I would like to Thank everyone who has helped me with this Uncle Jack and his uniform I am starting to think it is John Wakelin who was born in Lincoln , England , and this is clearing a few more things for me also , as to how and why the picture came to Australia , as I havent found my greatgrandmother arriveing , I now think she arrived with John and his picture and the lovely English china ..........Oh this is getting interesting Keith we have had another look at the picture .......... and no Ostrich plume in hat the hat looks to be flat top , broad brim , similar to the gondolier , the white ribbon appears to hang from the back of the hat it looks as though his arm is resting on " we think similar to a umbrella stand " his hat is on the top shelf while he has his hand resting on second shelf , closer look at his hand it may be what we call a " baton " ,for twirling in marching bands ..... and definetly no other markings except the word Lincoln on the shoulder apalet , his moustache is a very straight inverted V , and his hair is such a straight part right down the middle Thank you List Debbie Debbie @ dodo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003