Mike & List I believe that 3 of the below people Mike shared with us are from my family: Ane Boyd born circa 1790 James Boyd born 1797 Alexander Boyd born 1798 All records listed as from Donaghmore Co Tyrone. Their baptism records list them as the children of Robert & Mary Boyd. Robert Boyd my 4x great grandfather was born abt 1760 Dungannon Co Tyrone & married Mary Miller (Millar) There are 8 baptism and/or birth records in the same place that provide dates that could make them children of Robert & Mary: Sarah b 1783 Mary b 1785 Robert b 1786 (my line) Margaret b 1787 Ane b 1790 James b 1797 Alexander b 1798 Samuel b 1804 I am also trying to place a John Boyd born 1801 in this line but I don’t find him in the Baptism/Birth records as yet. Information on him comes from someone who supplied me with 2nd hand information from a Bible which I have been trying to track down as the last person known to own it is now deceased. The Bible was in Trumbull Co Ohio where my Boyd line settled. the Bible is said to list him as the 2nd son of Robert & Sarah Millar Boyd but the birthdate I have from census data would place him as the 4th son. Of course all the birth dates could be off a bit! Linda Boyd Myers > On Oct 30, 2019, at 16:39, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > Linda and all > > Boyds of Donaghmore, County Tyrone, Ireland > > When I was looking at the 1994 IGI for the UK for both County Tyrone and Donaghmore, I was able to find these entries. These would suggest that there were several brothers and perhaps at least two cousins with two Robert Boyds. This would suggest to me that the Robert Boyd born in 1786 at Donaghmore, also had brothers and cousins living in this area at about the same time. > > FAMILY # 1 > > Agnes BOYD (F)............ C: 24 Jun 1778 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: James BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Ann SP: 19 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 2 > > Jane BOYD (F)............. C: 19 Aug 1787 B: 5 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Abraham BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Sarah SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 3 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: 18 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary Ane SP: 13 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 4 > > Ane BOYD (F).............. C: 11 Mar 1790 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 28 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 17 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: Jan 1797 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > Alexander BOYD (M)......... C: Sep 1798 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Robert BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Mary SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 5 > > James BOYD (M)............ C: Feb 1800 B: 6 Aug 1976 PROVO Ba: C700701 > Father: Edward BOYD Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland E: 30 Oct 1976 PROVO So: Q941.64/ > Mother: Alice SP: 16 Nov 1976 PROVO Pr: 0883727 > > FAMILY # 6 > > Anne BOYD (F)............... B: 6 Aug 1864 B: 25 Jul 1987 LANGE Ba: C701232 > Father: John BOYD 0756, Donaghmore, Down, Ireland E: 13 Nov 1987 LANGE So: 101090 > Mother: Mary BAGNELL SP: 18 Nov 1987 LANGE > > > If you can make any connections to any of these entries please tell this net list. > > Mike Boyd > Executive Board Member (2008- 2019) > 31/10/2019 > > >

Hi all Archibald Boyd of East India Company. The outline of this family comes from Burke’s Distinguished Families of America, The Lineages of 1600 Families of British Origins now resident in the United States of America, [no date], p 2574. “The elder son, Archibald Boyd, of the H. E. I.C. Service, b 1726; m 1760, his cousin, Isabella (b 1729, d. 1806), dau of William Mitchell, of Leith, and d. 1782, leaving issue, 1. John, of whom presently, 2. William, of Hillhouse Field, W. S., Edinburgh, b 1772; m 1798, Jessie Brown (b. 1773; d 1848), and d. 1845 1. Isabella, m 1788, William Sprott, of Spott.” Again, there is very little details about this family. Although Archibald Boyd is listed as the “eldest” son, it is quite strange that as the first son, he was employed by the Honourable East India Company. It seems that he has “done” his service in India and returned home at the age of 34 years of age and had enough wealth to be married. I understand that the East India Company records at housed at the British Library. So, these may be worth searching for “some” of Archibald’s earlier life in India. This outline of the family does not say where he lived after his marriage, but with his wife coming from Leith, next to Edinburgh, the Midlothian area might be a good starting point. Nor does it say what he did after his marriage, that would allow him to increase his wealth, so that his son could buy the Broadmeadows Estate in Selkirkshire when he married in 1799. Or if this Archibald Boyd had brought this Estate himself and gave it to his son John was a wedding gift. This family of Archibald and Isabella list of children of only three entries seems very small for this period. Although, it tells us that Archibald died 1782, and being married for 22 years before his death suggesting that more children may have been born to them, but may have died at birth or in infancy? But I was not able to find any of these three children in the 1994 IGI for the UK. Or any other births to them of any other possible children. With William Boyd and Jessie Brown’s family, I was able to find several children in the 1994 IGI for the UK for this couple in which they were located at South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland While the daughter Isabella Boyd married William Sprott, and another website said they had no children. It would appear that this Sprott family of Spott, also married into the Boyds of Merton Hall in Wigtownshire. That Boyd family starts in 1659, with a William Boyd, after the time Dr John Boyd is said to have moved to Carrickfergus, Ireland. So, at this time, it is difficult to say if two Boyd families were linked in earlier times or not. However, her elder brother, John Boyd, named his fourth son Sprott Boyd – assume after his brother-in-law. If you know of any further details of this family or a descendant, I would like to hear from you please about this family of Edinburgh and later Broadmeadows, Selkirkshire. Thank you Mike Boyd Clan Boyd

Debbie With any published tree, you still need to be able to check what are the facts, etc In the case of Robert Boyd, the Glover of Kilmarnock, I think that I have seen about 5 books "incorrectly" state that he is the son of the Earl. Bit the Earl's son was born in 1670 and not in 1689 AND DIED IN 1702 and not in 1761. I assume in Bruce's case with his father's death certificate, he would need to make a footnote and tell the sorry as to why it is wrong, so that in a few decades, someone does not cite the Death Certificate as the true records when it is clearly not. I assume that we can all point to some errors in paper work in our trees. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Shields Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 8:53 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Mary Helton Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Abbreviations and Acronyms used in Genealogy My understanding is that Burke’s peerage is “a source.” I believe that, like WIKIPEDIA, some family or agent of a family is considered the “owner” of the entry, but if the editors believe they are being given poor information, the entry can be revised. It is not an original source. All sources must be treated with some degree of skepticism. My favorite example is that of the Death Certificate of my own father. He died at home, some 20 miles from the town office, in Ryegate, VT. So the physician who came in response to the care-giver’s alert filled out the form using information from my younger sister. Dad was born in the detached village of Florence near Pueblo, Colorado. At age 10, the family moved to Berthoud, CO. Answering the doctor’s questions late at night, my sister put Dad's birthplace as Berthoud (where his father is buried). So there is an error in that as filed. Starting about 1830, Scottish DC’s list the name and relationship of the informant, which helps evaluate the value of the information. > On Dec 26, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Deborah Rea <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mike, > > I was once told that Burkes Peerage - and thus other similar sites/books > were only secondary sources (thus not primary sources) so should we be > taking these sites as 'gospel'? > > Debbie >

Debbie and all I am sorry that I do not know the "Primary" sources Burke's and Debrett's I had "assumed" - big assumption - that they came from family sources, but I have no idea. But it was to the use of their Abbreviations that I was referring to, to Mary's website that she sent us. Both Burke's and Debrett's family trees would be superior to many of the IT trees that I have seen in recent years on Boyd families. But even The Scots Peerage, which is based on the Lord Lyons office - as far as the Boyd family is concerned is wrong in sections - such as the first Earl's son being Robert Boyd the glover, when in fact he was a soldier. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Deborah Rea Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 8:33 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Mary Helton Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Abbreviations and Acronyms used in Genealogy Mike, I was once told that Burkes Peerage - and thus other similar sites/books were only secondary sources (thus not primary sources) so should we be taking these sites as 'gospel'? Debbie On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 20:24, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Mary and list > > Thank you for posting this advice. > > There are some other sources that could also be used when you are doing > your > own tree – > > 1) Bourke’s Peerage and Baronetage; > > 2) Debrett’s Peerage; > > 3) I am not sure if in the New England History and Genealogical Society > publications, if they may also have a suitable list of abbreviations that > could be used in compiling your family tree. > > What ever source you use, you need to have an list of those abbreviations > that you use at the beginning of your book – before your start your story > – > or as an appendix at the end. BUT YOUR MUST CLEARLY SHOW WHAT > ABBREVIATIONS > YOU HAVE USED IN THE TEXT OF YOUR STORY AND TREE. > > Good writing in 2020 of your articles, for your Clan Society, your local > Genealogical Society or your own family book. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Mary Helton > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Abbreviations and Acronyms used in Genealogy > > > https://www.geni.com/projects/Abbreviations-Acronyms-for-Genealogy-The-Accepted/3096 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Debbie Rea _______________________________________________ ___________________________________ NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. Clan Boyd Society, International (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Bruce - I think it was Bruce Durie, a Scottish genealogist and perhaps now Sir Bruce said that to me many years ago. So good to have this all re-confirmed! Debbie On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 22:54, Bruce Shields <[email protected]> wrote: > My understanding is that Burke’s peerage is “a source.” I believe that, > like WIKIPEDIA, some family or agent of a family is considered the “owner” > of the entry, but if the editors believe they are being given poor > information, the entry can be revised. It is not an original source. All > sources must be treated with some degree of skepticism. > > My favorite example is that of the Death Certificate of my own father. He > died at home, some 20 miles from the town office, in Ryegate, VT. So the > physician who came in response to the care-giver’s alert filled out the > form using information from my younger sister. Dad was born in the > detached village of Florence near Pueblo, Colorado. At age 10, the family > moved to Berthoud, CO. Answering the doctor’s questions late at night, my > sister put Dad's birthplace as Berthoud (where his father is buried). So > there is an error in that as filed. Starting about 1830, Scottish DC’s > list the name and relationship of the informant, which helps evaluate the > value of the information. > > > On Dec 26, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Deborah Rea <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > I was once told that Burkes Peerage - and thus other similar sites/books > > were only secondary sources (thus not primary sources) so should we be > > taking these sites as 'gospel'? > > > > Debbie > > > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 20:24, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Mary and list > >> > >> Thank you for posting this advice. > >> > >> There are some other sources that could also be used when you are doing > >> your > >> own tree – > >> > >> 1) Bourke’s Peerage and Baronetage; > >> > >> 2) Debrett’s Peerage; > >> > >> 3) I am not sure if in the New England History and Genealogical > Society > >> publications, if they may also have a suitable list of abbreviations > that > >> could be used in compiling your family tree. > >> > >> What ever source you use, you need to have an list of those > abbreviations > >> that you use at the beginning of your book – before your start your > story > >> – > >> or as an appendix at the end. BUT YOUR MUST CLEARLY SHOW WHAT > >> ABBREVIATIONS > >> YOU HAVE USED IN THE TEXT OF YOUR STORY AND TREE. > >> > >> Good writing in 2020 of your articles, for your Clan Society, your local > >> Genealogical Society or your own family book. > >> > >> Mike Boyd > >> Brisbane, Aust. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD > >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:47 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Cc: Mary Helton > >> Subject: [CLANBOYD] Abbreviations and Acronyms used in Genealogy > >> > >> > >> > https://www.geni.com/projects/Abbreviations-Acronyms-for-Genealogy-The-Accepted/3096 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___________________________________ > >> NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > >> other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > >> confirm the facts in original sources. > >> > >> Clan Boyd Society, International > >> (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > working. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >> Unsubscribe > >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >> community > >> > > > > > > -- > > Debbie Rea > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > > > Clan Boyd Society, International > > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > working. > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > Bruce P. Shields > 6405 Garfield Rd > Hyde Park VT 05655 > (802) 888 5165 > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Debbie Rea

