At 11:13 AM 1/4/2001 -0500, you wrote: >i am interested in finding the trail of PETER EGAN born in ireland and >supposedly killed at BULL RUN. i cannot find any record of him either >in the northern army or being killed in battle. he was my g >grandmother's first husband. her name was mary anne philbin. she later >married charles edward somers. thank you >valerie somers The fellow below may be your man. You may want to send for his records to NARA. Mike Peter Egan Residence not listed; 22 years old. Enlisted on 6/8/1861 at New York City, NY as a Private. On 6/8/1861 he mustered into "C" Co. NY 83rd Infantry He was Killed on 12/13/1862 at Fredericksburg, VA Promotions: * Corpl 11/11/1862 * Private 11/15/1862 (Reduced to ranks, estimated day) Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: - New York: Report of the Adjutant-General (c) Historical Data Systems, Inc. @ www.civilwardata.com

i am interested in finding the trail of PETER EGAN born in ireland and supposedly killed at BULL RUN. i cannot find any record of him either in the northern army or being killed in battle. he was my g grandmother's first husband. her name was mary anne philbin. she later married charles edward somers. thank you valerie somers

I am researching John Whitehead BYRON of the 69th NYSV. He returned to Ireland where he was arrested in Clogheen in September 1865 but subsequently released. I have been told that he had saved the life of Lt Thomas H. O'Brien at the Battle of Fredericksburg and that they remained life long friends ( I think that they may also have been related.) I believe that there are letters from Byron to O'Brien written while the former was in Kilmanhain gaol in Dublin. Byron's relatives in Australia thought he went back to New York where his parents and brothers and sisters had settled. All trace of this branch of the family has however been lost. I have a letter which Byron wrote in Clogheen just prior to his arrest. I"d be interested to hear from anyone who might have information on him. Thank you Anne

Would anyone have documentation of how the Irish were recruited to fight in the Civil War? What incentives were offerred and how exactly was the citizenship handled? Was there an oath of allegiance which was mandatory, and can I get a copy of any of these documents? Thanks for helping-this is a great list. Always so generous with information. Kay Bradley

TPotts2745@aol.com wrote: > > Gerald, > > You can find some information on-line at: > > Welcome to the Historic New York Times > http://nyt.ulib.org/ > > Great place to research. > > Good Luck, > Tim Potts - --------------------------- If no luck there, check out the NY State Newspaper Project at http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/ Dennis mailto:fran@ees.eesc.com Sterling Heights Michigan

Gerald, You can find some information on-line at: Welcome to the Historic New York Times http://nyt.ulib.org/ Great place to research. Good Luck, Tim Potts

Assuming that the Civil War soldier had an obituary published at the time that he was killed in action, would there be any newspapers in New York City, which existed in the 1861-1865 timeframe, still being published today. I am looking for an obit on a soldier, my great grand uncle, Captain Michael Donovan Purtell, who was buried in Calvary Cemetery, Woodside, NY, on 19 May 1864. He was re-interred at Saint Raymonds in the Bronx, New York in 1905. Gerard J. Nolan Lottsburg, Va. 22511

Hellow, I put my family Christmas card to everyone at Civil War Irish egroups up on a webpage. It has a gaelic christmas greeting. To view it, please click this link: http://www.geocities.com/brerkev/Card_2000_gaelic.html?977406269521 Slan and have a happy and safe Holidays! Kevin O'Malley & family __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

Michelle Lyons wrote: I would like to extend my best wishes for a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all on the Civil War Irish List. And as we remember all of our ancestors who gave their lives for our freedom, I would like too share a very beautiful and poignant poem I received from a friend of mine. Best wishes and Happy Holidays. *+*+*+ MICHELLE LYONS *+*+*+ A Veterans Christmas TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, HE LIVED ALL ALONE, IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF PLASTER AND STONE. I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE, AND TO SEE JUST WHO IN THIS HOME DID LIVE. I LOOKED ALL ABOUT, A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE, NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS, NOT EVEN A TREE. NO STOCKING BY MANTLE, JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND, ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES OF FAR DISTANT LANDS. WITH MEDALS AND BADGES, AWARDS OF ALL KINDS, A SOBER THOUGHT CAME THROUGH MY MIND. FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT, IT WAS DARK AND DREARY, I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER, ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY. THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING, SILENT, ALONE, CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME. THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE, THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER, NOT HOW I PICTURED A UNITED STATES SOLDIER. WAS THIS THE HERO OF WHOM I'D JUST READ? CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, THE FLOOR FOR A BED? I REALIZED THE FAMILIES THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT, OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT. SOON ROUND THE WORLD, THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY, AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY. THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS, LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE. I COULDN'T HELP WONDER HOW MANY LAY ALONE, ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME. THE VERY THOUGHT BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE, I DROPPED TO MY KNEES AND STARTED TO CRY. THE SOLDIER AWAKENED AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE, "SANTA DON'T CRY, THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE; I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, I DON'T ASK FOR MORE, MY LIFE IS MY GOD, MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS." THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP, I COULDN'T CONTROL IT, I CONTINUED TO WEEP. I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS, SO SILENT AND STILL AND WE BOTH SHIVERED FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL. I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT, THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR SO WILLING TO FIGHT. THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER, WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE, WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA, IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE." ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH, AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT. "MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT." This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following is his request. I think it is reasonable..... PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed. --WebTV-Mail-23061-2111-- --WebTV-Mail-10069-4465--

The National Archives and Records Administration sit has a picture of a ward in Carver General Hospital in Washington ca. 1921. The hospital, or at least one with the same name was apparently in operation for many years. I would give the URL for the picture but you can apparently only get to it using their site search (NAIL). The NARA site is: www.nara.gov -----Original Message----- From: Desoto Joe [mailto:joey@jcn1.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 3:17 AM To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR-IRISH] Casualty Removal ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerard J. Nolan <surveyor@rivnet.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR-IRISH] Casualty Removal > During the Civil War, where was the Carver Hospital in Washington, D.C.?? > Carver Hospital http://www.clements.umich.edu/Webguides/Schoff/C/Carver.html Here is just three individuals who were listed as being there. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- BOYCE, WALTER D.-Age, 37 years. Enlisted at Wheatfield, to serve one year, and mustered in as private, Co. I, September 30, 1864; wounded in action, October 27, 1864, at Boydton Road, Va.; discharged for disability, April 13, 1865, at Carver Hospital, Washington, D.C. http://skaneateles.org/124_inf/124b.html DECKER, JR., WILLIAM N.-Age, 27 years. Enlisted at Sanford, to serve one year, and mustered in as private, Co. A, February 15, 1865; mustered out with detachment, July 6, 1865, at Carver Hospital, Washington, D.C. http://skaneateles.org/143_inf/143d.html Devereaux, John--age,40. Enlisted at Niles to serve one year. Mustered out 3 Jun 1865, at Carver Hospital, Washington, DC.; also borne as Davro. http://home.rochester.rr.com/kveneron/nyinft/drost111.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Ward in the Carver General Hospital, Washington, D.C. http://www.nara.gov/nara/nn/nns/civil038.jpg There are many mentions of this hospital on the web, in accounts of soldiers being there, or dying there. Desoto Joe/The Record Man

----- Original Message ----- From: Gerard J. Nolan <surveyor@rivnet.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR-IRISH] Casualty Removal > During the Civil War, where was the Carver Hospital in Washington, D.C.?? > Carver Hospital http://www.clements.umich.edu/Webguides/Schoff/C/Carver.html Here is just three individuals who were listed as being there. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- BOYCE, WALTER D.-Age, 37 years. Enlisted at Wheatfield, to serve one year, and mustered in as private, Co. I, September 30, 1864; wounded in action, October 27, 1864, at Boydton Road, Va.; discharged for disability, April 13, 1865, at Carver Hospital, Washington, D.C. http://skaneateles.org/124_inf/124b.html DECKER, JR., WILLIAM N.-Age, 27 years. Enlisted at Sanford, to serve one year, and mustered in as private, Co. A, February 15, 1865; mustered out with detachment, July 6, 1865, at Carver Hospital, Washington, D.C. http://skaneateles.org/143_inf/143d.html Devereaux, John--age,40. Enlisted at Niles to serve one year. Mustered out 3 Jun 1865, at Carver Hospital, Washington, DC.; also borne as Davro. http://home.rochester.rr.com/kveneron/nyinft/drost111.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Ward in the Carver General Hospital, Washington, D.C. http://www.nara.gov/nara/nn/nns/civil038.jpg There are many mentions of this hospital on the web, in accounts of soldiers being there, or dying there. Desoto Joe/The Record Man

"Gerard J. Nolan" wrote: > > During the Civil War, where was the Carver Hospital in Washington, D.C.?? > ------------------ Gerard, Tried to track this down without much luck. I did find a web page http://xroads.virginia.edu/%7ECAP/hospital/whitman.htm that references a figure 3, which is supposed to be a map showing where the hospitals were. Trouble is, there is no figure 3 with the webpage! (Maybe this is actually a review of "Drum Taps" and that's where figure 3 is.) Ms. Price does locate some hospitals, but not Carver, although a photo purporting to be the interior is included. "Mr. Lincoln's City", which is a tour guide to CW DC, has this to say: "As a rule of thumb Massachusetts Avenue was then regarded as the northern rim of the Civil War city...It was mostly flat open space, a dumping ground for refuse, with an occasional huddle of barracks or other Army necessities like the Execution Grounds (at present Logan Circle). This plain continued north for about a mile. Then the land climbed abruptly to a shelf 70 or 80 feet above the plain... "...the whole shelf from the Anacostia River west beyond Rock Creek was dotted with white tents and hut camps. When the soldiers moved south in the spring of 1862 the doctors took over the best barracks, joined them with tents, and turned them into general hospitals. A row of 12 large hospitals remained here till the end of the war." The tour guide map for this stop is between 9th & 10th Streets on south side of H, but this is probably just approximate locale - doubt 12 hospitals fit in one city block. A convention center now occupies the block. Dennis

Dennis, He is on record at Andersonville but his record is short and basic. Code No.: 43890 Grave No.: 0 Last Name: DULEY First Name: GEORGE F. Rank: PRIVATE Company: B Regiment: 2 State: MA Branch of Service: CAVALRY Date of Death: Cause of Death: Remarks: DIED 10/04/64 @ SAVANNAH, GA Reference: p 239 [37] Place Captured: Date Captured: Alternate Names: More Information Available: NO - ------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have any documents about George you wish to get added to his file so other researchers can find them, please let me know as I have the where and who to send copies. May I suggest a family tree connecting you to him? I have found many records containing such items for other descendants of prisoners which lead to family connections. Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you as all of my research is Volunteer. Kevin Please visit my website which is dedicated to those Civil War Prisoners of war who were held Union and Confederate Prisoner of War Camps. http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis J. Francis" <fran@ees.eesc.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:17 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR-IRISH] George Duley > Pat0817@aol.com wrote: > > > > Do you have any suggestions for finding the buriel place of my ancester, > > George duley, died at Savannah GA. 1864. We think he was at Andersonville > > and transferred but have been able to find very little information. Thanks > > hopefully Pat Y in Tampa Bay > ------------------------------- > MA records show a George F. Duley, who enlisted on 22 Sep 1863 into > Company B, 2nd MA Cavalry. At time of enlistment, he was 20 yrs old, > resided in Ashland, and was a farmer. > He died a POW on 4 Oct 1864 at Savannah GA. > > NPS database shows him as being confined at Andersonville for an > unspecified time, but not > buried there, and confirms his dying at Savannah 4 Oct. > He does not appear in the on-line listings for Beaufort, Florence, or > Marietta Nat'l Cemeteries. > > But here's something from "Civil War Prisons: A Study in War Psychology" > by William B. Hesseltine, 1971 printing (originally published in 1930), > New York: > > "On September 5, orders came to send the prisoners (at Andersonville) > away > immediately...to Charleston and Savannah...The prisoners sent to > Savannah were > quartered in a stockade on the grounds of the old United States Marine > Hospital. As at Charleston the prisoners received treatment far > exceeding > their experiences in Andersonville. The food was better, and their > quarters > were tents. > ->> "There are but two graves of Federal prisoners at this place. (!!!) > "But Savannah was open to the same objections as Charleston, and October > 10, > the prisoners were removed to the prison at Millen (GA)." > > Maybe SKS in Savannah can check this out for you. > > In "Cahaba to Charleston: The Prison Odyssey of Lt. Edmund E. Ryan" by > William M. Armstrong ("Civil War Prisons", William B. Hesseltine, ed., > 1962, Kent State University), mention is made of Camp Davidson, a > stockaded enclosure located on the edge of Savannah. I'm not sure if > this is the same place as the one mentioned above. > > George's father, Joseph D. Duley, applied for a survivor's pension in > Aug 1881, application 285117, but the index card says he was in Co D, > not B. > > Some links and leads: > Andersonville National Historic Site (NPS) - > http://www.nps.gov/ande/ > > 2nd Mass Cavalry - > http://members.home.net/reunion/index.htm > > Georgia CW Commission (you can do an on-line query here) - > http://www.ganet.org/civilwar/ > > Georgia Historical Society - > http://www.georgiahistory.com/ > > Savannah History Association > 303 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd > Savannah GA 31401-4217 > > Dennis > mailto:fran@ees.eesc.com > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > "Remember Ireland and Fontenoy!" > Irish War Cry > > ============================== > Get Free Access to all Ancestry.com Databases from Dec 7 until Dec 21!http://www.ancestry.com/home/celebrate/freeaccess.htm?sourcecode=736 >

Pat0817@aol.com wrote: > > Do you have any suggestions for finding the buriel place of my ancester, > George duley, died at Savannah GA. 1864. We think he was at Andersonville > and transferred but have been able to find very little information. Thanks > hopefully Pat Y in Tampa Bay - ----------------------------- MA records show a George F. Duley, who enlisted on 22 Sep 1863 into Company B, 2nd MA Cavalry. At time of enlistment, he was 20 yrs old, resided in Ashland, and was a farmer. He died a POW on 4 Oct 1864 at Savannah GA. NPS database shows him as being confined at Andersonville for an unspecified time, but not buried there, and confirms his dying at Savannah 4 Oct. He does not appear in the on-line listings for Beaufort, Florence, or Marietta Nat'l Cemeteries. But here's something from "Civil War Prisons: A Study in War Psychology" by William B. Hesseltine, 1971 printing (originally published in 1930), New York: "On September 5, orders came to send the prisoners (at Andersonville) away immediately...to Charleston and Savannah...The prisoners sent to Savannah were quartered in a stockade on the grounds of the old United States Marine Hospital. As at Charleston the prisoners received treatment far exceeding their experiences in Andersonville. The food was better, and their quarters were tents. ->> "There are but two graves of Federal prisoners at this place. (!!!) "But Savannah was open to the same objections as Charleston, and October 10, the prisoners were removed to the prison at Millen (GA)." Maybe SKS in Savannah can check this out for you. In "Cahaba to Charleston: The Prison Odyssey of Lt. Edmund E. Ryan" by William M. Armstrong ("Civil War Prisons", William B. Hesseltine, ed., 1962, Kent State University), mention is made of Camp Davidson, a stockaded enclosure located on the edge of Savannah. I'm not sure if this is the same place as the one mentioned above. George's father, Joseph D. Duley, applied for a survivor's pension in Aug 1881, application 285117, but the index card says he was in Co D, not B. Some links and leads: Andersonville National Historic Site (NPS) - http://www.nps.gov/ande/ 2nd Mass Cavalry - http://members.home.net/reunion/index.htm Georgia CW Commission (you can do an on-line query here) - http://www.ganet.org/civilwar/ Georgia Historical Society - http://www.georgiahistory.com/ Savannah History Association 303 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd Savannah GA 31401-4217 Dennis mailto:fran@ees.eesc.com

During the Civil War, where was the Carver Hospital in Washington, D.C.??

victoria tester wrote: > > Hello, everyone. Hoping someone on the list can help. Have two questions. > > Was recently in a small cemetery in southern Indiana where my five greats grandfather, James MacMichael, born in Ireland, is buried. His gravestone says that he died November 16, 18-- (year looks like 1861 but am not positive) in service of his country at Jeffersonville, but I can find no references to that place. ------------------- There's a James McMichael (sic), who enlisted in Company I, 34th IN Inf. on 9 Oct 1861, who died at Jeffersonville, IN on 16 Nov 1861. Sounds like he might have died in an accident or of disease. ------------------- > Also, I have heard that his widow, Sarah, applied for a pension. Can anyone tell me how I would go about looking for a copy of it? ------------------- Union pension records are at the National Archives in Washington. If you can't get there yourself, you can ask them to send them by mail. The first thing you need to do is request Form 85. You can do this by sending an e-mail to inquire@nara.gov with "Form 85" as the subject. Tell them how many forms you need and what your mailing address is. Once the form arrives, fill out at least the required entries, mail it back, and then put it out of your mind - lately, it's been taking months to get a reply. I located the index card for Sarah's pension application at Ancestry.com. They are currently offering free access to their databases thru the 21st if you'd like to see it for yourself. Dennis mailto:fran@ees.eesc.com Sterling Heights Michigan USA

Randy Cook wrote: > > Yes, what you do is write to: National Archives and Records Admin, Textual Referenece Branch, 7th and Penn. ave NW, Washington, DC, 20408. Tell them you need a form NATF 80. When you get the form (ask for a couple) you can ask for either the soldiers pension record or military record . If you have 2 forms send > for each in separate envelopes! It is $10.00 each and well worth it! It will take a couple of months. --------------------------- Randy, Alas, this all changed effective last month. Pension records are now requested using Form 85, and military records using Form 86. Fees were revised as well: $17.00 for military service record $37.00 for the entire pension file $14.75 for a pension documents packet (Supposed to be the pension file documents - up to 10 pages - most likely to be considered useful to genealogists, but less than the number usually sent under the old system. See http://www.nara.gov/nara/1258fin.html for a description.) Dennis mailto:fran@ees.eesc.com Sterling Heights Michigan USA

I was told that my ancestor, John W. Dawson was from Ireland and was born abt. 1840. He enlisted in Rochester, Indiana. Is there anyone out there that can help me determine if he is from Ireland and when he came here? Also, who he married? Randy Cook wrote: > Yes, what you do is write to: National Archives and Records Admin, Textual Referenece Branch, 7th and Penn. ave NW, Washington, DC, 20408. Tell them you need a form NATF 80. When you get the form (ask for a couple) you can ask for either the soldiers pension record or military record . If you have 2 forms send > for each in separate envelopes! It is $10.00 each and well worth it! It will take a couple of months. > > victoria tester wrote: > > > Hello, everyone. Hoping someone on the list can help. Have two questions. > > > > Was recently in a small cemetery in southern Indiana where my five greats grandfather, James MacMichael, born in Ireland, is buried. His gravestone says that he died November 16, 18-- (year looks like 1861 but am not positive) in service of his country at Jeffersonville, but I can find no references to that place. > > Also, I have heard that his widow, Sarah, applied for a pension. Can anyone tell me how I would go about looking for a copy of it? > > > > Regards , > > Victoria Tester > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > To leave the list, type a message with only the word > > unsubscribe > > in the text and mailto:CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > "Remember Ireland and Fontenoy!" > Irish War Cry > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp

Yes, what you do is write to: National Archives and Records Admin, Textual Referenece Branch, 7th and Penn. ave NW, Washington, DC, 20408. Tell them you need a form NATF 80. When you get the form (ask for a couple) you can ask for either the soldiers pension record or military record . If you have 2 forms send for each in separate envelopes! It is $10.00 each and well worth it! It will take a couple of months. victoria tester wrote: > Hello, everyone. Hoping someone on the list can help. Have two questions. > > Was recently in a small cemetery in southern Indiana where my five greats grandfather, James MacMichael, born in Ireland, is buried. His gravestone says that he died November 16, 18-- (year looks like 1861 but am not positive) in service of his country at Jeffersonville, but I can find no references to that place. > Also, I have heard that his widow, Sarah, applied for a pension. Can anyone tell me how I would go about looking for a copy of it? > > Regards , > Victoria Tester > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, type a message with only the word > unsubscribe > in the text and mailto:CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Hello, everyone. Hoping someone on the list can help. Have two questions. Was recently in a small cemetery in southern Indiana where my five greats grandfather, James MacMichael, born in Ireland, is buried. His gravestone says that he died November 16, 18-- (year looks like 1861 but am not positive) in service of his country at Jeffersonville, but I can find no references to that place. Also, I have heard that his widow, Sarah, applied for a pension. Can anyone tell me how I would go about looking for a copy of it? Regards , Victoria Tester