----- Original Message ----- From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > Can someone tell me if the 65th Enrolled Missouri Militia was a > Confederate Regiment or a Union Regiment? > > I leave for Ireland on April 24 and I'm trying gather as much info as > possible. > > Henry B. Carey enlisted in the 65th E.M.M. He then enlisted in the 16th > Missouri Infantry Co. B (CSA). Could it happen that a person would > enlist on one side and then join another? He was in the 1860 Marion > County, MO census-birthplace Ireland (County?). > > Simon C. Carey or S.C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. on April 25, > 1862 Saline County, MO (Marshall) I have those papers- relieved from > duty April 20, 1862 or 1863. He then joined the Union 7th Missouri > Cavalry Co. C & K and then enlisted Aug. 15, 1864 1st Missouri Cavalry > and was mustered out at Little Rock AR Sept 1, 1865. He was my great > grandfather. Born in Ireland. He was in the 1860 census Marion County, > MO. I'm trying see if there is a connection to Henry B. (above) > > Lilburn Carey enlisted the same day - April 25, 1862 in the 71st E.M.M. > Saline County, MO as Simon C. Carey. Lilburn was relieved from duty on > November 30, 1862. On November 18, 1862 he was seen by a Dr. Glen O. > Hardeman, physician surgeon for the 71st E.M.M. and next to his name is > written APPLICATION REJECTED. (This information came from a list held by > the University of Missouri, Columbia, MO in the Dr. Glen O. Hardeman > file) Could this have meant that he was trying to enlist in a Federal > unit the same as Simon and didn't pass? I have found no indication that > he re-enlisted in any other unit. He also was in the 1860 census Saline > County, MO. > > Does anyone have anymore information on these men? Especially with > relationship to where they were from in Ireland? > > Thanks for any help in making these connections. > > Patricia Carey Bishop > donbi@concentric.net > The 65th was a Union unit. 65th Regiment Enrolled Militia Infantry Affair near Breckenridge June 9, 1864. Operations against Price September and October, 1864. Surrender of Carrollton October 17, 1864. Duty in District of North Missouri. Many men changed sides during the conflict. The reasons were many & varied. As for the rejected application, this was probably for medical reasons, but he could have convinced the doctor that he really did not want to join. Without further info, you will never know for sure. Some men did not want to fight in a "Rich mans war, but a poor mans fight." The militia units, allowed the men to stay close to their homes & family, for the most part. Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Thank you for the information. I appreciate your response. Another question, if I may. I have checked on a Lilburn Carey to see if he has a connection to my Simon C. Carey as they enlisted in the same day. I have papers that indicate Simon C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. I have the record of Lilburn having a physical exam performed by this Dr. Glen Owen Hardemann (physician/surgeon of the 71st E.M.M.). Then, I see (online image) for Lilburn Carey/Cary through the Ancestry.com website (pension records) listed as being in the 72nd E.M.M. Would this just be considered an error? (the 72nd - on the image of his pension record) I'm learning why there are so many dates of enrolling for Simon C.Carey. If they were allowed to go home, they must have given them a new enrollment date each time they returned to duty. This may be more information than you are interested in hearing. There are 4 "cards" that have been copied on one legal sheet of paper. Three of the "cards" relate to the 71st Reg't. E.M.M., the fourth relates to the 1st Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M". 71st Regt. E.M.M. Co. (could be L) Comd'g Capt Corum Enrolled Apr 25, 1862 ** in Marshall Mo - relieved from duty Feb 20, 1863 (No. days actual service 148) ** The enrollment date of Apr 25, 1862 has been confusing as the information I am getting is that the E.M.M. wasn't organized until July, 1862. What would he have been enrolling in as of April 25, 1862, I wonder? 71st Regt. E.M.M Capt. Corum Enrolled Sept. 23, 1862, Where: Marshall Remarks: "Substitute for Thomas Owens." I have recently corresponded with a Thomas Owens' descendent researcher. Evidently Owens died Feb 3, 1863. Probably was in ill health at the time of his being drafted and that is why a substitute was contacted. He lived in Saline County, MO, Salt Pond Twp and Simon Carey enlisted in Saline County (Marshall, MO). The Owens family appears to have been rather financially set. Simon met and married my great-grandmother (she and her family were living in Lexington (Lafayette Co.) December 24, 1863. They married in Ray County, MO. I believe the 71st might have served in Ray County (Crooked River Twp) during 1863. The 71st Regt. E.M.M. under Capt. McKown states that Simon C. Carey enrolled Jan. 17, 1863 in Marshall, MO. Remarks: Co. disbanded by S.O. 62 May 6, 1863. (I'm not sure what this means exactly except they were disbanded.) Simon then joined the 7th Missouri Cavalry Vols, Co. C (Union) in Hannibal, MO. Marion County. (Marion County, 1860 census is the first we see of Simon). Enrollment was August 15, 1864 by Capt. H. W. Hollingsworth. Another "card" for the 1st Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M", Com'd'g. Capt. Prewitt, enlisted Aug. 15, 1864, Where Hannibal, MO. Mustered in Aug. 15, 1864, Where Hannibal, Mo., Remarks: Vet. Mustered out Sept. 1, 1865, Where: Little Rock, Ark. He died, a month after arriving home, from an "abscess in his side". Thanks for your reply. Patricia Carey Bishop donbi@concentric.net Desoto Joe wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:09 PM > Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > > > Can someone tell me if the 65th Enrolled Missouri Militia was a > > Confederate Regiment or a Union Regiment? > > > > I leave for Ireland on April 24 and I'm trying gather as much info as > > possible. > > > > Henry B. Carey enlisted in the 65th E.M.M. He then enlisted in the 16th > > Missouri Infantry Co. B (CSA). Could it happen that a person would > > enlist on one side and then join another? He was in the 1860 Marion > > County, MO census-birthplace Ireland (County?). > > > > Simon C. Carey or S.C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. on April 25, > > 1862 Saline County, MO (Marshall) I have those papers- relieved from > > duty April 20, 1862 or 1863. He then joined the Union 7th Missouri > > Cavalry Co. C & K and then enlisted Aug. 15, 1864 1st Missouri Cavalry > > and was mustered out at Little Rock AR Sept 1, 1865. He was my great > > grandfather. Born in Ireland. He was in the 1860 census Marion County, > > MO. I'm trying see if there is a connection to Henry B. (above) > > > > Lilburn Carey enlisted the same day - April 25, 1862 in the 71st E.M.M. > > Saline County, MO as Simon C. Carey. Lilburn was relieved from duty on > > November 30, 1862. On November 18, 1862 he was seen by a Dr. Glen O. > > Hardeman, physician surgeon for the 71st E.M.M. and next to his name is > > written APPLICATION REJECTED. (This information came from a list held by > > the University of Missouri, Columbia, MO in the Dr. Glen O. Hardeman > > file) Could this have meant that he was trying to enlist in a Federal > > unit the same as Simon and didn't pass? I have found no indication that > > he re-enlisted in any other unit. He also was in the 1860 census Saline > > County, MO. > > > > Does anyone have anymore information on these men? Especially with > > relationship to where they were from in Ireland? > > > > Thanks for any help in making these connections. > > > > Patricia Carey Bishop > > donbi@concentric.net > > > > The 65th was a Union unit. > > 65th Regiment Enrolled Militia Infantry > > Affair near Breckenridge June 9, 1864. Operations against Price September > and October, > 1864. Surrender of Carrollton October 17, 1864. Duty in District of > North Missouri. > > Many men changed sides during the conflict. The reasons were many & varied. > > As for the rejected application, this was probably for medical reasons, but > he could have convinced the doctor that he really did not want to join. > Without further info, you will never know for sure. Some men did not want to > fight in a "Rich mans war, but a poor mans fight." The militia units, > allowed the men to stay close to their homes & family, for the most part. > > Desoto Joe/The Record Man > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, type a message with only the word > unsubscribe > in the text and mailto:CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > Thank you for the information. I appreciate your response. > > Another question, if I may. I have checked on a Lilburn Carey to see if he has > a connection to my Simon C. Carey as they enlisted in the same day. I have > papers that indicate Simon C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. I have the > record of Lilburn having a physical exam performed by this Dr. Glen Owen > Hardemann (physician/surgeon of the 71st E.M.M.). Then, I see (online image) for > Lilburn Carey/Cary through the Ancestry.com website (pension records) listed as > being in the 72nd E.M.M. Would this just be considered an error? (the 72nd - on > the image of his pension record) > > I'm learning why there are so many dates of enrolling for Simon C.Carey. If they > were allowed to go home, they must have given them a new enrollment date each > time they returned to duty. > > This may be more information than you are interested in hearing. > > There are 4 "cards" that have been copied on one legal sheet of paper. Three of > the "cards" relate to the 71st Reg't. E.M.M., the fourth relates to the 1st > Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M". > > 71st Regt. E.M.M. Co. (could be L) Comd'g Capt Corum Enrolled Apr 25, 1862 ** in > Marshall Mo - relieved from duty Feb 20, 1863 (No. days actual service 148) > ** The enrollment date of Apr 25, 1862 has been confusing as the information I > am getting is that the E.M.M. wasn't organized until July, 1862. What would he > have been enrolling in as of April 25, 1862, I wonder? > > 71st Regt. E.M.M Capt. Corum Enrolled Sept. 23, 1862, Where: Marshall Remarks: > "Substitute for Thomas Owens." > > I have recently corresponded with a Thomas Owens' descendent researcher. > Evidently Owens died Feb 3, 1863. Probably was in ill health at the time of his > being drafted and that is why a substitute was contacted. He lived in Saline > County, MO, Salt Pond Twp and Simon Carey enlisted in Saline County (Marshall, > MO). The Owens family appears to have been rather financially set. > > Simon met and married my great-grandmother (she and her family were living in > Lexington (Lafayette Co.) December 24, 1863. They married in Ray County, MO. I > believe the 71st might have served in Ray County (Crooked River Twp) during > 1863. > > The 71st Regt. E.M.M. under Capt. McKown states that Simon C. Carey enrolled > Jan. 17, 1863 in Marshall, MO. Remarks: Co. disbanded by S.O. 62 May 6, 1863. > (I'm not sure what this means exactly except they were disbanded.) > > Simon then joined the 7th Missouri Cavalry Vols, Co. C (Union) in Hannibal, MO. > Marion County. (Marion County, 1860 census is the first we see of Simon). > Enrollment was August 15, 1864 by Capt. H. W. Hollingsworth. > > Another "card" for the 1st Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M", Com'd'g. Capt. Prewitt, > enlisted Aug. 15, 1864, Where Hannibal, MO. Mustered in Aug. 15, 1864, Where > Hannibal, Mo., Remarks: Vet. Mustered out Sept. 1, 1865, Where: Little Rock, > Ark. > > He died, a month after arriving home, from an "abscess in his side". > > Thanks for your reply. > > Patricia Carey Bishop > donbi@concentric.net > > 71st Regiment Enrolled Militia Infantry Duty in Ray County. Affairs in Jackson and Lafayette Counties November 26-29, 1862. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- 1st Regiment Cavalry Organized at Jefferson Barracks, Mo., September 6, 1861. Moved to Benton Barracks September 12, thence to Jefferson City, Mo., September 21 (5 Cos.). Other Companies moved to Jefferson City October 4 and Joined Regiment at Tipton, Mo., October 19. Expedition to Lexington October 5-16 (Cos. "C" and "L"). Capture of Lexington October 16 (Cos. "C" and "L"). Warrensburg October 18. Fremont's advance on Springfield, Mo., October 20-26. 1st Battalion (Cos. "A," "C," "D" and "E") moved to Sedalia, Mo., as escort to General Hunter, November; thence to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and duty there until May, 1862. Attached to Dept. of Kansas November, 1861, to May, 1862. District of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to October, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of the Frontier, Dept. of Missouri, to February, 1863. 2nd Brigade, 3rd Division, Army of the Frontier, to June, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, District of Southeast Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1863. Reserve Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, Arkansas Expedition, to December, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Division Cavalry, Army of Arkansas, to January, 1864. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, Dept. of Arkansas, to May, 1864. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1864. (Regiment consolidated to 7 Cos. September 10, 1864.) 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, to March, 1865. Separate Brigade, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1865. SERVICE.--Operations about Atchison, Kansas, January 20-24, 1862 (Co. "E"). Pink Hill March 31 (Cos. "C" and "D"). Moved to Independence, Mo., May, 1862, and operating against guerrillas until September, 1862. Scout to Little Blue May 15-17 (Detachment). Independence May 16 (Detachment). Near Sedalia June 5 (Cos. "A," "C" and "E"). Operations in Johnson County June 28-29. Expedition toward Blackwater and Chapel Hill July 6-9. Expedition in Casa County July 9-11. Lotspeach Farm, near Wadesburg, July 9. Sear's House and Big Creek Bluffs, near Pleasant Hill, August 8 (Cos. "A," "C" and "D"). Joined Herron's Division September --. At Rolla, Mo., until June, 1863. Moved to Pilot Knob and Join Davidson's Cavalry Division. Expedition against Little Rock, Ark., July 1-September 10. Pocahontas August 24. Shallow Ford, Bayou Metoe, August 30. Near Shallow Ford September 2. Bayou Fourche and capture of Little Rock September 10. Expedition from Benton to Mt. Ida November 10-18, Caddo Gap November 11. Near Benton December 1. Reconnaissance from Little Rock December 5-13. At Little Rock until March, 1864. Carter's Creek January 23, 1864. Steele's Expedition to Camden March 23-May 3. Rockport March 25. Arkadelphia March 29. Spoonville April 2. Little Missouri River April 6. Prairie D'Ann April 9-12. Camden April 15. Jenkins' Ferry, Saline River, April 30. Operations against Shelby north of Arkansas River May 18-31. Osceola August 2. Benton August 18. Near Pine Bluff August 18. Scout to Benton September 6-7. Reconnaissance to Princeton October 19-23. Expedition to Saline River November 17-18. Expedition to Mt. Elba January 22-February 4, 1865. At Little Rock until September. Mustered out September 1, 1865. 2nd Battalion--(Cos. "B," "H," "I", and "L.") Moved to Otterville, Mo., November, 1861, and duty there until February, 1862. Expedition to Milford December 15-19. Shawnee Mound, Milford, Blackwater River, December 19. Roan's Tan Yard, Silver Creek, January 8, 1862. Joined 3rd Battalion at Lebanon February 9. Attached to 3rd Brigade, Army of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to February, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 3rd Division, Army of Southwest Missouri, to April, 1862. Cassville, Mo., District of Southwest Missouri, to October, 1862. (Detached from 3rd Battalion at Cassville, Mo., April 7.) Unattached, 2nd Division, Army of the Frontier, to January, 1863; then same as 1st Battalion. Advance on Springfield, Mo., February 13-16. Pursuit of Price to Fayetteville, Ark., February 13-16. Skirmish with Price's Rear Guard February 14-15. Bentonville February 17. Sugar Creek February 18. Reconnaissance to Berryville March 3-7. Battles of Pea Ridge March 7-8. Leetown March 7. Elkhorn Tavern March 8. Operations against Stan Wattee March 19-23. At Cross Timbers until April 6. Moved to Cassville April 6-7. Santa Fe Road April 14. Neosho April 26. Near Newtonia August 8. Union Mills August 20. Occupation of Newtonia October 4, Battle of Prairie Grove, Ark., December 7. Expedition over Boston Mountains December 27-29. Dripping Springs and capture of Van Buren December 28. (See 1st Battalion.) 3rd Battalion--(Cos. "F," "G," "K" and "M."). Moved to Rolla, Mo., November, 1861. Expedition against Sam Freeman December --. Stein's Creek, LaClede County, January 1, 1862. Scouting on the Gasconade until January 15, 1862. Attached to 3rd Brigade, Army of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to April, 1862. 2nd Division, Army of Southwest Missouri, to July, 1862. District of Eastern Arkansas, Dept. of Missouri, to December, 1862. 1st Brigade, 3rd Cavalry Division, District of Eastern Arkansas, to January, 1863, Helena, Ark., District of Eastern Arkansas, 13th Army Corps, Dept. of Tennessee, to January, 1863. District Of Memphis, Tenn., 16th Army Corps, to March, 1863. 4th Brigade, District of Memphis, 5th Division, 16th Army Corps, to June, 1863. Dept. of Missouri to December, 1863. New Madrid, Mo., to September, 1864. SERVICE.--Curtis' Campaign in Southwest Missouri January 15-February 16, 1862. Occupation of Lebanon January 26, 1862. Reconnaissance beyond Bolivar February 6-9. Bolivar February 8. Advance on Springfield, Mo., February 10-13. Pursuit of Price to Fayetteville, Ark., February 13-16. Skirmish with Price's Rear Guard February 14-15. Bentonville February 17. Sugar Creek February 18. Reconnaissance to Berryville March 3-7. Battles of Pea Ridge March 6-9. Leetown March 7. Elkhorn Tavern March 8. Operations against Stan Wattee March 1923. At Cross Timbers until April 6. Advance to Forsyth, thence to Batesville April 7-May 5. (Co. "F" detached as escort to General Jeff C. Davis May 10, 1862, and moved to Army of the Tennessee.) March to Helena, Ark., May 25-July 14. Big Indian Creek, White County, May 23. Searcy, White County, May 27. Taberville August 11. Lagrange September 6. Expedition to Lawrenceville and St. Charles September 11-13. Expedition from Helena to Lagrange September 26. Near Helena October 11. Expedition from Helena to Moro November 5-8. At Helena, Ark., until January 29, 1863. Moved to Memphis, Tenn., and duty there until June. Carter's Creek Pike April 27. Expedition to Hernando May 23-24 and May 26 (Detachments). Scouts toward Hernando May 27-28 (Detachment). Operations in Northwest Mississippi June 15-25. Coldwater, near Hernando, June 19 (Detachment). Hernando June 20. Moved to St. Louis, Mo., June 30-July 3; thence to Cape Girardeau escorting train July 20-27. March to Bloomfield and return to Cape Girardeau August 1-6. Expedition to Pocahontas August 17-27. Pocahontas August 24. At Cape Girardeau and Pilot Knob until October 23, and at Bloomfield until December 14. Moved to New Madrid, Mo., and duty there until September, 1864. In swamps of Little River April 6, 1864. Scout to Gainesville, Ark., May 10-25. Expedition to Carruthersville July 5-10. Operations in Southeast Missouri and Northeast Arkansas July 18-August 6. Company "F" served detached as escort to General Jeff C. Davis, commanding 4th Division, Army of Mississippi, to September, 1862; then with Headquarters, 9th Division, 3rd Corps, Army of Ohio, to November, 1862. 1st Division, Right Wing 14th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to January, 1863. 1st Division, 20th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to October, 1863. At Headquarters, Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1864. Siege of Corinth, Miss., April 29-May 30, 1862. Campaign against Bragg in Kentucky October, 1862. Stone River Campaign December, 1862-January, 1863. Weem's Springs August 19, 1863. Regiment lost during service 2 Officers and 51 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 2 Officers and 179 Enlisted men by disease. Total 234. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ 7th Regiment Cavalry Organized February 20, 1862, by consolidation of Black Hawk Cavalry and Unattached Companies. Attached to Dept. of Kansas to June, 1862. District of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to October, 1862. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of the Frontier, Dept. of Missouri, to June, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, District of Southeast Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, Arkansas Expedition, to January, 1864. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, Dept. of Arkansas, to May, 1864. Clayton's Independent Cavalry Brigade, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1864. 1st Brigade, Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, to February, 1865. 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, to February, 1865. SERVICE.--Operations about Miami and Waverly May 25-28, 1862. Scouts to Waverly, Miami, Franklin and Pink Hill June 4-10 (Cos. "H" and "I"). Pink Hill June 11 (Detachment). Haytown June 23 (Co. "B") Operations about Sibley and Pink Hill June 28-July 1 (Cos. "B," "D," "F" and "K"). Lotspeach Farm, near Wadesburg, July 9. Expeditions in Cass County July 9-11; on Blackwater, near Columbus, July 23. Lone Jack August 16 (5 Cos,). Occupation of Newtonia October 4. Battle of Prairie Grove, Ark., December 7. Van Buren December 21. Expedition over Boston Mountains December 27-29. Moved to Flat Creek February, 1863; thence to Rolla, Mo. Operations against Marmaduke April 17-May 2. At Pilot Knob, Mo., until July. Brownsville, Ark., July 25. Steele's Expedition against Little Rock, Ark., August 1-September 10. Grand Prairie August 17. Brownsville August 25. Bayou Fourche and capture of Little Rock September 10. Pursuit of Price September 11-14. Near Little Rock September 11. Expedition from Benton to Mt, Ida November 10-18. Reconnaissance from Little Rock December 5-13. Princeton December 8. Branchville January 17, 1864. Monticello March 18, 1864. Steele's Expedition to Camden March 23-May 3. Expedition from Pine Bluff to Mr. Elba and Longview March 27-31. Mt. Elba March 30 and pursuit to Big Creek. Mark's Mills April 25 (Detachment). Expedition from Pine Bluff September 9-11. Near Monticello September 10 (Detachment). Brewer's Lane September 11 (Detachment). Reconnaissance from Little Rock toward Monticello and Mt. Elba October 4-11. Expedition from Pine Bluff and skirmish January 7-9, 1865 (Detachment). Near Pine Bluff January 9. Consolidated with 1st Missouri Cavalry February 22, 1865. Regiment lost during service 4 Officers and 55 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 4 Officers and 228 Enlisted men by disease. Total 291. Desoto Joe/The Record Man