My understanding is that Burke’s peerage is “a source.” I believe that, like WIKIPEDIA, some family or agent of a family is considered the “owner” of the entry, but if the editors believe they are being given poor information, the entry can be revised. It is not an original source. All sources must be treated with some degree of skepticism. My favorite example is that of the Death Certificate of my own father. He died at home, some 20 miles from the town office, in Ryegate, VT. So the physician who came in response to the care-giver’s alert filled out the form using information from my younger sister. Dad was born in the detached village of Florence near Pueblo, Colorado. At age 10, the family moved to Berthoud, CO. Answering the doctor’s questions late at night, my sister put Dad's birthplace as Berthoud (where his father is buried). So there is an error in that as filed. Starting about 1830, Scottish DC’s list the name and relationship of the informant, which helps evaluate the value of the information. > On Dec 26, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Deborah Rea <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mike, > > I was once told that Burkes Peerage - and thus other similar sites/books > were only secondary sources (thus not primary sources) so should we be > taking these sites as 'gospel'? > > Debbie > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 20:24, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mary and list >> >> Thank you for posting this advice. >> >> There are some other sources that could also be used when you are doing >> your >> own tree – >> >> 1) Bourke’s Peerage and Baronetage; >> >> 2) Debrett’s Peerage; >> >> 3) I am not sure if in the New England History and Genealogical Society >> publications, if they may also have a suitable list of abbreviations that >> could be used in compiling your family tree. >> >> What ever source you use, you need to have an list of those abbreviations >> that you use at the beginning of your book – before your start your story >> – >> or as an appendix at the end. BUT YOUR MUST CLEARLY SHOW WHAT >> ABBREVIATIONS >> YOU HAVE USED IN THE TEXT OF YOUR STORY AND TREE. >> >> Good writing in 2020 of your articles, for your Clan Society, your local >> Genealogical Society or your own family book. >> >> Mike Boyd >> Brisbane, Aust. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:47 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Mary Helton >> Subject: [CLANBOYD] Abbreviations and Acronyms used in Genealogy >> >> >> https://www.geni.com/projects/Abbreviations-Acronyms-for-Genealogy-The-Accepted/3096 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________ >> NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any >> other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed >> confirm the facts in original sources. >> >> Clan Boyd Society, International >> (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > > -- > Debbie Rea > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Bruce P. Shields 6405 Garfield Rd Hyde Park VT 05655 (802) 888 5165 [email protected]

Mike, I was once told that Burkes Peerage - and thus other similar sites/books were only secondary sources (thus not primary sources) so should we be taking these sites as 'gospel'? Debbie On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 20:24, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Mary and list > > Thank you for posting this advice. > > There are some other sources that could also be used when you are doing > your > own tree – > > 1) Bourke’s Peerage and Baronetage; > > 2) Debrett’s Peerage; > > 3) I am not sure if in the New England History and Genealogical Society > publications, if they may also have a suitable list of abbreviations that > could be used in compiling your family tree. > > What ever source you use, you need to have an list of those abbreviations > that you use at the beginning of your book – before your start your story > – > or as an appendix at the end. BUT YOUR MUST CLEARLY SHOW WHAT > ABBREVIATIONS > YOU HAVE USED IN THE TEXT OF YOUR STORY AND TREE. > > Good writing in 2020 of your articles, for your Clan Society, your local > Genealogical Society or your own family book. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Mary Helton > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Abbreviations and Acronyms used in Genealogy > > > https://www.geni.com/projects/Abbreviations-Acronyms-for-Genealogy-The-Accepted/3096 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Debbie Rea

Mary This is one of an series of Books on Boyds, that make the WRONG CONNECTION TO THE HEAD OF THE CLAN. This John Boyd is born in 1739 and the person he is said to be his father is James Boyd born in 1726 - only 13 years after his father. He would have been the "ELDEST" SON and therefore, would have been the 16th Earl of Erroll - which he is not. For those that wish to check this out, can either look at Burke's Peerage and Baronetage or The Scots Peerage, Volume v, for Boyd of Kilmarnock and in am not sure which Volume the Earl of Erroll is recorded in. It does say that he come from Irvine, which would be the second most popular Ayrshire town after Kilmarnock. He trained as an Lawyer at Edinburgh University - so that would suggest that his family had some money or wealth and most likely he was not the eldest son in his family. It says that he left Scotland in 1770 with his mother - suggesting that his father was died. They settled first in Richmond Berkshire County, MA. (I am not sure if this means that they had Boyd relatives there or knew people from Ayrshire that settled in western MA near the NY State border) They then moved to Kinderhook, which appears to be in Columbia County New York. This is not too far form a cluster of Boyds at and around Albany, NY who were there from the 1760's. I have yet to see any death records for his un-named mother. His outline of the Heads of the Clan is also wrong - in that Walter Stewart is not his brother but his Half-brother and they settled in Renfrewshire in the 1100's and not at Kilmarnock. (It is know that Sir Robert Boyd, II, was given land in Ayrshrie after the Battle of Largs in 1263, but its location is not known but thought to be around Largs itself. In March 1306, at Robert the Bruces two Coronations at Scone, Perthsire, Sir Robert Boyd, IV, is termed a small Cunninghame landowner, but does not name his Estate/s. This Sir Robert Boyd was with Bruce on Rathlin Island in Ireland and lead the capture of Brodick Castle in 1306, so Bruce could return to Ayrshire. (So Mike Boyd thinks that the Kilmarnock lands and Dean Castle were given at this time and not in 1316 or two years after him being a junior Commander at Bannockburn in 1314.) I assume the details of his family and his two marriages are based on fact but I have no knowledge or data that might "dispute" what is written. I do not recall seeing anyone whom claims descent from this John Boyd and his family or know if anyone has researched his family in Irvine, Ayrshire. This 1913 publication is another Boyd book that is due to be updated. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:07 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Mary Helton Subject: [CLANBOYD] Boyd's of Scotland and their decendents online book Not sure if anyone on the List has seen this book before. It might be of interest to some. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015071167764&view=1up&seq=1 Merry Christmas!

Galen Welcome to the net list. And we look forward to seeing your tree build in future. 1) What time period are you looking at? 2) Buchanan County, along with most of those in the western "point" of Virginia seem to have quite a number of Boyd families. 3) and when you get to the central southern border region of Patrick/Bedford/Lunenburg/Mecklenburg, there seems to have been Boyd families there since about 1740's. And just across the KY border in Pike County, there are plenty of Boyd families as well. I am not quite sure about in West Virginia. 4) Perhaps in the New Year, you could or should post your own direct tree from yourself back to Elisha Boyd, also with dates and locations, and the names of the spouse. This "should" allow others to make a connection to your family. And to see if any parts may connect to their families. Elisha Boyd, is the more "uncommon" Boyd name, so it should be easier to trace than John or James Boyd. I have a "feeling" that this is an name used in the family of Robert Boyd and Eleanor McCullock's family of Iredell County, NC. But once you post your direct tree, it will allow me to search much more quickly in that and other Family Chapters. Mike Boyd Brisbane, aust. -----Original Message----- From: Wyatt Boyd Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CLANBOYD] Re: Merry Christmas Merry Christmas to you and your family. May you all have a blessed New Year. I've not been active in the group, but would like to start researching again soon. Sincerely, Galen W. Boyd Great Grandfather - Elisha Boyd on Buchanan, County Virginia.

Mary and list Thank you for posting this advice. There are some other sources that could also be used when you are doing your own tree – 1) Bourke’s Peerage and Baronetage; 2) Debrett’s Peerage; 3) I am not sure if in the New England History and Genealogical Society publications, if they may also have a suitable list of abbreviations that could be used in compiling your family tree. What ever source you use, you need to have an list of those abbreviations that you use at the beginning of your book – before your start your story – or as an appendix at the end. BUT YOUR MUST CLEARLY SHOW WHAT ABBREVIATIONS YOU HAVE USED IN THE TEXT OF YOUR STORY AND TREE. Good writing in 2020 of your articles, for your Clan Society, your local Genealogical Society or your own family book. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:47 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Mary Helton Subject: [CLANBOYD] Abbreviations and Acronyms used in Genealogy https://www.geni.com/projects/Abbreviations-Acronyms-for-Genealogy-The-Accepted/3096

Mary Having lost my wife to breast cancer in 2002, when she was only 50 years old, and it still hurts. Make sure that you get your Dr to ensure that you get some help in getting over this, as well as your family. I suspect that you have retired, so it will make it much harder for you, as you will have periods of being alone at home by yourself - which are quite hard. And you will always have this list to "talk" to in those times. Make sure that you look after yourself. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Helton via CLANBOYD Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:56 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Mary Helton Subject: [CLANBOYD] Been out of the Loop Blessings List Members and Merry Christmas: The reason I have not been participating lately is because of my husband, Dave's illness. He passed away Dec 7th, 2019 (Pearl Harbor Day) at 3:10 AM. This is the first day that I felt like doing much. Mary Helton-Lasser

I’m so sorry for your loss, Mary. Take good care of yourself. Jeri Sent from my iPad > On Dec 25, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Mary Helton via CLANBOYD <[email protected]> wrote: > > Blessings List Members and Merry Christmas: > > The reason I have not been participating lately is because of my husband, Dave's illness. He passed away Dec 7th, 2019 (Pearl Harbor Day) at 3:10 AM. This is the first day that I felt like doing much. > > Mary Helton-Lasser > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Merry Christmas to you and your family. May you all have a blessed New Year. I've not been active in the group, but would like to start researching again soon. Sincerely, Galen W. Boyd Great Grandfather - Elisha Boyd on Buchanan, County Virginia. On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 9:36 PM Doug Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Nollaig chridheil agus bliadhna mhath ùr. > > Doug Boyd ???? > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 3:42 PM Work <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Merry Christmas and Happiest of New Years for all my Boyd Cousins. > > > > David F Boyd-Ellis-Hall > > > > > On Dec 24, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Melanie Gustin <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Merry Christmas, Mike. May you and your widespread family stay safe. > > > Melanie > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd > > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 7:56 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Merry Christmas > > > > > > Good morning all > > > > > > > > > > > > I wish all my friends on this list a Merry Christmas and good hunting > in > > 2020 with your family tree work. > > > > > > > > > > > > During my trip to the USA in June, I was able to find more Boyd > > families. But I still have not had time to sort all that information out > > yet. I now have some 1000 Boyd family Chapters in the Clan Boyd Pyramid > > plus another 7,000 Boyd families that I have yet to process. And we have > > not yet even scratched the surface of descendants of Clan Boyd and its > > descendants. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Xmas day, I will be having to drive 10 miles to have breakfast with > > six grandchildren; then drive an hour in the opposite direction to have > > lunch with three more grandchildren and after that drive another hour to > > get to my daughters two grandchildren for dinner. So, no jeer until > after > > dinner, as I will be on the road for about 3 hours during the day, if the > > fires do not stop from getting there. In New South Wales, they have > > declared their second week of Fire Emergency and advising people to be > > careful about driving to visit family during this next week. > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy your family wherever you are in the World. And I will look > > forward to corresponding with some of you directly in the New Year, or > > seeing your wisdom on the net to others that we all can learn from. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have an enjoyable Christmas. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Boyd > > > > > > Brisbane, Australia > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would > any > > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > > confirm the facts in original sources. > > > > > > Clan Boyd Society, International > > > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > > working. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would > any > > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > > confirm the facts in original sources. > > > > > > Clan Boyd Society, International > > > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > > working. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > > confirm the facts in original sources. > > > > Clan Boyd Society, International > > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > working. > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Dear Mary, Saying a prayer for you and the family. Take your time getting "back in the loop". On Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 4:56 PM Mary Helton via CLANBOYD < [email protected]> wrote: > Blessings List Members and Merry Christmas: > > The reason I have not been participating lately is because of my husband, > Dave's illness. He passed away Dec 7th, 2019 (Pearl Harbor Day) at 3:10 AM. > This is the first day that I felt like doing much. > > Mary Helton-Lasser > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Blessing upon you Mary, and our prayers will follow you. > On Dec 25, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Mary Helton via CLANBOYD <[email protected]> wrote: > > Blessings List Members and Merry Christmas: > > The reason I have not been participating lately is because of my husband, Dave's illness. He passed away Dec 7th, 2019 (Pearl Harbor Day) at 3:10 AM. This is the first day that I felt like doing much. > > Mary Helton-Lasser > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Bruce P. Shields 6405 Garfield Rd Hyde Park VT 05655 (802) 888 5165 [email protected]

Blessings List Members and Merry Christmas: The reason I have not been participating lately is because of my husband, Dave's illness. He passed away Dec 7th, 2019 (Pearl Harbor Day) at 3:10 AM. This is the first day that I felt like doing much. Mary Helton-Lasser

Inside the book is says "General History Continued From Vol.I, 1986. In a message dated 12/21/2019 11:40:42 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Mary, could you tell me if the book is known as Vol 2 ?  I’d like to find a copy. David Boyd-Hall > On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Mary Helton via CLANBOYD

Not sure if anyone on the List has seen this book before. It might be of interest to some. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015071167764&view=1up&seq=1 Merry Christmas!

https://www.geni.com/projects/Abbreviations-Acronyms-for-Genealogy-The-Accepted/3096

Nollaig chridheil agus bliadhna mhath ùr. Doug Boyd ???? On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 3:42 PM Work <[email protected]> wrote: > Merry Christmas and Happiest of New Years for all my Boyd Cousins. > > David F Boyd-Ellis-Hall > > > On Dec 24, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Melanie Gustin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Merry Christmas, Mike. May you and your widespread family stay safe. > > Melanie > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd > > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 7:56 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [CLANBOYD] Merry Christmas > > > > Good morning all > > > > > > > > I wish all my friends on this list a Merry Christmas and good hunting in > 2020 with your family tree work. > > > > > > > > During my trip to the USA in June, I was able to find more Boyd > families. But I still have not had time to sort all that information out > yet. I now have some 1000 Boyd family Chapters in the Clan Boyd Pyramid > plus another 7,000 Boyd families that I have yet to process. And we have > not yet even scratched the surface of descendants of Clan Boyd and its > descendants. > > > > > > > > On Xmas day, I will be having to drive 10 miles to have breakfast with > six grandchildren; then drive an hour in the opposite direction to have > lunch with three more grandchildren and after that drive another hour to > get to my daughters two grandchildren for dinner. So, no jeer until after > dinner, as I will be on the road for about 3 hours during the day, if the > fires do not stop from getting there. In New South Wales, they have > declared their second week of Fire Emergency and advising people to be > careful about driving to visit family during this next week. > > > > > > > > Enjoy your family wherever you are in the World. And I will look > forward to corresponding with some of you directly in the New Year, or > seeing your wisdom on the net to others that we all can learn from. > > > > > > > > Have an enjoyable Christmas. > > > > > > > > Mike Boyd > > > > Brisbane, Australia > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > > > Clan Boyd Society, International > > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > working. > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > > > Clan Boyd Society, International > > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and > working. > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________ > NOTE: Use the data on this list as a finding tool, just as you would any > other secondary source. When you find the name of an ancestor listed > confirm the facts in original sources. > > Clan Boyd Society, International > (The Clan Boyd Web site is down, I am trying to get it back up and working. > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >