thos. Boyd 9. Chas. Boyd 10. Eliz’th Boyd 11. Ben Boyd 12. Rich’s Boyd 13. Wido Boyd 14. Wm. Fulton 15. Wm. Boyd 16. Rob’t Fulton. [As I have never seen these records, I can only assume that these are written, as they appear in the PRIMARY DOCUMENT at the Presbyterian Historical Society. Nor am I certain if the above 16 names are the full list of those that occur under the “First Dumboe” in Dumboe Parish in this 1740 list of Protestant Householders.] Although, it appears that Abraham Fulton, was born about 1712, from the title of the book above, his name does not appear, with the other five Fulton names. So, are one of these five, Abraham’s father, and he was still living in his father’s household or that his family came to Articlave after 1740. (This may be a question the Fulton Society can answer?) There is one Rob’t Guttery listed. So, could this be Margaret Guthrie/Guthrey’s father? However, it is the 10 Boyd, that we need to look at. And could one of these ten entries be the father of this John Boyd, who was born about 1734 – 1740, and in 1766 married Mary Fulton – I assume at the First Dunboe Presbyterian Church at Articlave. Have any list members explored the records of the First Dunboe Presbyterian Church at Articlave? And can the results of your research add to the currently knowledge of this family?

Hi all The Lands Deeds of the Boyds of Halifax County, Virginia In Mrs Mary Canada’s Letter of 1965 to Gary Boyd Roberts, page 2, she provides this list of Deeds – “The earliest Virginia records I have found of these brothers are a 1744 Brunswick Co. deed (R. D. 2, p 482) to Patrick Boyd for 150 acres south of the Dan; two Lunenburg deeds 23 Feb. 1746 to John Boyd for land south of the Dan; one Lunenburg deed 26 Feb. 1746 to James Boyd for land south of the Dan; one Lunenburg deed Oct. 1750 to James Boyd for land south of the Dan; one Lunenburg deed Oct. 1750 to Patrick Boyd for land south of the Dan; and one Lunenburg deed 3 April 1750 to Robert Boyd for land south of the Dan. With the change of county lines all of this was in what is now is now Halifax County, Virginia.” 1. Can these Deeds now be fully referenced; located and the size of the Land Deeds determined against modern land references. 2. Were there “other” land Deeds to these four Brothers after 1750? If so, where; how large, etc? 3. Does the timing of these grants mean anything? Such as when each of the brothers arrived in “South Boston, Virginia? Or did they all come together, and help to develop Patrick’s farm first, and as they “gained” more money buy “other” blocks of land? 4. And did all these “lots” of land join each other? 5. Does the date of these Deeds, tell us anything about when they may have come down from PA? 6. And why did all four brothers pick this one location, south of the Dan? Are there any other questions that rise from this list of Deeds? It would currently appear that all four brothers, where born in County Antrim, Ireland, but some IT trees say that they were born in Chester County, PA. But this is not consistent with the fact that George was one of the founders of St Johns Church in 1729. This Church would have been built, within a year or so of their arrival and not 15 or 17 years late. (Hopefully, descendants of this family can find supporting data one way or the other to confirm where the five sons were born – County Antrim or Chester County, PA.) Thank you for your assistance. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. (Folder 16A #7B)

Good morning all I recent weeks, there have been a number of queries concerning the family of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass, PA. I do not have an full list of publications on this family only these two 1. The Boyds of Boyds Tank, by Frank Ewell Boyd & William Taylor Boyd. (1970). 107 p. 71-126643 MARC. [This can be purchased from Mrs E. Boyd, 291 Chewacia Drive, Auburn GA 36830 for $US 6.50 - as advised by Raymond Ryan] (As I was given this advice about 25 years ago, I would very much doubt that Mrs Boyd is still alive today, but some relative me still live at this address?) 2. Captives' Mansion by S. R.. Slaymaker II, published in 1973. [title given by Brenda Cornelius, # 5 researchers list] I assume that the Boyd “Captive’ Mansion”, is different from the “Slaymaker Papers” that many people talk about. It is my “understanding, that these “Slaymaker Papers” at held at the Lancaster County Historical Society in Pennsylvania. I was taken to this Society in 2010, but we did not look at those Papers, but at other Boyd families, that they had. Does, any list members know if the Lancaster County Historical Society actually does house these “Slaymaker Papers”? And has anyone “researched” these papers? And is there further work that need to be done with these Papers? 3. While I was at the New England Historical and Genealogical Society, Boston, MA in 2016, doing research as the Chairman of the Historical Committee of the House of Boyd Society, I was given pages 132, 139, 192-193, 198 and 209, of a book that seems to be titled “Boyd Family” – I was not given the title page. If my memory is now correct after three and a quarter-years, this work was done by Gary Boyd Roberts, whom can be reached C/- of NEHGS, in Boston, MA. And he is descendant of this family of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass, PA, but I am not quite sure which of the five brothers he descends from. Nor am I sure of when this publication was written, to know if its data is dated or not. Or how widely this publication was circulated. So, it may mean those wishing to determine how much is already known, may need to contact the NEHGS to see if this book is available or can be copied. 4. Amongst the additional papers I was given by the NEHGS staff, was letter of 3 January 1965 from Mary Canada of Durham, NC – who was also a descendant of this family. [She is new to me.] She starts that her goal is to get something written up for the “Virginia Genealogist”. I know that I have not come across this source in the last 10 years of doing trips to the USA. So, it may be worth some of our Virginia cousins seeing, if after 1965, if she had written any articles for this “Journal”? 5. Mrs Mary Canada, in her 1965 letter to Gary Boyd Roberts, also mentioned Lancaster County Historical Society – “Papers”, xxi, No 10, 1917, page 160 and Vol. Xiii, No 6, June 4, 1909 page 135. So, this Journal, may also need to be searched for any other references to the George and Isabella Boyd’s family or their Family in Halifax County, Virginia or Granville County, North Carolina. 6. Mrs Mary Canada in her 1965 letter mentioned Margaret Jamieson (Mrs C. M) of Marks, Mississippi. (And she has a whole contingent working with her.) I have not heard of Mrs Margaret Jamieson of MS before and I am unaware if she has written anything up on her own research of this family of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass, PA. 7. Since I became Chairman of the Historical Committee in April 2002, I been sent from time to time, some of the writings of Walter Boyd of NC. But I am not yet aware if also has or has not written any book on his research. 8. While it is known that a number of members of this family were in the War of Independence and some are listed in the 1990 DAR Patriot Index, and therefore assume that there is some DAR data on various members of this family, but I can’t cite any DAR reference to them. Are list members aware of any other books, publications, articles on this family that I can add to the bottom of Family Chapter 5/266? Thank you for your assistance. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. (Folder 16A #7B)

Kentucky County Histories, by the Turner Publishing Company It would seem that in the 1980’s and 1990’s, the Turner Publishing Company in conjunction with County Committees, published quite a number of “County Histories” in the USA. If you are not aware of this work, it would be well worth asking your local Library, if there is any Turner Publishing Company for the County or Countries that you are looking at in the USA for your Boyd (and other families). From the "Family histories: Christian County, Kentucky," Publisher Turner Publishing co, 1986, ISBN 093802101X (v.1) [Not sure which page number], it uses this “STYLE”, to describe individual families in three columns per page. “BOYD – JOHNSON Cyrus Albert Boyd was born to George Ennis (3-1-1831/10-11-1917) and Susan Adeline Fuller Boyd (11-29-1839/9-26.1886). Cyrus was the eighth of ten children: M. A. (9-?-1859/9-?-1860), Schrince J (4-16-1861/10-27-1947), M E(4-12-1863/9-11-1864), Parthenia Josie (?-?- 1864/?), Robert Anderson (12-30-1868/12-141939), John F. (11-12-1870/7-11-1907), George Ennis Jr., (6-25-1872/8-15-1873), Cyrus Albert (8-16-1875/1-26-1937), Susan Mildred (11-19-1877/8-9-1944), and James H. (6-28-1879/2-5/1891) were all born in the Hamby Community of North Christian County. Cyrus paternal grandparents were James Boyd ….” This is not what I would call an “Family History” with sources cite and their reference given as to the source of this data. I would call this a “Newspaper” style of writing. While it is not as good as the “Family History”, but it is far better than a black page, or having no knowledge at all about your families origins and structure in earlier generations. In this case it does provide valuable “hints” that can be used to do FURHTER RESEARCH on this family. 1) It wells whom are Cyrus Albert Boyd’s parents are – George Ennis Boyd and Susan Adeline Fuller. 2) It also tells you whom his Boyd grandparents are – James Boyd. (Although when I copied form the Thumb Drive, I only copied a single paragraph.) 3) It tells you where the family of George Ennis Boyd, was living when all of his 10 children were born – in Hamby Community of North Christian County, KY. So, this allows you to search for birth, death, burial/Cemetery, Church, Census and other records that are based on this location. And it will also allow you to search any books or publications on this location as well. But it does mean that you will be able to take the various facts given, to determine if you can build these “family histories” so that you can be reasonable confident, that this data does link to your family and will fill in those missing branches that you did not know about or could not find data on. (IT WILL GIVE YOU AN OUTLINE AND STRUCTURE – BUT NOT THE FULL PICUTURE.] As I said, we copied about 20 of these “Kentucky County histories” and I think, at the time there were about 20 or so Boyd families in each publication. Thus, making some 400 Boyd families – with some being joined together with other articles. It seems that the way they were copied, I can’t transfer them onto my PC as Word Documents, but I will have to type up each individually in the New Year and post the articles to the net list for members benefit and help them to make links with branches they may currently know nothing about. Or if members wish, I could type up this list and post to the Net list, so that I could attach that Thumb Drive FILE, to an Email. (If I can get that to work?) I know that not only did we copy the Boyd families, but also those families where Boyds were include. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Mike thank you. First a bit about me and how I got started on this ambitious endeavor. I was born David F. Ellis to Charles F. Ellis and Shirley M Peterson. I had four siblings the youngest Of which passed away this last July. Our parents divorced when I was 4yrs old and my mother remarried and all us children used our stepfathers surname Hall. The first thing I learned from my mother only a few years ago was that my fathers father was not an Ellis and as near as she could recall she thought his name might be Boyd. He and his wife Nancy Josephine Higgins had divorced and she had remarried a Franklin Ellis and had all the children change their names to Ellis. She only knew that my grandfather Tom was a very happy man with a good heart. He had at one time told her he was Black Scots. Whatever that might be I am sure I have no idea. Using US census reports and my fathers birthdate and place which my eldest sister knew I was able to find my Grandfathers household in Portland Multinomah County Oregon in 1930 listing the children all shown as born in Oklahoma down to the youngest child at that time my father Charles H. Boyd. Thomas as head of household listed his place of birth on this census as Cove, Polk County Arkansas. 1893. Going back to 1920 US Census I found the family living in Oklahoma with three children Grace, Tom Jr, and Merion Boyd. This was 5 years before my father Charles would be born in Oregon. Tom listed his father as being born in Pickens SC as well as his mother. Referencing 1900 census I located my gr grandfather Luther M Boyd b. 1853 in Pickens SC. Married to Susan Melinda Hawkins. As head of household in Cove Polk Arkansas and my grandfather Thomas Watson Boyd aged 6yrs. There were also a number of older siblings Luther listed his birth place as Pickens SC and also his fathers birthplace as Pickens South Carolina. Going back to 1860 US census I found the family of Warren and Arminda Boyd with sons Joseph and Luther M Boyd. Warren indicates on this census report that his father was born in Virginia. In 1850 Warren and Arminda still in Pickens SC show one son Larkin A Boyd 1/12 of a year in age. Larkin does not appear in 1860 and is presumed to have passed away sometime in his first decade. I stumbled upon a letter on the internet from a Boyd family in Tennessee to a relative informing them of the death of another family members son back home in South Carolina aged 4-5 who passed away as a result of an accident. He had become frightened by a friend of his father firing his gun, and in running away he had cut his leg on a piece of metal on the porch and subsequently died from the injury. I was not aware enough at the time to reference the source and have since been unable to find the letter or the site I saw it on. Shame on me I hope to not make that mistake again. It was at this time that I took FTDNA Y-111 test and confirmed my Boyd family connection matching closely with several other descendants along this branch. One of which is David Boyd of England and we have shared a number of emails over the past few years. My search for Warrens father and mother was difficult and the information that I got about them came from some of these other descendants of this Boyd branch. Mostly from Charlie Boyd in Georgia. I suspected Robert Boyd and Rachel Hinton were his parents. I was given copies of land grants from Robert to his children and from Rachel to her children. Warren being listed in Pickens courthouse records. Only a short time ago a series of documents called the Robert Boyd Equity Papers was brought to light from the LDS records by another researcher and passed on to other researcher who happens to descend from this same line of Boyd’s and it came to the hands of our own Randy Boyd who passed it along to me. These documents are a collection of depositions and court records for a lawsuit filed by one of this Robert Boyd’s children against Rachel Hinton and Harrison Boyd claiming Rachel was never legally married to Robert and therefore had no right to land given her by Robert Boyd in or around 1850. The plaintiff as one of Roberts legal children goes on to name his first wife and their 16 children by name and even who they married, as well as his second wife and their son Jeter Boyd and his commonlaw wife Rachel and their 7 children. Warren being one of them. The researcher also goes on to establish this Robert Boyd’s connection to his father Robert Boyd. The youngest of the five brothers and sons of GEORGE and Isabella Boyd. Her website is called Down Home Geneology and the documents are posted to her site. Thank you Randy for bringing this to my attention. I owe you one cousin. US Census reports got me a long ways toward finding my ancestors. DNA made a connection that ties me to GEORGE and Izabella. And the brick wall, Warrens father Was knocked down by the disclosure of the Robert Boyd Equity Papers. If there is anything else I can help with please don’t hesitate to ask. Kind regards David Boyd-Hall Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 12, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > David > When I was at the Library in Covington, Kenton Co., KY, they pulled out a list of the County Histories they had by the "Turner Publishing Co., Paducah, KY." > > It seems that their Christian County, KY book was on that list. > > It was titled - > > "Family histories: Christian County, Kentucky," Publisher Turner Publishing co, 1986, ISBN 093802101X (v.1) > > I assume that the "(v 1)" means that there were only one Volume. > > However, they did not have any history for Trigg County, KY or for Stewart County, TN, at Covington, KY, where it is known other parts of this family of George and Isabella also settled. So it may also be worth asking your Library, if they have those histories as well, as that will. > > While others (or yourself), maybe able to list other Counties in both KY and TN and later in Missouri, where this family migrated to to see if other Turner Publishing Company publications on those Counties have been produced or not. > > In the 1880's, another series of County histories were produced. So, your Vol. 2 may refer to that series? Or there could be other County histories done to make the 200th Anniversary, but other people. > > But, as in all cases use your local Library to see what they can find for you for both the Turner Publishing Co, and any other County History. [And if they can't get it for you by an Inter-Library Loan - I am sure that one of the members of this list will live near an Library that will have that book you are after and be able to tell you what sections of the book you need to copy, etc. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, aust. > > > -----Original Message----- From: Work > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 4:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family > > Mary, could you tell me if the book is known as Vol 2 ? I’d like to find a copy. > > David Boyd-Hall > >> On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Mary Helton via CLANBOYD <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> List:Mike Boyd stated the following- >> "It has been assumed that the four sons of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass, PA came to Boyd’s Ferry – now South Boston – Dan River, in Halifax County in the 1740’s. I am not sure if anyone has the year of this migration or if all four brothers came together or if some may have followed one of them down to Halifax County." >> >> I have a Family History Book of Christian County Kentucky (1991) that talks about this family and I will post here what it says. >> Boyd Family >> >> Blessings,Mary Helton-Lasser >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

David When I was at the Library in Covington, Kenton Co., KY, they pulled out a list of the County Histories they had by the "Turner Publishing Co., Paducah, KY." It seems that their Christian County, KY book was on that list. It was titled - "Family histories: Christian County, Kentucky," Publisher Turner Publishing co, 1986, ISBN 093802101X (v.1) I assume that the "(v 1)" means that there were only one Volume. However, they did not have any history for Trigg County, KY or for Stewart County, TN, at Covington, KY, where it is known other parts of this family of George and Isabella also settled. So it may also be worth asking your Library, if they have those histories as well, as that will. While others (or yourself), maybe able to list other Counties in both KY and TN and later in Missouri, where this family migrated to to see if other Turner Publishing Company publications on those Counties have been produced or not. In the 1880's, another series of County histories were produced. So, your Vol. 2 may refer to that series? Or there could be other County histories done to make the 200th Anniversary, but other people. But, as in all cases use your local Library to see what they can find for you for both the Turner Publishing Co, and any other County History. [And if they can't get it for you by an Inter-Library Loan - I am sure that one of the members of this list will live near an Library that will have that book you are after and be able to tell you what sections of the book you need to copy, etc. Mike Boyd Brisbane, aust. -----Original Message----- From: Work Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 4:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family Mary, could you tell me if the book is known as Vol 2 ? I’d like to find a copy. David Boyd-Hall > On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Mary Helton via CLANBOYD > <[email protected]> wrote: > > List:Mike Boyd stated the following- > "It has been assumed that the four sons of George and Isabella Boyd of > Compass, PA came to Boyd’s Ferry – now South Boston – Dan River, in > Halifax County in the 1740’s. I am not sure if anyone has the year of > this migration or if all four brothers came together or if some may have > followed one of them down to Halifax County." > > I have a Family History Book of Christian County Kentucky (1991) that > talks about this family and I will post here what it says. > Boyd Family > > Blessings,Mary Helton-Lasser >

Good morning all I expect that many of our US cousins know about General Greene’s Army crossing the Dan River in 1781 at Boyd’s Ferry (now at South Boston, Halifax County, Virginia) where the elder brothers Patrick Boyd and John Boyd remained and their two younger brothers had moved onto Granville County, NC. And it was the Boyd’s ferry (along with other ferry’s including the Irvine’s) that were used to assist the Army to cross the Dan River. But as is known by Boyd researchers, there were quite a lot of other Boyd families living in Southern Virginia at this time. From the family of Alexander Boyd of Irvine, Ayrshire and son of Captain Robert Boyd, whom had come to Boydton, Mecklenburg County, Virginia, in 1763, which adjoins Halifax County to the east. Or the various Boyd families in Bedford and Franklin County, a little to the west of Halifax County, and I suspect other counties to the west as well. I have never seen the question, it these other Boyd families, assisted or got involved in this saving of General Greene’s Army in 1781? At South Boston, Halifax County each year – around the third week of February – they hold a Commemoration of the Crossing of the Dan River by General Greene’s Army. In 2021, the 240th Anniversary of this Crossing, I understand will be held on 14 February 2021 and in 2020 on 15th February 2020. So, even if your southern Virginia Boyd family did not become involved, you may wish to mark this on your calendar for the third week of February, so that you can go along and meet other Boyd families, including those Boyds for George and Isabella Boyd family of Compass, PA that still live in this area. I look forward to hearing the results of next year’s Commemoration. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

Mary Have you yet posted these Boyd families that you cited from Christian County, KY? "Some" of these will come form Halifax County, Virginia, but but some descendants of Robert Boyd and Eleanor McCullock from Iredell County, NC, also settled in this County. And I also think that the family of Linn Boyd, speaker of the US Congress in the 1840's - may have also come form this same County. I think it may come from an William Boyd family, but I have yet to work out if he is the William Boyd of Bedford County, Virginia or the William Boyd of PA. Or will you start posting this data in the New Year after you have finished your Xmas cooking? I know that when i was in the Library at Covington, KY, we copied about 20 KY County history books out of the 120 KY counties. I think all but one,had about 20 Boyd families in it, with one only having three. So this will be quite a lot of information to post to the list. I am not sure if Christian County, KY was one of those that we copied or not Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:04 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Mary Helton Subject: [CLANBOYD] Book about George and Isabella Boyd's family List:Mike Boyd stated the following- "It has been assumed that the four sons of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass, PA came to Boyd’s Ferry – now South Boston – Dan River, in Halifax County in the 1740’s. I am not sure if anyone has the year of this migration or if all four brothers came together or if some may have followed one of them down to Halifax County." I have a Family History Book of Christian County Kentucky (1991) that talks about this family and I will post here what it says. Boyd Family Ear;y in the 18th century George Boyd and his wife wife, Isabella arrived in Chester/Lancaster area of Pennsylvania. They came from County Antrim, Ulster in northern Ireland. There were five sons, George Jr., Patrick, john, James, and Robert. After George Sr's death in 1731 and the settlement of his estate, George Jr. stayed in Pennsylvaina while his four brothers went sought to Halifax County Virginia and Granville County, NC. Here they all brought lands, built homes and proceeded to rear large families. As new lands opened up, some of their sons, grandsons and great grandsons began to move away.By the mid 19th century they were branches of the family living in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and Kentucky. Seven of these families came to the Christians/Trigg county of Kentucky. Five of Patrick's grandsons came. To Christian County came Francis, Aaron, and David.Abner had lands in both Christians and Trigg Counties.To Trigg County came Archer (Archibald)Boyd. John Boyd has a grandson named Roy. Although it is believed Roy did not come to Kentucky, his widow and all of his children came.Records of the settlement of his estate exist in both Halifax County Virginia and Trigg County KY. Robert Boyd had a grandson named Thomas. After his death his wife and four children came to Trigg County, KY. Over the years many of the Boyd's have moved elsewhere. Today there are descendants living all over the country. This book goes on to list the families of Aaron Boyd, Archer Boyd, David Boyd, Francis Boyd, Robert Boyd and Roy Boyd along with seven (7) other families. If you would like, I can continue to post about these Boyd's families. Just let me know if there is an interest. Blessings,Mary Helton-Lasser _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you Loraine, I can cite the full title, etc and can also work out dates of death etc Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Allrelated Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 11:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Where did John Boyd and Janet Craig lived before Bucks Cou, PA? Mike - the book was published in 1926. Lorraine On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Lorraine. > > 1. Do you know the date of when this book was published? It will help > to > reference when some the people were still alive. > > 2. Mary Helton, I have only had time to look at the Craig Settlement in > Allan Township (or Irish Settlement), but I could only see the family of > John Boyd and Jane Craig. But I am not sure if it may show other Boyds in > other Townships. > > I will now have to get time to see if what is included hear, can add to > what > I already have in Chapter 4/208. > > Mike Boyd > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Allrelated > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Where did John Boyd and Janet Craig lived before > Bucks Cou, PA? > > I show that he came from Philadelphia per Scotch-Irish of Northampton > County, Pennsylvania, p. 46. > "As early as 1728, John Boyd, who had married Jane Craig, went with > Colonel > Thomas Craig from Philadelphia and settled at a place...later known as the > Craig Settlement." > https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/digitalbks2/id/12902 > Lorraine > Allrelated > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:38 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Good morning all > > > > > > > > It is over 25 years that I was first introduced to the families of John > > Boyd of the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA and his younger brother > > Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Mike - the book was published in 1926. Lorraine On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Lorraine. > > 1. Do you know the date of when this book was published? It will help > to > reference when some the people were still alive. > > 2. Mary Helton, I have only had time to look at the Craig Settlement in > Allan Township (or Irish Settlement), but I could only see the family of > John Boyd and Jane Craig. But I am not sure if it may show other Boyds in > other Townships. > > I will now have to get time to see if what is included hear, can add to > what > I already have in Chapter 4/208. > > Mike Boyd > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Allrelated > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Where did John Boyd and Janet Craig lived before > Bucks Cou, PA? > > I show that he came from Philadelphia per Scotch-Irish of Northampton > County, Pennsylvania, p. 46. > "As early as 1728, John Boyd, who had married Jane Craig, went with Colonel > Thomas Craig from Philadelphia and settled at a place...later known as the > Craig Settlement." > https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/digitalbks2/id/12902 > Lorraine > Allrelated > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:38 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Good morning all > > > > > > > > It is over 25 years that I was first introduced to the families of John > > Boyd of the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA and his younger brother > > Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thank you Lorraine. 1. Do you know the date of when this book was published? It will help to reference when some the people were still alive. 2. Mary Helton, I have only had time to look at the Craig Settlement in Allan Township (or Irish Settlement), but I could only see the family of John Boyd and Jane Craig. But I am not sure if it may show other Boyds in other Townships. I will now have to get time to see if what is included hear, can add to what I already have in Chapter 4/208. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Allrelated Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Where did John Boyd and Janet Craig lived before Bucks Cou, PA? I show that he came from Philadelphia per Scotch-Irish of Northampton County, Pennsylvania, p. 46. "As early as 1728, John Boyd, who had married Jane Craig, went with Colonel Thomas Craig from Philadelphia and settled at a place...later known as the Craig Settlement." https://digital.libraries.psu.edu/digital/collection/digitalbks2/id/12902 Lorraine Allrelated On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:38 PM Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Good morning all > > > > It is over 25 years that I was first introduced to the families of John > Boyd of the Irish Settlement in Bucks County, PA and his younger brother > Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara, Chester County, PA. > > >