In a message dated 07/25/2003 9:16:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mocsa@earthlink.net writes: > And it was Congress that gave them the > privileges and recognition of being a State of equal standing. Lincoln's > stance, and I assume it is now national policy, is that > secession can only be permitted if that State gets consent from Congress > (who represents the people of the U.S.). Congress was the > one to admit it, so Congress must be the one to omit it. > > The right to secede predates Congress. It is a God given right, it is as > natural to human beings as breathing, to not suffer undue and unwarranted > oppression, not to mention a primary right that we established (IN WRITTEN FORM) in > the beginning of the thirteen original Colonies. What is Congress but our > own delegates, representatives of their own people, and not an autonomous > entity, with ideas of it's own. Did England give us permission to secede, l think > not, isn't that why we had a revolutionary war? Secession can never be > something that is "permitted." The Colonies assembled and threw off the tyranny of > Great Britain; > Taken from the DOI; <> <<<<<<<<<We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of > America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the > world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of > the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these > United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that > they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all > political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought > to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have > full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, > and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right > do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the > protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our > Fortunes and our sacred Honor.>>>>>>>>>> > > Well, this is what the South did when they seceded form the Union, only to > be met by Criminal opposition, not unlike the same opposition that the > Colonies were confronted with. > Taken from.... South Carolina Declaration of Succession December 24, 186 <> <<<<<Under this Confederation the war of the Revolution was carried on, > and on the 3rd of September, 1783, the contest ended, and a definite Treaty was > signed by Great Britain, in which she acknowledged the independence of the > Colonies in the following terms: "ARTICLE 1-- His Britannic Majesty > acknowledges the said United States, viz: New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode > Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, > Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, > to be FREE, SOVEREIGN AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that he treats with them as > such; and for himself, his heirs and successors, relinquishes all claims to the > government, propriety and territorial rights of the same and every part > thereof." Thus were established the two great principles asserted by the Colonies, > namely: the right of a State to govern itself; and the right of a people to > abolish a Government when it becomes destructive of the ends for which it was > instituted. And concurrent with the establishment of these principles, was > the fact, that each Colony became and was recognized by the mother Country a > FREE, SOVEREIGN AND INDEPENDENT STATE. They end their appeal and rights to govern themselves with; <<<<<<We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do. Carolyn l don't understand the remark.. "The one with the bigger stick wins." Perhaps you got your mailing lists mixed up??

Paula, No, I did not mention my ancestor's name or unit. His name was: Francis M. 'Frank' Nations His unit was: 4th Regiment, Texas Infantry Information received from history records in Gonzales, Texas, say that Frank Nations was born in March of 1842 in Mississippi. His family migrated to Texas in the 1850s. Records also say that he died on September 17, 1862. Footnote says that he was killed in battle at Sharpsburg, Maryland, per military records and family Bible. Frank also had a brother in that same unit whose name was Robert H. Nations. If there may be more information on these individuals out there - I would certainly want to know. I want all the list to know how much I appreciate your expertise and input. Thank you all so much for your recommended information on the Battle at Antietam/Sharpsburg. Any further comments or recommendations will be gratefully received. Thanks! Edith

Is there a name to a battle around Yazoo River? My ggg-gf Sidney S Anderson was first announce MIA then dead at Liverpool Bluff (Heights) Miss.,until they found out he was captured there (either at Yazoo or Liverpool) and taken prisoner at Andersonville Prison in Georgia.He was a Pvt in Co E 11th IL Reg Inf. This took place Feb 3,1864.His records say he was "dropped from the previous rolls by error" during that time,exchanged prisoner on furlough in IL Jan & Feb 1865.His CO was Capt.Solomon Bostwick.He was also a patient at Adams Hosp.and Overton Hosp Memphis,TN on or abt 28 March 1865.Anyway, I have searched online and in one of my CW books for something in the way of a battle around Yazoo River.Thanks for any help, Darla Darla L Keener " Lewis Clan from Wales to Illinois " http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/k/e/e/Darla-Keener/index.html

> These territories were bought with tax monies, and these tax monies were from > the people of the original Colonies and Texas. How are these Territories not > equal with the original colonies once they become a state? Yes, the money to buy the territories were bought by the people of the United States. And it was Congress that gave them the privileges and recognition of being a State of equal standing. Lincoln's stance, and I assume it is now national policy, is that secession can only be permitted if that State gets consent from Congress (who represents the people of the U.S.). Congress was the one to admit it, so Congress must be the one to omit it. Otherwise it is revolution and the State is subject to military action. The one with the bigger stick wins. --Scott K. Williams

In a message dated 7/24/2003 9:36:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I recently learned that an ancestor had died in Sharpsburg that fateful > Sept. > > day. Edith: I was away and in all the emails somehow missed your original post. Did you tell us what unit your ancestor was with? There are numerous books out on the battle, some have been listed already. There is a book that lists those buried in the National Cem there also. Perhaps if you gave us more info on your relative, we could direct you to a book or article that specifically covers their actions there. If you already stated this, my apologies. As I mentioned, I missed your original post. Paula

Edward I for one have enjoyed your impute please don't stop. Nina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Harding" <eharding2@cox.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [CIVIL-WAR] Proper Education...Right to Secede? > The sources I primarily use are actual speeches, documents, etc., which I > have to say in certain ways ARE biased due to who they were written by, but > they were written by men who lived before, during, and after the War, and > showed what and how they thought during those times. I tend to show > actually what these people thought from their own words, not what someone > thought they might have said...examples: speeches from Lincoln and other > politicians, legal documents, etc. I may not be the best with words and > expressing my meaning, so I hope you don't criticize me too harshly. > > As far as the South's right to secede, I tend to tell about one segment from > the Declaration of Independence, which seemed to cause a previous war, a > rebellion, our Revolutionary War which gave us independence from England. > Were the South's reason's for seceding from the Union so different? "We > hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that > they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that > among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to > secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their > just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of > Government becomes destructive of those ends, it is the Right of the People > to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying it's > foundation on such principles and organizing its power in such form, as to > them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....." > The South did not try to overthrow the Federal Government, they wished to > secede from them and form their own government, a government based on the > Principles of our Founding Fathers. > > In studying the economics of the time prior to when the Southern States > seceded, it's easy to tell why this happened. Even as far back as 1828, > Senator Thomas H. Benton from Missouri declared: "Before the Revolution [the > South] was the seat of wealth, as well as hospitality....Wealth has fled > from the South, and settled in regions north of the Potomac: and this in the > face of the fact, that the South, in four staples alone, has exported > produce, since the Revolution, to the value of eight hundred millions of > dollars; and the North has exported comparatively nothing. Such an export > would indicate unparalleled wealth, but for what fact?....Under Federal > legislation, the exports of the South have been the basis of the Federal > revenue.....Virginia, the two Carolinas, and Georgia, may be said to defray > three-fourths, of the annual expense of supporting the Federal Government; > and of this great sum, annually furnished by them, nothing or next to > nothing is returned to them, in the shape of Government expenditures. That > expenditure flows in an opposite direction - it flows northwardly, in one > uniform, uninterrupted, and perennial stream. This is the reason why > wealth disappears from the South and rises up in the North. Federal > legislation does all this." > > I hope I haven't gone on too much, and again, I'm not trying to start a > debate. I'm just pulling my information from speeches, documents, etc., > from these times before, during, and after the War. > > Edward > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name >

In the months following the war, after Andersonville National Cemetery was established by Clara Barton and Dorence Atwater,there were more than 900 sets of remains brought back here to the newly established National Cemetery for reburial. These were brought here from throughout middle Georgia and as far as Jonesboro ( just south of Atlanta ). I dont believe any were brought here from as far as the Florida state line, but I can check the onsite database here at Andersonville for post war burials if you send me a name of those your searching for. Kevin The sound of FREEDOM is something you will never hear.......until its gone. ( UNKNOWN ) Please visit my website dedicated to those Americans who were imprisoned and died in captivity while in the service to our country Kevin Frye Local Andersonville Historian / National Park Service Volunteer http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Anne Center" <lacenter@comcast.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Deaths at Andersonville > Thanks for the national cemetery link Alice. > Lee Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alice J. Gayley" <agayley@dgs.dgsys.com> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Deaths at Andersonville > > > > Saralie, > > > > When the national cemeteries were created, the men who died > > in the field were usually reburied in the one closest to > > where they were. I would say that is highly unlikely > > (possible, but not probable) that a soldier would have been > > transported from Florida to Arlington when four national > > cemeteries were created in Florida. It is also possible > > that when his family was notified of his death, they paid to > > have him transported back to his home. > > > > Here is the link to the Veteran's Affairs' list of > > cemeteries. There are four listed for Florida and they have > > indexes of the men buried there. > > > > http://www.interment.net/us/nat/veterans.htm > > > > Hope this helps, > > Alice Gayley > > > > Caitanya wrote: > > > This is a very helpful list, thank you for posting it. Does anyone know > where these men would have been buried if they died in a hospital in > Jacksonville, Fl? Since their names would be known, would they have > received War Dept tombstones when those started being placed? Would they > have been moved back to Arlington etc? > > > > > > Thanks, Saralie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Elaine Rathmann" <beckoncall3@mchsi.com> > > > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:12 AM > > > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Deaths at Andersonville > > > > > > > > > > > >>I was asked by Sharyl Ferrall to forward this to the list.~~Elaine > > >> > > >>Transcribed by Sharyl Ferrall from an original New York Herald, June > 26, > > >>1865. > > >> > > >>Hilton Head, S.C., > > >>June 18, 1865. > > >>To the editor of the Herald. > > >>Enclosed I send you a list of deaths occurring at the hospital in > > >>Jacksonville, Fla., among prisoners from Andersonville, Ga. It was > > >>impossible for me to obtain information of the residence of these men in > > >>order to notify their friends. You will, I have no doubt, confer a > lasting > > >>favor upon such by publishing this list. I am, very respectfully, your > > >>obedient servant, > > >>O.T. Bundy, Jr. Assistant Surgeon, One Hundred and Forty-fourth New > York. > > >> > > >>James M. French, I, 111th Illinois > > >>John Hampton, D, 3d Illinois cavalry > > >>William Clayton, H, 169th New York > > >>Augustus P. Miller, B, 100th New York > > >>Levi Coon, B. 5th Michigan cavalry > > >>Jasper Cheesman, B. 15th Illinois > > >>James Bartlett, A, 1st Massachusetts heavy artillery > > >>J.P. King, K, 72d Ohio > > >>A. Hunt, E, 9th Virginia cavalry > > >>M.D. Malone, C. 42d Illinois > > >>Barton Childs, K, 8th Michigan cavalry > > >>M. Langley, K, 53d Ohio > > >>Edwin Thompson, A, 14th Illinois > > >>John Adelspuyer, D. 64th Ohio > > >>R.C. Spell, E, 9th Indiana cavalry > > >>Corp Christian Bowers, B, 72d Ohio > > >>Sergt Spencer Dibble, G, 8th Michigan cavalry > > >>Geo C. Reed, G, 9th Michigan cavalry > > >>Chas B. Ritold, H, 153d Ohio > > >>John Wallace, E, 122d Ohio > > >>Sergt John A. Caruthers, M, 6th Indiana cavalry > > >>John B. Spencer, H, 3d Michigan > > >>James Parish, H, 114th Illinois > > >>H.L. Beaty, I, 10th Indiana cavalry > > >>Thos Kochler, H, 7th Illinois > > >>Corp J.T. Hunter, M, 8th Michigan cavalry > > >>Sergt Wm. H. Hart, E, 61st Illinois > > >>Daniel Freedly, F, 14th Virginia > > >>James Linville, F, 14th Illinois > > >>J.A. Bucher, C, 20th Indiana > > >>Isaac Chenning, L, 13th Indiana cavalry > > >>Edward Rogers, F, 92d Illinois > > >>Elvin Reed, K, 13th Illinois > > >>Jas C. Barr, H, 177th Ohio > > >>Ira Packard, [illegible], 18th Michigan > > >>W.R. Adam, D, 57th Indiana > > >>Richard Robbins, C, 61st Illinois > > >>Sergt William Close, F, 14th, Illinois > > >>Chas Vanhorn, B, 135th Ohio > > >>Roscoe Trevett, G, 1st Maine heavy artillery > > >>William Buck, A, 114th Illinois > > >>Richard Hawk, K, 1st New Jersey cavalry > > >>John O'Neil, F, 7th Pennsylvania cavalry > > >>William Regan, B, 7th Tennessee cavalry > > >>Samuel Potter, United States Marine corps > > >>Elias Williams, M, 16th Illinois > > >>Sergt Thos V. Meeker, G, 79th Illinois > > >> > > > > > > -- > > Pennsylvania in the Civil War > > http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > > unsubscribe > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe >

I don't suppose a HADLEY might have been brought in from Atlanta, GA.? I am hunting William Bostic HADLEY d. 14 August 1864 in GA., 10th Texas Infantry Co. C. Thank you, Vickye White Rt. 1 Box 96 3477 N. FM 1212 Stanton, TX 79782 Please visit my website: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Park/2777/footstepsbackintime.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcottle/ Michelle's Website: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Park/2447/mainpage.html "Patriotism means to stand by the country, it does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official..." Theodore Roosevelt --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 07/18/03

The soldiers in the old print/painting are wearing red kepis/forage caps. The epaulettes and pants are also red. The jackets, some short & some long, are blue. They are also attired in white "gaiters." Found a signature under the old matting -- Alfred-Emile Gaubault. Online research tells us he was a French Painter, who died in the 1880s & who specialized in military scenes. So, we may be looking at a French unit in Algeria. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

"Alice J. Gayley" wrote: > > The site has a lot of good information on "all things" > Zouave, including a section called "The Zouave Craze" which > includes a picture of an officer of the 5th with epaulettes. ---------------------- Ahh, those are shoulder straps rather than epaulettes. Epaulettes are those fancy do-jobbers that look like hair brushes with a bunch of little ropes for the bristles. ---------------------- NPeters102@aol.com wrote: > > During your research has anyone came across a Zouave/Chasseur regiment in > > which officers & enlisted men both wore uniforms with epaulettes? ----------------------- In "Uniforms of the Civil War" by Francis A. Lord & Arthur Wise (Thomas Yoseloff, Cranbury NJ, 1970) there's a photo of Corporal Jacob T. Shriner, Co G, 83rd PA Inf., in a "Chasseur de Vincennes" uniform. He's wearing them. Short jacket has a single row of several buttons down to the waist; bottom of jacket appears to extend to top of thighs. Looks close fitting, as opposed to the baggy pants (baggy, but not puffy like some Zouaves). Hat's a shako with plume. As an aside, the uniforms were imported from France and were made for Frenchmen, and too small for most of the Pennsylvanians. They turned them in before leaving for the Peninsular in 1862. Dennis

In a message dated 7/24/03 6:25:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fran@ees.eesc.com writes: It's not really about the battle - the entire campaign, from Lee's army crossing the Potomac to McClellan's "pursuit", is covered in less than 35 pages. McPherson concentrates on _why_ Antietam is significant and a turning point, with the bulk of the book (156pp plus notes) discussing the military, political, and diplomatic events before and after the battle. Dennis: Thank you for the review. Saved me some money. That's one I can cross off my list of need-to-reads. Am presently looking for Priest's book on South Mountain. In due time... Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

NPeters102@aol.com wrote: > > James McPherson recently wrote a small book on the battle but I'm > unable to comment, since I have yet to read it. ------------------------ Hi Mike, It's not really about the battle - the entire campaign, from Lee's army crossing the Potomac to McClellan's "pursuit", is covered in less than 35 pages. McPherson concentrates on _why_ Antietam is significant and a turning point, with the bulk of the book (156pp plus notes) discussing the military, political, and diplomatic events before and after the battle. Dennis

Edith,    In my opinion the best bbok by far concerning Antietam/ Sharpsburg is "Landscape Turned Red" by Stephen W. Sears, ISBN0-89919-172-X.    There are also hundreds of websites on the subject, my suggestion is use "Google" search engine. Below are a few of the site links.                            Marc F. Campbell <A HREF="http://www2.cr.nps.gov/abpp/battles/bycampgn.htm">Civil War Battle Summaries by Campaign</A>  <A HREF="http://www.ehistory.com/uscw/library/or/index.cfm">Official Records - Official Records</A>   <A HREF="http://www.nps.gov/anti/home.htm">Antietam National Park Home Page</A>  <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/3680/cw/cw.html">Civil War Rosters - All States</A> <A HREF="http://www.nps.gov/anti/pphtml/maps.html">Antietam National Battlefield (NPS) - Maps</A>  <A HREF="http://www.marylandmemories.org/">Hagerstown - Washington County, Convention & Visitors Bureau</A> <A HREF="http://www.cisnet.com/~ralcorn/ANTIETAM.HTM">Antietam National Battlefield</A> <A HREF="http://www.nps.gov/anti/artilery.htm">Artillery at Antietam</A> 

In a message dated 07/23/2003 3:06:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mocsa@earthlink.net writes: > ? For example, except for the original States, territories were obtained > from funds and > treaties of the Federal government. Also what right of sovereignty did > Tennessee, Mississippi or Missouri have ? They never had > sovereignty before they were admitted into the Union. (but the original > colonies and Texas did--that's another argument). These territories were bought with tax monies, and these tax monies were from the people of the original Colonies and Texas. How are these Territories not equal with the original colonies once they become a state? The original Colonies and Texas, WERE the government, Federal or otherwise. From the DOI.... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. (Great article below) CMF From: SECESSION.NET Creating a worldwide Secession Network based on principles of: Right to Secede - Community-Based Secession - Libertarian/Decentralist Political Processes - Nonviolent Secession and Institutions PRIMACY OF THE RIGHT TO SECEDE The primary political right of the individual and of political communities must be to secede from any larger political entity, whether they were born into it, were forced to join it, or voluntarily joined it. If one denies or relinquishes that right, one is little more than a slave--and no agreement to become a slave can be legally or morally binding. Secession of individuals and communities does not have to mean war and violence. It should be a natural evolutionary feature of all political entities. Large, multi-national nation states were created by military conquest of smaller independent communities, tribes and nations. Individuals today have little control over their local communities, most of which have become mere administrative units of large, distant, oppressive nation states. Government and special interest confiscation of communal and private land has further muddied the territorial basis of many communities. In the last 50 years the largest and most powerful nation states have been building big super-national organizations like the United Nations, NATO, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the World Trade Organization to ensure that special interest-corporate-state-bureaucratic-military elites further concentrate their control. What some call "corporate globalization" is really government globalization in service of (mostly "First World") corporate and political elites. The world's large nation states are maintained through threatened and actual military violence against even perceived secessionists. Democratic welfare states bribe their citizens with unsustainable social welfare programs while they build up powerful and increasingly nuclear-armed militaries. Dictatorships dispense with social welfare bribes, sacrificing their people as they focus on military buildups. Only abolition of large multi-national nation states and their militaries will prevent destructive regional wars and eventual and inevitable, accidental or intentional, nuclear war. Carolyn Whenever government becomes destructive of these ends (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness), it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new government. Declaration of Independence of the American Colonies, 1776

In a message dated 7/24/03 11:04:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, eharding2@cox.net writes: One website you might be interested in is the C.S.A. Bond Page. It can give you descriptions of bonds and other information, including denominations, etc. http://www.csacurrency.com/csabond/ Ed: I found the bond! Many thanks. Now to see if I can find its worth. The one I saw, at an auction, was nicely framed & matted. I wanted to bid on it, but my ignorance yanked back the reins. Thanks again for the assist. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

Hi Mike, One website you might be interested in is the C.S.A. Bond Page. It can give you descriptions of bonds and other information, including denominations, etc. http://www.csacurrency.com/csabond/ Hope this might be of some help to you. Edward

When I was a young boy, I accompanied my father to a coin shop & remember the Confederate paper money on display in one of the cases. This weekend I saw something I have never seen -- a $500 Confederate bond. The document, dated 2 March 1863, is signed in ink by the Register of the Treasury, someone with the surname of Rose. There is a picture, located top middle, of someone, who I believe, may be Confederate Secretary of Treasury Memminger. But I may be wrong. Written on the bond is the following information: " ... the Sum of $500 with interest theron from date, at the rate of eight per cent per annum, payable semi-annually by the surrender of the annexed coupons." The bond/loan was to mature 1 July 1868. Can anyone tell me anything else about this bond? Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

Edith: One other book to add to your list is Phillip Thomas Tucker's "Burnside's Bridge." It tells about the struggles of 2 Georgia units -- 2nd & 20th -- as they attempt to hold their position along Antietam Creek. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

In a message dated 7/24/03 1:14:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mooreedith@aol.com writes: Or perhaps refer me to a web site or Library book? Edith: As Alice has already said, the most comprehensive book to date on Antietam/Sharpsburg is "Landscape Turned Red," by Stephen Sears. Might I also suggest "The Gleam of Bayonets," by James V. Murfin. After you have read those & have a better grasp of America's bloodiest day, I'd suggest you read The Antietam Campaign, a group of essays written by various Civil War scholars & edited by Gary Gallagher. James McPherson recently wrote a small book on the battle but I'm unable to comment, since I have yet to read it. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

Thanks for the national cemetery link Alice. Lee Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice J. Gayley" <agayley@dgs.dgsys.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Deaths at Andersonville > Saralie, > > When the national cemeteries were created, the men who died > in the field were usually reburied in the one closest to > where they were. I would say that is highly unlikely > (possible, but not probable) that a soldier would have been > transported from Florida to Arlington when four national > cemeteries were created in Florida. It is also possible > that when his family was notified of his death, they paid to > have him transported back to his home. > > Here is the link to the Veteran's Affairs' list of > cemeteries. There are four listed for Florida and they have > indexes of the men buried there. > > http://www.interment.net/us/nat/veterans.htm > > Hope this helps, > Alice Gayley > > Caitanya wrote: > > This is a very helpful list, thank you for posting it. Does anyone know where these men would have been buried if they died in a hospital in Jacksonville, Fl? Since their names would be known, would they have received War Dept tombstones when those started being placed? Would they have been moved back to Arlington etc? > > > > Thanks, Saralie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elaine Rathmann" <beckoncall3@mchsi.com> > > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:12 AM > > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Deaths at Andersonville > > > > > > > >>I was asked by Sharyl Ferrall to forward this to the list.~~Elaine > >> > >>Transcribed by Sharyl Ferrall from an original New York Herald, June 26, > >>1865. > >> > >>Hilton Head, S.C., > >>June 18, 1865. > >>To the editor of the Herald. > >>Enclosed I send you a list of deaths occurring at the hospital in > >>Jacksonville, Fla., among prisoners from Andersonville, Ga. It was > >>impossible for me to obtain information of the residence of these men in > >>order to notify their friends. You will, I have no doubt, confer a lasting > >>favor upon such by publishing this list. I am, very respectfully, your > >>obedient servant, > >>O.T. Bundy, Jr. Assistant Surgeon, One Hundred and Forty-fourth New York. > >> > >>James M. French, I, 111th Illinois > >>John Hampton, D, 3d Illinois cavalry > >>William Clayton, H, 169th New York > >>Augustus P. Miller, B, 100th New York > >>Levi Coon, B. 5th Michigan cavalry > >>Jasper Cheesman, B. 15th Illinois > >>James Bartlett, A, 1st Massachusetts heavy artillery > >>J.P. King, K, 72d Ohio > >>A. Hunt, E, 9th Virginia cavalry > >>M.D. Malone, C. 42d Illinois > >>Barton Childs, K, 8th Michigan cavalry > >>M. Langley, K, 53d Ohio > >>Edwin Thompson, A, 14th Illinois > >>John Adelspuyer, D. 64th Ohio > >>R.C. Spell, E, 9th Indiana cavalry > >>Corp Christian Bowers, B, 72d Ohio > >>Sergt Spencer Dibble, G, 8th Michigan cavalry > >>Geo C. Reed, G, 9th Michigan cavalry > >>Chas B. Ritold, H, 153d Ohio > >>John Wallace, E, 122d Ohio > >>Sergt John A. Caruthers, M, 6th Indiana cavalry > >>John B. Spencer, H, 3d Michigan > >>James Parish, H, 114th Illinois > >>H.L. Beaty, I, 10th Indiana cavalry > >>Thos Kochler, H, 7th Illinois > >>Corp J.T. Hunter, M, 8th Michigan cavalry > >>Sergt Wm. H. Hart, E, 61st Illinois > >>Daniel Freedly, F, 14th Virginia > >>James Linville, F, 14th Illinois > >>J.A. Bucher, C, 20th Indiana > >>Isaac Chenning, L, 13th Indiana cavalry > >>Edward Rogers, F, 92d Illinois > >>Elvin Reed, K, 13th Illinois > >>Jas C. Barr, H, 177th Ohio > >>Ira Packard, [illegible], 18th Michigan > >>W.R. Adam, D, 57th Indiana > >>Richard Robbins, C, 61st Illinois > >>Sergt William Close, F, 14th, Illinois > >>Chas Vanhorn, B, 135th Ohio > >>Roscoe Trevett, G, 1st Maine heavy artillery > >>William Buck, A, 114th Illinois > >>Richard Hawk, K, 1st New Jersey cavalry > >>John O'Neil, F, 7th Pennsylvania cavalry > >>William Regan, B, 7th Tennessee cavalry > >>Samuel Potter, United States Marine corps > >>Elias Williams, M, 16th Illinois > >>Sergt Thos V. Meeker, G, 79th Illinois > >> > > > -- > Pennsylvania in the Civil War > http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe >