Excerpted from History of Kilmarnock, 1864, Archibald M'Kay Panic in the Church On Sabbath, the 18th of October, 1801, an occurence which will long form a principal feature in the annals of Kilmarnock, took place in the Low Church. This building, which stood nearly on the site of the present Low Church, was erected when the population of the town and parish was very inconsiderable, and at the time of the accident, was greatly deficient in point of accommodation. The plan on which it was constructed was far from being judicious. The passages were few in number and limited in breadth; the stairs leading to the galleries were within the church, and were steep and narrow. Their outlets, too, were by the same doors that led to the area; and much inconvenience was thereby occasioned, both at the entry and dismissal of the congregation. The poorer portion of the hearers usually sat on temporary seats in the passages, which added not a little to the general disorder. The substantiality of the building as a whole was likewise doubted by some individuals; and a prophecy had been long prevalent in the locality that it was destined to fall upon the congregation. This prediction, with the supposed insecurity of the house, tended, in no small degree, when crowded, to create alarm in such minds as were not fortified by reason and reflection. On the day of the calamity, the Chapel, or High Church, as it is now called, and some of the churches in neighbouring parishes, were page 105 vacant; and many persons belonging to these flocked to the Low Church, attracted by the popularity of Dr Mackinlay, who was then in his zenith of his fame as a preacher. The house was, therefore, crowded to excess; but nothing occured during the forenoon service to disturb the tranquillity of the audience; and when the bell announced the hour of meeting in the after part of the day, they again as- sembled, unconscious of any casualty being about to happen; but nothing is more uncertain than the term of human life. As the poet beautifully says, "The spider's most attenuated thread Is cord, is cable, to man's hold of life." The last sound of the bell had scarcely ceased to vibrate on the ear, and the minister was just about to enter the church, when a small piece of plaster fell from the ceiling, or when, as some said, a seat cracked in one of the galleries. A cry was instantly raised that the building was falling;1 and the alarm, spreading with the rapidity of lightning, created a scene of confusion and death almost incredible, and such as no language can accurately delineate. A number who were seated in the lower part of the house immediately made their escape to the outside; those in the galleries were not so fortunate; they rushed to the staircases with a view of flying from the supposed danger; but in their wild precipitation they became so jammed together that one of the railings gave way, and many fell into the area, suffocating those on whom they descended, and dreadfully crushing and maiming each other. The doors at the foot of the stairs folded inward, and were unfortunately closed by the sudden rush that was made towards them; and all egress, at these places, being thereby prevented, despair was added to dread; the strong, unconscious of their own recklessness, trampled on the weak; body lay piled upon body; and the house resounded with the shriek of despondency, the wail of wo, and the moan of death. Never, perhaps, was exhibited a more singular instance of the direful effects of fear and credulity. Some, believing that the prophecy was about to be fulfilled, and that the galleries were falling, threw themselves into the body of the church; some leapt from the windows into the graveyard; and others, conceiving that death was inevitable, stood riveted to the spot. Two or three individuals, whose minds were more collected, ascended the pulpit to exhort the congregation to order and quiet; but such was the bewildering feeling which the scene before them inspired, that, like the others, they soon became victims to the general terror, and hastily abandoned their position. So great indeed, was the delusion, that many, after rushing to the street, durst not pause for a moment to look behind, lest they should be crushed to death by the walls, which their disordered senses led them to believe were falling to pieces; and it may be mentioned, as a striking instance of the force of the imagination, that one individual declared to the minister, whom he met near the church, that the steeple itself was tumbling to the ground, though it was 1. According to the Session Records a similar panic arose in the parish church in 1735, but no mention is made of any person having been injured. Page 106 then and still is, entire and substantial. The reverand gentlemen, struck with surprise at the tumultuous scene before him, and dreading that the consequences would prove fatal to many, clasped his hands in an attitude of devotion, and ejaculated with a pitying voice-- "My people! oh, my people!" In the meantime, intelligence of the catastrophe spread into every corner of the town. All were overwhelmed with consternation. For the preservation of order the Royal Kilmarnock Volunteers were summoned to the spot, already thronged by hundreds of the inhabitants inquiring anxiously for their friends, their relatives, or their neighbours. In consequence of the number who, stood pressed together or lay prostate on the stairs, many were still confined to the galleries; and it was suggested that their release might be affected from the windows by ladders, which were instantly procured; but so general was the panic that few could be found with sufficient resolution to place them against the walls. At length some indiviuals actuated by feelings of humanity, ventured into the interior to alleviate, if possible, the agonies of the sufferers. The scene that presented itself to their view was peculiarly distressing. At the foot of each of the stairs was a mass of persons of both sexes lay wedged together, maimed, dead, or dying. With considerable diff- iculty one layer of bodies was removed from above another, and the appalling announcement was ultimately made, that twenty-nine had breathed their last. Some of them were so disfigured that their friends could only recognise them by their apparel. The bodies of two of the females were shockingly injured, their breasts being deeply marked by the heavy shoes of an individual, whose "brutal hurry," during the calamity, is not yet forgotten.1 The bodies of the dead were carried into the burial-ground, and also such persons as were severely injured; and here another scene was exhibited, not less dismal than that which had been witnessed in the church. In one place might be seen some poor sufferers, writhing in convulsions; in another, individuals sunk in a state of utter in- sensibility. Some were weeping over the corpse of a beloved father or mother--some were mourning in all the bitterness of wo over the lifeless form of a son or daughter---others poured forth their 1. In an account of the accident, published at the time by the authority of the magistrates, the names of those killed are thus mentioned: "Kilmarnock Parish.---Townhead quarter--William Muir, glover; Jean Paterson; John Logan, shoemaker; Mary Reid, dau. of William Reid; Thomas Abraham; James Gilchrist, shoemaker; Janet Dickie, dau. of Joseph Dickie; Andrew Aitken, staymaker; Margaret Wilson, dau. of David Wilson; Widow Howat; a dau. of Robert Kechan; Widow Mary Taylor; Janet dau. of widow M'Intosh; John Deal, weaver from Ireland; Charles Wilson, servant; William Smith, weaver; Margaret Stevenson, widow of James Smith; William Tannahill, wright; Willian Baird, weaver; dau. of James Wilson, plasterer; George Guthry, son of John Guthry, at Mount; a son of widow Bell. From Kilmaurs Parish: Mary, a dau. of Walter Smith; Jean Stewart; Jean dau. of William Anderson; James Fairlie, farmer; Janet, dau. of James Muir; Janet, dau. of David Brown, collier; and a dau. of John Stevenson. page 107 sorrows by the remains of a brother or a sister. In short, the corpse-strewed ground---the blood-stained garments of the victims--- and the rueful countenances of the multitude---rendered the scene awfully impressive; and, as we have heard a spectator remark, gave to it the sad characteristics of a battlefield, covered with the wounded, the dying, and the dead. It was also affecting to behold the removal of the bodies to the homes they had so lately left in all the cheerfulness of health. Some were attended by groups of sorrowing relatives and acquaintances; others, by only two or three mourners; and, in one instance, an individual was observed, unaccompanied, carrying the corpse of a brother, and weeping like a child as he went along. But the picture, sad as it is, assumes a more gloomy and touching appearance, when the distressful cases of individuals are considered. One man, when humanely endeavouring to rescue others from danger, was overwhelmed by the dreadful pressure, and smothered on the spot. A young lady, whose father had caught her in his arms, despairingly exclaimed, "We are gone!" and was instantly suffocated. Another female, when a young man was attempting to save her, cried in the same desponding tone, "You can do me no good!" and was immediately crushed to death; and so great was the breach made of one little circle of six acquaintances who had met together in the morning, that only two escaped with their lives. It is rather remarkable that no infant, though several were in the church, sustained the smallest injury; on the contrary, after the tumult had subsided, a little child, whose mother had left it in despair, or had been driven from it during the commotion, was found safely and calmly sleeping in one of the pews. As formerly observed, an unusual sensation was created in the com- munity; and the gloom of sorrow appeared to deepen as the evening approached, and as the names of the departed, most of whom were amiable persons, became generally known. Night came on---serene and beautifully arrayed by the beams of the silver moon; but no heart was at ease; and small parties might still be seen hurrying from street to street, to administer relief or consolation to the surviving sufferers. Here and there, groups of individuals, with countenances shaded by sadness, stood earnestly conversing together. In fine, death and distress were the all-engrossing themes; and the voice of mourning was heard, not only in the abodes of the widow and the orphan, but in the dwellings of many others, whose grief had been awakened by the heart-rending occurence. One of the injured (Mrs Milroy). who survived the disaster, died soon after; the others, amounting to about eighty, were by proper care and medical assistance, somewhat restored; though many of them carried to the grave the marks or scars they had received on that melancholy occasion. As was to be expected, the causes and consequences of the calamity gave rise to many vague and visionary stories; one of which was to the effect, that on that day several persons had seen a coach, decorated with the sable emblems of mourning, and drawn by six horses, pass through the centre of the burying-ground, and that no less a personage than the devil was seated within it. 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page 159 in the direction of the current coming from the garden. Again it made for the shed, and again struck the door, forcing it open. Pettigrew, still holding by the cart, which was now rapidly entering the opening it had made, perceived that the opposite gable had by this time been carried away, and that he would be borne into the main stream behind. With great presence of mind, or rather, perhaps, in the madness of despair, just as the cart was entering the building, he tore a slate or two out of the roof at the top of the door, and got hold of a slate-nail with the forefinger of his left hand. The cart, too, on which his feet still rested, was delayed in its course by his legs pressing against the eaves of the house; and, fortunately, at this moment he seized the lead of one of the skylight windows with the other hand, and raised himself to the roof, where he sat with the water within a few feet of him. Pettigrew now turned his thoughts upon poor Bruce, whom he observed standing by an outhouse, about seven yards from the spot where he had last seen him. A range of buildings adjoining now gave way, carrying with them the side wall of the house on which Pettigrew was sitting; fortunately, the roof had a connection with another house---the only one left entire within his reach. Still his position was perilous in the extreme; but with a fortitude that never forsook him , he hastened to the more secure roof, and remained there, with the waters rolling wildly about him. Bruce was still where Pettigrew had last seen him; but he soon saw him lifted by the waters and borne along a short distance till he came in contact with a pump, which he clasped with both arms. The window of a greenhouse now drifted towards him, and by means of it he raised himself to the top of the pump. Mr Pettigrew shouted at him to get on the roof of house at hand; but he had scarcely said the words when the house was swept away. Bruce continued to stand by the pump, grasping it and the window-frame as the only means now left him of support; but, alas for the frailty of man's hopes! a large fruit tree, which had been torn from the garden, was swept towards him by the ruthless current, and, with one fell stroke, it forced him away, blasting the expectations of many anxious onlookers, who could render no assistance. All hope, however, was not yet gone; for still alive, he was carried a little below the bend of the river, where, with the grasp of death, he clung to a growing tree, reviving the almost extinguished hopes of the spectators. Pettigrew shouted to him to climb the tree; and Mr Cuthbertson's son and others repeatedly threw a rope to him; but the awfulness of his position seemed to have deprived him of all energy and sense of recollection; for, though the rope fell within a few feet of him; he was unable to avail himself of the advantage thus afforded; and, in a short time, he was swept away. After the water had somewhat abated, hid lifeless body was found at the corner of Green Street. Pettigrew's position was still awfully perilous, as he had no way of escape from the frail tenement on which he sat, and around him and against which the waves were beating in great fury. Casting his eyes up the water, he saw the large boiler already mentioned, which seemed the evil genius of the flood, tumbling towards him: he trembled for the consequences; for he thought that one stroke of it against the house might shiver it to atoms, and engulf him in the yawning deep. For a moment it paused, as if planning his instant destruction; then, as if by mercy, it floated west of him, and made its way down river. Pettigrew remained on the roof till the flood subsided, when he descended in a state of great exhaustion. The horse which he and the unfortunate Bruce had ventured their own lives to save, was borne down by the current, and afterwards found dead. Farther down the stream, a house formerly used as a glue-work, at Townhead Bridge, was levalled with the ground; but the bridge itself withstood the power of the torrent---the parapets being all that were destroyed. The large boiler, after pressing a short time against the arch, went crushing beneath it, and came bounding out at the other side with fearful velocity. Messrs Brown, Merry, and M'Gregor's printwork (now Mr Higginbotham's) immediately below the bridge, was deeply inundated, and the loss which they sustained was very great. A wright's shop in connection with the work was so sapped that it fell into ruins a short time after the waters had abated. Almost the whole of the wall which enclosed the ground on the opposite side of the river was also driven away. A little farther down, the dam of the Messr Blackwood's mill became almost a total wreck; and large pieces of solid rock behind it were dashed down the channel. At Ladeside there was considerable havoc; and the lives of the inhabitants were so endangered, that many had to force their way out by the back windows to the higher ground in Soulis Street. The public works situated between Ladeside and the Flesh Market Bridge, namely Mr Crooks' tanworks, Messrs Gregory and Thomson's carpet factory, and Mr Wilson's woolen mill (now Mr Somerville's) sustained very great damage. A dye-house, in the same locality, belonging to Messrs Brown and M'Laren, carpet-makers, was entirely swept down. The Academy was much flooded; and the wall behind it, with its iron railing, was thrown about in fragments. Immediately below the Academy, at the house next to the Corn Exchange Buildings, the water was six feet seven inches above the level of the street. The house of the late mrs Finnie, on the other side of the river, was completely deluged; and Mrs Finnie herself was in great danger, but was rescued by the noble exertions of two individuals named Gray and Richmond. We come now to the Flesh Market Bridge, situated nearly in the centre of the town; and here, perhaps, life and property were in greater danger than at any other place along the whole course of the river. The bridge, which was built in 1770,is connected with a range of other bridges running behind it, on which the Council Chambers, the Police Cells, and other houses are erected. The arch, or rather arches, of these structures are somewhat flat, giving to the passage beneath the appearance of a confined tunnel. At the mouth of this passage the water gathered to a great height, overturning the walls along the river, and the parapet of the bridge, and rushing into Green Street. Waterloo Street, the Cross, Guard Lane, Market Lane, and thence down King Street. Most of the inhabitants being in bed, the alarm created by the cry, "The water is flooding the town!" was beyond all description. Men, Women, and children started from their slumbers, and, almost in a state of nudity, ran in all directions seeking the more elevated spots; while others, terror-stricken, were unable to move from their position. As if to add to the horror of the page 161 scene, the large boiler before spoken of floated into Waterloo Street, striking and injuring the walls of some of the houses. For a short time it was turned round and round by the edying waters, and was again borne back into the river and dashed against the bridge, which many thought would fall to pieces before it. At last, on the water subsiding a little, it went crushing beneath the arch, emitting, as it disappeared, the most terrific sounds. It ultimately rested at a short distance below Sandbed dam. The furniture and other goods belonging to various shopkeepers in Waterloo Street were either carried away or rendered almost useless. Life itself was in great peril. One family, unable to escape by the doors of their house, began to knock the back out of a wall-press, with the view of finding a way through a neighbour's rooms; and what is rather curious, and shows the despairing state into which many were thrown, that same neighbour was, at the very instant, using similar means on the other side of the wall, in order to escape through their apartments. At last, by their united efforts, the wished-for passage was effected. Still the means of escape had to be sought. Ultimately, one of the party forced out a back window, and leapt upon a stair on the opposite side of the court. He then secured a plank, which he laid from the stair to the window, and by this means the others escaped to safety. As we stated above, the Council Chambers and the Police Cells are erected on one of the bridges, and fears were entertained that these might give way. In the cells were twenty-one prisoners, male and female; but, fortunately, the keeper, Mr Geddes, was early apprised of the rising of the water, and, by praiseworthy exertions, succeeded in rescuing them. The prisoners were conducted to the new Court-house in St Marnock Street; and so perilous was their way down King Street, that three of them were nearly swept away. As an evidence of the danger the bridge was supposed to be in, we may mention that Mr Hamilton, town-clerk, hurried through the flooded streets to the Council-house, and brought away all the valuable papers. The Cross was covered with an entire sheet of water; and all the shops, particularly those in Regent Street and Cheapside, were more or less inundated. So violent was the rush of the torrent from Waterloo Street into the Cross, that some of the shop-doors were burst open; and at the Old Bridge behind Victoria Place, the water boiled up in a fearful manner, taking away the back wall of a dwelling-house, and flooding Bank Street to the base of the Low Church steeple. At Sandbed Street, the iron-railed wall running along the river, and a considerable portion of the wall of the garden behind the Union Bank, were overthrown. The wooden bridge also, leading from Sandbed Street to Nelson Street, was completely carried off; and at the same place, the workshop of Mr George Connell was laid in ruins. A large cistern, which had been borne down from the dye-work of Messrs Brown and M'Laren, was driven into one of the lanes diverging from King Street to Sandbed Street; and here a considerable piece of the causeway was scooped out, evincing the resistless power of even the side-currents of the flood. To those who could look upon it without thoughts of danger, King Street presented a noble spectacle. It was converted into a broad Page 162 river, which rolled along in sullen grandeur, carrying upon its waves trees, planks of timber, tubs, casks, chairs, and other articles; but its very murmur seemed to proclaim that the town was destined to be swept away. In one or two places stones were torn from the pavement; and a lamp-post near Dr Paxton's house (now Mr J. Alexander's) was laid prostrate as if it had been a reed. So rapidly, indeed, did the torrent sweep along, that two men were borne off their feet, and narrowly escaped being drowned. They were extricated by the active exertions of the late Mrs David Brown, and some others. To particularize the merchants whose shops and cellars were flooded along King Street would be invidious, as a vast quanity of goods belonging to all, from the Cross downward, was greatly damaged or destroyed. The appearance of Titchfield Street was similar to that of King Street. Douglas Street was perhaps more flooded that either, as not only the water coming Titchfield Street, but that from the main river, at the west end, rushed into it, creating much alarm, and putting life itself in danger. A little below this spot the wooden bridge at West Shaw Street was borne away; and several gardens in the vicinity were greatly injured. In that of Mr James Stevenson the water was two feet six inches deep. The property of the late Mr Templeton, shawl-manufacturer, likewise suffered materially. The pillars of the gate leading to the house were overthrown, and the house itself flooded to a considerable depth before the inmates could effect their escape. In the same locality, the nursery grounds of Messrs Dreghorn and Aitken were deluged to a considerable extent. Even below the junction of the river with the Irvine, where the water had greater scope, the crops in several holms were greatly damaged. Such is a brief outline of the ravages committed by the flood on the memorable morning of the 14th of July, 1852. We may add that the torrent continued in all its fury from about four o'clock till six, after which it gradually subsided, exposing to the eye, at various places we have mentioned, the melancholy spectacle of wreck and ruin. (Taken from "History of Kilmarnock", Archibald M'Kay, 1864.) I have copies of the book if anyone is interested.

FLOOD IN KILMARNOCK Page 155 ………it has been the fate of Kilmarnock to be visited at various periods by fearful calamities. But the most disastrous of these, at least in the destruction of property, was the inundation of the town on the morning of the 14th July, 1852. There exists, indeed, no record, so far as we are aware, of such an event having previously occurred in the locality.(1) The weather, for some time before the occurrence, was unusually warm and oppressive; and though the more observing of the inhabitants expected that such intense heat would probably be followed by a great thunder-storm, yet no one ever dreamed that a flood so mighty in its strength would rise so instantaneously, and lay waste in its course fields, bridges, mills, dams, houses, gardens, and orchards. Early on the morning of the calamity, thunder of unusual loudness was heard rolling over the town; and as it continued it increased in depth and solemnity till its peals became terrific. At short intervals the lightning flashed so vividly as to apall the stoutest of hearts. The rain, too, poured in copious floods, swelling the Kilmarnock Water to such an unprecedented height as to lead to the belief either that the reservoir at Lochgoin had burst its banks, or that a waterspout had fallen on the moors above Fenwick, where the rivulets that feed the river take their rise.2 Such, however, was not the case; for, on these places being visited on the following day, no trace of such occurrences could be discovered. But those residing in the moors had never witnesses so dreadful a morning, even in the bleakest and wildest season of the year. In the words of Milton, "The thickened sky Like a dark ceiling stood." (1) We have heard it stated that, at one time during the latter half of last century, the Kilmarnock Water rose to such a height that the road to Haw's Well (which many must still remember, and which took its name from Robert Haw or Hall, whose residence was near it) was rendered impassable. At a later period Glencairn Square and the adjoining streets were twice flooded by the rising of the Irvine and Kilmarnock Waters, and once by the overflowing of the Irvine alone. (2) The Kilmarnock Water is formed by the confluence of various rivulets, the principal of which have different local designations, but are generally known by the names of the Borland, the Craufurdland, and the Croilburn. The two former have their sources in Kingswell Moor, about eight or nine miles from Kilmarnock. The latter rises in the same tract of moorland, to the south-east of Lochgoin,and joins the Craufurdland about a mile below Waterside Mill. The Borland, or as it is sometimes called, the Fenwick Water, was not so remarkably swollen on the morning of the inundation as the other two. Page 156 The peals of thunder and the gleams of lighting were frequent and fearful; and the rain rushed down so impetuously that the very win dows of heaven appeared to be opened. Thus copiously supplied, the different branches of the Kilmarnock Water---particularly the Croilburn and the Craufurdland---were soon greatly increased in volume, and rolled on in awful strength, washing the soil from many fields, forcing in many cases new channels for themselves, and bearing upon their brown, turbulent bosoms large planks of timber, trees, and other evidences of their desolating power. To note minutely all the ravages committed by the inundation would be a difficult task; we shall, therefore, only endeavour to record the more prominent---following the course of the destruction, and basing our description on the testimony of witnesses, or on personal ob- servation. At the farm of Hairshaw Mill, situated on the Croilburn, a little above its junction with the Craufurdland, the power of the torrent was very remarkable. Part of a field, planted with potatoes, was so scooped out and filled with water as to appear like a loch; and at the back of the ruins of an old corn-mill, near the farm-house, a pool about eight feet deep was formed in the bed of the stream. A stone about six tons in weight, that had lain there from time immemorial, was borne away; and hundreds of ponderous boulders were scattered about. At several places along the edge of the stream the banks were so broken down, that the water-course was made three times broader than it was before the flood. A holm, belonging to the same farm, which had been known to yield fifty-five bolls of potatoes in one year, was so overspread with stones that we scarcely could believe that it had ever been arable. Hardly a green leaf could be seen on it to tell that vegetation had formerly been there. It resembled the rough bed of some dried-up river. Two stone bridges, we may add, that spanned the Croilburn, were completely demolished. The first great havoc committed on the Craufurdland Water was at Mr Alexander's carding and spinning mill, about two miles above Fenwick. The dam was swept away, and the water rushed into the mill, filling it to the depth of six feet six inches, and lifting from their places various pieces of machinery, one of which was about two tons in weight. The height of the water at the bridge beside the mill was sixteen feet. The strength of the current was here so great that a stone, which was lying near the same spot, and which was supposed to be ten tons in weight, was carried away. The torrent swept on in its resistless course, flooding some fine fields of grain, and washing down large portions of the banks. Dalraith Bridge, a strong structure, was borne away. At Raith Mill, part of a garden was destroyed; and several trees that had stood the "pelting of the pitiless storm" for many years, were torn from their roots as if they had been mere saplings. At Sandbed Spinning Mill, then occupied by Mr J. Raeburn, bonnet-maker, the destruction was immense. A boiler belonging to the work, about a ton and a half in weight, was lifted by the current and carried as far as Craufurdland Castle. A fine orchard was entirely laid waste. Here the flood rose even above the walls of some of the cottages, though, fortunately, Page 157 the inmates had been roused from their slumbers by the peals of thunder that preceded the inundation, otherwise loss of life may have occurced. In tumultuous fury the river hastened onward, lashing the woody banks behind Craufurdland Castle, and uprooting trees, or laying bare their old fantastic roots. The next great damage was at Assloss, the property of John Parker Esq. Here the flood broke into a fine holm, partly planted as an orchard, overspreading it with vast masses of stones, some of which were a ton in weight. Farther on, it laid waste another piece of land, planted with fruit trees and bushes. It then burst open a door leading into the principal garden, through which it rushed, breaking down a large portion of the garden-wall. Near Dean Castle, the Duke's Bridge, a neat wooden erection, was borne away entire; and here the water must have been risen to a great height, as we observed it had wreathed the upper branches of some large trees with many weeds. Gaining strength by the accession of the Borland Water, a little below this point, the flood now assumed a still more formidable aspect; rushing on, it drove away portions of the banks as if they had been wreaths of snow, and in its fury tore up massive stones, tossing them about like so many pebbles. The Kilmarnock Foundry dam was next demolished; and the scene which the foundry houses presented was awful in the extreme. At the back of the work the river winds somewhat abruptly; and this circumstance, together with the rising ground on the opposite side, tended in some measure to increase the rush of water towards the houses. Fortunately some of the occupants, like those in other places, had been kept awake by the rolling of the thunder; others had heard the sound of the approaching deluge, and gave the alarm. Considering the great and rapid rise of the water, which was about ten feet deep at the manager's residence, it is truly wonderful that many lives were not lost. As it was, the inmates were in great peril, many of them, among whom was a lady with an infant clinging to her breast, having to flee for safety in their night garments through the muddy waters, which were rushing in at every door.1 1. We may mention that, after the inundation, the shaft of an old coal-pit, cradled with stone and of a circular form, was discovered in the bed of the river, at the back of the foundry. Considerable surprise was created by its appearance in such a situation, where no work of the kind could be wrought with safety. There is an old tradition, however, which the discovery seems to confirm, that the water at one time ran in a different direction, namely, to the east of the foundry; and the probability is, that the pit would be sunk at that period. We may likewise state, that about a hundred years ago, according to another tradition, while eight or nine men were employed in a pit at Townholm, in the same locality, water burst suddenly upon them from an "old waste" and only one escaped with his life. This story also has apparently been confirmed; for several old skeletons and antique implements of labour, which were no doubt those of the drowned men were found in March, 1863, in an "old coal-pit. Page 158 The inhabitants of the Townholm, the street leading to the Foundry, were in a similar state of danger. Panic-struck by a visitation so little expected, many of them abandoned their houses and property, and hurried to the higher grounds in the vicinity, in a state of utter despair. One man and his wife, unable to get out of their house, were obliged to mount upon a table, and even there, were several feet in water. In the same room, a bed on which a child was sleeping, was lifted from its position and floated. The child cried, but soon fell into a sound slumber, and remained in that state, dry and unhurt, during the continuance of the flood. The woolen factory of the Messrs Laughland, Roxburgh, and Gilchrist, which is situated in this locality, received considerable injury. A large quanity of goods were destroyed; and the machinery likewise was greatly damaged; even the iron frames of the windows were shivered to pieces. Some idea of the strength of the current may be formed from the fact that, at this quarter, a huge boiler was lifted from its site in Mr Donald's hook-work, and borne down the public street, which was here flooded to the debth of five feet. Buoyant as some light canoe, it sailed along, adding to the intense sublimity of the scene, yet filling the spectators with horror, as they naturally conceived that it would be fearfully destructive to everything with which it might come in contact. The next scene of destruction was the property of Mr Thomas Cuthbertson, carpet-maker, Craighead. The garden-wall was laid prostrate; the garden itself was converted into a ruinous waste; and much valuable property, was destroyed or swallowed up in the wide vortex of waters. At this place, a scene of awful interest was exhibited, the incidents of which we will endeavour to relate as we heard them from the lips of one of the sufferers, Alexander Pettigrew. Pettigrew and two other individuals, named James Bruce and William Campbell, proceeded to Mr Cuthbertson's stable, in which the water was three or four feet deep, with the view of saving two horses. Campbell succeeded in getting one of them away. Bruce endeavoured to rescue the other; and Pettigrew, who was engaged keeping open the stable-door, began to think he was long in accomplishing his task, and hastened to assist him. While they were loosening the horse from its stall, the garden-wall, at a short distance, gave way; and an additional body of water, about seven feet deep, rolled down on them. Bruce at this moment had hold of the horse; but the rush of the tor- rent separated them. He then endeavoured to gain the wall of the next house, which he reached and clung to, unable to go farther. By this time Pettigrew had seized the horse, and was able to keep himself above the water by clinging to its neck. In this position he was driven about for the space of ten minutes. At last, seeing no likihood of saving himself by means of the horse, which seemed unwilling to leave the spot, he began to despair, when a long-bodied cart drifted towards him. Inspired with fresh hopes, he instantly raised himself from the animal, and, with one desperate effort, sprang upon the cart, thinking it would serve as a little bark to bear him out of danger. But his weight coming suddenly on it forced it against the door of the cart-shed, which made it bound back again

Thanks for making this available to all of us, Rich. Sounds like the rainfall may have been similar to the recent 37" in 24 hours in India! Bob Bob and Mary Boyd in Auburn

Thank you so much for the Kilmarnock/Boyd site. I was particularly interested in the weaving industry there (my first colonist, Andrew, established a weaving business in Frederick, MD) and the poets of Kilmarnock (my grandfather and I are both poets) Anna Grace Boyd Foster On Aug 3, 2005, at 11:28 PM, bschode wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm a bit late jumping into the Kilmarnock thread but I thought I > would pass the following on to those who may be interested. > > Kilmarnock Churches...Lots of interesting information concerning > Kilmarnock, including it's churches...see: > http://fp.ayrshireroots.plus.com/Towns/Kilmarnock/Kilmarnock.htm > Scroll down to "Churches". > > > Kilmarnock Churchyards/Cemeteries: > Riccarton Cemetery ( 1876) Hurlford Road, Kilmarnock > St Andrews Churchyard, St Andrews Street, Kilmarnock > Kilmarnock Cemetery (1875) Grassyard Road, Kilmarnock > Kilmaurs Cemetery (1876) Kilmarnock Road, Kilmaurs > > > Genuki also has information about Kilmarnock churches and > cemeteries...see: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/AYR/Kilmarnock/index.html#Cemeteries > > ............................... > > Also, I thought I would include the following IGI batch numbers in > case they would be helpful to someone. > > IGI Batch Numbers - Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland > [Extracted records] > > Births or Christenings: > C115971 1855-1875 > C115972 1640-1740 > C115974 1740-1820 > C115975 1819-1854 > C115976 1789-1854 > C115977 1777-1829 > C115978 1777-1829 > > Marriages: > M115971 1855-1875 > M115972 1687-1730 > M115974 1730-1770 > M115975 1820-1854 > -------------------------------------- > > Kind Regards, > Karen from Ohio, USA > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

Hi Everyone, I'm a bit late jumping into the Kilmarnock thread but I thought I would pass the following on to those who may be interested. Kilmarnock Churches...Lots of interesting information concerning Kilmarnock, including it's churches...see: http://fp.ayrshireroots.plus.com/Towns/Kilmarnock/Kilmarnock.htm Scroll down to "Churches". Kilmarnock Churchyards/Cemeteries: Riccarton Cemetery ( 1876) Hurlford Road, Kilmarnock St Andrews Churchyard, St Andrews Street, Kilmarnock Kilmarnock Cemetery (1875) Grassyard Road, Kilmarnock Kilmaurs Cemetery (1876) Kilmarnock Road, Kilmaurs Genuki also has information about Kilmarnock churches and cemeteries...see: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/AYR/Kilmarnock/index.html#Cemeteries ............................... Also, I thought I would include the following IGI batch numbers in case they would be helpful to someone. IGI Batch Numbers - Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland [Extracted records] Births or Christenings: C115971 1855-1875 C115972 1640-1740 C115974 1740-1820 C115975 1819-1854 C115976 1789-1854 C115977 1777-1829 C115978 1777-1829 Marriages: M115971 1855-1875 M115972 1687-1730 M115974 1730-1770 M115975 1820-1854 -------------------------------------- Kind Regards, Karen from Ohio, USA

And early on Jr. did not mean the son of someone, just the younger person. Sometimes the "Sr." was an uncle or cousin!!! Jane in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen McMillan" <diggingupbones@cfl.rr.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: [Boyd] Jr and the younger > Didn't they some times refer to them as John the younger instead of Jr? And > when did Jr become the Senior and his son become Jr? Oh boy! Do we have a > lot to worry about! > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >

In a message dated 7/30/2005 10:03:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, JodieK444@aol.com writes: Although it is maddening and frustrating to search through all the Johns, Roberts, Elizabeths and other common names, you can usually latch onto one child whose name is just a little different and it is well worth the research time to check it out. I can agree to that! I searched for years for the marriage record between ancestors James Laughlin and Josephine Shupe, with no luck. Finally just entered his name and 'Josephine" and there she was! Last name interpreted wrong by index compilers. Madora

The Castle Garden Database is now online. This is *Free* access to the database of information on 10 million immigrants from 1830 through 1892 [the year Ellis Island opened]. According to the site the database is not yet complete...but they certainly have done a great job so far! You can search the database here: http://www.castlegarden.org/ A search of the Boyd surname = 2381 results! :-) Kind Regards, Karen from Ohio, USA

Hello I am trying to find any info on a Robert Boyd. I know he lived in Alabama and died in Franklin Co Alabama. He was married to a Lydia Whitaker when he died. Does anyone have any info on this person or can anyone lead me where to look for info on him. Thank you for your time. Stacy Dennis

Did you go to Kilmarnock? Or do you have a published source. I remember with frustration being in Edinburgh right near the public records office used by many genealogists and not being able to go there to work. On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:35 PM, Jan Curtis wrote: > Anna - I'm not sure if any of them immigrated. I got the connection > from > the Kilmarnock Parish records. > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Boyd] My Boyd in Kilmarnock > > >> Was Thomas the one who immigrated? How did you make the connection to >> Ayr? I'm pretty sure that's where my line came from but can't find any >> link. >> Anna Grace Boyd Foster >> On Aug 1, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Jan Curtis wrote: >> >>> My Thomas Boyd married Agnes Lammie, 4 Oct. 1690, Kilmarnock, Ayr, >>> parish >>> record. >>> >>> Their children were: >>> >>> Jean Boyd, chr. 19 Dec. 1691 >>> Agnes Boyd, chr 23 Nov. 1693 >>> Thomas Boyd, chr 16 May 1696 >>> John Boyd, chr 4 Feb 1700 >>> Margaret Boyd, chr. 1 Nov. 1702 >>> Janet Boyd, chr. 17 Dec. 1704.....my ancestor >>> Elizabeth Boyd, chr. 16 Sept. 1708 >>> >>> Some of them could have immigrated to the U.S. I think my Janet Boyd >>> died >>> before her husband immigrated to PA. I have his Will, and he named >>> wife >>> Sarah. He brought their sons with him, John, Samuel, William. >>> >>> William was my ancestor. >>> >>> JanCurtis >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "FK & DA Dolphin" <delphinus@actrix.co.nz> >>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:49 PM >>> Subject: [Boyd] John Boyd of Lin >>> >>> >>>> Seeking information on the parentage of John Boyd of Lin, Merchant >>>> in >>> Irvine, descendant of the Boyds of Pitcon, born mid 1660s. Married >>> Jean >>> Arth/Airth. >>>> >>>> Issue: Anna Boyd b. 1683 >>>> Jean " b. 1684 >>>> John " b. 1688 >>>> Thomas " b. 1689 >>>> >>>> Jean Boyd, attendant to the Countess of Kilmarnock was married in >>>> 1703 to >>> William Moris Apothecary/Surgeon in Kilmarnock, "in the Earl of >>> Kilmarnock's >>> House", witnesses, Charles Dalrymple of Craglands in Kilmarnock and >>> Robert >>> Rogest, Apothecary in Kilmarnock. Minister presiding, Mr. Francis >>> Finlayson". (Information from family oral and written history. That >>> in >>> quotation marks taken from the marriage entry for Jean Boyd and >>> William >>> Moris in the Parish Records.) >>>> >>>> Dorothy Anne Dolphin >>>> (7th great grand-daughter of John Boyd of Lin). >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>>> RING OF BOYDS >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>>> >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>>> trees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >>> >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >>> trees >>> >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

Anna - I'm not sure if any of them immigrated. I got the connection from the Kilmarnock Parish records. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Boyd] My Boyd in Kilmarnock > Was Thomas the one who immigrated? How did you make the connection to > Ayr? I'm pretty sure that's where my line came from but can't find any > link. > Anna Grace Boyd Foster > On Aug 1, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Jan Curtis wrote: > > > My Thomas Boyd married Agnes Lammie, 4 Oct. 1690, Kilmarnock, Ayr, > > parish > > record. > > > > Their children were: > > > > Jean Boyd, chr. 19 Dec. 1691 > > Agnes Boyd, chr 23 Nov. 1693 > > Thomas Boyd, chr 16 May 1696 > > John Boyd, chr 4 Feb 1700 > > Margaret Boyd, chr. 1 Nov. 1702 > > Janet Boyd, chr. 17 Dec. 1704.....my ancestor > > Elizabeth Boyd, chr. 16 Sept. 1708 > > > > Some of them could have immigrated to the U.S. I think my Janet Boyd > > died > > before her husband immigrated to PA. I have his Will, and he named > > wife > > Sarah. He brought their sons with him, John, Samuel, William. > > > > William was my ancestor. > > > > JanCurtis > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "FK & DA Dolphin" <delphinus@actrix.co.nz> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:49 PM > > Subject: [Boyd] John Boyd of Lin > > > > > >> Seeking information on the parentage of John Boyd of Lin, Merchant in > > Irvine, descendant of the Boyds of Pitcon, born mid 1660s. Married Jean > > Arth/Airth. > >> > >> Issue: Anna Boyd b. 1683 > >> Jean " b. 1684 > >> John " b. 1688 > >> Thomas " b. 1689 > >> > >> Jean Boyd, attendant to the Countess of Kilmarnock was married in > >> 1703 to > > William Moris Apothecary/Surgeon in Kilmarnock, "in the Earl of > > Kilmarnock's > > House", witnesses, Charles Dalrymple of Craglands in Kilmarnock and > > Robert > > Rogest, Apothecary in Kilmarnock. Minister presiding, Mr. Francis > > Finlayson". (Information from family oral and written history. That in > > quotation marks taken from the marriage entry for Jean Boyd and William > > Moris in the Parish Records.) > >> > >> Dorothy Anne Dolphin > >> (7th great grand-daughter of John Boyd of Lin). > >> > >> > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> trees > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

Hello I have a marriage certificate for Herbert E. Boyd of Norfolk, Norfolk County, Virginia and Isabell Fuhrmann of Edwardsville, Madison County, Illinois who were married 16 July 1924 in Warrenton, Warren County, Missouri. In presence of: Elizabeth Fuhrmann (mother or sister), Mrs. A. F. Ludvig (Pastor’s wife?) Witnesses: A. F. Ludwig, Pastor College M. E. Church Certificate is 8 ½ x 11 inches and is in near perfect condition with folds. I’d like to get this back to a descendant at my cost of $10.00 Richard G. Boyd

Was Thomas the one who immigrated? How did you make the connection to Ayr? I'm pretty sure that's where my line came from but can't find any link. Anna Grace Boyd Foster On Aug 1, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Jan Curtis wrote: > My Thomas Boyd married Agnes Lammie, 4 Oct. 1690, Kilmarnock, Ayr, > parish > record. > > Their children were: > > Jean Boyd, chr. 19 Dec. 1691 > Agnes Boyd, chr 23 Nov. 1693 > Thomas Boyd, chr 16 May 1696 > John Boyd, chr 4 Feb 1700 > Margaret Boyd, chr. 1 Nov. 1702 > Janet Boyd, chr. 17 Dec. 1704.....my ancestor > Elizabeth Boyd, chr. 16 Sept. 1708 > > Some of them could have immigrated to the U.S. I think my Janet Boyd > died > before her husband immigrated to PA. I have his Will, and he named > wife > Sarah. He brought their sons with him, John, Samuel, William. > > William was my ancestor. > > JanCurtis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "FK & DA Dolphin" <delphinus@actrix.co.nz> > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:49 PM > Subject: [Boyd] John Boyd of Lin > > >> Seeking information on the parentage of John Boyd of Lin, Merchant in > Irvine, descendant of the Boyds of Pitcon, born mid 1660s. Married Jean > Arth/Airth. >> >> Issue: Anna Boyd b. 1683 >> Jean " b. 1684 >> John " b. 1688 >> Thomas " b. 1689 >> >> Jean Boyd, attendant to the Countess of Kilmarnock was married in >> 1703 to > William Moris Apothecary/Surgeon in Kilmarnock, "in the Earl of > Kilmarnock's > House", witnesses, Charles Dalrymple of Craglands in Kilmarnock and > Robert > Rogest, Apothecary in Kilmarnock. Minister presiding, Mr. Francis > Finlayson". (Information from family oral and written history. That in > quotation marks taken from the marriage entry for Jean Boyd and William > Moris in the Parish Records.) >> >> Dorothy Anne Dolphin >> (7th great grand-daughter of John Boyd of Lin). >> >> >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite >> >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- >> trees >> >> >> > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > trees >

My Thomas Boyd married Agnes Lammie, 4 Oct. 1690, Kilmarnock, Ayr, parish record. Their children were: Jean Boyd, chr. 19 Dec. 1691 Agnes Boyd, chr 23 Nov. 1693 Thomas Boyd, chr 16 May 1696 John Boyd, chr 4 Feb 1700 Margaret Boyd, chr. 1 Nov. 1702 Janet Boyd, chr. 17 Dec. 1704.....my ancestor Elizabeth Boyd, chr. 16 Sept. 1708 Some of them could have immigrated to the U.S. I think my Janet Boyd died before her husband immigrated to PA. I have his Will, and he named wife Sarah. He brought their sons with him, John, Samuel, William. William was my ancestor. JanCurtis ----- Original Message ----- From: "FK & DA Dolphin" <delphinus@actrix.co.nz> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 10:49 PM Subject: [Boyd] John Boyd of Lin > Seeking information on the parentage of John Boyd of Lin, Merchant in Irvine, descendant of the Boyds of Pitcon, born mid 1660s. Married Jean Arth/Airth. > > Issue: Anna Boyd b. 1683 > Jean " b. 1684 > John " b. 1688 > Thomas " b. 1689 > > Jean Boyd, attendant to the Countess of Kilmarnock was married in 1703 to William Moris Apothecary/Surgeon in Kilmarnock, "in the Earl of Kilmarnock's House", witnesses, Charles Dalrymple of Craglands in Kilmarnock and Robert Rogest, Apothecary in Kilmarnock. Minister presiding, Mr. Francis Finlayson". (Information from family oral and written history. That in quotation marks taken from the marriage entry for Jean Boyd and William Moris in the Parish Records.) > > Dorothy Anne Dolphin > (7th great grand-daughter of John Boyd of Lin). > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > >

Seeking information on the parentage of John Boyd of Lin, Merchant in Irvine, descendant of the Boyds of Pitcon, born mid 1660s. Married Jean Arth/Airth. Issue: Anna Boyd b. 1683 Jean " b. 1684 John " b. 1688 Thomas " b. 1689 Jean Boyd, attendant to the Countess of Kilmarnock was married in 1703 to William Moris Apothecary/Surgeon in Kilmarnock, "in the Earl of Kilmarnock's House", witnesses, Charles Dalrymple of Craglands in Kilmarnock and Robert Rogest, Apothecary in Kilmarnock. Minister presiding, Mr. Francis Finlayson". (Information from family oral and written history. That in quotation marks taken from the marriage entry for Jean Boyd and William Moris in the Parish Records.) Dorothy Anne Dolphin (7th great grand-daughter of John Boyd of Lin).

Does anyone know of any Leander Boyds that might have passed the name on??? Maria

Both my husband and I were born in Scotland and our parents decided to emigrate to Oz, can't seem to find the ones who went across the Atlantic though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen McMillan" <diggingupbones@cfl.rr.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: RE: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > And a great breed they are! My husband is Scot, but can't seem to find the > one that crossed the pond. > > -----Original Message----- > From: agfoster@headscheme.com [mailto:agfoster@headscheme.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:06 PM > To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > My Swiss/German ancestors don't seem to have been as prolific. The > Scots not only had a passel of them, they all lived! We're a tough > breed. > > On Jul 30, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Karen McMillan wrote: > > > Isn't that only true with the first and second son? If they had a > > third or > > fourth son who would they have been named after? I believe this was > > also > > true in the German lineages. > > Karen in FL. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Williams [mailto:joekate@highstream.net] > > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 5:37 AM > > To: CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > > > I believe you are mistakeing mental capabilities with tradition. The > > Scot > > naming pattern was used generally for generations, no reason to stop > > just > > because you've moved to Ireland or America. > > They were smart enough to remove themselves from , in most instances , > > a bad > > > > situation. > > You should take the Scot naming pattern and use it to your advantage > > in your > > > > research. The naming pattern wasn't used 100% of the time but the odds > > are > > pretty good that it was used. > > > > joe Boyd Williams > > Cape Carancahua, Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jan Curtis" <jcurtis@infowest.com> > > To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:09 AM > > Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > > > > > >> It seems their mentality was limited back then...probably because > >> they had > >> lived in feudal Europe. They could barely think to name their kids > >> anything > >> other than the usual names....Alexander, John, William, Samuel, and > >> the > >> daughters were named Elizabeth... > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > >> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:23 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >> > >> > >>> Unfortunately there were a ton of Alexanders, Johns and Williams and > >>> a > >>> good many Andrews. Maryland must have been a goodo place for them. > >>> Anna Grace > >>> > >>> On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:03 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > >>> > >>>> I descend from Alexander Boyd b. circa 1712 d.1780 (in Maryland) > >>>> Francis b. 1747 d.1797, > >>>> Hugh b. 1767 d. 1811, > >>>> James b. 1791 d.1872 (in Ohio), > >>>> John b. 1825 d.1901, > >>>> Sarah b. 1859 d.1926 > >>>> > >>>> Alexander had a brother Francis, that he named in his will. There > >>>> may > >>>> have > >>>> been a brother Hugh in Chester Co. PA, as well. > >>>> Jane in Ohio > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: <agfoster@headscheme.com> > >>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:24 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> What line of Boyds in Maryland are you from? Mine were from > >>>>> Frederick, > >>>>> not far away, out of Andrew and David > >>>>> Anna Grace Boyd Foster > >>>>> On Jul 28, 2005, at 10:15 PM, Jane C. Grezlik wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> James, > >>>>>> What Ohio Boyd's are you looking for? I am an Ohio Boyd with > >>>>>> roots > >>>>>> in > >>>>>> Cecil > >>>>>> Co. Md. > >>>>>> Jane in Ohio > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "James & Carolyn Boyd" <jcbyd@cvtv.net> > >>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:41 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> How do I get off the mailing list. The site is good but deals > >>>>>>> most > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>> east coast boyds not ohio boyds. jcbyd@cvtv.net > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: "Rich" <richboyd@speednetllc.com> > >>>>>>> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:29 PM > >>>>>>> Subject: [Boyd] Scottish and Irish Boyds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Below shows some reasons why Boyds and other Scots left Scotland > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> Ireland. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Petition of Ulstermen, 1718 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In the beginning of the seventeenth-century, when James VI of > >>>>>>>> Scotland became James I of England, (1603) a concerted effort > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> made > >>>>>>>> to settle the province of Ulster in N. Ireland with Scots. > >>>>>>>> King > >>>>>>>> James thought of this as one way to cure the "Irish > >>>>>>>> problem". > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Most of the large estates from this time have long since > >>>>>>>> passed > >>>>>>>> into other hands. Some of the Undertakers (a man who undertook > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> plant > >>>>>>>> the land with settlers) did not adhere to the conditions of > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> grants and, therefore, lost their estates. Others sold the > >>>>>>>> land > >>>>>>>> once > >>>>>>>> they had obtained title. Many more estates were created by > >>>>>>>> land > >>>>>>>> grants between 1641 and 1703, after the 1641 rebellion. The > >>>>>>>> Scottish > >>>>>>>> Undertakers as part of their land grants undertook to plant the > >>>>>>>> land > >>>>>>>> with settlers (or undertenants) whom they brought over from > >>>>>>>> Scotland. It was mainly these tennants who became the > >>>>>>>> ancestors > >>>>>>>> of the ethic group known today as Scotch-Irish, a term > >>>>>>>> virtually > >>>>>>>> unknown in Ireland where they are known as Ulster-Scots. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Very little documentation survives on the Undertenants, but > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> Undertakers are a different story. It must be remembered that, > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> those times land was considered more valuable than people. > >>>>>>>> Because > >>>>>>>> large tracts of land are involved there is far more > >>>>>>>> information > >>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> Undertakers. As the undertenants were brought to Ireland by the > >>>>>>>> Undertakers it is obvious that many of them came from the same > >>>>>>>> area > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> Scotland and were his near relatives. One such undertaker was: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay: second son of the sixth Lord Boyd of > >>>>>>>> Kilmarnock, Scotland. He married Grizel Cunningham, the > >>>>>>>> daughter > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> Alexander Cunningham on 22 October 1603. Ulster patent dated > >>>>>>>> 29 > >>>>>>>> August 1610: Shean 1,500 acres, Strabane Barony, County > >>>>>>>> Tyrone. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Marion, the sister of Thomas Boyd, married James Hamilton, > >>>>>>>> Earl > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> Abercorn and eventually acquired Sir Thomas Boyd's estate. It > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> assumed that Thomas Boyd brought over many settlers by the > >>>>>>>> name > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> Boyd since the surname is quite common in Northern Ireland. > >>>>>>>> Many > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> the Boyd's in America are descended from these Ulster-Scots > >>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>> tracing them down is another thing altogether. Many records have > >>>>>>>> been > >>>>>>>> destroyed during the centuries of civil strife in the country. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> --- > > > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *The Petition of Ulstermen* > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Three hundred people signed the memorial (Petition of Ulstermen > >>>>>>>> 1718) > >>>>>>>> to Governor Shute, March 6, 1718 asking encourgement to obtain > >>>>>>>> land > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> "that very excellant and renowned plantation called New > >>>>>>>> England. > >>>>>>>> Five heads of the Boyd family; John, Robert, Thomas, William > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> another Thomas signed the Petition. Captain William Boyd came > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> country fourteen times bringing Scottish pioneers from the > >>>>>>>> north > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> Ireland, and finally located at Londonderry. There is reason > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> believe that many of the Scottish Boyds who came between the > >>>>>>>> years > >>>>>>>> 1718 > >>>>>>>> and 1750 from Ulster were his near kin. A number of them > >>>>>>>> located > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> Bristol, Maine and Londonderry, NH. The Petition begins: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "We whose names are the underwritteninhabitants of ye north of > >>>>>>>> Ireland doe in our own names and in the names of many > >>>>>>>> others, > >>>>>>>> our > >>>>>>>> neighbors, gentlemen, ministers, farmers, and tradesmen, > >>>>>>>> commisionate and appoint our trusty and well beloved friend the > >>>>>>>> Reverand William Macasky to repair to His Excellancy the Right > >>>>>>>> Honorable Colonel Samuel Suitte (Shute) Governor of New > >>>>>>>> England, > >>>>>>>> and to > >>>>>>>> insure His Excellancy of our sincere and hearty inclinations > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> transport ourselves to that excellant and renowned > >>>>>>>> Plantation > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> our obtaining from his Excellancy suitable > >>>>>>>> encouragement"......... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The original copy of the Petition of Ulstermen hangs in the > >>>>>>>> rooms > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> New Hampshire Historical Society in Concord. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This from my web site: http://clanboyd.info > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? > >>>>>>>> db=boyd- > >>>>>>>> trees > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>>>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? > >>>>>>> db=boyd- > >>>>>>> trees > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? > >>>>>> db=boyd- > >>>>>> trees > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>>> > >>>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>>> trees > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>>> RING OF BOYDS > >>>> http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>>> > >>>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>>> trees > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >>> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >>> > >>> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >>> trees > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > >> RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > >> > >> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > >> trees > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > > > > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd- > > trees > > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >

Both my father and brother were named David and my brother was always called 'young' David. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JodieK444@aol.com> To: <CLANBOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:02 AM Subject: [Boyd] Boyd naming patterns > Usually after they got through naming the first several children after > fathers and mothers, they went to aunts, uncles and brothers and sisters. Although > not 100 percent reliable, naming patterns can really help you match up your > families. The name "Rosannah" in my Boyd family (who migrated from Newberry, SC > to Meriwether County, GA) carried down for several generations and went with > the family into Georgia, Alabama and sometimes, farther west. > > Another Boyd family in Meriwether (John and Eleanor Boyd of Abbeville, SC) > carried the family names Hannah, Adam, Ebenezer and Alexander. After tracking > this family for several generations (both earlier and later), I came to the > conclusion they were probably not related to my Boyds from Newberry. This John > Boyd's estate (he died in 1836) was settled in both Meriwether and Abbeville. The > list of names of legatees in both cases was identical. > > Another lucky break came when I was tracking Robert Boyd, b. 1791, son of > Hugh and Jennett Boyd of Newberry, who married Chloeretta Gray. They also moved > to Meriwether. After much research, I found that Robert's daughter, Julia Boyd, > married Benjamin White in Meriwether and had a daughter named Chloretta. That > sure helped me connect Julia as a child of Robert and Chloeretta. Also, there > was a Frederick Boyd in Meriwether. Since Chloeretta's father was Frederick > Gray, it was worth the pursuit and I later "cemented" Frederick as a son of > Robert and Chloeretta Gray Boyd. Bible and family records from this family later > shared by a descendant "sealed the deal." We are still trying to figure out > where the name of "McDuffie" came from in this family. McDuffie was another son > of Robert and Chloretta. (Chloretta is seen in at least one source as > "Floretta" but her mother's name was Chloeretta Dawkins Gray and the Bible record > clearly shows Robert's wife as "Chloeretta" or "Chloretta.") Robert remarried > twice after Chloretta's death, both times to women named Martha. Now, that has led > me on a merry chase! > > Although it is maddening and frustrating to search through all the Johns, > Roberts, Elizabeths and other common names, you can usually latch onto one child > whose name is just a little different and it is well worth the research time > to check it out. > > Judy K. in Newnan, GA > > > ==== CLANBOYD Mailing List ==== > RING OF BOYDS http://k.webring.com/wrman?ring=clanboydwebring&addsite > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=boyd-trees > >