What would you like to know about Grant? As National Registrar for Presidential Families of America, I have quite a collection of vitae on our Presidents. Possibly I could illimuminate a tiny bit. My ancestral cousin, Archibald Willard, painted the great painting, "Yankee Doodle Dandy" Later and currently known as "Spirit of 76". The flutist in the painting is another cousin, Hugh Mosher of Wellington , Ohio. During the Philadelphia Exposition in the late l800s (no time to look up the exact date, someone poked a hole in the canvas. Willard took it behind "stage", and was repairing it under a light, when he heard a slight cough and "Good job, Son", He turned to find U.S.Grant standing before him. Mosher, Willard's father and another man returned from the Civil War and were dancing in the streets and cavorting, when Willard decided to put them in costume and paint Yankee Doodle Dandy His father is the gentleman in the middle playing the drum. Joan Keller

How To Make Fadas While holding down the ALT key and using the number keys to the far right of your keyboard, type as follows: 0225 for á 0233 for é 0237 for í 0243 for ó 0250 for ú 0193 for Á 0201 for É 0205 for Í 0211 for Ó 0218 for Ú > -----Original Message----- > From: McNulty, Eamonn [SMTP:Eamonn.McNulty@health.wa.gov.au] > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:34 AM > To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] Summation: U.S. Grant and Matthew Brady. > > A chairde, > > Summing up the combined wisdom of the Irish Civil War Group regarding the > ethnicity of Grant and Brady we find that: > > US Grant considered himself thoroughly American, though we know his great > grandfather was John Simpson, born at Dergina Co. Tyrone in 1738. > > Matthew Brady said he was American too, though one source claims him as an > Eireannach (Irishman). We appear to have nothing tangible on his parents > but > with a name like Brady (O' Bradaigh) his paternal ancestry can't be > anything but Irish. Personally I'm a bit dissappointed that we don't have > more on this fascinating character, who was responsible for the recording > of > such a rich pictorial archive at immense personal expense. Is mo/r a > truaigh > (It's agreat shame). > > Many thanks to all who took part, > > Is mise le meas, > > E/amonn Mac an Ultaigh. > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, type a message with only the word > unsubscribe > in the text and mailto:CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

http://www.civilwar.org/endangeredbattlefields.htm Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Hello Listers. I just received the Civil War Service File for my gg grandfather, John H. Cooley, who served as a Private with Company G of the 62nd NY Infantry (I previously sent for a pension file and was told that none is available). I am very confused by what I received. The file consisted of 35 Company Muster Roll, Regimental Return and Hospital Muster Roll cards. John Cooley was apparently wounded and sent to the U.S.A. General Hospital at David's Island, New York Harbor on July 2, 1862. He spent two and a half months there and the last of three Hospital Muster Roll cards says that he "deserted from Gen'l Hosp, D.I., NY - Sept. 21, 1862". His Company Muster Roll cards continue to say that he was sick or wounded in the hospital, for the whole term of his enlistment and he is mustered out on June 24, 1864 (21 months later!). Under "Remarks" on a Co. Muster-out Roll card dated "Fort Schuyler, NYH, Aug 30, 1865" he is listed as "deserted". In addition, there is a Casualty Sheet that lists the Nature of Casualty as "Deserted" and Date of Discharge, Death etc. as Sept 21, 1862. I have several questions: 1. Did John Cooley just walk out of the hospital and desert the Army? 2. Did his Company just assume he was still recuperating in the hospital and continue to fill Muster Rolls accordingly? 3. The Casualty Sheet lists the source of information as "Roll 3. David's Island Hospital". What are those records and are they still available? 4. Where can I find additional information about the hospital on David's Island? My apologies for such a long post and thanks to all for your kind indulgence and assistance. Bob Meany

Eamonn, Nay, teach all of us "The Irish". Slainte is tainte! Bob DALY Baltimore ----- Original Message ----- From: <Staleygeni@aol.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] U.S. Grant & Matthew Brady > Eamonn: I am the National Registrar for Presidential Families Of America. > Given a day or so, I will look up all of the Presidents who descend from > Ireland ancestors. I have NINE Presidential cousins, Taft,Harding,Coolidge, > Hoover, Pierce, Nixon, Ford,Bush and Bush. my pleasure! Just teach me g > aelic. > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > "Faugh a Ballaugh!" (A period rendering of Fag an Bealach (Clear the > Way!)) Irish Battle Cry > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ---------------------------------------------------- NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97

Accprdomg to the latest issue of "Ancestors of American Presidents" written and compiled by the finest genealogist in this country, Gary Boyd Roberts, there is no proof of any name for Rachel Kelley's parentage. She was known before marriage as "Mrs RACHEL MILLER KELLEY, IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT HER MAIDEN NAME WAS MILLER AND SHE MARRIED A KELLEY FIRST. jOAN kELLER - His only Irish ancestor, notwithstanding is the SIMPSON LINEAGE.

I am looking for the Surnames of "BLOUNT" and "LING" any information would be appreciated.

Diane Tempest wrote: > > I am looking for George and Charles Skellern whose parents were in NY in > 1850 george was in the 4th artillery at the age of 16 as a musian for 5 > years I do not know if this included the civil war ----------------------------- George's enlistment for 5 yrs sounds like he was Regular Army, which would make it the 4th US Artillery. Do you know what battery he might have been assigned to? The various batteries of a Regular artillery regiment were scattered around. ----------------------------- > Charley enlisted for two engagments and was discharged then joined the > 37th N7th invalid corp. ----------------------------- Charles was in Company D of the 37th NY (Irish Rifles) from 29 May to 2 Sep 1862. The 37th was assigned to the 3rd Brigade, 3rd Division, III Corps, Army of the Potomac to July 1862, then assigned to the 3rd Brigade, 1st Division of the III Corps. For most of his service time, the 37th was participating in the Seven Days Battles near Richmond VA. Possible battles he was in were Oak Grove (25 Jun), Glendale (30 Jun), Malvern Hill (1 Jul). After that, the Army was encamped at Harrison's Landing VA until 16 Aug. Besides the fighting, this wasn't the healthiest place to be, and a _lot_ of soldiers got sick. From there, the 37th was sent to help out in Pope's campaign, but by this time it would seem that whatever caused Charles to get sent home for discharge must have already happened. Have you requested their service records from the National Archives yet? Looks like you have the minimum necessary (name, state from which served, war, Union vs Confederate). Details are at http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/civilwar.html Cost is $17 per soldier record, but you're charged only if they find it. It takes a very long time to hear back, but it's worth it. Dennis

A Chairde, I came across a web page recently that claimed that both U.S. Grant and Matthew Brady were Irish --or of Irish ancestry. Does anyone know their family backgrounds. Eamonn.

"McNulty, Eamonn" wrote: > > A Chairde, > I came across a web page recently that claimed that both U.S. Grant and > Matthew Brady were Irish --or of Irish ancestry. Does anyone know their > family backgrounds. ---------------------- The Irish connection for Grant is his mother's (Hannah Simpson) grandfather John Simpson. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/presidents/prez18.htm He's believed to be from a county in Ulster. According to US Grant III, Grant's paternal grandmother Rachel Kelley was the daughter of a Colonel Miller. Don't know where the Kelley comes in; maybe she was the widow of a Kelley when she married Noah Grant. Brady is a mystery. According to James D. Horan: "Francis Trevelyan Miller* put Brady's birthplace as Cork, Ireland, but Brady, in a newspaper interview, claimed Warren County, New York, and put the year as 'about 1823-24'. We know nothing about his parents, who were believed to be Irish immigrants. On Brady's death certificate their names are listed as Andrew and Julia and their birthplaces as the United States." (From "Mathew Brady: Historian with a Camera", Bonanza Books, New York, 1955.) *Francis T. Miller edited and wrote "Photographic History of the Civil War" (1912) BTW, Brady's eyesight was horrible by the time the Civil War rolled around, and most of the photographs with his label were actually taken by the others in his employ, among whom was another Irish American named Timothy O'Sullivan. Dennis

Eamonn: I am the National Registrar for Presidential Families Of America. Given a day or so, I will look up all of the Presidents who descend from Ireland ancestors. I have NINE Presidential cousins, Taft,Harding,Coolidge, Hoover, Pierce, Nixon, Ford,Bush and Bush. my pleasure! Just teach me g aelic.

Ulysses Simpson Grant originally Hiram Ulyssses Grant, born Point Pleasant, Ohio 27 April l822. d.l885 Father: Jesse Root Grant, b. Pa. Mother : Hannah Simpson, b. Pa. Grandfather: Noah Grant III b. Con n. Grandmother: Rachel Kelley b. Ohio Maternal Grandparents: John Simpson Jr b. TateOhio Rebecca Weir Paternal Great Grandparents ; Noah Grant Jr b. Conn Susanna Delano b.Conn. Maternal Great Grandparents: John Simpson b. Northern Ireland c.l738 d. l804 Philadelphia Wife Hannah Roberts b. Doylestown,Pa. Slainte! I think - Smile! jek

Ulysses Simpson Grant's father was Jessie Root Grant. The Grant family were from England although there may have been a female Irish in there somewhere. Jessie's wife Hannah Simpson's father was John Simpson. John's father, John Simpson, was born in 1738 in Dergina, Ballygawley, County Tyrone, Ireland. I don't have info on Brady but probability is high that is an Irish name. Mike

Ulysses Simpson Grant was Irish son of an Ohio. merchant and so was Matthew Brady Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "McNulty, Eamonn" <Eamonn.McNulty@health.wa.gov.au> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] U.S. Grant & Matthew Brady > A Chairde, > I came across a web page recently that claimed that both U.S. Grant and > Matthew Brady were Irish --or of Irish ancestry. Does anyone know their > family backgrounds. > > Eamonn. > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR-IRISH Mailing List ==== > "Remember Ireland and Fontenoy!" > Irish War Cry > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "McNulty, Eamonn" <Eamonn.McNulty@health.wa.gov.au> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 12:08 AM Subject: [Civil-War-Irish] U.S. Grant & Matthew Brady > A Chairde, > I came across a web page recently that claimed that both U.S. Grant and > Matthew Brady were Irish --or of Irish ancestry. Does anyone know their > family backgrounds. > > Eamonn. > Ulysses Grant Memoirs http://home.nycap.rr.com/history/grant.html Desoto Joe/The Record Man

Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:48:03 +0100 From: "Diane Tempest" <Diane.Queen@tesco.net> I am looking for George and Charles Skellern whose parents were in NY in 1850 george was in the 4th artillery at the age of 16 as a musian for 5 years I do not know if this included the civil war Charley enlisted for two engagments and was discharged then joined the 37th N7th invalid corp. Parents were born in Dublin.I got this from an old letter sent to england to his brother. Thanks if you know anything Diane.

Subject: [Fwd: {not a subscriber} Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Faces] Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:58:03 -0600 From: "The Nolans" <rjnolan@eircom.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> There are obviously regional variations on pronuciations and/or spellings, even on the relatively small island of Ireland! A case in point is the Irish for 'I will get' - spelt 'Gheobhaidh me' (the 'e' of me with a fada) it is pronounced (literally) 'yeowig may' in Leinster but 'yeowee may' in Connaught. How this may be pronounced in Ulster Irish I'm not certain. But such an example goes to show the differences in pronunciations in the Irish language depending on where you either spoke it growing up or who it was that taught you as a child (a teacher from Donegal or Kerry!). Our own kids are taught the Leinster version of Irish in their local school here in Dublin. My good wife, who hails from County Sligo in Connaught, often expresses surprise at the pronunciations of various Irish phrases brought home from school by the girls. Many a debate rages in our household over which pronunciation is the more correct. Full credence, surely, can be given to all pronunciations of the phrase 'Faugh an Bealach', The general import of the cry would have had a unifying effect on the mass of soldiery in the various brigades. Funny old language! Funny old country! Regards Bob Nolan ----- Original Message ----- From: McNulty, Eamonn <Eamonn.McNulty@health.wa.gov.au> To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:43 AM Subject: RE: [Fwd: {not a subscriber} Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Faces] > > A chairde, > > Mike Ruddy has stolen my thunder! > > Of course languages have regional variations. > > So as an Ulsterman that learned his gaelic in > the Donegal gealteachts I am forced to disagree > with Bob Nolan's pronounciation. I'm sorry Bob > neither Dineen or I would agree with your > spelling either. > > I was glad to see my comments uncovered some > of J.B. O'Rielly's poetry. > > J.B. is well known here for his escape from > the Fremantle prison colony, he went on to > promote the escape of seven of his comrades, > which was organised and financed by Irish > American sympathisers. > > JB O' Rielly's pub is well worth a visit if > anyone makes it to Western Australia. > > Is Mise le meas, > > Eamonn > > > > > > Eamon, I sent a reply to another query on the same Irish battlecry. Might > you agree with what follows?! > > "Is this the cry 'Faugh an Ballagh' that you enquire about? Thomas Francis > Meagher's Irish Brigade are known to have made much use of this call. > Pronounced literally, 'Fog on Balok', it means, 'Get out of the way' or more > simply 'OUT OF THE WAY'! > > The correct spelling of 'Faugh' is 'Fhag' (pronounced the same as above), > whilst the correct spelling for 'Ballagh' is 'Bealach'. > > Regards > > Bob Nolan > Dublin, Ireland." > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: McNulty, Eamonn <Eamonn.McNulty@health.wa.gov.au> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:39 AM > Subject: RE: [Civil-War-Irish] Faces > > > > A cairde > > > > "Riam nar druid ar sbarin lann" > > > > More literally might be translated as > > > > "Ever don't close on loaded spears" I don't claim to be a Gaelic expert.I > > cant find it in Rev. Patrick Dineen's dictionary circa 1920- the > definitive > > dictionary of the Irish language. > > > > "Never Retreat From a Clash of Spears" has a much nicer ring to my ear at > > least. > > > > Interestingly Dineen gives "Fag (fada on the a) an Bealach" simply as > clear > > the way. I pefer your spelling as it predates Dineen by some 60 years and > is > > probably more authentic in portraying the actual battle cry used by the > > Irish Americans. > > > > Is mise le meas > > > > Eamonn mac an Ultaigh > > > > Eamonn McNulty.(Western Australia) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: RUDDYsTN > > To: CIVIL-WAR-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: 7/8/01 7:20 AM > > Subject: Re: [Civil-War-Irish] Faces > > > > > > >I once s aw the Irish Battle Cry given on this forum, does anyone have > > it. > > >There are a couple of you who speak gaelic, I would love it for an > > Irish > > >friend. Joanm Keller > > > > On the flag of the Irish Brigade it says: > > "Riam nar druid o sbarin lann." Literally: "ever that-not [never] > > drawing > > back from conflict of spears or "Never Retreat From a Clash of Spears" > > > > Another from I belive a Pennsylvania Regiment: > > "Faugh a Ballagh" or something similar meaning as I remember it: > > "Through > > the Breech"

http://www.thewildgeese.com/ > Huntington, Tenn.-based Civil War Interactive > <http://www.CivilWarInteractive.com> and New York-based The Wild Geese > Today <http://www.TheWildGeese.com> will present the history of the > battle, which Southerners named the Battle of First Manassas and > Northerners the First Battle of Bull Run. The centerpiece of their > coverage, though, will be the Aug. 3-5 140th anniversary reenactment of > the combat, in Leesburg, Va. > > As part of its Web-based feature, titled "'You Have Got Your Chance at > Last': The Irish at First Manassas," the Web sites will present > from-the-scene coverage of the event, expected to draw more than 10,000 > reenactors from around the world to a 400-acre farm 25 miles from the > actual battlefield. In addition, ...the Web sites will offer...profiles > and features on the Irish in America at the Civil War's outbreak, > including a bibliography and related Internet links.

Subject: CO K 1ST Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:59:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Ronnie Ranew <celt@sowega.net> GORDON'S COMPANY ENLISTED 8 JULY 1861, THUNDERBOLT BATTERY JOHN KELLY- PVT. READ'S COMPANY, 1ST GA. INF. OLMSTEADS ENLISTED 23 SEPTEMBER, CAMP MERCER JOHN KELLY- PVT. CO. E "IRISH VOLUNTEERS" 1ST GA. INF. OLMSTEADS ENLISTED 20 SEPTEMBER 1861, SAVANNAH ON ROLL UNTIL APRIL 1864; ON PROVOST DUTY IN SAVANNAH.

Dennis Excellent recommendation. I went to bookfinder.com and immediately found a copy which I ordered based on your delightful write-up. Mike