Hello List- I am looking for information about an Annie Boyd from Kilmarnock who married a John McMurray also from Kilmarnock in 1866 and came to NY/NJ in 1890. They had numerous children - Mary, James, Elizabeth, Ann, Andrew, Alexander, Janet, Isabella, and Jessie (my grandmother), some born in Kilmarnock, some born in Antrim, one born in NY. Annie's parents were Andrew Boyd and Isabella Williamson, both of Kilmarnock, and Andrew's parents were Thomas Boyd and Mary McJanet. Annie had at least one brother Thomas whom I believe also came to NY. We have been looking for more information for some time about them, and I am hoping that someone here might know anything about this line? Thanks, Janet Hallahan

We flew into Darwin, and scuba dived on the Great Barrier Reef. What makes you think I haven't been in Australia? ----- Original Message ----- From: "alistair Stevenson" <alijohn@optusnet.com.au> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > You obviously haven't been to Australia. Sandy

Hi List, I am trying to find where James Boyd and Margaret Lewis were married. I know their families were in and around the Chester District of SC before 1800. However, there is a listing for their marriage date on the North Carolina Marriages list of Ancestry.com. The County is listed as "South" and the state is "NC". They married in 1805. Can anyone help me with this????? Is there a North Carolina researcher out there that can tell me about "South" NC? By the way - there were four different marriages listed as "South" NC: James Boyd and Margaret Lewis - 1805 Nancy Jane Boyd and Robert Wier/Weir - 1800 Malindah Boyd and William C. Queen - 1840 Rachel Elizabeth Boyd and James Alexander Downing - 1845 What about ClanBoyd??? Can you help??? Maria PS: I also realize that this is a collection of gathered data..........what do you think????

You obviously haven't been to Australia. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > I've traveled around the world 3 times, lived in the Mariana Islands, & > Thailand...if you like "flies"go to India. They crawled & buzzed all over > us. From there we went to Lebanon, and were held at gun-point at the > airport, then to Damascus, then back-tracked to Greece, etc. > > JanC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > And I am a world traveller by choice. When I arrived at Edinburgh > > Castle and read the list of sheriffs of the castle, there were a slew > > of Boyds but no Boydes. The "Anglos" I met living in India were Boyds > > too. > > Here in Virginia we have Hoggs and Hogges (it's said locally, some have > > tails and some don't) and in another family line we have Leggs but no > > Legges. > > Anna Grace Boyd Foster > > On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > > > > > Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was > > > Boyd. No E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's > > > family and some friends about belonging to a black family that lived > > > near him also with the Boyd name. He was very displeased with the > > > teasing and eventially added the E to our name. I forgot to mention > > > his father died when he was 6 yrs. and mother died at 12. He was > > > raised by grandparents and an uncle on his mothers side.I was born > > > with the E and have never seen a need to change. As I am a world > > > traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland and > > > Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM > > > Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I > > >> get 100+ hits. > > >> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. > > >> > > >> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. > > >> > > >> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. > > >> > > >> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. > > >> > > >> > > >> Harry: > > >> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in > > >> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the > > >> Norman French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" > > >> Anna Grace > > >> > > >> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > >> > > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > >> trees > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > > trees > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >

I received this link from another list & see that the article is about a BOYD so may be of particular interest to list members here: http://www.thestarpress.com/articles/1/042157-6001-004.html Linda Boyd Myers

I loved living in India altho it was a little like living in a zoo. For some reason I remember the flies on others, esp. dirty little children's eyes and parts but not on us. I wore a sari or dupatta that helped to cover my face in dust whirls or around bugs. Also, we sprayed ourselves with bug spray pretty frequently. Interesting note: locals who watered their floor with cow urine didn't have flies. Not sure what this has to do with the Boyds?? Just sharing. Anna Grace Boyd Foster On Jul 8, 2005, at 1:09 AM, Jan Curtis wrote: > I've traveled around the world 3 times, lived in the Mariana Islands, & > Thailand...if you like "flies"go to India. They crawled & buzzed all > over > us. From there we went to Lebanon, and were held at gun-point at the > airport, then to Damascus, then back-tracked to Greece, etc. > > JanC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > > >> And I am a world traveller by choice. When I arrived at Edinburgh >> Castle and read the list of sheriffs of the castle, there were a slew >> of Boyds but no Boydes. The "Anglos" I met living in India were Boyds >> too. >> Here in Virginia we have Hoggs and Hogges (it's said locally, some >> have >> tails and some don't) and in another family line we have Leggs but no >> Legges. >> Anna Grace Boyd Foster >> On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: >> >>> Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was >>> Boyd. No E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's >>> family and some friends about belonging to a black family that lived >>> near him also with the Boyd name. He was very displeased with the >>> teasing and eventially added the E to our name. I forgot to mention >>> his father died when he was 6 yrs. and mother died at 12. He was >>> raised by grandparents and an uncle on his mothers side.I was born >>> with the E and have never seen a need to change. As I am a world >>> traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland and >>> Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM >>> Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I >>>> get 100+ hits. >>>> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. >>>> >>>> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. >>>> >>>> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. >>>> >>>> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. >>>> >>>> >>>> Harry: >>>> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in >>>> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the >>>> Norman French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" >>>> Anna Grace >>>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>> trees >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

I have seen several documents that had the X. The words, HIS MARK, were written above the X. -------------- Original message -------------- > Andrew Boyd made his X the first time he voted in Frederick but wrote > his name the next year. I have wondered whether that "autograph" still > exists or whether it was just notated that he wrote it. There is > something about seeing handwriting that is such a personal connection. > And yes, people did suffer from disease without Celebrex. But the Boyds > (mine at least) seem to have lived to a pretty healthy old age. > Anna Grace > On Jul 7, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > > > Our ancestors were NOT as illiterate as we have often thought. The > > problem > > is, they read and wrote in their native language!!! Phonetic spelling > > was > > used more widely then, than it is now and it was thought to be a sign > > of > > high intelligence to be able to spell names and words in more then one > > manner. Look at Napoleon, he never spelled his name the same way > > twice. > > > > And yes the spelling was often determined by the clerk and whether > > they were > > of the same cultural group, i.e. German or English. > > I have church records from Frederick, MD. in which the family name > > changed > > spelling each time the church got a new clerk. And I do know that at > > least > > some of the family could read and write German. > > > > Another matter that is often over looked when we look at legal records. > > When you see that an X was used take a good look at it and also, keep > > in > > mind the age of the person. If you know someone with arthritis, watch > > how > > hard it is for them to use a pen or to write anything. Our ancestors > > didn't > > have our modern medicines to help them, think how painful and hard it > > would > > have been to write. > > Jane in Ohio > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Curtis" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:09 AM > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > > >> Changing spelling of names was common (because most of the people were > >> illiterate)....my one family spelled their name Gohalston, Golson, > >> Golsan, > >> Golston, Gholston, Goldstein, Gulston, and I have even more bizarre > >> spellings of other names. > >> > >> JanC > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Harry Boyde" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:47 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > >> > >> > >>> Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was > >>> Boyd. > >> No > >>> E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's family and > >>> some > >>> friends about belonging to a black family that lived near him also > >>> with > >> the > >>> Boyd name. He was very displeased with the teasing and eventially > >>> added > >> the > >>> E to our name. I forgot to mention his father died when he was 6 yrs. > > and > >>> mother died at 12. He was raised by grandparents and an uncle on his > >> mothers > >>> side.I was born with the E and have never seen a need to change. As > >>> I am > > a > >>> world traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland > >>> and > >>> Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Rich" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM > >>> Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I > > get > >>>> 100+ hits. > >>>> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. > >>>> > >>>> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. > >>>> > >>>> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. > >>>> > >>>> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Harry: > >>>> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in > >>>> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the > >> Norman > >>>> French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" > >>>> Anna Grace > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>> > >>>> > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>> > >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>> trees > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> trees > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees >

I've traveled around the world 3 times, lived in the Mariana Islands, & Thailand...if you like "flies"go to India. They crawled & buzzed all over us. From there we went to Lebanon, and were held at gun-point at the airport, then to Damascus, then back-tracked to Greece, etc. JanC ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > And I am a world traveller by choice. When I arrived at Edinburgh > Castle and read the list of sheriffs of the castle, there were a slew > of Boyds but no Boydes. The "Anglos" I met living in India were Boyds > too. > Here in Virginia we have Hoggs and Hogges (it's said locally, some have > tails and some don't) and in another family line we have Leggs but no > Legges. > Anna Grace Boyd Foster > On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > > > Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was > > Boyd. No E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's > > family and some friends about belonging to a black family that lived > > near him also with the Boyd name. He was very displeased with the > > teasing and eventially added the E to our name. I forgot to mention > > his father died when he was 6 yrs. and mother died at 12. He was > > raised by grandparents and an uncle on his mothers side.I was born > > with the E and have never seen a need to change. As I am a world > > traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland and > > Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM > > Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > > >> > >> > >> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I > >> get 100+ hits. > >> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. > >> > >> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. > >> > >> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. > >> > >> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. > >> > >> > >> Harry: > >> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in > >> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the > >> Norman French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" > >> Anna Grace > >> > >> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > >> > >> > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> trees > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

That may be, but every document signed by my Anthony was an " X ", Virginia 1734, including his Will. On the other hand his wife, knew how to write & spell...she signed her Will Jane Golsan....in grade school handwriting, but she could write her name. JanC ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Boyd" <daveboyd@bellsouth.net> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: [Boyd] The use of the X in the signatures of Scots and Scots - Irish Immigrants > Jan et al, > Whenever you see your ancestor's signed name and an X beside or above > the signature. It does not mean that your ancestor was necessarily > illiterate or didn't know how to write. The Scots and the Scots - Irish > men often signed legal documents and drew a St. Andrews Cross, X, and > then kissed it. > This was done to show that their word was their bond. > > Yours Aye, > David D. Boyd > from GA. > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

A lot of time, a "Mark" was for cattle identification. ----- Original Message ----- From: <hboyde@comcast.net> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > I have seen several documents that had the X. The words, HIS MARK, were written above the X. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > Andrew Boyd made his X the first time he voted in Frederick but wrote > > his name the next year. I have wondered whether that "autograph" still > > exists or whether it was just notated that he wrote it. There is > > something about seeing handwriting that is such a personal connection. > > And yes, people did suffer from disease without Celebrex. But the Boyds > > (mine at least) seem to have lived to a pretty healthy old age. > > Anna Grace > > On Jul 7, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > > > > > Our ancestors were NOT as illiterate as we have often thought. The > > > problem > > > is, they read and wrote in their native language!!! Phonetic spelling > > > was > > > used more widely then, than it is now and it was thought to be a sign > > > of > > > high intelligence to be able to spell names and words in more then one > > > manner. Look at Napoleon, he never spelled his name the same way > > > twice. > > > > > > And yes the spelling was often determined by the clerk and whether > > > they were > > > of the same cultural group, i.e. German or English. > > > I have church records from Frederick, MD. in which the family name > > > changed > > > spelling each time the church got a new clerk. And I do know that at > > > least > > > some of the family could read and write German. > > > > > > Another matter that is often over looked when we look at legal records. > > > When you see that an X was used take a good look at it and also, keep > > > in > > > mind the age of the person. If you know someone with arthritis, watch > > > how > > > hard it is for them to use a pen or to write anything. Our ancestors > > > didn't > > > have our modern medicines to help them, think how painful and hard it > > > would > > > have been to write. > > > Jane in Ohio > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jan Curtis" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:09 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > > > > > >> Changing spelling of names was common (because most of the people were > > >> illiterate)....my one family spelled their name Gohalston, Golson, > > >> Golsan, > > >> Golston, Gholston, Goldstein, Gulston, and I have even more bizarre > > >> spellings of other names. > > >> > > >> JanC > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Harry Boyde" > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:47 AM > > >> Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > > >> > > >> > > >>> Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was > > >>> Boyd. > > >> No > > >>> E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's family and > > >>> some > > >>> friends about belonging to a black family that lived near him also > > >>> with > > >> the > > >>> Boyd name. He was very displeased with the teasing and eventially > > >>> added > > >> the > > >>> E to our name. I forgot to mention his father died when he was 6 yrs. > > > and > > >>> mother died at 12. He was raised by grandparents and an uncle on his > > >> mothers > > >>> side.I was born with the E and have never seen a need to change. As > > >>> I am > > > a > > >>> world traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland > > >>> and > > >>> Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Rich" > > >>> To: > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM > > >>> Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I > > > get > > >>>> 100+ hits. > > >>>> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. > > >>>> > > >>>> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. > > >>>> > > >>>> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. > > >>>> > > >>>> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Harry: > > >>>> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in > > >>>> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the > > >> Norman > > >>>> French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" > > >>>> Anna Grace > > >>>> > > >>>> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > >>>> RING OF BOYDS > > >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > > trees > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > >>> > > >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > >>> trees > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > >> > > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > >> trees > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > > trees > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

That's an interesting bit of info. I don't know whether there was a name at Andrew Boyd's voting signature or whether it was just an X. I'll have to check it out. Actually I don't care whether he could write. He was smart and hard working and generous (he gave land to several different denominations for churches, but maybe he was just hedging his bets. Anna Grace Boyd Foster On Jul 7, 2005, at 3:20 PM, David Boyd wrote: > Jan et al, > Whenever you see your ancestor's signed name and an X beside or above > the signature. It does not mean that your ancestor was necessarily > illiterate or didn't know how to write. The Scots and the Scots - > Irish men often signed legal documents and drew a St. Andrews Cross, > X, and then kissed it. > This was done to show that their word was their bond. > > Yours Aye, > David D. Boyd > from GA. > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

Jan et al, Whenever you see your ancestor's signed name and an X beside or above the signature. It does not mean that your ancestor was necessarily illiterate or didn't know how to write. The Scots and the Scots - Irish men often signed legal documents and drew a St. Andrews Cross, X, and then kissed it. This was done to show that their word was their bond. Yours Aye, David D. Boyd from GA.

Andrew Boyd made his X the first time he voted in Frederick but wrote his name the next year. I have wondered whether that "autograph" still exists or whether it was just notated that he wrote it. There is something about seeing handwriting that is such a personal connection. And yes, people did suffer from disease without Celebrex. But the Boyds (mine at least) seem to have lived to a pretty healthy old age. Anna Grace On Jul 7, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > Our ancestors were NOT as illiterate as we have often thought. The > problem > is, they read and wrote in their native language!!! Phonetic spelling > was > used more widely then, than it is now and it was thought to be a sign > of > high intelligence to be able to spell names and words in more then one > manner. Look at Napoleon, he never spelled his name the same way > twice. > > And yes the spelling was often determined by the clerk and whether > they were > of the same cultural group, i.e. German or English. > I have church records from Frederick, MD. in which the family name > changed > spelling each time the church got a new clerk. And I do know that at > least > some of the family could read and write German. > > Another matter that is often over looked when we look at legal records. > When you see that an X was used take a good look at it and also, keep > in > mind the age of the person. If you know someone with arthritis, watch > how > hard it is for them to use a pen or to write anything. Our ancestors > didn't > have our modern medicines to help them, think how painful and hard it > would > have been to write. > Jane in Ohio > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > > >> Changing spelling of names was common (because most of the people were >> illiterate)....my one family spelled their name Gohalston, Golson, >> Golsan, >> Golston, Gholston, Goldstein, Gulston, and I have even more bizarre >> spellings of other names. >> >> JanC >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Harry Boyde" <hboyde@comcast.net> >> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE >> >> >>> Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was >>> Boyd. >> No >>> E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's family and >>> some >>> friends about belonging to a black family that lived near him also >>> with >> the >>> Boyd name. He was very displeased with the teasing and eventially >>> added >> the >>> E to our name. I forgot to mention his father died when he was 6 yrs. > and >>> mother died at 12. He was raised by grandparents and an uncle on his >> mothers >>> side.I was born with the E and have never seen a need to change. As >>> I am > a >>> world traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland >>> and >>> Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM >>> Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I > get >>>> 100+ hits. >>>> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. >>>> >>>> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. >>>> >>>> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. >>>> >>>> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. >>>> >>>> >>>> Harry: >>>> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in >>>> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the >> Norman >>>> French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" >>>> Anna Grace >>>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

Our ancestors were NOT as illiterate as we have often thought. The problem is, they read and wrote in their native language!!! Phonetic spelling was used more widely then, than it is now and it was thought to be a sign of high intelligence to be able to spell names and words in more then one manner. Look at Napoleon, he never spelled his name the same way twice. And yes the spelling was often determined by the clerk and whether they were of the same cultural group, i.e. German or English. I have church records from Frederick, MD. in which the family name changed spelling each time the church got a new clerk. And I do know that at least some of the family could read and write German. Another matter that is often over looked when we look at legal records. When you see that an X was used take a good look at it and also, keep in mind the age of the person. If you know someone with arthritis, watch how hard it is for them to use a pen or to write anything. Our ancestors didn't have our modern medicines to help them, think how painful and hard it would have been to write. Jane in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > Changing spelling of names was common (because most of the people were > illiterate)....my one family spelled their name Gohalston, Golson, Golsan, > Golston, Gholston, Goldstein, Gulston, and I have even more bizarre > spellings of other names. > > JanC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harry Boyde" <hboyde@comcast.net> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was Boyd. > No > > E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's family and some > > friends about belonging to a black family that lived near him also with > the > > Boyd name. He was very displeased with the teasing and eventially added > the > > E to our name. I forgot to mention his father died when he was 6 yrs. and > > mother died at 12. He was raised by grandparents and an uncle on his > mothers > > side.I was born with the E and have never seen a need to change. As I am a > > world traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland and > > Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM > > Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I get > > > 100+ hits. > > > Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. > > > > > > When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. > > > > > > When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. > > > > > > When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. > > > > > > > > > Harry: > > > Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in > > > medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the > Norman > > > French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" > > > Anna Grace > > > > > > On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >

Hi all, Just a little name difference and the causes I have found. 1.With some German immigrations the name was put on paper as it sounded, as the education level of all people at the time were far less than people of today. 2. Some family members didn't want to be found by others, they would either add a letter or drop a letter i.e. LINDERMAN LINDEMAN LINDEMANN, SMITH SMYTH SMYTHE I have found folks in my own family that removed the R in the name, as to not be noticed in the news papers of the day. Hap Smith searching:SMITH LINDERMAN BOYD BURRINGTON LOCKWOOD HUNTER TOWNE P.S. Do a spell check, you will see what I mean. The many different ways to spell names.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > And I am a world traveller by choice. When I arrived at Edinburgh Castle > and read the list of sheriffs of the castle, there were a slew of Boyds > but no Boydes. The "Anglos" I met living in India were Boyds too. > Here in Virginia we have Hoggs and Hogges (it's said locally, some have > tails and some don't) and in another family line we have Leggs but no > Legges. > Anna Grace Boyd Foster > On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > >> Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was Boyd. >> No E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's family and >> some friends about belonging to a black family that lived near him also >> with the Boyd name. He was very displeased with the teasing and >> eventially added the E to our name. I forgot to mention his father died >> when he was 6 yrs. and mother died at 12. He was raised by grandparents >> and an uncle on his mothers side.I was born with the E and have never >> seen a need to change. As I am a world traveler by profession, I can >> tell you that England, Ireland and Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with >> E listed in their phone books. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> >> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM >> Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE >> >> >>> >>> >>> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I get >>> 100+ hits. >>> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. >>> >>> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. >>> >>> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. >>> >>> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. >>> >>> >>> Harry: >>> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in >>> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the >>> Norman French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" >>> Anna Grace >>> >>> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- trees >> > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >

My maiden name was ALLIN, and my Mom said she got lots of questions about why some one had changed it from ALLEN. Grandpa said just tell them we've been spelling it that way since we crossed the ocean in 1610, and that'll quiet them down. I tried it, and so did my brother, and it sure did. So keep your statistics in mind, and it'll satisfy your questioners. Madora

And I am a world traveller by choice. When I arrived at Edinburgh Castle and read the list of sheriffs of the castle, there were a slew of Boyds but no Boydes. The "Anglos" I met living in India were Boyds too. Here in Virginia we have Hoggs and Hogges (it's said locally, some have tails and some don't) and in another family line we have Leggs but no Legges. Anna Grace Boyd Foster On Jul 6, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was > Boyd. No E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's > family and some friends about belonging to a black family that lived > near him also with the Boyd name. He was very displeased with the > teasing and eventially added the E to our name. I forgot to mention > his father died when he was 6 yrs. and mother died at 12. He was > raised by grandparents and an uncle on his mothers side.I was born > with the E and have never seen a need to change. As I am a world > traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland and > Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM > Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE > > >> >> >> When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I >> get 100+ hits. >> Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. >> >> When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. >> >> When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. >> >> When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. >> >> >> Harry: >> Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in >> medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the >> Norman French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" >> Anna Grace >> >> On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

Changing spelling of names was common (because most of the people were illiterate)....my one family spelled their name Gohalston, Golson, Golsan, Golston, Gholston, Goldstein, Gulston, and I have even more bizarre spellings of other names. JanC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Boyde" <hboyde@comcast.net> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] BOYDE > Thanks for asking!! Until my father came along our family name was Boyd. No > E.! As a youngster my father was teased by his mother's family and some > friends about belonging to a black family that lived near him also with the > Boyd name. He was very displeased with the teasing and eventially added the > E to our name. I forgot to mention his father died when he was 6 yrs. and > mother died at 12. He was raised by grandparents and an uncle on his mothers > side.I was born with the E and have never seen a need to change. As I am a > world traveler by profession, I can tell you that England, Ireland and > Scotland have plenty of Boyde's with E listed in their phone books. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:32 PM > Subject: [Boyd] BOYDE > > > > > > > > When I type the surname BOYDE in the search engine of my web site I get > > 100+ hits. > > Lots of Boyde's in early records in Canada and the U.S. > > > > When I type BOYD I get 1475 hits. > > > > When I type the BOID I get 60 hits. BOIDE gets only 4 hits. > > > > When I type BOYED I get 23 hits. > > > > > > Harry: > > Where did your name get the "e" on it? I haven't seen that except in > > medieval docs. My understanding/reading is that it comes from the Norman > > French for "beauty" or the Gaelic for "fair" > > Anna Grace > > > > On Jul 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Harry Boyde wrote: > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

The Dunlops & Boyds were neighbors in Scotland. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Boonecoboy@aol.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: [Boyd] BOYD OBIT > Published in the Decatur IL Herald & Review on 6/5/2005. > ORVAL EUGENE "GENE" BOYD > MOUNT ZION - Orval Eugene (Gene) Boyd, 66, of Dunlap, formerly of Mount Zion, > died Friday (June 3, 2005) in Denver, Colo., after a seven-month battle with > esophageal cancer. Services will be at 10 a.m. Tuesday in Woolsey-Wilton > Funeral > Home, Peoria. Visitation will be 5 to 7 p.m. Monday. Burial will be in Willow > Brook > Cemetery, Fisher. Memorials: University Hospital Cancer Center, Box 6508, > Mail Stop F485, Aurora, CO 80045. Mr. Boyd was born Oct. 21, 1938, in Normal, the > son of Orval and Alice Haile Boyd. He served in the U.S. Marine Corps from > 1956-1958. He worked at York Radio and TV in Decatur for 18 years and retired > from working at Klaus Electronics in Peoria as a sales manager after 20 years of > service. After retirement, he worked at OSF as a courier. He married Judy > Benningfield on June 11, > 1961, in Elliott. Surviving are his wife, sons, Brett Boyd and wife Michelle > of Fisher; > Eric Boyd of Denver, Colo.; and Brad Boyd and wife Susan of Denver, Colo.; > mother, > Alice of Rantoul; and grandchildren, Brandon, Tyler, and Ella. He was > preceded in > death by his father. This terrible disease took his life, but his spirit > lives on in everyone who knew him. We will all remember his everlasting smile. > Online guest > book at www.legacy.com/herald-review/LegacyHome.asp" > > Note: son Brett Boyd resides in Fishers, IN, not Fisher, IL > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

The Robert Boyd born about 1700 who married Elizabeth/Katherine Porterfield is as far back as I can get concerning my genealogy. Does anyone on this list have any additional information concerning this family? Early last fall I finally found someone who verified that I indeed had the right family concerning my Boyds. Thanks very much, Gwendalynn Gohlke Dunn P.S. My mother was a Boyd