In a message dated 08/03/2003 3:42:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eharding2@cox.net writes: > Jim, thanks for the best wishes. I've always said I'm American First, but > Southern by the Grace of God. And to that, I'll add "I'm Tarheel Born, and > Tarheel Bred, and when I die, I'll be Tarheel Dead!" Hi Edward, l also wish you the best of luck with your surgery...you will be in our thoughts. Just for you, we will try to behave. l am Tarheel Born and Tarheel Bred also..so was my father and his father and his father, and maybe even further back for all l know. We grew up in Western NC, in Topton, Andrews, and Marble. Once the mountains get in your blood, you can never get them out. Carolyn M. Woody-Fuller American by birth, Southern by the Grace of God!

am looking for researchers that are researching the 1st mississippi mounted rifles battn. a union battn in memphis tenn. 16th army corps. or members of the battn.

On 3 Aug 2003 at 12:01, Sharon Workman wrote: > Here's another dumb question from me: I have access to what > Ancestry.com and civilwardata.com have available on line - what they > call "service records." If I send for what the NARA calls Service > Records, will they contain just those few meager facts, or is it more > informative? Not at all a dumb question, before subscribing to the civil war data site I wondered the same thing. Neither site has the full compiled service records online. It is true that the compiled service records held by NARA do not contain genealogical information, but they do have more detailed information than is available online. For example, a compiled service record at NARA may contain a physical description of the soldier, these are not online. Also missing from the online data are detailed muster rolls which, while somewhat repetitive, are essential to tracing an individual soldier's military service. Also, do not forget carded medical records. These are not online and are not included in compiled service records, but help complete our understanding of an individual soldier's wartime experience. Regards, Harry _ H. Spencer Byfield sbyfield@genealogy-quest.com Genealogy Quest "Military records at reasonable prices" http://www.genealogy-quest.com/Military/index.html

Georgia, Especially us folks from Coffee County, Alabama <g> Jim -------Original Message------- From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 03, 2003 03:56:04 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Soldier Records At 01:16 PM 8/3/03 -0500, Jim Gilmer wrote: >OK, Edward, we know you'll stay out of trouble while getting that surgery. >We await your return. Hooray for the Old North State; I'm a Tar Heel bred >and a Tar Heel raised; but have been living in Alabama a long time. My wife >is native of South Alabama, and when I met her dad for the first time, and >told him where I was from, North Carolina, his exclamation was "Are you a >damn Yankee?". > >Jim LOL, Jim. I guess we do tend to think of anything north of Atlanta as being alarmingly close to New York. <g> Georgia in (South) Alabama ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe .

Jim, thanks for the best wishes. I've always said I'm American First, but Southern by the Grace of God. And to that, I'll add "I'm Tarheel Born, and Tarheel Bred, and when I die, I'll be Tarheel Dead!" Edward

Jim writes: "Hooray for the Old North State; I'm a Tar Heel bred and a Tar Heel raised" Jim, North Carolina is an especially beautiful place. One of my favorite places in these 50 states is the western part of NC, in the foothills of the mountains. I spent many happy vacations there hunting rubies and sapphires near Franklin, Macon County. Perfect climate! Sharon

At 01:16 PM 8/3/03 -0500, Jim Gilmer wrote: >OK, Edward, we know you'll stay out of trouble while getting that surgery. >We await your return. Hooray for the Old North State; I'm a Tar Heel bred >and a Tar Heel raised; but have been living in Alabama a long time. My wife >is native of South Alabama, and when I met her dad for the first time, and >told him where I was from, North Carolina, his exclamation was "Are you a >damn Yankee?". > >Jim LOL, Jim. I guess we do tend to think of anything north of Atlanta as being alarmingly close to New York. <g> Georgia in (South) Alabama

OK, Edward, we know you'll stay out of trouble while getting that surgery. We await your return. Hooray for the Old North State; I'm a Tar Heel bred and a Tar Heel raised; but have been living in Alabama a long time. My wife is native of South Alabama, and when I met her dad for the first time, and told him where I was from, North Carolina, his exclamation was "Are you a damn Yankee?". Jim -------Original Message------- From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:48:49 AM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Soldier Records Hi Sharon, When you send for Service Records, they could contain only small amounts of information on soldiers or even a lot. The State of North Carolina actually kept the best and most detailed records on Confederate soldiers than any other Southern State. I'm really not sure about Union Records as I had no family fighting for the North. Things that may be included in the Service File are muster roll information, letters of promotion, requests for clothing or even hay and oats for horses, commendations received, and other things. There is no real personal information in the Service Files. If by chance there was a Pension filed for and it was approved, the Pension File will contain more personal information. I have the memoirs my German GG Grandfather wrote before his death, and it was so interesting to match up things from his Service Record to what he wrote about his time in the War. There were pay vouchers, muster roll records, requisitions for clothing, letters from officers trying to get him promoted, etc., and all seemed to match things he wrote of. I also got the Service Record of his brother in law, my GG Uncle who was Major of the NC 61st. It also contained most of the usual stuff, but also had some letters he had written and requests for clothing for his men, and trust me, he wasn't a happy camper asking for it. You just never really know what you'll get until you get it. By the way, if anyone is interested, I made a few websites in honor of some of my ancestors and their companies. Beaufort Plow Boys http://cob61stregncst.homestead.com/ Clark Skirmishers http://cok41stnct.homestead.com/ Washington Grays http://thewashingtongrays.homestead.com/ Thanks for the best wishes and I look forward to returning, and even then, I'm planning on staying out of trouble!!!!!! Best regards, Edward ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe .

Hi Sharon, When you send for Service Records, they could contain only small amounts of information on soldiers or even a lot. The State of North Carolina actually kept the best and most detailed records on Confederate soldiers than any other Southern State. I'm really not sure about Union Records as I had no family fighting for the North. Things that may be included in the Service File are muster roll information, letters of promotion, requests for clothing or even hay and oats for horses, commendations received, and other things. There is no real personal information in the Service Files. If by chance there was a Pension filed for and it was approved, the Pension File will contain more personal information. I have the memoirs my German GG Grandfather wrote before his death, and it was so interesting to match up things from his Service Record to what he wrote about his time in the War. There were pay vouchers, muster roll records, requisitions for clothing, letters from officers trying to get him promoted, etc., and all seemed to match things he wrote of. I also got the Service Record of his brother in law, my GG Uncle who was Major of the NC 61st. It also contained most of the usual stuff, but also had some letters he had written and requests for clothing for his men, and trust me, he wasn't a happy camper asking for it. You just never really know what you'll get until you get it. By the way, if anyone is interested, I made a few websites in honor of some of my ancestors and their companies. Beaufort Plow Boys http://cob61stregncst.homestead.com/ Clark Skirmishers http://cok41stnct.homestead.com/ Washington Grays http://thewashingtongrays.homestead.com/ Thanks for the best wishes and I look forward to returning, and even then, I'm planning on staying out of trouble!!!!!! Best regards, Edward

Listers, Here's another dumb question from me: I have access to what Ancestry.com and civilwardata.com have available on line - what they call "service records." If I send for what the NARA calls Service Records, will they contain just those few meager facts, or is it more informative? Thanks. Sharon

Edward writes: "Hope all of you are doing well. I'll be offline for a week or two after today (Sunday) as I'm having surgery in the morning. Y'all take care and be good, and NO fighting while I'm gone!" Good luck to you in your surgery and recovery, and good luck to us in staying sweet and cordial. We'll try to avoid "those subjects" until your return. I know you wouldn't want to miss them. :>) Sharon

I was given the choice of giving them a credit card number which would be charged only when they found and sent my file. Electing to pay by check was going to delay and I am not a patient person. I didn't count the pages, but it was an impressive amount of information. It told me my soldier's wife's maiden name and gave enough other clues so that four hours of searching census data found her parents and siblings for me. As for the nearly religious refrain sung by genealogists "Document everything!" - this packet is the best "proof" of information I've ever seen anywhere. Only DNA could be better. I highly recommend sending for these pension files, when they are available. Sharon

Hi List, I thought I'd let y'all know about a place you can get records on soldiers other than NARA. I've used both this place and NARA, and I must say, I'd rather pay the extra to use Broadfoot Publishing Company. They have a fairly new microfilm and printing process when they give your request individual attention unlike NARA to get you the best copies possible. And, it normally only takes about a week to get the stuff. If anyone is interested, you can find their website at www.soldiersearch.com One other thing they do is to give 10% of the profits from this work to the SCV. Hope all of you are doing well. I'll be offline for a week or two after today (Sunday) as I'm having surgery in the morning. Y'all take care and be good, and NO fighting while I'm gone! I look forward to reading all the posts when I'm able to get back online. Edward

Dear friends, (Particularly those who have been working with me on a Universal Confederate Database - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/database.htm ) I lost two months worth of mail which includes most of the feedback I received on the database. If you sent me anything between 5/21/03 and 7/31/03, please see: http://webpages.charter.net/derickh/lostmail.htm Derick S. Hartshorn CF Connor Camp #849 Catawba Co. NC

Here are a few more details on John Taggart , 17th Mass. Code No: 12167 Grave No: 2167 Last Name: TAGGART First Name: JOHN Rank: PRIVATE Company: E Regiment: 17 State: MA Branch of Service: INFANTRY Date of Death: 6/19/1864 Cause of Death: DIARRHEA Remarks: JOHN TAGGERD, GRAVE 2067 [3] Reference*: p 22 [3]; p 312 [33] Place Captured: BATCHELDERS CR., NC Date Captured: 2/1/1864 Alternate Names: TAGGERD Status: DIED AT ANDERSONVILLE More Information Available: NO Please visit my website dedicated to those Americans who were imprisoned and died in captivity while in the service to our country Kevin Frye Local Andersonville Historian / National Park Service Volunteer http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gilmer" <jimgilmer@alaweb.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V03 #170 > The only John Taggart I could find on Ancestry.com who died as a POW, is > this soldier: > > John Taggart > > > Residence:Haverhill, MassachusettsOccupation:Shoemaker > Service Record: > Enlisted as a Private on 10 July 1861 at the age of 30 > Enlisted in Company E, 17th Infantry Regiment Massachusetts on 22 July 1861. > POW on 01 February 1864 at Batchelder's Creek, NC > Died of disease while a POW Company E, 17th Infantry Regiment Massachusetts > on 19 June 1864 in Andersonville, GA > > > Jim Gilmer > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 02, 2003 08:29:31 PM > To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V03 #170 > > Hi, I sure hope someone can give me some ideas on where I can search for the > info I'm listing below, I have no idea on what to do. > > John Taggart, born 1843 was in the Union Army, it has been pasted down that > he died in a Southern prison, now his parents Robert Taggart and wife > Elizabeth > received a pension under John pension file, Now Robert and Elizabeth lived > in > Canada untill about 1881 when they moved to MI in Grindstone city wnere > Robert opened a Weaving shop or maybe worked in one, Now Elizabeth died in > Port > Austin in Huron county MI and Robert lived with his son Clark in Antrim MI > and > later moved back to Listowel, Perth county Ontario wher he died in 1911. > Now his son John was born in Huron county Ontario, so were not sure if > John joint the war in Canada, MI or PA. We have no idea on how to find out > to > search for Johns Union record or maybe there is something under his fathers > name, Robert Taggart. I'm realy lost. > > Sue > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > > . > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe >

There are several John Taggarts listed in the PA Archives Civil War Index Cards at: http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp?view=ArchiveIndexes&ArchiveID=17 Alice Gayley Okla1915@aol.com wrote: > Hi, I sure hope someone can give me some ideas on where I can search for the > info I'm listing below, I have no idea on what to do. > > John Taggart, born 1843 was in the Union Army, it has been pasted down that > he died in a Southern prison, now his parents Robert Taggart and wife Elizabeth > received a pension under John pension file, Now Robert and Elizabeth lived in > Canada untill about 1881 when they moved to MI in Grindstone city wnere > Robert opened a Weaving shop or maybe worked in one, Now Elizabeth died in Port > Austin in Huron county MI and Robert lived with his son Clark in Antrim MI and > later moved back to Listowel, Perth county Ontario wher he died in 1911. > Now his son John was born in Huron county Ontario, so were not sure if > John joint the war in Canada, MI or PA. We have no idea on how to find out to > search for Johns Union record or maybe there is something under his fathers > name, Robert Taggart. I'm realy lost. > > Sue > -- Pennsylvania in the Civil War http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/

I recently received a Union pension record for a shirt-tail relative of mine. You have to give them a credit card number at the time you place your order. They charge to it only if they find a record of the relative you're seeking. In my case, I submitted the request in early March. Within about two weeks, I'd received a notice that they couldn't find a pension record, but I received no response to the military record. About the third week of June, I called NARA and managed to get hold of Tina Robinson. I gave her the information I had, along with the fact that they might have to be a little artistic in the search for this relative's last name, which was Ratigan. His death record in Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie County, Iowa, reads "Roddigan." You can imagine my surprise when, 90 minutes later, I get a call from her saying "We found it!" I was even more surprised to receive the entire pension record (102 pages of it) six days later by priority mail, and this included a weekend. I managed to share this record with some of the descendants of his family in Georgia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <TCHSGIRL58@aol.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:38 AM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Pension Files for Union Soldiers > Sharon, > 39 days is fantastic. I am in the process of filling out forms 85 and 86 for > my husband's grgrandfather. Did you give NARA a credit card number as > requested on the form or wait until they notified you that they found the files and > then sent a check? I am in a quandary as to how to proceed. Thank you. > > Betty > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

I think yor John Taggert, according to The Roll of Honor is buried In GA John Taggert, Private Co "E" 17th Mass. Died June 19, 1864 grave No 2167 Andersonville Cemetery Georgia Hope this is a help Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Gilmer" <jimgilmer@alaweb.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V03 #170 > The only John Taggart I could find on Ancestry.com who died as a POW, is > this soldier: > > John Taggart > > > Residence:Haverhill, MassachusettsOccupation:Shoemaker > Service Record: > Enlisted as a Private on 10 July 1861 at the age of 30 > Enlisted in Company E, 17th Infantry Regiment Massachusetts on 22 July 1861. > POW on 01 February 1864 at Batchelder's Creek, NC > Died of disease while a POW Company E, 17th Infantry Regiment Massachusetts > on 19 June 1864 in Andersonville, GA > > > Jim Gilmer > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, August 02, 2003 08:29:31 PM > To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V03 #170 > > Hi, I sure hope someone can give me some ideas on where I can search for the > info I'm listing below, I have no idea on what to do. > > John Taggart, born 1843 was in the Union Army, it has been pasted down that > he died in a Southern prison, now his parents Robert Taggart and wife > Elizabeth > received a pension under John pension file, Now Robert and Elizabeth lived > in > Canada untill about 1881 when they moved to MI in Grindstone city wnere > Robert opened a Weaving shop or maybe worked in one, Now Elizabeth died in > Port > Austin in Huron county MI and Robert lived with his son Clark in Antrim MI > and > later moved back to Listowel, Perth county Ontario wher he died in 1911. > Now his son John was born in Huron county Ontario, so were not sure if > John joint the war in Canada, MI or PA. We have no idea on how to find out > to > search for Johns Union record or maybe there is something under his fathers > name, Robert Taggart. I'm realy lost. > > Sue > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > > . > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

Sharon, 39 days is fantastic. I am in the process of filling out forms 85 and 86 for my husband's grgrandfather. Did you give NARA a credit card number as requested on the form or wait until they notified you that they found the files and then sent a check? I am in a quandary as to how to proceed. Thank you. Betty

Hi List, l am looking for information on Charles Mason Emerson, he was a "volunteer" in the Virginia 8th, Company D or G. He supposedly deserted, and became an informer for the Union. l can't remember where l read this, but think it was in one of the Civil War books l have. l had made a note of it, and just ran across it today. Any help appreciated on this. Carolyn