A chairde, Mike Ruddy has stolen my thunder! Of course languages have regional variations. So as an Ulsterman that learned his gaelic in the Donegal gealteachts I am forced to disagree with Bob Nolan's pronounciation. I'm sorry Bob neither Dineen or I would agree with your spelling either. I was glad to see my comments uncovered some of J.B. O'Rielly's poetry. J.B. is well known here for his escape from the Fremantle prison colony, he went on to promote the escape of seven of his comrades, which was organised and financed by Irish American sympathisers. JB O' Rielly's pub is well worth a visit if anyone makes it to Western Australia. Is Mise le meas, Eamonn Eamon, I sent a reply to another query on the same Irish battlecry. Might you agree with what follows?! "Is this the cry 'Faugh an Ballagh' that you enquire about? Thomas Francis Meagher's Irish Brigade are known to have made much use of this call. Pronounced literally, 'Fog on Balok', it means, 'Get out of the way' or more simply 'OUT OF THE WAY'! The correct spelling of 'Faugh' is 'Fhag' (pronounced the same as above), whilst the correct spelling for 'Ballagh' is 'Bealach'. Regards Bob Nolan Dublin, Ireland." ----- Original Message ----- From: McNulty, Eamonn <Eamonn.McNulty@health.wa.gov.au> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:39 AM Subject: RE: [Civil-War-Irish] Faces > A cairde > > "Riam nar druid ar sbarin lann" > > More literally might be translated as > > "Ever don't close on loaded spears" I don't claim to be a Gaelic expert.I > cant find it in Rev. Patrick Dineen's dictionary circa 1920- the definitive > dictionary of the Irish language. > > "Never Retreat From a Clash of Spears" has a much nicer ring to my ear at > least. > > Interestingly Dineen gives "Fag (fada on the a) an Bealach" simply as clear > the way. I pefer your spelling as it predates Dineen by some 60 years and is > probably more authentic in portraying the actual battle cry used by the > Irish Americans. > > Is mise le meas > > Eamonn mac an Ultaigh > > Eamonn McNulty.(Western Australia) > > -----Original Message----- > From: RUDDYsTN > To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: 7/8/01 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Faces > > > >I once s aw the Irish Battle Cry given on this forum, does anyone have > it. > >There are a couple of you who speak gaelic, I would love it for an > Irish > >friend. Joanm Keller > > On the flag of the Irish Brigade it says: > "Riam nar druid o sbarin lann." Literally: "ever that-not [never] > drawing > back from conflict of spears or "Never Retreat From a Clash of Spears" > > Another from I belive a Pennsylvania Regiment: > "Faugh a Ballagh" or something similar meaning as I remember it: > "Through > the Breech" > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > To review past messages, visit the list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L/ > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > To review past messages, visit the list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > --------------9823CF51C61A1C274437FB7D-- ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== To review past messages, visit the list archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L/ ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB