Quit yelling, I am on your side. What I simply stated was no one bidded on it so the individual has been discouraged in selling it. I don't know how he/she got it, but it should be returned to rightful grave site. However, how can we make them do this ? You tell me. Carlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "callard" <callard@surfside.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:13 PM Subject: RE: [CIVIL-WAR] GRAVE MARKER ON e-Bay Item #2194059513 > NO ONE BID ON IT BECAUSE WE ASKED e-Bay TO STOP THE AUCTION, AS > IT IS AN ITEM NOT ALLOWED TO BE SOLD ON e-BAY. > > THAT IS NOT STOPPING THE SALE TO AN INDIVIDUAL. > > THEY SAID THAT IT WAS A "LAWN DECORATION". > > Like the GAR and the CVA Grave Markers are "LAWN DECORATIONS"? > > If this were on your ancestors grave and taken and sold. Would > you be disturbed and outright angry? > > THIS IS A MATTER OF OUT RIGHT GRAVE DESECRATION, AND THERE ARE > LAWS AGAINST IT. > > We are asking for help. Before it is gone. > > Richard Callard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlene M. Wojahn [mailto:cwojahn@countryroadswv.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:51 AM > To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] GRAVE MARKER ON e-Bay Item #2194059513 > > > No one bidded on it > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Your Name" <dstfelix@erinet.com> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:24 AM > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] GRAVE MARKER ON e-Bay Item #2194059513 > > > > Past auctions usually show for at 60 days. > > > > > > > > > > We need help to stop the sale of a GRAVE MARKER on e-Bay. > > > > > > eBay item 2194059513 > > > > > > NOTE THE AUCTION HAS ENDED (Ends Oct-06-03 19:37:15 PDT) - > > Rare > > > Civil War Plaque Cast Iron 32" High Wow! > > > > > > eBay.com Seller List: trueway1@aol.com > > > > > > BUT, THIS IS STILL ON DISPLAY > > > > > > Please go to the site and see for yourself. > > > > > > I have contacted the police in North Bergen, NJ. THIS IS > > SIMPLY > > > GRAVE DESECRATION. > > > > > > It is our hope that this grave marker might be donated to a Civil > > > War Museum until such a time as the Schaefer family as a whole might > > > > be able to conclusively determine where the grave of Captain F. W. > > > Schaefer is located. > > > > > > F.W. Schaefer > > > 3rd New Jersey Cavalry > > > Union > > > Company K > > > Soldier's Rank In: Captain > > > Soldier's Rank Out: Captain > > > Alternate Name: Friedrich Wilhelm Schaefer > > > Film Number: M550, roll 20 > > > > > > The following is a description of his unit and the meaning of the > > > H.V.C. that is on the grave marker: > > > > > > From the following site: > > > http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~jw3u/round/141-150.htm > > > > > > This is the description on that page: > > > > > > H. V. C.--Hancock's Veteran Corps. > > > A Circle Surrounded by a Wreath of Laurel. Wide Red Band Passes > > > Vertically Through the Circle from the Wreath, radiates rays in such > > > > a manner as to form a Heptagon with Concave Sides. > > > Seven hands spring from the Wreath, each grasping a Spear, > > whose > > > heads point the several angles > > > of the Heptagon. The badge adopted originated with Col. C. H. > > > Morgan, Hancock's chief-of-staff. > > > Was approved by Gen. W. S. Hancock in the fall of 1864. > > > > > > General W.S. Hancock bio may be read at the following URL: > > > http://www.civilwarhome.com/hanbio.htm > > > > > > > > > Sherri Schefer Bagby AND Richard Callard > > > Berlindog@aol.com callard@surfside.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email > > > CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the > > > message, type only the word unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CoreComm Webmail. > > http://home.core.com > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

Now, that I have your attention. 1. Contact Detective Crugnola, North Bergen, NJ Police Department. Ask him to impound the GRAVE MARKER and enforce the law against GRAVE DESECRATION. 2. Contact the Seller at trueway1@aol.com suggest that the GRAVE MARKER be placed in a CIVIL WAR Museum until the grave can be located and the GRAVE MARKER be replaced. That for good public relations, they should make no money of this GRAVE MARKER. Should they respond in a positive way and place it in a CIVIL WAR Museum, you might suggest that we will contact the Media in a positive way. Should they take a negative viewpoint and demand money, be assured that we will contact the media in a negative way as far as they are involved. 3. Contact each and every CIVIL WAR SITE and ask their support. Any other suggestions are welcome. Richard Callard -----Original Message----- From: Carlene M. Wojahn [mailto:cwojahn@countryroadswv.com] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:19 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] GRAVE MARKER ON e-Bay Item #2194059513 Quit yelling, I am on your side. What I simply stated was no one bided on it so the individual has been discouraged in selling it. I don't know how he/she got it, but it should be returned to rightful grave site. However, how can we make them do this ? You tell me. Carlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "callard" <callard@surfside.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:13 PM Subject: RE: [CIVIL-WAR] GRAVE MARKER ON e-Bay Item #2194059513 > NO ONE BID ON IT BECAUSE WE ASKED e-Bay TO STOP THE AUCTION, AS IT IS > AN ITEM NOT ALLOWED TO BE SOLD ON e-BAY. > > THAT IS NOT STOPPING THE SALE TO AN INDIVIDUAL. > > THEY SAID THAT IT WAS A "LAWN DECORATION". > > Like the GAR and the CVA Grave Markers are "LAWN DECORATIONS"? > > If this were on your ancestors grave and taken and sold. Would you be > disturbed and outright angry? > > THIS IS A MATTER OF OUT RIGHT GRAVE DESECRATION, AND THERE ARE LAWS > AGAINST IT. > > We are asking for help. Before it is gone. > > Richard Callard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlene M. Wojahn [mailto:cwojahn@countryroadswv.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:51 AM > To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] GRAVE MARKER ON e-Bay Item #2194059513 > > > No one bided on it > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Your Name" <dstfelix@erinet.com> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:24 AM > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] GRAVE MARKER ON e-Bay Item #2194059513 > > > > Past auctions usually show for at 60 days. > > > > > > > > > > We need help to stop the sale of a GRAVE MARKER on e-Bay. > > > > > > eBay item 2194059513 > > > > > > NOTE THE AUCTION HAS ENDED (Ends Oct-06-03 19:37:15 PDT) - > > Rare > > > Civil War Plaque Cast Iron 32" High Wow! > > > > > > eBay.com Seller List: trueway1@aol.com > > > > > > BUT, THIS IS STILL ON DISPLAY > > > > > > Please go to the site and see for yourself. > > > > > > I have contacted the police in North Bergen, NJ. THIS IS > > SIMPLY > > > GRAVE DESECRATION. > > > > > > It is our hope that this grave marker might be donated to a Civil > > > War Museum until such a time as the Schaefer family as a whole > > > might > > > > be able to conclusively determine where the grave of Captain F. W. > > > Schaefer is located. > > > > > > F.W. Schaefer > > > 3rd New Jersey Cavalry > > > Union > > > Company K > > > Soldier's Rank In: Captain > > > Soldier's Rank Out: Captain > > > Alternate Name: Friedrich Wilhelm Schaefer > > > Film Number: M550, roll 20 > > > > > > The following is a description of his unit and the meaning of the > > > H.V.C. that is on the grave marker: > > > > > > From the following site: > > > http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~jw3u/round/141-150.htm > > > > > > This is the description on that page: > > > > > > H. V. C.--Hancock's Veteran Corps. > > > A Circle Surrounded by a Wreath of Laurel. Wide Red Band Passes > > > Vertically Through the Circle from the Wreath, radiates rays in > > > such > > > > a manner as to form a Heptagon with Concave Sides. > > > Seven hands spring from the Wreath, each grasping a Spear, > > whose > > > heads point the several angles > > > of the Heptagon. The badge adopted originated with Col. C. H. > > > Morgan, Hancock's chief-of-staff. Was approved by Gen. W. S. > > > Hancock in the fall of 1864. > > > > > > General W.S. Hancock bio may be read at the following URL: > > > http://www.civilwarhome.com/hanbio.htm > > > > > > > > > Sherri Schefer Bagby AND Richard Callard > > > Berlindog@aol.com callard@surfside.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email > > > CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the > > > message, type only the word unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CoreComm Webmail. > > http://home.core.com > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email > > CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the > > message, type only the word unsubscribe > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet] > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet]