Hello Mike: I am gonna have to read these posts all at one time instead of when they've been posted - grin. > The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the > Confederate Army that fought in > the western areas during the war (between the > Appalachians and Mississippi). But nothing North. No states after the Mason-Dixon line? Just below that line? Got it! > And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal > unit which fought in the > Western Theater. Now this is where I am always confused - the word "Theater". I'm not that well versed on WW2 but because of my dealings in the South Pacific I'd had to learn the WW2 Pacific theater and now the Western theater? All my mind is capable of seeing is a movie theater every time I hear/see those words. Puhleese elaborate. <GRIN> --Manaia ++++ --- NPeters102@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/23/2008 10:24:36 A.M. Eastern > Daylight Time, > eharding2@suddenlink.net writes: > > The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the > Confederate Army that fought in > the western areas during the war (between the > Appalachians and Mississippi). > > And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal > unit which fought in the > Western Theater. > > Respectfully, > > Mike Peters > npeters102@aol.com

Manaia There is good reason to be confused and even those of us who have spent years studying the war get confused from time to time, for instance, both the North (Union, Federal, USA, Blue) and the South (Confederate, CSA, Grey, Butternut) had an Army of Tennessee and both also had a Department of Tennessee. Army Corps describes a group of several divisions under one General. And Army describes a group of Army Corps under one General. Theater of operation generally describes the area in which various Armies operated and Department describes the area of assignment of several Armies. There was a lot of shifting around of Armies back and forth between commands depending on where the needs were the greatest and therefore an Army fighting in one Department could be moved to another and so on down to Brigade level. Infantry Regiments for the most part remained fixed in size and command, however Cavalry and Artillery many times had Companies split off and loaned or transferred to different Brigades or Divisions. Any Department could be enlarged or reduced and Armies could be added or removed so the designations held at one time could change with military requirements. The Department designation was only relatively representative of the area in which the Department was located. The Union Army of the Tennessee was formed in October of 1862 and was commanded by US Grant until 1863 then General Sherman until March 1864, then James McPherson until he was killed July 1864. Gens Logan and Howard commanded alternately until the end Aug 1865. This Army consisted of the XIII, XV, XVI, and XVII Army Corps. The Confederate Army of Tennessee was formed in Nov 1862 under Braxton Bragg. In Dec of 1863 the command shifted to General Johnston and in July of 1864 command was taken from Johnston and given to General John Bell Hood who commanded until Jan 1865 when Gen Taylor took over and Feb when the command was returned to Johnston who surrendered the army in April of 1865. There are two good books to read that will help immensely with understanding the war. Shelby Foote's Trilogy and Mark Boatner's The Civil War Dictionary. The Trilogy is huge but is as good as any for understanding the military and civilian aspect of the Civil War. The Civil War Dictionary allows one to look up specifics like "the Army of The Cumberland" etc.... By the way the Army of the Cumberland (Union) fought in Tennessee also... And by all means keep asking questions on the list because many on this list have significant resources to guide them in their answers. Mike Manaia Alofa wrote: > Hello Mike: > > I am gonna have to read these posts all at one time > instead of when they've been posted - grin. > > >> The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the >> Confederate Army that fought in >> the western areas during the war (between the >> Appalachians and Mississippi). >> > > But nothing North. No states after the Mason-Dixon > line? Just below that line? Got it! > > >> And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal >> unit which fought in the >> Western Theater. >> > > Now this is where I am always confused - the word > "Theater". I'm not that well versed on WW2 but because > of my dealings in the South Pacific I'd had to learn > the WW2 Pacific theater and now the Western theater? > All my mind is capable of seeing is a movie theater > every time I hear/see those words. > > Puhleese elaborate. > > <GRIN> > --Manaia > > ++++ > > --- NPeters102@aol.com wrote: > > >> In a message dated 5/23/2008 10:24:36 A.M. Eastern >> Daylight Time, >> eharding2@suddenlink.net writes: >> >> The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the >> Confederate Army that fought in >> the western areas during the war (between the >> Appalachians and Mississippi). >> >> And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal >> unit which fought in the >> Western Theater. >> >> Respectfully, >> >> Mike Peters >> npeters102@aol.com >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Mike: "I had to ask, didn't I?" And now more new phrases/word? Butternut? You know these days you surely deserve a behind-whooping for that word. Department of Tennessee? What is that - to house the Army of Tennessee? Okay, I am familiar with the proper names but when you add the modifiers/adjectives I am now totally lost! But I will do more research only because I wish to converse with you - grin. Remember: research! -Manaia ++++ --- Mike Ruddy <mpruddy@gmail.com> wrote: > Manaia > There is good reason to be confused and even those > of us who have spent > years studying the war get confused from time to > time, for instance, > both the North (Union, Federal, USA, Blue) and the > South (Confederate, > CSA, Grey, Butternut) had an Army of Tennessee and > both also had a > Department of Tennessee. > > Army Corps describes a group of several divisions > under one General. And > Army describes a group of Army Corps under one > General. Theater of > operation generally describes the area in which > various Armies operated > and Department describes the area of assignment of > several Armies. > There was a lot of shifting around of Armies back > and forth between > commands depending on where the needs were the > greatest and therefore an > Army fighting in one Department could be moved to > another and so on down > to Brigade level. Infantry Regiments for the most > part remained fixed in > size and command, however Cavalry and Artillery many > times had Companies > split off and loaned or transferred to different > Brigades or Divisions. > Any Department could be enlarged or reduced and > Armies could be added or > removed so the designations held at one time could > change with military > requirements. The Department designation was only > relatively > representative of the area in which the Department > was located. > > The Union Army of the Tennessee was formed in > October of 1862 and was > commanded by US Grant until 1863 then General > Sherman until March 1864, > then James McPherson until he was killed July 1864. > Gens Logan and > Howard commanded alternately until the end Aug 1865. > This Army consisted > of the XIII, XV, XVI, and XVII Army Corps. > > The Confederate Army of Tennessee was formed in Nov > 1862 under Braxton > Bragg. In Dec of 1863 the command shifted to General > Johnston and in > July of 1864 command was taken from Johnston and > given to General John > Bell Hood who commanded until Jan 1865 when Gen > Taylor took over and Feb > when the command was returned to Johnston who > surrendered the army in > April of 1865. > > There are two good books to read that will help > immensely with > understanding the war. Shelby Foote's Trilogy and > Mark Boatner's The > Civil War Dictionary. The Trilogy is huge but is as > good as any for > understanding the military and civilian aspect of > the Civil War. The > Civil War Dictionary allows one to look up specifics > like "the Army of > The Cumberland" etc.... By the way the Army of the > Cumberland (Union) > fought in Tennessee also... > And by all means keep asking questions on the list > because many on this > list have significant resources to guide them in > their answers. > Mike > > > Manaia Alofa wrote: > > Hello Mike: > > > > I am gonna have to read these posts all at one > time > > instead of when they've been posted - grin. > > > > > >> The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the > >> Confederate Army that fought in > >> the western areas during the war (between the > >> Appalachians and Mississippi). > >> > > > > But nothing North. No states after the Mason-Dixon > > line? Just below that line? Got it! > > > > > >> And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal > >> unit which fought in the > >> Western Theater. > >> > > > > Now this is where I am always confused - the word > > "Theater". I'm not that well versed on WW2 but > because > > of my dealings in the South Pacific I'd had to > learn > > the WW2 Pacific theater and now the Western > theater? > > All my mind is capable of seeing is a movie > theater > > every time I hear/see those words. > > > > Puhleese elaborate. > > > > <GRIN> > > --Manaia > > > > ++++ > > > > --- NPeters102@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >> In a message dated 5/23/2008 10:24:36 A.M. > Eastern > >> Daylight Time, > >> eharding2@suddenlink.net writes: > >> > >> The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the > >> Confederate Army that fought in > >> the western areas during the war (between the > >> Appalachians and Mississippi). > >> > >> And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal > >> unit which fought in the > >> Western Theater. > >> > >> Respectfully, > >> > >> Mike Peters > >> npeters102@aol.com

To build on Mike's organizational message, an Army Corps was generally organized as Divisions which were made up of Brigades which were made up of Regiments which were made up of Companies and/or Battalions The Cavalry also used the word "Troop." (Can one of you Cavalry types help me out here? Was Troop equal to a regiment or a company? Thanks!) Alice Gayley Never too old to learn! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ruddy" <mpruddy@gmail.com> To: <civil-war@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Army of Tennessee / Army of Vicksburg / Federal? > Manaia > There is good reason to be confused and even those of us who have spent > years studying the war get confused from time to time, for instance, > both the North (Union, Federal, USA, Blue) and the South (Confederate, > CSA, Grey, Butternut) had an Army of Tennessee and both also had a > Department of Tennessee. > > Army Corps describes a group of several divisions under one General. And > Army describes a group of Army Corps under one General. Theater of > operation generally describes the area in which various Armies operated > and Department describes the area of assignment of several Armies. > There was a lot of shifting around of Armies back and forth between > commands depending on where the needs were the greatest and therefore an > Army fighting in one Department could be moved to another and so on down > to Brigade level. Infantry Regiments for the most part remained fixed in > size and command, however Cavalry and Artillery many times had Companies > split off and loaned or transferred to different Brigades or Divisions. > Any Department could be enlarged or reduced and Armies could be added or > removed so the designations held at one time could change with military > requirements. The Department designation was only relatively > representative of the area in which the Department was located. > > The Union Army of the Tennessee was formed in October of 1862 and was > commanded by US Grant until 1863 then General Sherman until March 1864, > then James McPherson until he was killed July 1864. Gens Logan and > Howard commanded alternately until the end Aug 1865. This Army consisted > of the XIII, XV, XVI, and XVII Army Corps. > > The Confederate Army of Tennessee was formed in Nov 1862 under Braxton > Bragg. In Dec of 1863 the command shifted to General Johnston and in > July of 1864 command was taken from Johnston and given to General John > Bell Hood who commanded until Jan 1865 when Gen Taylor took over and Feb > when the command was returned to Johnston who surrendered the army in > April of 1865. > > There are two good books to read that will help immensely with > understanding the war. Shelby Foote's Trilogy and Mark Boatner's The > Civil War Dictionary. The Trilogy is huge but is as good as any for > understanding the military and civilian aspect of the Civil War. The > Civil War Dictionary allows one to look up specifics like "the Army of > The Cumberland" etc.... By the way the Army of the Cumberland (Union) > fought in Tennessee also... > And by all means keep asking questions on the list because many on this > list have significant resources to guide them in their answers. > Mike > > > Manaia Alofa wrote: >> Hello Mike: >> >> I am gonna have to read these posts all at one time >> instead of when they've been posted - grin. >> >> >>> The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the >>> Confederate Army that fought in >>> the western areas during the war (between the >>> Appalachians and Mississippi). >>> >> >> But nothing North. No states after the Mason-Dixon >> line? Just below that line? Got it! >> >> >>> And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal >>> unit which fought in the >>> Western Theater. >>> >> >> Now this is where I am always confused - the word >> "Theater". I'm not that well versed on WW2 but because >> of my dealings in the South Pacific I'd had to learn >> the WW2 Pacific theater and now the Western theater? >> All my mind is capable of seeing is a movie theater >> every time I hear/see those words. >> >> Puhleese elaborate. >> >> <GRIN> >> --Manaia >> >> ++++ >> >> --- NPeters102@aol.com wrote: >> >> >>> In a message dated 5/23/2008 10:24:36 A.M. Eastern >>> Daylight Time, >>> eharding2@suddenlink.net writes: >>> >>> The Army of Tennessee was the portion of the >>> Confederate Army that fought in >>> the western areas during the war (between the >>> Appalachians and Mississippi). >>> >>> And the Army of the Tennessee was a Union/Federal >>> unit which fought in the >>> Western Theater. >>> >>> Respectfully, >>> >>> Mike Peters >>> npeters102@aol.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >