It's always good to read books and find other firsthand accounting of experiences of soldiers in the War. One good website online some of you may enjoy is Extracts of Letters Home by CSA Major General Bryan Grimes from Pitt County, North Carolina, my wife's Great Grandfather. Major General Grimes was the last Major General appointed by Robert E. Lee before the end of the War. A book has been done on these, but there is also a website that contains a good bit of these letters. If anyone is interested, you can find the website at this address: http://docsouth.unc.edu/grimes/grimes.html At present, I'm trying to finish a small book about my German Great Great Grandfather, Sergeant Major William Henry von Eberstein. Before his death in 1890, he wrote his memoirs and included quite a lot about his time in the War. I have been transcribing the portion of the memoirs about his time in the War. He started with Co K, 10th NC State Troops which was a Heavy Artillery Company, and later transferred to the Field & Staff of the NC 61st Regiment. His brother in law, Henry Harding, was Major of the 61st. Once I get all of it put together, I'm having it published, but will only have a small number done. I'll let everyone know when it's done in case someone might have an interest in it. Edward Harding SCV NC Division Genealogist
To all friends and interested partys, The long awaited book, "The Civil War Papers of Lt. Colonel Newton T. Colby, New York Infantry," is now in print. It tells the story of his civil war military career through his letters home, during his time with the 23rd & 107th New York Regiments and in the Veteran Reserve Corps. The "official" date of publication is October 2003. Copies can be had at this time through the publisher at McFarlandpub.com for 49.95. Thank you for your interest & support, Sincerely yours, William (Bill) Hughes
Can Bob Rice of Lancaster Co. contact me directly? Harry Sharp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Rice" <boreda@frontiernet.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] 79th P.V.I. at Chickamauga and Chattanooga > Today I found mention that the 79th P.V.I.(Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry) has a monument dedicated to them at Chickamauga and at Chattanooga. I am sorry, but I failed to take note of the particular site that I found that info. > I would like to know if either of these monuments have the names of the enlisted men engraved on them. > I am looking for a civil war monument that would have my great great grandfather Joseph S. Rice and his brother Daniel Rice's name on it. They were in Company C. > > Thanks, > Bob Rice from Lancaster County, PA > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe >
Bob, Here is a question from my vast store of ignorance. I see that the 79th had 17 officers and 350 men in action at Chickamauga. "it lost 16 killed, 66 wounded and 47 missing." Would a monument be likely to have inscribed all 367 men? Was that done on many other monuments? I haven't been to a battlefield in a long time and can't remember what most monuments contained. Sharon
Today I found mention that the 79th P.V.I.(Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry) has a monument dedicated to them at Chickamauga and at Chattanooga. I am sorry, but I failed to take note of the particular site that I found that info. I would like to know if either of these monuments have the names of the enlisted men engraved on them. I am looking for a civil war monument that would have my great great grandfather Joseph S. Rice and his brother Daniel Rice's name on it. They were in Company C. Thanks, Bob Rice from Lancaster County, PA
there is infornation on some of the soldiers and when I come accross that information in the Books of "Roll of Honor" I will send the information to them and they have been good enough to bring their records up to date. Ann <rjknauf@earthlink.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] CIVILWARDATA.com > Mike, would the CIVIL WAR data base have information on disposal of > remains.....whether or not that deceased was transported home by family or > rather was buried in hospitals cemetery site. > By the way, I got some good information re: Civil War Hospitals and > cemeteries used by CW hospitals from the CW Medicine History Museum in > Frederick, MD. > > Jeannette > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >
Thanks, That information pretty much rules the 52nd GA John out as the same soldier in the 2nd KY. Unfortunately, the John L Wehunt that I thought served the 11th GA BAT , had a wife named Elizabeth, and the Union Widow was named Mary A, which I hoped was John L Wehunt's son John, who married a Mary A. Rider in Lumpkin co GA. I guess this means they were different people. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "mpruddy" <mpruddy@msn.com> > Here is a John Wehunt in the Union KY 2nd Cavalry > John Wehunt > Residence not listed; > Enlisted on 10/20/1862 at Concord Church, TN as a Private. > On 10/20/1862 he mustered into "B" Co. KY 2nd Cavalry > He was Mustered Out on 7/17/1865 at Lexington, KY > He was listed as: > * POW 9/10/1864 Atlanta, GA (Exchanged) > * Wounded 5/2/1865 Buzzard Roost, GA > Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: > - Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Kentucky > > And here is a John Wehunt in the 52nd GA Inf (they appear to be different > men since this fellow seems to have been with his regiment in February of > 1863) > John Wehunt > Residence Lumpkin County GA; > Enlisted on 7/6/1862 as a Private. > On 7/6/1862 he mustered into "D" Co. GA 52nd Infantry > (date and method of discharge not given) > (Present Feb 1863) > Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: > - Roster of Confederate Soldiers of Georgia 1861-1865 > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >
Hi all, I need information on the service of the following 3 men... the only John Wehunt's I can find participating in the Civil War. John Wehunt 2nd KY CAV..............Union John L Wehunt 11th BAT GA ST. GD.......CSA John Wehunt 52nd GA INF...................CSA Ancestry imaging for the pension index is not working with the Wehunts, but the index indicates a Union soldier named John Wehunt filed for a pension in GA. This would place all 3 soldiers in GA. The GA Pension Index for confederate Soldiers indicate that "no" Wehunts filed for a pension in GA, so the KY soldier is possibly the same person as one of the other 2 John Wehunts. Since the 52nd GA INF operated in KY near the beginning of the war, I'm wondering if that John Wehunt went missing, deserted, was captured ect. while in the area. Unfortunately, I can't find anything on the operations of the 11th BAT GA State Guards, so if anyone has anything, I would appreciate the information. I do know that other Wehunts served in the 11th GA BAT, and they were from Lumpkin and Dawson Co GA. Keith Bailey
Here is a John Wehunt in the Union KY 2nd Cavalry John Wehunt Residence not listed; Enlisted on 10/20/1862 at Concord Church, TN as a Private. On 10/20/1862 he mustered into "B" Co. KY 2nd Cavalry He was Mustered Out on 7/17/1865 at Lexington, KY He was listed as: * POW 9/10/1864 Atlanta, GA (Exchanged) * Wounded 5/2/1865 Buzzard Roost, GA Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: - Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Kentucky And here is a John Wehunt in the 52nd GA Inf (they appear to be different men since this fellow seems to have been with his regiment in February of 1863) John Wehunt Residence Lumpkin County GA; Enlisted on 7/6/1862 as a Private. On 7/6/1862 he mustered into "D" Co. GA 52nd Infantry (date and method of discharge not given) (Present Feb 1863) Sources used by Historical Data Systems, Inc.: - Roster of Confederate Soldiers of Georgia 1861-1865
Harry, Thanks for the reply. Keith.
Jim, That does answer part of my Question. I guess I just had it in my head that the index cross-indexed the State records for confederate soldiers too; I did not know the online CW index was just for U.S. Soldiers. Since almost all my confederate relatives crossed the lines and rejoined the Union, I didn't think anything of it. That would definitely explain why I couldn't find the John Wehunt in the GA confederate pension index book at the library. He had to have rejoined a Union Unit. Still, do you know if there is an easy way to tell the difference between CW pensioners and SAW pensioners. NARA says that the index contains both group of veterans and that the writing in the upper corner indicates that information, but the images at Ancestry are not quite good enough to determine that. I guess you have to go by the date a pension was filed for. Thanks, you opened my eyes a little and now maybe it will be easier to see what I'm looking for when I find it. Keith Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gilmer" <jimgilmer@alaweb.com> > Keith, > > I'm not sure if this is what your are asking, but the pensions you find in > ancestry.com that come from NARA are all union veterans, as the United > States Government only awarded pensions for CW veterans who fought on the > union side. > > Confederate veterans had to apply to the state where they were living at the > time of application; each southern state administered its own pension, with > its own rules. So you have to find confederate pensions at the archives of > the respective state where you think the confederate veteran/widow applied > from. These are not on line at ancestry.
On 10 Jul 2003 at 17:03, keith d bailey wrote: > Hi all, > This is almost off the subject, but how do I determine a soldiers > service (confederate vs. Union, ect.) from the pension files that > Ancestry has online? As far as I know Ancestry has no confederate pension indexes online, so that narrows your choices a little. > not high enough resolution to read and since soldiers that served > in the Spanish American War (1898) also appear in the index, I'm > finding it hard to tell whether they were in the Union Army or > Spanish American War without cross referencing the name with Union > Rosters. The index used for the Ancestry database is _General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934_, microfilm T288 (Washington: National Archives), therefore your idea of cross referencing the name with Union rosters is a very good one. Indexes are also available of soldiers who served in the Spanish American War. > know Several Union Armies were mustered in TN, so what would be > the key difference between the two pension application files that > would let me know the difference between the two Wars? The date of filing is often the only clue. > Also can someone help with this persons pension? I have been > looking for the pension of a John Wehunt who served in a > Confederate GA Reg. Ancestry lists that John Wehunt and his > widow had a pension file in GA, but the wrong file comes up when > you click it. I have been going through different counties files, > but not having luck. My library finally got an index of all > confederate pensions in GA so I looked for him. There were no > Wehunts listed in the index at all. So, did all the Wehunts go off > and also join a Union unit or could the index be incomplete? The index could be incomplete, but if Ancestry lists the correct John Wehunt applying for a Union pension it would seem that John also joined a Union unit (no doubt this would jeopardize any chance of receiving a Confederate pension). However, in checking the Ancestry indexes there is no John Wehunt listed as serving in the Union forces. My advice would be to check the actual indexes at NARA. Regards, Harry _ H. Spencer Byfield sbyfield@genealogy-quest.com Genealogy Quest "Military records at reasonable prices" http://www.genealogy-quest.com/Military/index.html
Hi all, This is almost off the subject, but how do I determine a soldiers service (confederate vs. Union, ect.) from the pension files that Ancestry has online? A lot of the writing in the corners are just not high enough resolution to read and since soldiers that served in the Spanish American War (1898) also appear in the index, I'm finding it hard to tell whether they were in the Union Army or Spanish American War without cross referencing the name with Union Rosters. An example of this would be Joseph W. Holland CO M 3rd Reg GA INF. He has a pension filed in Alabama in 1921. In this case, I'm fairly certain he was in the Spanish American War as apposed to being a Union Soldier. For one thing, a tombstone bearing the same name and unit says he was in the S.A.W. Other than that, I have never heard or read of a 3rd GA regiment in the Union Army. But, what if the Regiment was listed as say the 3rd Reg TN Inf. I know Several Union Armies were mustered in TN, so what would be the key difference between the two pension application files that would let me know the difference between the two Wars? Also can someone help with this persons pension? I have been looking for the pension of a John Wehunt who served in a Confederate GA Reg. Ancestry lists that John Wehunt and his widow had a pension file in GA, but the wrong file comes up when you click it. I have been going through different counties files, but not having luck. My library finally got an index of all confederate pensions in GA so I looked for him. There were no Wehunts listed in the index at all. So, did all the Wehunts go off and also join a Union unit or could the index be incomplete? Anybody got an answer? Keith Bailey
Keith, I'm not sure if this is what your are asking, but the pensions you find in ancestry.com that come from NARA are all union veterans, as the United States Government only awarded pensions for CW veterans who fought on the union side. Confederate veterans had to apply to the state where they were living at the time of application; each southern state administered its own pension, with its own rules. So you have to find confederate pensions at the archives of the respective state where you think the confederate veteran/widow applied from. These are not on line at ancestry. -------Original Message------- From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2003 03:50:48 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Civil War Pension index Question Hi all, This is almost off the subject, but how do I determine a soldiers service (confederate vs. Union, ect.) from the pension files that Ancestry has online? A lot of the writing in the corners are just not high enough resolution to read and since soldiers that served in the Spanish American War (1898) also appear in the index, I'm finding it hard to tell whether they were in the Union Army or Spanish American War without cross referencing the name with Union Rosters. An example of this would be Joseph W. Holland CO M 3rd Reg GA INF. He has a pension filed in Alabama in 1921. In this case, I'm fairly certain he was in the Spanish American War as apposed to being a Union Soldier. For one thing, a tombstone bearing the same name and unit says he was in the S.A.W. Other than that, I have never heard or read of a 3rd GA regiment in the Union Army But, what if the Regiment was listed as say the 3rd Reg TN Inf. I know Several Union Armies were mustered in TN, so what would be the key difference between the two pension application files that would let me know the difference between the two Wars? Also can someone help with this persons pension? I have been looking for the pension of a John Wehunt who served in a Confederate GA Reg. Ancestry lists that John Wehunt and his widow had a pension file in GA, but the wrong file comes up when you click it. I have been going through different counties files, but not having luck. My library finally got an index of all confederate pensions in GA so I looked for him. There were no Wehunts listed in the index at all. So, did all the Wehunts go off and also join a Union unit or could the index be incomplete? Anybody got an answer? Keith Bailey ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe .
Mike, would the CIVIL WAR data base have information on disposal of remains.....whether or not that deceased was transported home by family or rather was buried in hospitals cemetery site. By the way, I got some good information re: Civil War Hospitals and cemeteries used by CW hospitals from the CW Medicine History Museum in Frederick, MD. Jeannette
In a message dated 7/9/03 9:22:38 PM !!!First Boot!!!, mpruddy@msn.com writes: > An article I wrote (in edited form) was published in the April edition of > Civil War Times. I have been given permission to post the original with notes Oh I am so glad <VBG> Eliz
An article I wrote (in edited form) was published in the April edition of Civil War Times. I have been given permission to post the original with notes. For those interested given below is the URL Mike http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mruddy/GreeenFlag1.htm
Debbie A brigade was comprised of usually 3 regiments. There would be a Brigadier General (but sometimes lesser rank commanded brigades) and his personal staff connected to the Headquarters. This would mean he was serving in some capacity om the staff of the brigade commander to which his regiment was "brigaded" (joined). Mike > We recently received an ancestor's service records. In the notes for roll > call, it says that he was detached to Brigade Headquarters, as abbreviated > in the subject line for this email (I assume that's what it means?) What > does that mean exactly? What would he be doing in this capacity? He had > spent a couple months the previous year as a nurse following a battle. Would > either or both of these mean he was injured, enough so he could perform > helpful duties, but not enough to be sent home? > Thanks, > Debbie in Ohio
On 9 Jul 2003 at 13:06, Debbie Moore wrote: > Hello All - > > We recently received an ancestor's service records. In the notes for > roll call, it says that he was detached to Brigade Headquarters, as > abbreviated in the subject line for this email (I assume that's what > it means?) What does that mean exactly? What would he be doing in this > capacity? He had spent a couple months the previous year as a nurse > following a battle. Would either or both of these mean he was injured, > enough so he could perform helpful duties, but not enough to be sent > home? Not necessarily. Do his carded medical file show he was injured on these occasions? > His pension papers are at the Veteran's Administration rather than the > National Archives--why would this be? Inactive pension files were turned over to NARA in the 1920's, if there was a claimant alive at that time the pension file was retained by what is now the VA. _ H. Spencer Byfield sbyfield@genealogy-quest.com Genealogy Quest "Military records at reasonable prices" http://www.genealogy-quest.com/Military/index.html
Hello All - We recently received an ancestor's service records. In the notes for roll call, it says that he was detached to Brigade Headquarters, as abbreviated in the subject line for this email (I assume that's what it means?) What does that mean exactly? What would he be doing in this capacity? He had spent a couple months the previous year as a nurse following a battle. Would either or both of these mean he was injured, enough so he could perform helpful duties, but not enough to be sent home? His pension papers are at the Veteran's Administration rather than the National Archives--why would this be? James K. Barnett 10th W. Va. Infantry Thanks, Debbie in Ohio _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail