Forwarded to the list: > "Edward C. Rapp" wrote: > > My great grandfather Andrew Crehan was a member of the 102d > Pennsylvania volunteers and was wounded in the battle of Spotsylvania > Courthouse and subsequently discharged bcasue of the wound. Any > information would be appreciated..
THE STORY OF TAPS It all began in 1862 during the Civil War, when Union Army Captain Robert Ellicombe was with his men near Harrison's Landing in Virginia. The Confederate Army was on the other side of the narrow strip of land. During the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moan of a soldier who lay mortally wounded on the field. Not knowing if it was a Union or Confederate soldier, the captain decided to risk his life and bring the stricken man back for medical attention. Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the captain reached the stricken soldier and began pulling him toward his encampment. When the captain finally reached his own lines, he discovered it was actually a Confederate soldier, but the soldier was dead. The captain lit a lantern. Suddenly he caught his breath and went numb with shock. In the dim light, he saw the face of the soldier. It was his own son. The boy had been studying music in the South when the war broke out. Without telling his father, he enlisted in the Confederate Army. The following morning, heartbroken, the father asked permission of his superiors to give his son a full military burial despite his enemy status. His request was partially granted. The captain had asked if he could have a group of Army band members play a funeral dirge of the son at the funeral. That request was turned down since the soldier was a Confederate. Out of respect for the father, they did say they could give him only one musician. The captain chose a bugler. He asked the bugler to play a series of musical notes he found on a piece of paper in the pocket of the dead youth's uniform. This wish was granted. This music was the haunting melody we now know as "Taps" used at all military funerals. First played for its composer.
In 1865, Henry C. Welles, a druggist in the village of Waterloo, NY, mentioned at a social gathering that honor should be shown to the patriotic dead of the Civil War by decorating their graves. In the Spring of 1866, he again mentioned this subject to General John B. Murray, Seneca County Clerk. General Murray embraced the idea and a committee was formulated to plan a day devoted to honoring the dead. Townspeople adopted the idea wholeheartedly. Wreaths, crosses and bouquets were made for each veteran's grave. The village was decorated with flags at half mast and draped with evergreen boughs and mourning black streamers. On May 5, 1866, civic societies joined the procession to the three existing cemeteries and were led by veterans marching to martial music. At each cemetery there were impressive and lengthy services including speeches by General Murray and a local clergyman. The ceremonies were repeated on May 5, 1867. The first official recognition of Memorial Day as such was issued by General John A. Logan, first commander of the Grand Army of the Republic. This was General Order No. 11 establishing "Decoration Day" as it was then known. The date of the order was May 5, 1868, exactly two years after Waterloo's first observance. That year Waterloo joined other communities in the nation by having their ceremony on May 30. In 1965, a committee of community leaders started plans for the Centennial Celebration of Memorial Day. The committee consisted of VFW Commander James McCann, chairman, American Legion Commander Oliver J. McFall and Mayor Marion DeCicca, co-chairman, along with Village Trustees, M. Lewis Somerville, Roscoe Bartran, Richard Schreck, Tony DiPronio, and VFW Vice-Commander, Kenneth Matoon. Their goals were: "to obtain national recognition of the fact that Waterloo is the birthplace of Memorial Day through Congressional action" and "to plan and execute a proper celebration for such centennial observance." In May of 1966, just in time for the Centennial, Waterloo was recognized as the "Birthplace of Memorial Day" by the United States Government. This recognition was long in coming and involved hours of painstaking research to prove the claim. While other communities may claim earlier observances of honoring the Civil War dead, none can claim to have been so well planned and complete, nor can they claim the continuity of observances that Waterloo can. The Centennial Celebration that year brought dignitaries from government, military, veteran's organizations and descendants of the original founders of Memorial Day. A once luxurious home on Waterloo's Main Street, built in 1850, was purchased from the county and restored. Now the Memorial Day Museum, it houses artifacts of the first Memorial Day and the Civil War era. The Northern states and some Southern states celebrate Memorial Day on the last Monday in May. This date was made a federal holiday in 1971. Some Southern states have Memorial Day celebrations to honor Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Mississippi and Alabama celebrate Confederate Memorial Day on the last Monday in April. In Florida and Georgia, the date is April 26. May 10 is Memorial Day in North and South Carolina, and the holiday is June 3 in Kentucky, Louisiana, and Tennessee. Texas observes Confederate Heroes Day on January 19 (Robert E. Lee's birthday). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Eulogy for a Veteran Do not stand at my grave and weep. I am not there, I do not sleep. I am a thousand winds that blow. I am the diamond glints on snow. I am the sunlight on ripened grain. I am the Gentle autumn rain. When you awaken in the mornings hush, I am the swift uplifting rush of quiet birds in circled flight, I am the soft stars that shine at night. Do not stand at my grave and cry, I am not there, I did not die. -Author Unknown ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Sometimes the indexes aren't correct. When I sent to NARA for the pension file of one of my 2g-grandfathers, giving the company and regiment, they couldn't find a file. Later I fond him in the pension index on ancestry.com. I sent the certificate number to NARA and then got his pension file. On the other hand, some pension files that I have gotten from NARA aren't on the ancestry.com index. Quite likely the names were transcribed incorrectly. -----Original Message----- From: Captain Gerard J. Nolan [mailto:surveyor@rivnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 4:40 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] 62nd NY Vol Infantry Bob: Unless he or his spouse applied for a pension, there will be no pension record. The Adjudant Generals Office is the definitive document for each of the several states. I can find no pension application for my gr-grandfather Michael Francis Nolan, yet, he was wounded and crippled just outside of Richmond, Va. Evidently he never filed for one. Again, in the case of several gr-granduncles, only two out of four filed. This is all I could find on your John Cooley on my Civil War Cd-rom: Company: G Unit: 62 N. Y. Infantry. Rank In: Private Rank Out: Private National Archives Microfilm Box, Roll, and Record: 000551, 0028, 00003263 Fought for: (U = Union, C = Confederate): U Dont give up the ship. Gerard J. Nolan Lottsburg, Va. 22511
Bob: Unless he or his spouse applied for a pension, there will be no pension record. The Adjudant Generals Office is the definitive document for each of the several states. I can find no pension application for my gr-grandfather Michael Francis Nolan, yet, he was wounded and crippled just outside of Richmond, Va. Evidently he never filed for one. Again, in the case of several gr-granduncles, only two out of four filed. This is all I could find on your John Cooley on my Civil War Cd-rom: Company: G Unit: 62 N. Y. Infantry. Rank In: Private Rank Out: Private National Archives Microfilm Box, Roll, and Record: 000551, 0028, 00003263 Fought for: (U = Union, C = Confederate): U Dont give up the ship. Gerard J. Nolan Lottsburg, Va. 22511
A few months ago, Ancestry.com offered free access to their Civil War database. I believe that I found my gg grandfather, John H. Cooley, at long last! However, NARA informs me that no pension file exists. I've resent for a search of the Military Service records ... hopefully that will be successful. If anyone has access to Ancestry.com, I would really appreciate some help. Along with the information on his unit and period of service, they had some sort of document regarding my gg grandfather that could be viewed. I was unable to view it, so if anyone has access and could scan the document and send it to my e-mail address, I would really appreciate it. The information is as follows: John Cooley Enlist Date - 14 June 1861; Enlist Place - New York City, NY; Enlist Age - 21; Enlist Rank - Private Served New York, Enlisted G Company 62nd Inf. Reg. NY, Mustered out at Petersburg, Va. on 29 June 1864 Source: New York - Report of the Adjutant General Published 1894-1906 Thanks again for your help. Bob Meany
----- Original Message ----- From: <RMeany@aol.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] 62nd NY Vol Infantry > A few months ago, Ancestry.com offered free access to their Civil War > database. I believe that I found my gg grandfather, John H. Cooley, at long > last! However, NARA informs me that no pension file exists. I've resent for > a search of the Military Service records ... hopefully that will be > successful. > > If anyone has access to Ancestry.com, I would really appreciate some help. > Along with the information on his unit and period of service, they had some > sort of document regarding my gg grandfather that could be viewed. I was > unable to view it, so if anyone has access and could scan the document and > send it to my e-mail address, I would really appreciate it. > > The information is as follows: > > John Cooley > Enlist Date - 14 June 1861; Enlist Place - New York City, NY; Enlist Age > - 21; Enlist Rank - Private > Served New York, Enlisted G Company 62nd Inf. Reg. NY, Mustered out at > Petersburg, Va. on 29 June 1864 > Source: New York - Report of the Adjutant General > Published 1894-1906 > > Thanks again for your help. Bob Meany > This says he was a member. Index to the Register of the Sixty-second Regiment of Infantry US Civil War http://www.io.com/~jhaller/acw/62-regx/62-reg03.html Desoto Joe/The Record Man
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No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To review past messages, visit the list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L/ > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:48:41 -0500 > From: "Desoto Joe" <joey@jcn1.com> > To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > > > Thank you for the information. I appreciate your response. > > > > Another question, if I may. I have checked on a Lilburn Carey to see if > he has > > a connection to my Simon C. Carey as they enlisted in the same day. I have > > papers that indicate Simon C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. I have the > > record of Lilburn having a physical exam performed by this Dr. Glen Owen > > Hardemann (physician/surgeon of the 71st E.M.M.). Then, I see (online > image) for > > Lilburn Carey/Cary through the Ancestry.com website (pension records) > listed as > > being in the 72nd E.M.M. Would this just be considered an error? (the > 72nd - on > > the image of his pension record) > > > > I'm learning why there are so many dates of enrolling for Simon C.Carey. > If they > > were allowed to go home, they must have given them a new enrollment date > each > > time they returned to duty. > > > > This may be more information than you are interested in hearing. > > > > There are 4 "cards" that have been copied on one legal sheet of paper. > Three of > > the "cards" relate to the 71st Reg't. E.M.M., the fourth relates to the > 1st > > Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M". > > > > 71st Regt. E.M.M. Co. (could be L) Comd'g Capt Corum Enrolled Apr 25, 1862 > ** in > > Marshall Mo - relieved from duty Feb 20, 1863 (No. days actual service > 148) > > ** The enrollment date of Apr 25, 1862 has been confusing as the > information I > > am getting is that the E.M.M. wasn't organized until July, 1862. What > would he > > have been enrolling in as of April 25, 1862, I wonder? > > > > 71st Regt. E.M.M Capt. Corum Enrolled Sept. 23, 1862, Where: Marshall > Remarks: > > "Substitute for Thomas Owens." > > > > I have recently corresponded with a Thomas Owens' descendent researcher. > > Evidently Owens died Feb 3, 1863. Probably was in ill health at the time > of his > > being drafted and that is why a substitute was contacted. He lived in > Saline > > County, MO, Salt Pond Twp and Simon Carey enlisted in Saline County > (Marshall, > > MO). The Owens family appears to have been rather financially set. > > > > Simon met and married my great-grandmother (she and her family were living > in > > Lexington (Lafayette Co.) December 24, 1863. They married in Ray County, > MO. I > > believe the 71st might have served in Ray County (Crooked River Twp) > during > > 1863. > > > > The 71st Regt. E.M.M. under Capt. McKown states that Simon C. Carey > enrolled > > Jan. 17, 1863 in Marshall, MO. Remarks: Co. disbanded by S.O. 62 May 6, > 1863. > > (I'm not sure what this means exactly except they were disbanded.) > > > > Simon then joined the 7th Missouri Cavalry Vols, Co. C (Union) in > Hannibal, MO. > > Marion County. (Marion County, 1860 census is the first we see of Simon). > > Enrollment was August 15, 1864 by Capt. H. W. Hollingsworth. > > > > Another "card" for the 1st Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M", Com'd'g. Capt. > Prewitt, > > enlisted Aug. 15, 1864, Where Hannibal, MO. Mustered in Aug. 15, 1864, > Where > > Hannibal, Mo., Remarks: Vet. Mustered out Sept. 1, 1865, Where: Little > Rock, > > Ark. > > > > He died, a month after arriving home, from an "abscess in his side". > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > Patricia Carey Bishop > > donbi@concentric.net > > > > > > 71st Regiment Enrolled Militia Infantry > > Duty in Ray County. Affairs in Jackson and Lafayette Counties November > 26-29, 1862. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > > 1st Regiment Cavalry > > Organized at Jefferson Barracks, Mo., September 6, 1861. Moved to Benton > Barracks > September 12, thence to Jefferson City, Mo., September 21 (5 Cos.). Other > Companies > moved to Jefferson City October 4 and Joined Regiment at Tipton, Mo., > October 19. > Expedition to Lexington October 5-16 (Cos. "C" and "L"). Capture of > Lexington October > 16 (Cos. "C" and "L"). Warrensburg October 18. Fremont's advance on > Springfield, Mo., > October 20-26. 1st Battalion (Cos. "A," "C," "D" and "E") moved to Sedalia, > Mo., as escort > to General Hunter, November; thence to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and duty > there until > May, 1862. Attached to Dept. of Kansas November, 1861, to May, 1862. > District of > Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to October, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 2nd > Division, Army > of the Frontier, Dept. of Missouri, to February, 1863. 2nd Brigade, 3rd > Division, Army of the > Frontier, to June, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, District of > Southeast Missouri, > Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1863. Reserve Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, > Arkansas > Expedition, to December, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Division Cavalry, Army of > Arkansas, to > January, 1864. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, Dept. of > Arkansas, to > May, 1864. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1864. > (Regiment > consolidated to 7 Cos. September 10, 1864.) 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, > 7th Army Corps, > to March, 1865. Separate Brigade, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1865. > > SERVICE.--Operations about Atchison, Kansas, January 20-24, 1862 (Co. "E"). > Pink Hill > March 31 (Cos. "C" and "D"). Moved to Independence, Mo., May, 1862, and > operating > against guerrillas until September, 1862. Scout to Little Blue May 15-17 > (Detachment). > Independence May 16 (Detachment). Near Sedalia June 5 (Cos. "A," "C" and > "E"). > Operations in Johnson County June 28-29. Expedition toward Blackwater and > Chapel Hill > July 6-9. Expedition in Casa County July 9-11. Lotspeach Farm, near > Wadesburg, July 9. > Sear's House and Big Creek Bluffs, near Pleasant Hill, August 8 (Cos. "A," > "C" and "D"). > Joined Herron's Division September --. At Rolla, Mo., until June, 1863. > Moved to Pilot > Knob and Join Davidson's Cavalry Division. Expedition against Little Rock, > Ark., July > 1-September 10. Pocahontas August 24. Shallow Ford, Bayou Metoe, August 30. > Near > Shallow Ford September 2. Bayou Fourche and capture of Little Rock September > 10. > Expedition from Benton to Mt. Ida November 10-18, Caddo Gap November 11. > Near Benton > December 1. Reconnaissance from Little Rock December 5-13. At Little Rock > until March, > 1864. Carter's Creek January 23, 1864. Steele's Expedition to Camden March > 23-May 3. > Rockport March 25. Arkadelphia March 29. Spoonville April 2. Little Missouri > River April > 6. Prairie D'Ann April 9-12. Camden April 15. Jenkins' Ferry, Saline River, > April 30. > Operations against Shelby north of Arkansas River May 18-31. Osceola August > 2. Benton > August 18. Near Pine Bluff August 18. Scout to Benton September 6-7. > Reconnaissance to > Princeton October 19-23. Expedition to Saline River November 17-18. > Expedition to Mt. > Elba January 22-February 4, 1865. At Little Rock until September. Mustered > out September > 1, 1865. > > 2nd Battalion--(Cos. "B," "H," "I", and "L.") Moved to Otterville, Mo., > November, 1861, > and duty there until February, 1862. Expedition to Milford December 15-19. > Shawnee > Mound, Milford, Blackwater River, December 19. Roan's Tan Yard, Silver > Creek, January 8, > 1862. Joined 3rd Battalion at Lebanon February 9. Attached to 3rd Brigade, > Army of > Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to February, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 3rd > Division, Army > of Southwest Missouri, to April, 1862. Cassville, Mo., District of Southwest > Missouri, to > October, 1862. (Detached from 3rd Battalion at Cassville, Mo., April 7.) > Unattached, 2nd > Division, Army of the Frontier, to January, 1863; then same as 1st > Battalion. Advance on > Springfield, Mo., February 13-16. Pursuit of Price to Fayetteville, Ark., > February 13-16. > Skirmish with Price's Rear Guard February 14-15. Bentonville February 17. > Sugar Creek > February 18. Reconnaissance to Berryville March 3-7. Battles of Pea Ridge > March 7-8. > Leetown March 7. Elkhorn Tavern March 8. Operations against Stan Wattee > March 19-23. > At Cross Timbers until April 6. Moved to Cassville April 6-7. Santa Fe Road > April 14. > Neosho April 26. Near Newtonia August 8. Union Mills August 20. Occupation > of Newtonia > October 4, Battle of Prairie Grove, Ark., December 7. Expedition over Boston > Mountains > December 27-29. Dripping Springs and capture of Van Buren December 28. (See > 1st > Battalion.) > > 3rd Battalion--(Cos. "F," "G," "K" and "M."). Moved to Rolla, Mo., November, > 1861. > Expedition against Sam Freeman December --. Stein's Creek, LaClede County, > January 1, > 1862. Scouting on the Gasconade until January 15, 1862. Attached to 3rd > Brigade, Army of > Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to April, 1862. 2nd Division, Army of > Southwest > Missouri, to July, 1862. District of Eastern Arkansas, Dept. of Missouri, to > December, 1862. > 1st Brigade, 3rd Cavalry Division, District of Eastern Arkansas, to January, > 1863, Helena, > Ark., District of Eastern Arkansas, 13th Army Corps, Dept. of Tennessee, to > January, 1863. > District Of Memphis, Tenn., 16th Army Corps, to March, 1863. 4th Brigade, > District of > Memphis, 5th Division, 16th Army Corps, to June, 1863. Dept. of Missouri to > December, > 1863. New Madrid, Mo., to September, 1864. > > SERVICE.--Curtis' Campaign in Southwest Missouri January 15-February 16, > 1862. > Occupation of Lebanon January 26, 1862. Reconnaissance beyond Bolivar > February 6-9. > Bolivar February 8. Advance on Springfield, Mo., February 10-13. Pursuit of > Price to > Fayetteville, Ark., February 13-16. Skirmish with Price's Rear Guard > February 14-15. > Bentonville February 17. Sugar Creek February 18. Reconnaissance to > Berryville March > 3-7. Battles of Pea Ridge March 6-9. Leetown March 7. Elkhorn Tavern March > 8. > Operations against Stan Wattee March 1923. At Cross Timbers until April 6. > Advance to > Forsyth, thence to Batesville April 7-May 5. (Co. "F" detached as escort to > General Jeff C. > Davis May 10, 1862, and moved to Army of the Tennessee.) March to Helena, > Ark., May > 25-July 14. Big Indian Creek, White County, May 23. Searcy, White County, > May 27. > Taberville August 11. Lagrange September 6. Expedition to Lawrenceville and > St. Charles > September 11-13. Expedition from Helena to Lagrange September 26. Near > Helena October > 11. Expedition from Helena to Moro November 5-8. At Helena, Ark., until > January 29, 1863. > Moved to Memphis, Tenn., and duty there until June. Carter's Creek Pike > April 27. > Expedition to Hernando May 23-24 and May 26 (Detachments). Scouts toward > Hernando > May 27-28 (Detachment). Operations in Northwest Mississippi June 15-25. > Coldwater, near > Hernando, June 19 (Detachment). Hernando June 20. Moved to St. Louis, Mo., > June > 30-July 3; thence to Cape Girardeau escorting train July 20-27. March to > Bloomfield and > return to Cape Girardeau August 1-6. Expedition to Pocahontas August 17-27. > Pocahontas > August 24. At Cape Girardeau and Pilot Knob until October 23, and at > Bloomfield until > December 14. Moved to New Madrid, Mo., and duty there until September, 1864. > In swamps > of Little River April 6, 1864. Scout to Gainesville, Ark., May 10-25. > Expedition to > Carruthersville July 5-10. Operations in Southeast Missouri and Northeast > Arkansas July > 18-August 6. Company "F" served detached as escort to General Jeff C. Davis, > commanding > 4th Division, Army of Mississippi, to September, 1862; then with > Headquarters, 9th > Division, 3rd Corps, Army of Ohio, to November, 1862. 1st Division, Right > Wing 14th Army > Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to January, 1863. 1st Division, 20th Army > Corps, Army of > the Cumberland, to October, 1863. At Headquarters, Dept. of Missouri, to > August, 1864. > Siege of Corinth, Miss., April 29-May 30, 1862. Campaign against Bragg in > Kentucky > October, 1862. Stone River Campaign December, 1862-January, 1863. Weem's > Springs > August 19, 1863. > > Regiment lost during service 2 Officers and 51 Enlisted men killed and > mortally wounded > and 2 Officers and 179 Enlisted men by disease. Total 234. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > 7th Regiment Cavalry > > Organized February 20, 1862, by consolidation of Black Hawk Cavalry and > Unattached > Companies. Attached to Dept. of Kansas to June, 1862. District of Southwest > Missouri, > Dept. of Missouri, to October, 1862. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of the > Frontier, Dept. > of Missouri, to June, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, District of > Southeast Missouri, > Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, > Arkansas Expedition, > to January, 1864. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, Dept. > of Arkansas, to > May, 1864. Clayton's Independent Cavalry Brigade, 7th Army Corps, to > September, 1864. > 1st Brigade, Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, to February, 1865. 2nd > Brigade, Cavalry > Division, 7th Army Corps, to February, 1865. > > SERVICE.--Operations about Miami and Waverly May 25-28, 1862. Scouts to > Waverly, > Miami, Franklin and Pink Hill June 4-10 (Cos. "H" and "I"). Pink Hill June > 11 > (Detachment). Haytown June 23 (Co. "B") Operations about Sibley and Pink > Hill June > 28-July 1 (Cos. "B," "D," "F" and "K"). Lotspeach Farm, near Wadesburg, July > 9. > Expeditions in Cass County July 9-11; on Blackwater, near Columbus, July 23. > Lone Jack > August 16 (5 Cos,). Occupation of Newtonia October 4. Battle of Prairie > Grove, Ark., > December 7. Van Buren December 21. Expedition over Boston Mountains December > 27-29. > Moved to Flat Creek February, 1863; thence to Rolla, Mo. Operations against > Marmaduke > April 17-May 2. At Pilot Knob, Mo., until July. Brownsville, Ark., July 25. > Steele's > Expedition against Little Rock, Ark., August 1-September 10. Grand Prairie > August 17. > Brownsville August 25. Bayou Fourche and capture of Little Rock September > 10. Pursuit of > Price September 11-14. Near Little Rock September 11. Expedition from Benton > to Mt, Ida > November 10-18. Reconnaissance from Little Rock December 5-13. Princeton > December 8. > Branchville January 17, 1864. Monticello March 18, 1864. Steele's Expedition > to Camden > March 23-May 3. Expedition from Pine Bluff to Mr. Elba and Longview March > 27-31. Mt. > Elba March 30 and pursuit to Big Creek. Mark's Mills April 25 (Detachment). > Expedition > from Pine Bluff September 9-11. Near Monticello September 10 (Detachment). > Brewer's > Lane September 11 (Detachment). Reconnaissance from Little Rock toward > Monticello and > Mt. Elba October 4-11. Expedition from Pine Bluff and skirmish January 7-9, > 1865 > (Detachment). Near Pine Bluff January 9. Consolidated with 1st Missouri > Cavalry February > 22, 1865. > > Regiment lost during service 4 Officers and 55 Enlisted men killed and > mortally wounded > and 4 Officers and 228 Enlisted men by disease. Total 291. > > Desoto Joe/The Record Man > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:34:37 EDT > From: Staleygeni@aol.com > To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > Can someone tell me what Regiment men from Cooper County, MO,. were in. My > ancestors were there in the l850 census, they they all disappeared. I know > not. > > Incidentally to all of those who read and liked the Civil War letters of > Josiah Staley, I am placing them in the Gettysburg, Pa. Military Museum next > week. The l865 Map I had of the Southern Battlefields will also go to the > same Museum as well as the two volumes of Harpers Pictorial History Of The > Civil War, dated l864 and l865.
Can someone tell me what Regiment men from Cooper County, MO,. were in. My ancestors were there in the l850 census, they they all disappeared. I know not. Incidentally to all of those who read and liked the Civil War letters of Josiah Staley, I am placing them in the Gettysburg, Pa. Military Museum next week. The l865 Map I had of the Southern Battlefields will also go to the same Museum as well as the two volumes of Harpers Pictorial History Of The Civil War, dated l864 and l865.
----- Original Message ----- From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > Thank you for the information. I appreciate your response. > > Another question, if I may. I have checked on a Lilburn Carey to see if he has > a connection to my Simon C. Carey as they enlisted in the same day. I have > papers that indicate Simon C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. I have the > record of Lilburn having a physical exam performed by this Dr. Glen Owen > Hardemann (physician/surgeon of the 71st E.M.M.). Then, I see (online image) for > Lilburn Carey/Cary through the Ancestry.com website (pension records) listed as > being in the 72nd E.M.M. Would this just be considered an error? (the 72nd - on > the image of his pension record) > > I'm learning why there are so many dates of enrolling for Simon C.Carey. If they > were allowed to go home, they must have given them a new enrollment date each > time they returned to duty. > > This may be more information than you are interested in hearing. > > There are 4 "cards" that have been copied on one legal sheet of paper. Three of > the "cards" relate to the 71st Reg't. E.M.M., the fourth relates to the 1st > Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M". > > 71st Regt. E.M.M. Co. (could be L) Comd'g Capt Corum Enrolled Apr 25, 1862 ** in > Marshall Mo - relieved from duty Feb 20, 1863 (No. days actual service 148) > ** The enrollment date of Apr 25, 1862 has been confusing as the information I > am getting is that the E.M.M. wasn't organized until July, 1862. What would he > have been enrolling in as of April 25, 1862, I wonder? > > 71st Regt. E.M.M Capt. Corum Enrolled Sept. 23, 1862, Where: Marshall Remarks: > "Substitute for Thomas Owens." > > I have recently corresponded with a Thomas Owens' descendent researcher. > Evidently Owens died Feb 3, 1863. Probably was in ill health at the time of his > being drafted and that is why a substitute was contacted. He lived in Saline > County, MO, Salt Pond Twp and Simon Carey enlisted in Saline County (Marshall, > MO). The Owens family appears to have been rather financially set. > > Simon met and married my great-grandmother (she and her family were living in > Lexington (Lafayette Co.) December 24, 1863. They married in Ray County, MO. I > believe the 71st might have served in Ray County (Crooked River Twp) during > 1863. > > The 71st Regt. E.M.M. under Capt. McKown states that Simon C. Carey enrolled > Jan. 17, 1863 in Marshall, MO. Remarks: Co. disbanded by S.O. 62 May 6, 1863. > (I'm not sure what this means exactly except they were disbanded.) > > Simon then joined the 7th Missouri Cavalry Vols, Co. C (Union) in Hannibal, MO. > Marion County. (Marion County, 1860 census is the first we see of Simon). > Enrollment was August 15, 1864 by Capt. H. W. Hollingsworth. > > Another "card" for the 1st Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M", Com'd'g. Capt. Prewitt, > enlisted Aug. 15, 1864, Where Hannibal, MO. Mustered in Aug. 15, 1864, Where > Hannibal, Mo., Remarks: Vet. Mustered out Sept. 1, 1865, Where: Little Rock, > Ark. > > He died, a month after arriving home, from an "abscess in his side". > > Thanks for your reply. > > Patricia Carey Bishop > donbi@concentric.net > > 71st Regiment Enrolled Militia Infantry Duty in Ray County. Affairs in Jackson and Lafayette Counties November 26-29, 1862. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- 1st Regiment Cavalry Organized at Jefferson Barracks, Mo., September 6, 1861. Moved to Benton Barracks September 12, thence to Jefferson City, Mo., September 21 (5 Cos.). Other Companies moved to Jefferson City October 4 and Joined Regiment at Tipton, Mo., October 19. Expedition to Lexington October 5-16 (Cos. "C" and "L"). Capture of Lexington October 16 (Cos. "C" and "L"). Warrensburg October 18. Fremont's advance on Springfield, Mo., October 20-26. 1st Battalion (Cos. "A," "C," "D" and "E") moved to Sedalia, Mo., as escort to General Hunter, November; thence to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and duty there until May, 1862. Attached to Dept. of Kansas November, 1861, to May, 1862. District of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to October, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of the Frontier, Dept. of Missouri, to February, 1863. 2nd Brigade, 3rd Division, Army of the Frontier, to June, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, District of Southeast Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1863. Reserve Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, Arkansas Expedition, to December, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Division Cavalry, Army of Arkansas, to January, 1864. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, Dept. of Arkansas, to May, 1864. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1864. (Regiment consolidated to 7 Cos. September 10, 1864.) 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, to March, 1865. Separate Brigade, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1865. SERVICE.--Operations about Atchison, Kansas, January 20-24, 1862 (Co. "E"). Pink Hill March 31 (Cos. "C" and "D"). Moved to Independence, Mo., May, 1862, and operating against guerrillas until September, 1862. Scout to Little Blue May 15-17 (Detachment). Independence May 16 (Detachment). Near Sedalia June 5 (Cos. "A," "C" and "E"). Operations in Johnson County June 28-29. Expedition toward Blackwater and Chapel Hill July 6-9. Expedition in Casa County July 9-11. Lotspeach Farm, near Wadesburg, July 9. Sear's House and Big Creek Bluffs, near Pleasant Hill, August 8 (Cos. "A," "C" and "D"). Joined Herron's Division September --. At Rolla, Mo., until June, 1863. Moved to Pilot Knob and Join Davidson's Cavalry Division. Expedition against Little Rock, Ark., July 1-September 10. Pocahontas August 24. Shallow Ford, Bayou Metoe, August 30. Near Shallow Ford September 2. Bayou Fourche and capture of Little Rock September 10. Expedition from Benton to Mt. Ida November 10-18, Caddo Gap November 11. Near Benton December 1. Reconnaissance from Little Rock December 5-13. At Little Rock until March, 1864. Carter's Creek January 23, 1864. Steele's Expedition to Camden March 23-May 3. Rockport March 25. Arkadelphia March 29. Spoonville April 2. Little Missouri River April 6. Prairie D'Ann April 9-12. Camden April 15. Jenkins' Ferry, Saline River, April 30. Operations against Shelby north of Arkansas River May 18-31. Osceola August 2. Benton August 18. Near Pine Bluff August 18. Scout to Benton September 6-7. Reconnaissance to Princeton October 19-23. Expedition to Saline River November 17-18. Expedition to Mt. Elba January 22-February 4, 1865. At Little Rock until September. Mustered out September 1, 1865. 2nd Battalion--(Cos. "B," "H," "I", and "L.") Moved to Otterville, Mo., November, 1861, and duty there until February, 1862. Expedition to Milford December 15-19. Shawnee Mound, Milford, Blackwater River, December 19. Roan's Tan Yard, Silver Creek, January 8, 1862. Joined 3rd Battalion at Lebanon February 9. Attached to 3rd Brigade, Army of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to February, 1862. 2nd Brigade, 3rd Division, Army of Southwest Missouri, to April, 1862. Cassville, Mo., District of Southwest Missouri, to October, 1862. (Detached from 3rd Battalion at Cassville, Mo., April 7.) Unattached, 2nd Division, Army of the Frontier, to January, 1863; then same as 1st Battalion. Advance on Springfield, Mo., February 13-16. Pursuit of Price to Fayetteville, Ark., February 13-16. Skirmish with Price's Rear Guard February 14-15. Bentonville February 17. Sugar Creek February 18. Reconnaissance to Berryville March 3-7. Battles of Pea Ridge March 7-8. Leetown March 7. Elkhorn Tavern March 8. Operations against Stan Wattee March 19-23. At Cross Timbers until April 6. Moved to Cassville April 6-7. Santa Fe Road April 14. Neosho April 26. Near Newtonia August 8. Union Mills August 20. Occupation of Newtonia October 4, Battle of Prairie Grove, Ark., December 7. Expedition over Boston Mountains December 27-29. Dripping Springs and capture of Van Buren December 28. (See 1st Battalion.) 3rd Battalion--(Cos. "F," "G," "K" and "M."). Moved to Rolla, Mo., November, 1861. Expedition against Sam Freeman December --. Stein's Creek, LaClede County, January 1, 1862. Scouting on the Gasconade until January 15, 1862. Attached to 3rd Brigade, Army of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to April, 1862. 2nd Division, Army of Southwest Missouri, to July, 1862. District of Eastern Arkansas, Dept. of Missouri, to December, 1862. 1st Brigade, 3rd Cavalry Division, District of Eastern Arkansas, to January, 1863, Helena, Ark., District of Eastern Arkansas, 13th Army Corps, Dept. of Tennessee, to January, 1863. District Of Memphis, Tenn., 16th Army Corps, to March, 1863. 4th Brigade, District of Memphis, 5th Division, 16th Army Corps, to June, 1863. Dept. of Missouri to December, 1863. New Madrid, Mo., to September, 1864. SERVICE.--Curtis' Campaign in Southwest Missouri January 15-February 16, 1862. Occupation of Lebanon January 26, 1862. Reconnaissance beyond Bolivar February 6-9. Bolivar February 8. Advance on Springfield, Mo., February 10-13. Pursuit of Price to Fayetteville, Ark., February 13-16. Skirmish with Price's Rear Guard February 14-15. Bentonville February 17. Sugar Creek February 18. Reconnaissance to Berryville March 3-7. Battles of Pea Ridge March 6-9. Leetown March 7. Elkhorn Tavern March 8. Operations against Stan Wattee March 1923. At Cross Timbers until April 6. Advance to Forsyth, thence to Batesville April 7-May 5. (Co. "F" detached as escort to General Jeff C. Davis May 10, 1862, and moved to Army of the Tennessee.) March to Helena, Ark., May 25-July 14. Big Indian Creek, White County, May 23. Searcy, White County, May 27. Taberville August 11. Lagrange September 6. Expedition to Lawrenceville and St. Charles September 11-13. Expedition from Helena to Lagrange September 26. Near Helena October 11. Expedition from Helena to Moro November 5-8. At Helena, Ark., until January 29, 1863. Moved to Memphis, Tenn., and duty there until June. Carter's Creek Pike April 27. Expedition to Hernando May 23-24 and May 26 (Detachments). Scouts toward Hernando May 27-28 (Detachment). Operations in Northwest Mississippi June 15-25. Coldwater, near Hernando, June 19 (Detachment). Hernando June 20. Moved to St. Louis, Mo., June 30-July 3; thence to Cape Girardeau escorting train July 20-27. March to Bloomfield and return to Cape Girardeau August 1-6. Expedition to Pocahontas August 17-27. Pocahontas August 24. At Cape Girardeau and Pilot Knob until October 23, and at Bloomfield until December 14. Moved to New Madrid, Mo., and duty there until September, 1864. In swamps of Little River April 6, 1864. Scout to Gainesville, Ark., May 10-25. Expedition to Carruthersville July 5-10. Operations in Southeast Missouri and Northeast Arkansas July 18-August 6. Company "F" served detached as escort to General Jeff C. Davis, commanding 4th Division, Army of Mississippi, to September, 1862; then with Headquarters, 9th Division, 3rd Corps, Army of Ohio, to November, 1862. 1st Division, Right Wing 14th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to January, 1863. 1st Division, 20th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to October, 1863. At Headquarters, Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1864. Siege of Corinth, Miss., April 29-May 30, 1862. Campaign against Bragg in Kentucky October, 1862. Stone River Campaign December, 1862-January, 1863. Weem's Springs August 19, 1863. Regiment lost during service 2 Officers and 51 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 2 Officers and 179 Enlisted men by disease. Total 234. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ 7th Regiment Cavalry Organized February 20, 1862, by consolidation of Black Hawk Cavalry and Unattached Companies. Attached to Dept. of Kansas to June, 1862. District of Southwest Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to October, 1862. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, Army of the Frontier, Dept. of Missouri, to June, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, District of Southeast Missouri, Dept. of Missouri, to August, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, Arkansas Expedition, to January, 1864. 1st Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, Dept. of Arkansas, to May, 1864. Clayton's Independent Cavalry Brigade, 7th Army Corps, to September, 1864. 1st Brigade, Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, to February, 1865. 2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, 7th Army Corps, to February, 1865. SERVICE.--Operations about Miami and Waverly May 25-28, 1862. Scouts to Waverly, Miami, Franklin and Pink Hill June 4-10 (Cos. "H" and "I"). Pink Hill June 11 (Detachment). Haytown June 23 (Co. "B") Operations about Sibley and Pink Hill June 28-July 1 (Cos. "B," "D," "F" and "K"). Lotspeach Farm, near Wadesburg, July 9. Expeditions in Cass County July 9-11; on Blackwater, near Columbus, July 23. Lone Jack August 16 (5 Cos,). Occupation of Newtonia October 4. Battle of Prairie Grove, Ark., December 7. Van Buren December 21. Expedition over Boston Mountains December 27-29. Moved to Flat Creek February, 1863; thence to Rolla, Mo. Operations against Marmaduke April 17-May 2. At Pilot Knob, Mo., until July. Brownsville, Ark., July 25. Steele's Expedition against Little Rock, Ark., August 1-September 10. Grand Prairie August 17. Brownsville August 25. Bayou Fourche and capture of Little Rock September 10. Pursuit of Price September 11-14. Near Little Rock September 11. Expedition from Benton to Mt, Ida November 10-18. Reconnaissance from Little Rock December 5-13. Princeton December 8. Branchville January 17, 1864. Monticello March 18, 1864. Steele's Expedition to Camden March 23-May 3. Expedition from Pine Bluff to Mr. Elba and Longview March 27-31. Mt. Elba March 30 and pursuit to Big Creek. Mark's Mills April 25 (Detachment). Expedition from Pine Bluff September 9-11. Near Monticello September 10 (Detachment). Brewer's Lane September 11 (Detachment). Reconnaissance from Little Rock toward Monticello and Mt. Elba October 4-11. Expedition from Pine Bluff and skirmish January 7-9, 1865 (Detachment). Near Pine Bluff January 9. Consolidated with 1st Missouri Cavalry February 22, 1865. Regiment lost during service 4 Officers and 55 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 4 Officers and 228 Enlisted men by disease. Total 291. Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Philip: My great-grandfather Simon C. Carey, who was in the 71st E.M.M. was from Ireland - County Clare. He entered the service at 17 years of age. He died a month after returning home from the Civil War. The only stories my Dad told were that he performed the "Irish Jig" for the troops. I'm sure those from Ireland enjoyed that. On his papers, when he was mustered out of the 1st Cavalry in 1865 he was issued a sabre. When I was a child, I remember seeing that saber at home. It was sold or given away by my Dad's sister. This broke his heart. Simon was in Marion County in the 1860 census working on a farm. He must have answered an ad for a substitute as on his papers for the 71st E.M.M. it lists him as a substitute for a Thomas Owens. Both Simon's enlistment and the residence of Thomas Owens was in Saline County, MO. I have recently contacted a researcher of Thomas Owens' family. It seems he died shortly after Simon enlisted for him. He must have been ill. I would have thought that would have allowed Thomas Owens to be deferred and he wouldn't have needed a substitute. According to family history, Simon came to the U.S. with a brother. We have never been able to identify him. After Simon's enlistment in the 71st E.M.M. he went back to Marion County (Hannibal) and that is where he re-enlisted in the 7th Missouri Cav. (Union) Why he went back to Marian County is a mystery. By enlisting at Saline County and then being in Ray County (Crooked River Township) and I am assuming he fought at the Battle of Lexington, I wonder why he went back to where we found him in the 1860 census to enlist in another regiment. I do remember Dad talking about his Dad saying that he was in the Battle of Lone Jack as well. Simon died in 1865 and my great-grandmother died in 1868 so I don't have much information. My Grandfather, who was raised by his Grandparents never seemed to talk much about his parents. I would love to hear any stories you may have of your GGGrandfather. Pat Philip Lindsey wrote: > Hello, > > I was interested in the message below but wrote direct. To answer the first > question: Yes, sometimes men fought on either side. It was a dangerous place to > be. > More to the point, my GGGrandfather was Willis Pinkney Lindsey who served > with the 71st EMM as a second corporal, moving from his farm in Boone County > (next door to a brother whose sons fought for the South) to Saline County. I have > found him in the Saline County history of 1883, and he was buried there in 1904. > Your Careys and my Lindsey probably knew each other. > Would like to hear back from you. You are the first ever (I think) to mention > the Mo 71st EMM onlist. > > Best Regards, > > Phil Lindsey > > CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Subject: > > > > CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 17 > > > > Today's Topics: > > #1 [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regimen [Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net>] > > > > Administrivia: > > To unsubscribe from CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D, send a message to > > > > CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > > > unsubscribe > > > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > > To review past messages, visit the list archives at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L/ > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:09:28 -0600 > > From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> > > To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Can someone tell me if the 65th Enrolled Missouri Militia was a > > Confederate Regiment or a Union Regiment? > > > > I leave for Ireland on April 24 and I'm trying gather as much info as > > possible. > > > > Henry B. Carey enlisted in the 65th E.M.M. He then enlisted in the 16th > > Missouri Infantry Co. B (CSA). Could it happen that a person would > > enlist on one side and then join another? He was in the 1860 Marion > > County, MO census-birthplace Ireland (County?). > > > > Simon C. Carey or S.C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. on April 25, > > 1862 Saline County, MO (Marshall) I have those papers- relieved from > > duty April 20, 1862 or 1863. He then joined the Union 7th Missouri > > Cavalry Co. C & K and then enlisted Aug. 15, 1864 1st Missouri Cavalry > > and was mustered out at Little Rock AR Sept 1, 1865. He was my great > > grandfather. Born in Ireland. He was in the 1860 census Marion County, > > MO. I'm trying see if there is a connection to Henry B. (above) > > > > Lilburn Carey enlisted the same day - April 25, 1862 in the 71st E.M.M. > > Saline County, MO as Simon C. Carey. Lilburn was relieved from duty on > > November 30, 1862. On November 18, 1862 he was seen by a Dr. Glen O. > > Hardeman, physician surgeon for the 71st E.M.M. and next to his name is > > written APPLICATION REJECTED. (This information came from a list held by > > the University of Missouri, Columbia, MO in the Dr. Glen O. Hardeman > > file) Could this have meant that he was trying to enlist in a Federal > > unit the same as Simon and didn't pass? I have found no indication that > > he re-enlisted in any other unit. He also was in the 1860 census Saline > > County, MO. > > > > Does anyone have anymore information on these men? Especially with > > relationship to where they were from in Ireland? > > > > Thanks for any help in making these connections. > > > > Patricia Carey Bishop > > donbi@concentric.net > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > "Remember Ireland and Fontenoy!" > Irish War Cry > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com
Thank you for the information. I appreciate your response. Another question, if I may. I have checked on a Lilburn Carey to see if he has a connection to my Simon C. Carey as they enlisted in the same day. I have papers that indicate Simon C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. I have the record of Lilburn having a physical exam performed by this Dr. Glen Owen Hardemann (physician/surgeon of the 71st E.M.M.). Then, I see (online image) for Lilburn Carey/Cary through the Ancestry.com website (pension records) listed as being in the 72nd E.M.M. Would this just be considered an error? (the 72nd - on the image of his pension record) I'm learning why there are so many dates of enrolling for Simon C.Carey. If they were allowed to go home, they must have given them a new enrollment date each time they returned to duty. This may be more information than you are interested in hearing. There are 4 "cards" that have been copied on one legal sheet of paper. Three of the "cards" relate to the 71st Reg't. E.M.M., the fourth relates to the 1st Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M". 71st Regt. E.M.M. Co. (could be L) Comd'g Capt Corum Enrolled Apr 25, 1862 ** in Marshall Mo - relieved from duty Feb 20, 1863 (No. days actual service 148) ** The enrollment date of Apr 25, 1862 has been confusing as the information I am getting is that the E.M.M. wasn't organized until July, 1862. What would he have been enrolling in as of April 25, 1862, I wonder? 71st Regt. E.M.M Capt. Corum Enrolled Sept. 23, 1862, Where: Marshall Remarks: "Substitute for Thomas Owens." I have recently corresponded with a Thomas Owens' descendent researcher. Evidently Owens died Feb 3, 1863. Probably was in ill health at the time of his being drafted and that is why a substitute was contacted. He lived in Saline County, MO, Salt Pond Twp and Simon Carey enlisted in Saline County (Marshall, MO). The Owens family appears to have been rather financially set. Simon met and married my great-grandmother (she and her family were living in Lexington (Lafayette Co.) December 24, 1863. They married in Ray County, MO. I believe the 71st might have served in Ray County (Crooked River Twp) during 1863. The 71st Regt. E.M.M. under Capt. McKown states that Simon C. Carey enrolled Jan. 17, 1863 in Marshall, MO. Remarks: Co. disbanded by S.O. 62 May 6, 1863. (I'm not sure what this means exactly except they were disbanded.) Simon then joined the 7th Missouri Cavalry Vols, Co. C (Union) in Hannibal, MO. Marion County. (Marion County, 1860 census is the first we see of Simon). Enrollment was August 15, 1864 by Capt. H. W. Hollingsworth. Another "card" for the 1st Regt. Cav. Vols. Co. "M", Com'd'g. Capt. Prewitt, enlisted Aug. 15, 1864, Where Hannibal, MO. Mustered in Aug. 15, 1864, Where Hannibal, Mo., Remarks: Vet. Mustered out Sept. 1, 1865, Where: Little Rock, Ark. He died, a month after arriving home, from an "abscess in his side". Thanks for your reply. Patricia Carey Bishop donbi@concentric.net Desoto Joe wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:09 PM > Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > > > Can someone tell me if the 65th Enrolled Missouri Militia was a > > Confederate Regiment or a Union Regiment? > > > > I leave for Ireland on April 24 and I'm trying gather as much info as > > possible. > > > > Henry B. Carey enlisted in the 65th E.M.M. He then enlisted in the 16th > > Missouri Infantry Co. B (CSA). Could it happen that a person would > > enlist on one side and then join another? He was in the 1860 Marion > > County, MO census-birthplace Ireland (County?). > > > > Simon C. Carey or S.C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. on April 25, > > 1862 Saline County, MO (Marshall) I have those papers- relieved from > > duty April 20, 1862 or 1863. He then joined the Union 7th Missouri > > Cavalry Co. C & K and then enlisted Aug. 15, 1864 1st Missouri Cavalry > > and was mustered out at Little Rock AR Sept 1, 1865. He was my great > > grandfather. Born in Ireland. He was in the 1860 census Marion County, > > MO. I'm trying see if there is a connection to Henry B. (above) > > > > Lilburn Carey enlisted the same day - April 25, 1862 in the 71st E.M.M. > > Saline County, MO as Simon C. Carey. Lilburn was relieved from duty on > > November 30, 1862. On November 18, 1862 he was seen by a Dr. Glen O. > > Hardeman, physician surgeon for the 71st E.M.M. and next to his name is > > written APPLICATION REJECTED. (This information came from a list held by > > the University of Missouri, Columbia, MO in the Dr. Glen O. Hardeman > > file) Could this have meant that he was trying to enlist in a Federal > > unit the same as Simon and didn't pass? I have found no indication that > > he re-enlisted in any other unit. He also was in the 1860 census Saline > > County, MO. > > > > Does anyone have anymore information on these men? Especially with > > relationship to where they were from in Ireland? > > > > Thanks for any help in making these connections. > > > > Patricia Carey Bishop > > donbi@concentric.net > > > > The 65th was a Union unit. > > 65th Regiment Enrolled Militia Infantry > > Affair near Breckenridge June 9, 1864. Operations against Price September > and October, > 1864. Surrender of Carrollton October 17, 1864. Duty in District of > North Missouri. > > Many men changed sides during the conflict. The reasons were many & varied. > > As for the rejected application, this was probably for medical reasons, but > he could have convinced the doctor that he really did not want to join. > Without further info, you will never know for sure. Some men did not want to > fight in a "Rich mans war, but a poor mans fight." The militia units, > allowed the men to stay close to their homes & family, for the most part. > > Desoto Joe/The Record Man > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, type a message with only the word > unsubscribe > in the text and mailto:CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com
----- Original Message ----- From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > Can someone tell me if the 65th Enrolled Missouri Militia was a > Confederate Regiment or a Union Regiment? > > I leave for Ireland on April 24 and I'm trying gather as much info as > possible. > > Henry B. Carey enlisted in the 65th E.M.M. He then enlisted in the 16th > Missouri Infantry Co. B (CSA). Could it happen that a person would > enlist on one side and then join another? He was in the 1860 Marion > County, MO census-birthplace Ireland (County?). > > Simon C. Carey or S.C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. on April 25, > 1862 Saline County, MO (Marshall) I have those papers- relieved from > duty April 20, 1862 or 1863. He then joined the Union 7th Missouri > Cavalry Co. C & K and then enlisted Aug. 15, 1864 1st Missouri Cavalry > and was mustered out at Little Rock AR Sept 1, 1865. He was my great > grandfather. Born in Ireland. He was in the 1860 census Marion County, > MO. I'm trying see if there is a connection to Henry B. (above) > > Lilburn Carey enlisted the same day - April 25, 1862 in the 71st E.M.M. > Saline County, MO as Simon C. Carey. Lilburn was relieved from duty on > November 30, 1862. On November 18, 1862 he was seen by a Dr. Glen O. > Hardeman, physician surgeon for the 71st E.M.M. and next to his name is > written APPLICATION REJECTED. (This information came from a list held by > the University of Missouri, Columbia, MO in the Dr. Glen O. Hardeman > file) Could this have meant that he was trying to enlist in a Federal > unit the same as Simon and didn't pass? I have found no indication that > he re-enlisted in any other unit. He also was in the 1860 census Saline > County, MO. > > Does anyone have anymore information on these men? Especially with > relationship to where they were from in Ireland? > > Thanks for any help in making these connections. > > Patricia Carey Bishop > donbi@concentric.net > The 65th was a Union unit. 65th Regiment Enrolled Militia Infantry Affair near Breckenridge June 9, 1864. Operations against Price September and October, 1864. Surrender of Carrollton October 17, 1864. Duty in District of North Missouri. Many men changed sides during the conflict. The reasons were many & varied. As for the rejected application, this was probably for medical reasons, but he could have convinced the doctor that he really did not want to join. Without further info, you will never know for sure. Some men did not want to fight in a "Rich mans war, but a poor mans fight." The militia units, allowed the men to stay close to their homes & family, for the most part. Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Hello, I was interested in the message below but wrote direct. To answer the first question: Yes, sometimes men fought on either side. It was a dangerous place to be. More to the point, my GGGrandfather was Willis Pinkney Lindsey who served with the 71st EMM as a second corporal, moving from his farm in Boone County (next door to a brother whose sons fought for the South) to Saline County. I have found him in the Saline County history of 1883, and he was buried there in 1904. Your Careys and my Lindsey probably knew each other. Would like to hear back from you. You are the first ever (I think) to mention the Mo 71st EMM onlist. Best Regards, Phil Lindsey CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 17 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regimen [Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D, send a message to > > CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To review past messages, visit the list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L/ > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Missouri Regiments > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:09:28 -0600 > From: Don Bishop <donbi@concentric.net> > To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > Can someone tell me if the 65th Enrolled Missouri Militia was a > Confederate Regiment or a Union Regiment? > > I leave for Ireland on April 24 and I'm trying gather as much info as > possible. > > Henry B. Carey enlisted in the 65th E.M.M. He then enlisted in the 16th > Missouri Infantry Co. B (CSA). Could it happen that a person would > enlist on one side and then join another? He was in the 1860 Marion > County, MO census-birthplace Ireland (County?). > > Simon C. Carey or S.C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. on April 25, > 1862 Saline County, MO (Marshall) I have those papers- relieved from > duty April 20, 1862 or 1863. He then joined the Union 7th Missouri > Cavalry Co. C & K and then enlisted Aug. 15, 1864 1st Missouri Cavalry > and was mustered out at Little Rock AR Sept 1, 1865. He was my great > grandfather. Born in Ireland. He was in the 1860 census Marion County, > MO. I'm trying see if there is a connection to Henry B. (above) > > Lilburn Carey enlisted the same day - April 25, 1862 in the 71st E.M.M. > Saline County, MO as Simon C. Carey. Lilburn was relieved from duty on > November 30, 1862. On November 18, 1862 he was seen by a Dr. Glen O. > Hardeman, physician surgeon for the 71st E.M.M. and next to his name is > written APPLICATION REJECTED. (This information came from a list held by > the University of Missouri, Columbia, MO in the Dr. Glen O. Hardeman > file) Could this have meant that he was trying to enlist in a Federal > unit the same as Simon and didn't pass? I have found no indication that > he re-enlisted in any other unit. He also was in the 1860 census Saline > County, MO. > > Does anyone have anymore information on these men? Especially with > relationship to where they were from in Ireland? > > Thanks for any help in making these connections. > > Patricia Carey Bishop > donbi@concentric.net
Can someone tell me if the 65th Enrolled Missouri Militia was a Confederate Regiment or a Union Regiment? I leave for Ireland on April 24 and I'm trying gather as much info as possible. Henry B. Carey enlisted in the 65th E.M.M. He then enlisted in the 16th Missouri Infantry Co. B (CSA). Could it happen that a person would enlist on one side and then join another? He was in the 1860 Marion County, MO census-birthplace Ireland (County?). Simon C. Carey or S.C. Carey enlisted in the 71st E.M.M. on April 25, 1862 Saline County, MO (Marshall) I have those papers- relieved from duty April 20, 1862 or 1863. He then joined the Union 7th Missouri Cavalry Co. C & K and then enlisted Aug. 15, 1864 1st Missouri Cavalry and was mustered out at Little Rock AR Sept 1, 1865. He was my great grandfather. Born in Ireland. He was in the 1860 census Marion County, MO. I'm trying see if there is a connection to Henry B. (above) Lilburn Carey enlisted the same day - April 25, 1862 in the 71st E.M.M. Saline County, MO as Simon C. Carey. Lilburn was relieved from duty on November 30, 1862. On November 18, 1862 he was seen by a Dr. Glen O. Hardeman, physician surgeon for the 71st E.M.M. and next to his name is written APPLICATION REJECTED. (This information came from a list held by the University of Missouri, Columbia, MO in the Dr. Glen O. Hardeman file) Could this have meant that he was trying to enlist in a Federal unit the same as Simon and didn't pass? I have found no indication that he re-enlisted in any other unit. He also was in the 1860 census Saline County, MO. Does anyone have anymore information on these men? Especially with relationship to where they were from in Ireland? Thanks for any help in making these connections. Patricia Carey Bishop donbi@concentric.net
That was a interesting post Dennis. I have been researching Fettermans career and the 80 men who died with him for 3 years now. Not to much on the subject. There are some groups doing research on that period Ill see if I can dig anything up for you. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis J. Francis" <fran@ees.eesc.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Patrick KELLEHER - a success story > Thought it would be nice to take a departure from queries and talk about > what we had found out about our CW-era ancestors, as well as to just how > we discovered them. > > Like it is for many others, the b/m/d listings in the family Bible > (originally owned by my g-grandfather, Dennis Kelleher) was one of my > initial source of information - in this case for my Kelleher line. Many > of the names and dates, however, are from long before my mother's time, > and so she either didn't know them or her knowledge is sketchy at best. > > The first person listed is Patrick Kelleher, died 23 May 1867. My > mother said she'd been told "he was in the Civil War and then went West > to fight Indians" but didn't remember any details or from whom she'd > heard it, or even if it was true or not. Her sister recalled the same > story, so I felt it was worth checking out. > > I first tried looking him up a couple years ago at the ACW Research and > Genealogy Database ( http://www.civilwardata.com ). There were several > PKs listed, some of whom I could easily discard, such as the 45 year old > (probably the wrong generation) and the guy who deserted (not likely to > show his face at another army post), but a shotgun approach for the rest > would run $50 with no guarantees, so that was out. (One of the > shortcomings with almost the muster databases is they haven't uploaded > records for US Regular Army soldiers yet.) > > Then last August, not really expecting success, I tried > http://www.ancestry.com for their Union Army pension index. And here > was a Patrick Kelleher of Co E, 2nd US Cavalry whose mother Johanna > (hey, that is the right name) applied for a pension in Feb 1868. "Hokey > smoke", I think. "Was the 2nd Cav in the CW? Yes. What did they do > next? Went West to fight Indians. And Feb '68 would be about the right > time for a pension application on someone dying in May '67." With so > much fitting the puzzle, and a price increase to beat, I wasted no time > in requesting the form from NARA, filling it out, and sending it in. > > Tried to get a jump on things by renting the US Army enlistment registry > films from Heritage Quest, but the films weren't in the greatest shape > and I didn't find PK this go round. > > About 6 months later, the package from NARA finally arrived. Opened it > up, saw that the death date matched and that my g-gdad Dennis had > provided a supporting affidavit - yes, this is my Patrick. > > As it turns out, though, the CW part is folklore. Patrick arrived in > the US in 1864 and was a tailor in Boston when he enlisted in Dec 1866. > He was killed "by the Indians" (probably Red Cloud's Sioux) near > Bridger's Ferry in what is now Wyoming "while enroute to join his > company" (gee, sounds like he was still only on his way out there). > Service-wise, the only other things in the pension file was Patrick > hadn't ever been paid (Johanna got the backpay, minus what was due the > laundress) and that for some reason, the surgeon at Ft Laramie didn't > seem to have a record of him being killed. This slowed down the > verification process. > > Genie-wise, though, the file was a god-send. I'd known nothing about > Patrick before, and now I had his year of immigration, his residence and > civilian occupation. I found out how old Johanna was in 1868 so now had > an approximate year of birth, that she had come to the US, and was > living in Chelsea MA. Her husband John had died 20 years before (1848 - > did the Famine have anything to do with it?) and she had never > remarried. She was dropped from the rolls in 1883 due to not picking up > the pension for the past 3 years, so appears the Johanna listed in the > Bible as having died in 1880 is her. Along with Dennis, a Patrick > Cavanaugh of Boston provided an affidavit; a Mary C. is listed in the > Bible - could be Mary is Johanna's daughter and Pat C is her husband. > Still don't have a townland, though; the file only made reference to Co > Kerry, and I already knew that's where the Kellehers were from. > > Mention was made that Pat had been sending money home to Ireland to > support his mother and pay her passage. Sounds like the family was > engaged in the practice of coming over a little at a time (Dennis > arrived in 1862), with the early arrivals working to bring the rest of > the family over. I understand this was very common. > > With an enlistment date, I rented the film from HeritageQuest again and > this time I managed to find Pat. Murphy's Law was at play here: while > the top of the page was crystal clear, the bottom where Pat was listed > was anything but. Pat's name was all but faded out, and most of the > rest was decipherable because I now knew what I expected it to be > saying. Pat was 21 when he enlisted and was a bit on the short side > (5'5") with light hair and gray eyes. > > I've only just begun finding out what happened to Pat. I've learned > that another EM was killed in the same action, but so far haven't found > where he was buried. I have read that sometimes soldiers were buried in > the field and all trace of the grave obliterated to prevent mutilation, > so I might never find out. > > After reading the file, it occurred to me that, back in '75 while being > transferred to Alaska, we drove by the area where Patrick was killed and > possibly was buried. I now wish I had known about him then. > > Dennis > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > To review past messages, visit the list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >
Thought it would be nice to take a departure from queries and talk about what we had found out about our CW-era ancestors, as well as to just how we discovered them. Like it is for many others, the b/m/d listings in the family Bible (originally owned by my g-grandfather, Dennis Kelleher) was one of my initial source of information - in this case for my Kelleher line. Many of the names and dates, however, are from long before my mother's time, and so she either didn't know them or her knowledge is sketchy at best. The first person listed is Patrick Kelleher, died 23 May 1867. My mother said she'd been told "he was in the Civil War and then went West to fight Indians" but didn't remember any details or from whom she'd heard it, or even if it was true or not. Her sister recalled the same story, so I felt it was worth checking out. I first tried looking him up a couple years ago at the ACW Research and Genealogy Database ( http://www.civilwardata.com ). There were several PKs listed, some of whom I could easily discard, such as the 45 year old (probably the wrong generation) and the guy who deserted (not likely to show his face at another army post), but a shotgun approach for the rest would run $50 with no guarantees, so that was out. (One of the shortcomings with almost the muster databases is they haven't uploaded records for US Regular Army soldiers yet.) Then last August, not really expecting success, I tried http://www.ancestry.com for their Union Army pension index. And here was a Patrick Kelleher of Co E, 2nd US Cavalry whose mother Johanna (hey, that is the right name) applied for a pension in Feb 1868. "Hokey smoke", I think. "Was the 2nd Cav in the CW? Yes. What did they do next? Went West to fight Indians. And Feb '68 would be about the right time for a pension application on someone dying in May '67." With so much fitting the puzzle, and a price increase to beat, I wasted no time in requesting the form from NARA, filling it out, and sending it in. Tried to get a jump on things by renting the US Army enlistment registry films from Heritage Quest, but the films weren't in the greatest shape and I didn't find PK this go round. About 6 months later, the package from NARA finally arrived. Opened it up, saw that the death date matched and that my g-gdad Dennis had provided a supporting affidavit - yes, this is my Patrick. As it turns out, though, the CW part is folklore. Patrick arrived in the US in 1864 and was a tailor in Boston when he enlisted in Dec 1866. He was killed "by the Indians" (probably Red Cloud's Sioux) near Bridger's Ferry in what is now Wyoming "while enroute to join his company" (gee, sounds like he was still only on his way out there). Service-wise, the only other things in the pension file was Patrick hadn't ever been paid (Johanna got the backpay, minus what was due the laundress) and that for some reason, the surgeon at Ft Laramie didn't seem to have a record of him being killed. This slowed down the verification process. Genie-wise, though, the file was a god-send. I'd known nothing about Patrick before, and now I had his year of immigration, his residence and civilian occupation. I found out how old Johanna was in 1868 so now had an approximate year of birth, that she had come to the US, and was living in Chelsea MA. Her husband John had died 20 years before (1848 - did the Famine have anything to do with it?) and she had never remarried. She was dropped from the rolls in 1883 due to not picking up the pension for the past 3 years, so appears the Johanna listed in the Bible as having died in 1880 is her. Along with Dennis, a Patrick Cavanaugh of Boston provided an affidavit; a Mary C. is listed in the Bible - could be Mary is Johanna's daughter and Pat C is her husband. Still don't have a townland, though; the file only made reference to Co Kerry, and I already knew that's where the Kellehers were from. Mention was made that Pat had been sending money home to Ireland to support his mother and pay her passage. Sounds like the family was engaged in the practice of coming over a little at a time (Dennis arrived in 1862), with the early arrivals working to bring the rest of the family over. I understand this was very common. With an enlistment date, I rented the film from HeritageQuest again and this time I managed to find Pat. Murphy's Law was at play here: while the top of the page was crystal clear, the bottom where Pat was listed was anything but. Pat's name was all but faded out, and most of the rest was decipherable because I now knew what I expected it to be saying. Pat was 21 when he enlisted and was a bit on the short side (5'5") with light hair and gray eyes. I've only just begun finding out what happened to Pat. I've learned that another EM was killed in the same action, but so far haven't found where he was buried. I have read that sometimes soldiers were buried in the field and all trace of the grave obliterated to prevent mutilation, so I might never find out. After reading the file, it occurred to me that, back in '75 while being transferred to Alaska, we drove by the area where Patrick was killed and possibly was buried. I now wish I had known about him then. Dennis
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