Hi, Sharon, Richard, and list -- Thanks again for the suggestions on my are-they-or-aren't-they Civil War ancestors (see earlier e-mails, appended). I've done some preliminary checking online and have had no obvious luck, so I humbly turn the details over to you (with apologies for the long message). The three brothers I'm looking for are named Stone -- James (b. ca. 1840), Patrick (ca. 1842), and William (ca. 1844). They were born in Ireland; no specifics on that, but the Stone name has very specific origins in Ireland and comes from the area of Inishmulclohy, County Sligo. (The original name is O'Maolchloiche, closer to Muckley or O'Mulclohy, but I don't know whether they ever were known by that name. They also may have been of a displaced group; one possibility for their origin is County Mayo.) Patrick arrived through New York in 1860, so my working assumption is that his brothers were with him. All three disappear -- this is why I'm investigating Civil War involvement -- until 1867, when Patrick petitioned for citizenship in Philadelphia. In later life, William and James were mainly carpenters, laborers, and mechanics; Patrick held these jobs and also sold liquors and ran a hotel. All three are buried in Philadelphia with, as far as I know, no military pomp. The National Parks site lists three Patrick Stone: Stone, Patrick, Union, 15th Regiment, Maine Infantry (per Ancestry, Company I) Stone, Patrick, Confederate, Martin's Regiment, Texas Cavalry (5th Partisan Rangers) (per Ancestry, Company E) Stone, Patrick L., Union, 6th Regiment, Tennessee Mounted Infantry (not listed on Ancestry) James listings are more numerous and William more numerous still, but none seem to match these three regiments. I have no knowledge of my Patrick's having been in Maine, Texas, or Tennessee, but I guess anything's possible. I'd appreciate any further insight! Best of luck to all of you -- Pat --------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:16:17 -0700 From: "callard" <callard@surfside.net> Subject: RE: [CIVIL-WAR] Advice?: Getting started/Finding an ancestor FIRST get everything that you know about them. FULL NAMES, Place of birth, Date of Birth, Where they settled AFTER THE CIVIL WAR. WHERE WERE THEY BURIED did they have a Military Headstone - might give regiment. You have a starting point NEW YORK CITY. IT WILL NOT BE EASY. GO TO http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ This is where you will enter the NAMES and the state of NEW YORK. If the NAMES were common names there will be a lot. Well, we have narrowed it down a bit. You will now have the whether UNION or CONFEDERATE, Infantry / Cavalry / Artillery and Regrement or unit. NOW you want to get the right people. Click on the Regrement or unit and you will find where the person was mustered into the unit. NEW YORK ? All others out. NOW GO TO http://www.cyndislist.com/ Go TO Military Resources Worldwide GO TO US - Civil War ~ War of Southern Independence (BULL, Southern Sensibilities - CIVIL WAR!!) You are going to get an education on this area. GOOD LUCK, Richard Callard ----------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:15:09 -0400 From: "Sharon Workman" <workman@dreamscape.com> Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Advice?: Getting started/Finding an ancestor Patrick, What were their names? There are quick places to search, but the best one I use is for a fee, which I pay each year. It's worth it to me, who is constantly searching, but probably not to you. We enjoy look-ups. Sharon ----------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:44:42 -0400 From: "Patrick Stone" <pstone8@msn.com> To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV60sBk31TZ14000271ae@hotmail.com> Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Advice?: Getting started/Finding an ancestor Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, everyone -- I was watching *Gangs of New York* a moment ago -- paused for genealogy! -- and was surprised by the zeal with which recent immigrants were pressed into Union service. Something clicked: An ancestor of mine arrived in New York in 1860 with two brothers but then disappears until 1867, when all three turn up in Philadelphia. I have to wonder, as he would have been between 19 and 21 in 1861 and very poor. I know nothing of Civil War research, so I'll appreciate any advice. Many thanks! PatGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Pat, Although I can't verify the Company or Regiment for the Union soldiers you list, I can however verify the one Confederate soldier. I have checked the Confederate Roster which I have on CD (not ancestry.com) and found: Stone, Patrick - Texas Cavalry, Martin's Regiment, Co E Edward

I am sorry, but I am tied up for the next 3 weeks. I told you that it would be a time consuming task. Stone, James has 33 names in New York. Stone, Patrick has 2 names 15th Reg. Maine Infantry & 5th Reg. Tennessee Mounted Infantry. Stone, William has 34 names in New York. By using the Link that I provided GO TO http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ This is where you will enter the NAMES and the state of NEW YORK. It will take you time to narrow down those enlisted in New York, NOT Elsewhere! This is a step by step process. You may not get all 3 together SETTLE for 2? Sorry, This is something you must do yourself, You have a long and tiresome work, BUT, if you find what you want it is worth it. Even if you do not you will learn a lot and that is a plus. I have given you the information as how to do it. Good Luck Richard Callard -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Stone [mailto:pstone8@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:45 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: Advice?: Getting Started (Sharon and Richard) Hi, Sharon, Richard, and list -- Thanks again for the suggestions on my are-they-or-aren't-they Civil War ancestors (see earlier e-mails, appended). I've done some preliminary checking online and have had no obvious luck, so I humbly turn the details over to you (with apologies for the long message). The three brothers I'm looking for are named Stone -- James (b. ca. 1840), Patrick (ca. 1842), and William (ca. 1844). They were born in Ireland; no specifics on that, but the Stone name has very specific origins in Ireland and comes from the area of Inishmulclohy, County Sligo. (The original name is O'Maolchloiche, closer to Muckley or O'Mulclohy, but I don't know whether they ever were known by that name. They also may have been of a displaced group; one possibility for their origin is County Mayo.) Patrick arrived through New York in 1860, so my working assumption is that his brothers were with him. All three disappear -- this is why I'm investigating Civil War involvement -- until 1867, when Patrick petitioned for citizenship in Philadelphia. In later life, William and James were mainly carpenters, laborers, and mechanics; Patrick held these jobs and also sold liquors and ran a hotel. All three are buried in Philadelphia with, as far as I know, no military pomp. The National Parks site lists three Patrick Stone: Stone, Patrick, Union, 15th Regiment, Maine Infantry (per Ancestry, Company I) Stone, Patrick, Confederate, Martin's Regiment, Texas Cavalry (5th Partisan Rangers) (per Ancestry, Company E) Stone, Patrick L., Union, 6th Regiment, Tennessee Mounted Infantry (not listed on Ancestry) James listings are more numerous and William more numerous still, but none seem to match these three regiments. I have no knowledge of my Patrick's having been in Maine, Texas, or Tennessee, but I guess anything's possible. I'd appreciate any further insight! Best of luck to all of you -- Pat --------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:16:17 -0700 From: "callard" <callard@surfside.net> Subject: RE: [CIVIL-WAR] Advice?: Getting started/Finding an ancestor FIRST get everything that you know about them. FULL NAMES, Place of birth, Date of Birth, Where they settled AFTER THE CIVIL WAR. WHERE WERE THEY BURIED did they have a Military Headstone - might give regiment. You have a starting point NEW YORK CITY. IT WILL NOT BE EASY. GO TO http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ This is where you will enter the NAMES and the state of NEW YORK. If the NAMES were common names there will be a lot. Well, we have narrowed it down a bit. You will now have the whether UNION or CONFEDERATE, Infantry / Cavalry / Artillery and Regrement or unit. NOW you want to get the right people. Click on the Regrement or unit and you will find where the person was mustered into the unit. NEW YORK ? All others out. NOW GO TO http://www.cyndislist.com/ Go TO Military Resources Worldwide GO TO US - Civil War ~ War of Southern Independence (BULL, Southern Sensibilities - CIVIL WAR!!) You are going to get an education on this area. GOOD LUCK, Richard Callard ----------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 19:15:09 -0400 From: "Sharon Workman" <workman@dreamscape.com> Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Advice?: Getting started/Finding an ancestor Patrick, What were their names? There are quick places to search, but the best one I use is for a fee, which I pay each year. It's worth it to me, who is constantly searching, but probably not to you. We enjoy look-ups. Sharon ----------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:44:42 -0400 From: "Patrick Stone" <pstone8@msn.com> To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV60sBk31TZ14000271ae@hotmail.com> Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Advice?: Getting started/Finding an ancestor Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, everyone -- I was watching *Gangs of New York* a moment ago -- paused for genealogy! -- and was surprised by the zeal with which recent immigrants were pressed into Union service. Something clicked: An ancestor of mine arrived in New York in 1860 with two brothers but then disappears until 1867, when all three turn up in Philadelphia. I have to wonder, as he would have been between 19 and 21 in 1861 and very poor. I know nothing of Civil War research, so I'll appreciate any advice. Many thanks! PatGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet]