I'm not really up on all the War details, but I do have a question that perhaps someone here can answer.? I know the North had a Navy and the South had something similiar in place, now my question is:? How many battles between the two sides if any were fought on the Mississippi river? I've heard of battles along the Atlantic and some?of the inland rivers off the Atlantic, but I've never heard of any real battles on the Mississippi which should have been a fertile area for fighting.? I know the railroads had their share?of problems between the two fighting armies, but not much is?written that I have seen about the?Navy's of either side.? Any Navy buffs out there?who can answer?this question?? Vicki? researching these from NY and PA mostly: Arwin, Baker, Barrett, Brokaw, Brandow, Butler,Carnes, Crowe, Dean, Ferris, Golden, Havens, Hendershott, Hoxter, Huber, Isaman, Jenks (all variations), Kelleher, Knapp, Koons, Lundrigan, Makeley, McDermott, Mehlenbacher, Merritt, Neu, Northrup, O'Connor, Osincup, Patterson, Powers, Quick, Rahmlow, Robertson, Robinson, Root, Ryan, Slaughter, Stocum, Wade, White, Wilcox, Wright, Van Oxx (Oxx), Vanbenschoter, Yeckley, Young, Zimmerman. -----Original Message----- From: Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> To: civil-war@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 23 May 2008 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Army of Tennessee / Army of Vicksburg / Federal? Manaia, > > Artillery Corps: heavy weaponry? cannons? Exactly. There was also > "Light" artillery, but we'll save that for a later time. > > Cavalry Corps: soldiers who rode on horses? Exactly. Although sometimes > when they fought in battle they dismounted. > > Infantry Corps: everyone else on foot? Right. > I'm trying to get the gist before I hit the books. Is > Corps short for Corporations? No, it's a French term as in "esprit de > corps." > > It's a wonder anyone could win a war let alone fight a > war with all this planning and designing going on just > to strategize. Well, think about our foreign relations in today's world. What else are they except planned and designed strategies to prevent some other country from attacking us, either at home or elsewhere in the world? Battle strategies are almost as old as man himself. Think about the Romans and the Carthagens, or the British and the U. S. Army in the Revolutionary war. War is not simple; never has been. Yes, the individual soldier has to run into battle and shot at what he sees, but there are those above him who have picked his target, decided the direction in which he will run, and the time he steps off. Having grown up during WWII, I'm always in awe of the men in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars when linear warfare was used. How could you just line up and start shooting at each other, e. g., Pickett's charge at Gettysburg? It's easier to understand hiding behind rocks, buildings, etc. to protect yourself and not making yourself a target. I'm all for ambush! Alice > "I'm tired already." More musings later. > > --Manaia > > ++++ > > --- Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Manaia, >> >> Generally, >> >> An Army was made up of one Artillery Corps, one >> Cavalry Corps and an >> Infantry Corps. >> >> The Infantry Corps was made up of divisions (two or >> three or more). >> Infantry Divisions were made up of Brigades (usually >> three or more) >> Brigades were made up of Regiments (no fixed number >> generally three or four >> or more) >> Regiments were made up of Companies (Infantry >> regiments usually had ten >> companies designed as: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, >> and K), although there >> were larger regiments. Cavalry regiments usually >> had more than ten >> companies. >> >> Battalions were larger than a regiment and smaller >> than regiment. Perhaps >> some one else can speak to the size of a battalion. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Alice Gayley > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A good book on the topic is Ivan Musicant's "Divided Waters: The Naval History of the Civil War," Edison, NJ: Castle Books, 2000. Alice Gayley -----Original Message----- From: civil-war-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:civil-war-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of v10852@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:14 PM To: civil-war@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Army of Tennessee / Army of Vicksburg / Federal? I'm not really up on all the War details, but I do have a question that perhaps someone here can answer.? I know the North had a Navy and the South had something similiar in place, now my question is:? How many battles between the two sides if any were fought on the Mississippi river? I've heard of battles along the Atlantic and some?of the inland rivers off the Atlantic, but I've never heard of any real battles on the Mississippi which should have been a fertile area for fighting.? I know the railroads had their share?of problems between the two fighting armies, but not much is?written that I have seen about the?Navy's of either side.? Any Navy buffs out there?who can answer?this question?? Vicki? researching these from NY and PA mostly: Arwin, Baker, Barrett, Brokaw, Brandow, Butler,Carnes, Crowe, Dean, Ferris, Golden, Havens, Hendershott, Hoxter, Huber, Isaman, Jenks (all variations), Kelleher, Knapp, Koons, Lundrigan, Makeley, McDermott, Mehlenbacher, Merritt, Neu, Northrup, O'Connor, Osincup, Patterson, Powers, Quick, Rahmlow, Robertson, Robinson, Root, Ryan, Slaughter, Stocum, Wade, White, Wilcox, Wright, Van Oxx (Oxx), Vanbenschoter, Yeckley, Young, Zimmerman. -----Original Message----- From: Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> To: civil-war@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 23 May 2008 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Army of Tennessee / Army of Vicksburg / Federal? Manaia, > > Artillery Corps: heavy weaponry? cannons? Exactly. There was also > "Light" artillery, but we'll save that for a later time. > > Cavalry Corps: soldiers who rode on horses? Exactly. Although sometimes > when they fought in battle they dismounted. > > Infantry Corps: everyone else on foot? Right. > I'm trying to get the gist before I hit the books. Is > Corps short for Corporations? No, it's a French term as in "esprit de > corps." > > It's a wonder anyone could win a war let alone fight a > war with all this planning and designing going on just > to strategize. Well, think about our foreign relations in today's world. What else are they except planned and designed strategies to prevent some other country from attacking us, either at home or elsewhere in the world? Battle strategies are almost as old as man himself. Think about the Romans and the Carthagens, or the British and the U. S. Army in the Revolutionary war. War is not simple; never has been. Yes, the individual soldier has to run into battle and shot at what he sees, but there are those above him who have picked his target, decided the direction in which he will run, and the time he steps off. Having grown up during WWII, I'm always in awe of the men in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars when linear warfare was used. How could you just line up and start shooting at each other, e. g., Pickett's charge at Gettysburg? It's easier to understand hiding behind rocks, buildings, etc. to protect yourself and not making yourself a target. I'm all for ambush! Alice > "I'm tired already." More musings later. > > --Manaia > > ++++ > > --- Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Manaia, >> >> Generally, >> >> An Army was made up of one Artillery Corps, one >> Cavalry Corps and an >> Infantry Corps. >> >> The Infantry Corps was made up of divisions (two or >> three or more). >> Infantry Divisions were made up of Brigades (usually >> three or more) >> Brigades were made up of Regiments (no fixed number >> generally three or four >> or more) >> Regiments were made up of Companies (Infantry >> regiments usually had ten >> companies designed as: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, >> and K), although there >> were larger regiments. Cavalry regiments usually >> had more than ten >> companies. >> >> Battalions were larger than a regiment and smaller >> than regiment. Perhaps >> some one else can speak to the size of a battalion. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Alice Gayley > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another good Book "Beneath the Waters" by James E Hemphill ----- Original Message ----- From: <v10852@aol.com> To: <civil-war@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Army of Tennessee / Army of Vicksburg / Federal? > I'm not really up on all the War details, but I do have a question that > perhaps someone here can answer.? I know the North had a Navy and the > South had something similiar in place, now my question is:? How many > battles between the two sides if any were fought on the Mississippi river? > > I've heard of battles along the Atlantic and some?of the inland rivers off > the Atlantic, but I've never heard of any real battles on the Mississippi > which should have been a fertile area for fighting.? I know the railroads > had their share?of problems between the two fighting armies, but not much > is?written that I have seen about the?Navy's of either side.? Any Navy > buffs out there?who can answer?this question?? Vicki? > > > researching these from NY and PA mostly: Arwin, Baker, Barrett, Brokaw, > Brandow, Butler,Carnes, Crowe, Dean, Ferris, Golden, Havens, Hendershott, > Hoxter, Huber, Isaman, Jenks (all variations), Kelleher, Knapp, Koons, > Lundrigan, Makeley, McDermott, Mehlenbacher, Merritt, Neu, Northrup, > O'Connor, Osincup, Patterson, Powers, Quick, Rahmlow, Robertson, Robinson, > Root, Ryan, Slaughter, Stocum, Wade, White, Wilcox, Wright, Van Oxx (Oxx), > Vanbenschoter, Yeckley, Young, Zimmerman. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> > To: civil-war@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 23 May 2008 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Army of Tennessee / Army of Vicksburg / Federal? > > > > Manaia, >> >> Artillery Corps: heavy weaponry? cannons? Exactly. There was also >> "Light" artillery, but we'll save that for a later time. >> >> Cavalry Corps: soldiers who rode on horses? Exactly. Although sometimes >> when they fought in battle they dismounted. >> >> Infantry Corps: everyone else on foot? Right. > >> I'm trying to get the gist before I hit the books. Is >> Corps short for Corporations? No, it's a French term as in "esprit de >> corps." > >> >> It's a wonder anyone could win a war let alone fight a >> war with all this planning and designing going on just >> to strategize. > > Well, think about our foreign relations in today's world. What else are > they except planned and designed strategies to prevent some other country > from attacking us, either at home or elsewhere in the world? Battle > strategies are almost as old as man himself. Think about the Romans and > the > Carthagens, or the British and the U. S. Army in the Revolutionary war. > War > is not simple; never has been. Yes, the individual soldier has to run > into > battle and shot at what he sees, but there are those above him who have > picked his target, decided the direction in which he will run, and the > time > he steps off. > > Having grown up during WWII, I'm always in awe of the men in the > Revolutionary and Civil Wars when linear warfare was used. How could you > just line up and start shooting at each other, e. g., Pickett's charge at > Gettysburg? It's easier to understand hiding behind rocks, buildings, > etc. > to protect yourself and not making yourself a target. I'm all for ambush! > > Alice > >> "I'm tired already." More musings later. >> >> --Manaia >> >> ++++ >> >> --- Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> Manaia, >>> >>> Generally, >>> >>> An Army was made up of one Artillery Corps, one >>> Cavalry Corps and an >>> Infantry Corps. >>> >>> The Infantry Corps was made up of divisions (two or >>> three or more). >>> Infantry Divisions were made up of Brigades (usually >>> three or more) >>> Brigades were made up of Regiments (no fixed number >>> generally three or four >>> or more) >>> Regiments were made up of Companies (Infantry >>> regiments usually had ten >>> companies designed as: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, >>> and K), although there >>> were larger regiments. Cavalry regiments usually >>> had more than ten >>> companies. >>> >>> Battalions were larger than a regiment and smaller >>> than regiment. Perhaps >>> some one else can speak to the size of a battalion. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Alice Gayley >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Vicki, I am not a Navy buff, but maybe I can answer your question as best I can. Up on the upper of the Mississippi the Noth a Navy Flotilla. The Confederates decided they needed to build a River Defense Flotilla which they did in 1862. The Noth moved down the river and had a pitch battle with the Confederates near Fort Pillow. The Union Navy pushed the Confederates down to Memphis where a battle took place. The Confederate Flotilla was commanded by Capt J.E Montgomery. The battle took place on June 6,1862. The Union Flotilla wiped out the Confederate force confronting them. Four vessels were captured and three destroyed. One vessel the Van Dorn escaped to the Yazoo River were it was later destroyed. >From then on the Union had control of the River. However they had a very hard time getting by Vick- sburg. And was only able to get by at night. Also keep in mind these bouts were not Ironclads, most were converted steam boats. Most of the time heavy and light side wheelers. Lightly armored. They mostly battled short batteries and Forts. Hope I have helped answer your question. Ted Myers --- v10852@aol.com wrote: > I'm not really up on all the War details, but I do > have a question that perhaps someone here can > answer.? I know the North had a Navy and the South > had something similiar in place, now my question > is:? How many battles between the two sides if any > were fought on the Mississippi river? > > I've heard of battles along the Atlantic and some?of > the inland rivers off the Atlantic, but I've never > heard of any real battles on the Mississippi which > should have been a fertile area for fighting.? I > know the railroads had their share?of problems > between the two fighting armies, but not much > is?written that I have seen about the?Navy's of > either side.? Any Navy buffs out there?who can > answer?this question?? Vicki? > > > researching these from NY and PA mostly: Arwin, > Baker, Barrett, Brokaw, Brandow, Butler,Carnes, > Crowe, Dean, Ferris, Golden, Havens, Hendershott, > Hoxter, Huber, Isaman, Jenks (all variations), > Kelleher, Knapp, Koons, Lundrigan, Makeley, > McDermott, Mehlenbacher, Merritt, Neu, Northrup, > O'Connor, Osincup, Patterson, Powers, Quick, > Rahmlow, Robertson, Robinson, Root, Ryan, Slaughter, > Stocum, Wade, White, Wilcox, Wright, Van Oxx (Oxx), > Vanbenschoter, Yeckley, Young, Zimmerman. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> > To: civil-war@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 23 May 2008 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Army of Tennessee / Army of > Vicksburg / Federal? > > > > Manaia, > > > > Artillery Corps: heavy weaponry? cannons? > Exactly. There was also > > "Light" artillery, but we'll save that for a later > time. > > > > Cavalry Corps: soldiers who rode on horses? > Exactly. Although sometimes > > when they fought in battle they dismounted. > > > > Infantry Corps: everyone else on foot? Right. > > > I'm trying to get the gist before I hit the books. > Is > > Corps short for Corporations? No, it's a French > term as in "esprit de > > corps." > > > > > It's a wonder anyone could win a war let alone > fight a > > war with all this planning and designing going on > just > > to strategize. > > Well, think about our foreign relations in today's > world. What else are > they except planned and designed strategies to > prevent some other country > from attacking us, either at home or elsewhere in > the world? Battle > strategies are almost as old as man himself. Think > about the Romans and the > Carthagens, or the British and the U. S. Army in the > Revolutionary war. War > is not simple; never has been. Yes, the individual > soldier has to run into > battle and shot at what he sees, but there are those > above him who have > picked his target, decided the direction in which he > will run, and the time > he steps off. > > Having grown up during WWII, I'm always in awe of > the men in the > Revolutionary and Civil Wars when linear warfare was > used. How could you > just line up and start shooting at each other, e. > g., Pickett's charge at > Gettysburg? It's easier to understand hiding behind > rocks, buildings, etc. > to protect yourself and not making yourself a > target. I'm all for ambush! > > Alice > > > "I'm tired already." More musings later. > > > > --Manaia > > > > ++++ > > > > --- Alice Gayley <agayley@verizon.net> wrote: > > > >> Manaia, > >> > >> Generally, > >> > >> An Army was made up of one Artillery Corps, one > >> Cavalry Corps and an > >> Infantry Corps. > >> > >> The Infantry Corps was made up of divisions (two > or > >> three or more). > >> Infantry Divisions were made up of Brigades > (usually > >> three or more) > >> Brigades were made up of Regiments (no fixed > number > >> generally three or four > >> or more) > >> Regiments were made up of Companies (Infantry > >> regiments usually had ten > >> companies designed as: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, > >> and K), although there > >> were larger regiments. Cavalry regiments usually > >> had more than ten > >> companies. > >> > >> Battalions were larger than a regiment and > smaller > >> than regiment. Perhaps > >> some one else can speak to the size of a > battalion. > >> > >> Hope this helps, > >> Alice Gayley > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >