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    1. [CIVIL-WAR] Re: G. W. Snider lookup Thanks Kevin
    2. Kevin thanks for the lookup. We did get some records from the National Archives. They were actually a gold mine for us in information. We did not get parents names etc. We had checked military records on the form. The information we received shocked most family members. We received verbatim court records where the third wife was trying to get his divorce from her set aside and her share of his pension. His first two wives had died and the family thought his fourth wife who outlived him was his third. Her pops up this lady in the middle of his military records. We lived close to where the district court was where the court action took place so we went there to look up their records, as the records just kind of stopped in mid stream. There were pages of testimony and months of records from the prosecution. But none from the defense. No one in the court offices could find any other records. It did appear that the case kept being continued from one term of the court to the next. So, everyone assumes the case was just eventually dropped, and no note of that action was placed in the records. We think we now know why his daughter burned lots of family pictures and records. Other family records were lost in a flood in the early 1900s. Our jaws sure did drop open, when we saw all the court testimony. It did make for fascinating reading. Kevin, again, thanks so much for doing a lookup. This man continues to be our brick wall. But, now and then pieces crumble. When we started this about all we knew was his name. We now have the fascinating military records and through census information and finding some letters, know his mothers first name, and some of the names of his step-siblings. Nadine

    08/31/2003 05:03:30
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. Gee Guys, don't get mad...the war's over.

    08/31/2003 03:49:09
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] NC Troops
    2. Roster of 1015 men who served in the 6th North Carolina Cavalry, Confederate States Army Principal place of recruitment: Company A - Johnson County, Tennessee, and a few from Watauga County, North Carolina Company B - Ashe County, NC Company C - Raised in Henderson County, NC Company D - Raised in Henderson County, NC Company E - Principally recruited in Macon County, NC. Company F - Primarily raised in Clay County, NC. Company G(1st) - Johnson and Sullivan County, Tennessee Company G(2nd) - From Macon County, NC Company H - Burke County, NC Company I - Madison County, NC Company K - Mitchell County, NC

    08/31/2003 03:35:05
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] NC Troops
    2. In a message dated 8/31/03 9:05:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eharding2@cox.net writes: Here's some information I hope might be of help. There were a number of David Wilson's from North Carolina so it'll take some time going through them. Ed: Thanks a bunch! Great information on the soldiers of Caswell County. Something that may help in the search for David Wilson is that I'm told he was very young, under 18 years of age. May have been in the 14-16 range. War is definitely hell! I look forward to continuing this discussion. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

    08/31/2003 03:11:53
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] NC Troops
    2. Edward Harding
    3. Mike, Here's some information I hope might be of help. There were a number of David Wilson's from North Carolina so it'll take some time going through them. I also found some other Wilson's from Caswell County in the same company as L.J. Wilson. -------------------------------------------------------- North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster Volume II Cavalry Page 283 Co. B, 59th Regiment N.C.T. (4th Regt N.C. Cavalry) WILSON, L.J., Private Enlisted in Caswell County July 8, 1862 for the war. Admitted to hospital at Richmond, Va., February 10, 1864 with "epilepsia" and returned to duty March 15, 1864. Paroled at Raleigh, N.C. May 13, 1865. ------------------------------------------------------- North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster Volume II Cavalry Page 283 Co. B, 59th Regiment N.C.T. (4th Regt N.C. Cavalry) WILSON, JORDAN, Private Enlisted in Caswell County at age 25, July 8, 1862 for the war. Present or accounted for through August 1864. -------------------------------------------------------- North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster Volume II Cavalry Page 284 Co. B, 59th Regiment N.C.T. (4th Regt. N.C. Cavalry) WILSON, THOMAS A., Private Enlisted in Caswell County at age 33, July 8, 1862 for the war. Mustered in as 1st Sergeant and reduced to ranks November-December 1863. Present or accounted for through October 1864. ------------------------------------------------------- North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster Volume IV Infantry Page 392 Co. K, 6th Regiment N.C. State Troops WILSON, ROBERT THOMAS, Private Born in Alamance County where he resided prior to enlisting in Alamance County at age 20, June 21, 1861, for the war. Present or accounted for until paroled at Burkesville Junction, Virginia, April 14-17, 1865 ------------------------------------------------------- Hope this bit of information helps. Edward Harding Sons of Confederate Veterans North Carolina Division Genealogist

    08/31/2003 03:05:25
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] NC Troops
    2. In a message dated 8/31/03 8:07:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, derickh@charter.net writes: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/company.htm Derick: Thanks for the URL. Very informative! I found the following units that were made up of men from Caswell County: 5th NC Infantry, Company I 6th NC Infantry, Company H 13th NC Infantry, Company C 22nd NC Infantry, Company G 45th NC Infantry, Company I This will help! Hopefully, I can someday return your generous favor. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

    08/31/2003 02:54:42
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] NC Troops
    2. Derick Hartshorn
    3. The organization of the 6th is found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/company.htm The companies were as follows: 6th Reg. Co. A NC State Troops Mecklenburg 6th Reg. Co. B NC State Troops Orange 6th Reg. Co. C NC State Troops Orange 6th Reg. Co. D NC State Troops Burke 6th Reg. Co. E NC State Troops Burke/McDowell/Mitchell/Yancey 6th Reg. Co. F NC State Troops Alamance 6th Reg. Co. G NC State Troops Rowan 6th Reg. Co. H NC State Troops Caswell 6th Reg. Co. I NC State Troops Wake/Chatham 6th Reg. Co. K NC State Troops Alamance Unfortunately, Co. H had as the only Wilson, F.G., Private from Wake County. Perhaps it may have been another regiment. Please do a search on the above page. Derick S. Hartshorn, SCV Camp #849 Catawba Co., NC ----- Original Message ----- From: <NPeters102@aol.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] NC Troops > Can someone with access to NC Civil War references/records, please check for > units that were raised in & around Caswell County? I believe the 6th NC > Infantry is one such group. Am specifically looking for information on soldiers > Lorenzo Jordan Wilson, Robert T. Wilson & David Wilson. > > Thank you in advance for any information. I look forward to hearing from you. > > Sincerely, > > Mike Peters > npeters102@aol.com > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

    08/31/2003 02:06:30
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] NC Troops
    2. Can someone with access to NC Civil War references/records, please check for units that were raised in & around Caswell County? I believe the 6th NC Infantry is one such group. Am specifically looking for information on soldiers Lorenzo Jordan Wilson, Robert T. Wilson & David Wilson. Thank you in advance for any information. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

    08/31/2003 01:48:45
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Gittner's Brigade, Breckenridge's Division
    2. Alice J. Gayley
    3. No, Mike, I don't. Thanks for your help. Alice Mike Ruddy wrote: > Alice > The OR, CMH, SHSP are all silent on this unit. > The only thing I could find was this website which indicated a Gitner´s > Brigade in John Hunt Morgan´s Division: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gmfrontporch/civil.htm > Do you have a context? > Mike -- Pennsylvania in the Civil War http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/

    08/31/2003 01:43:40
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] Look up G. W. Snider
    2. In thinking about the (17) that is at the bottom of one of his muster sheets (or cards), I just cannot see how that could be his age. We have received his pension records and know that this is the correct person, because of family information. We have always had his birth date as 1844. This just has to be correct as we know his mother Matilda Snider (apparently a widow), married a Ruberson in Indiana in 1848. And, he had one son born in 1847 that G. W. always said was his younger brother. Someone thought that Joe Ruberson enlisted at the same time that G. W. did. But, I really don't think that is possible. We have received some family information about his later life and no mention is made of Civil War service. Plus he had a club foot, and doubt that they would have taken him. Nadine

    08/31/2003 12:41:46
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. akeegan
    3. that is one reason I will not take part in debates Aine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Geyer and Family." <aprildan@geyer.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman > I was merely making an analogy. You all need to find something better > to do than to pick an email apart. > Dan > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >

    08/31/2003 12:18:47
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. Daniel Geyer and Family.
    3. I was merely making an analogy. You all need to find something better to do than to pick an email apart. Dan

    08/31/2003 11:34:32
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. I don't really believe we can compare the Confederacy to Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. My father, by the way, was one of the boys on those islands. He was on Iwo Jima in the fighting for a hill called Suribachi.

    08/31/2003 11:00:15
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: Merrill's horse unit - soldiers name
    2. Kevin Frye
    3. Nadine, There are no POWS on record here from the mo. 2nd Co. I but these are Infantry. I checked by name and he is not listed as being here. As far as birthdates,,,who knows? Have you written the National archives? I hate to suggest them as the waiting can be forever and a bit of cost involved, but the records there sometimes have Mother and Father names as well as children and spouse. You can order the forms you need online at http://www.archives.gov/global_pages/inquire_form.html I wish I had more to tell. Kevin The sound of FREEDOM is something you will never hear.......until its gone. ( UNKNOWN ) Please visit my website dedicated to those Americans who were imprisoned and died in captivity while in the service to our country Kevin Frye Local Andersonville Historian / National Park Service Volunteer http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <TSNI843@aol.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: Merrill's horse unit - soldiers name > Kevin > > Thanks so much for the offer of a look up: > Soldier's name: George Washington Snider -- private > Company I (i) 2nd Regiment Missouri Volunteer Cavalry > > His unit was commonly known as Merrill's Horse unit. > > He enlisted on August 21st. 1862 > I know he enlisted at Missouri, but I can't read the town name. I may it > somewhere else, but can't find it now. > > He appears on CO. Mustter-out roll dates Nashville Tenn. Sept 19, 1865. > Remarks say was discharged Aug 21, 1865 by esp. term service, But one funny > note on the bottom of his muster out has (age17). > > We have his birth date as 1844. So this would indicate a different age. Are > we talking about two separate people? But, we know he was in this unit. > That information is on his tombstone and other pension records, etc. I do know > that his brother in law (Tyree) served in the same unit. > > Thanks so much for anything you might happen to find. > > Nadine > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe >

    08/31/2003 10:22:31
    1. RE: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. callard
    3. RIGHT ON, DAN !!!! Richard -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Geyer and Family. [mailto:aprildan@geyer.com] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:35 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman I was merely making an analogy. You all need to find something better to do than to pick an email apart. Dan ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet]

    08/31/2003 09:37:23
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] Re: Merrill's horse unit - soldiers name
    2. Kevin Thanks so much for the offer of a look up: Soldier's name: George Washington Snider -- private Company I (i) 2nd Regiment Missouri Volunteer Cavalry His unit was commonly known as Merrill's Horse unit. He enlisted on August 21st. 1862 I know he enlisted at Missouri, but I can't read the town name. I may it somewhere else, but can't find it now. He appears on CO. Mustter-out roll dates Nashville Tenn. Sept 19, 1865. Remarks say was discharged Aug 21, 1865 by esp. term service, But one funny note on the bottom of his muster out has (age17). We have his birth date as 1844. So this would indicate a different age. Are we talking about two separate people? But, we know he was in this unit. That information is on his tombstone and other pension records, etc. I do know that his brother in law (Tyree) served in the same unit. Thanks so much for anything you might happen to find. Nadine

    08/31/2003 09:24:41
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. Daniel Geyer and Family.
    3. Lincoln wanted to break the souths ability to wage war not only to stop the insurrection. When Sherman took Atlanta and Savannah he broke their ability to wage war by effectively destroying Georgia's economy. We did the same thing in europe and asia in WWII. We tried to limit the ability of Nazi Germany and Hiroheto Japan to wage war. But I can not disagree as to the hatred Sherman had for the people of South Carolina. As he marched to SC and Columbia in early 1865 the devastation was great, but in view of the destruction of property, the loss of life both to the Confederate and Federal armies, and the population at large was relatively light. According to his report surgeon DL Huntington puts the casualty rate at just under 1000. I believe as probably most historians of the Civil War that South Carolina and its people had the most bitter hatred for the US and it government and people than any other state in the Confederacy. Shermans march was indeed devastating and painful for most of the people in the 100 mile stretch that his troops covered. The ability for South Carolina to wage war and supply the war machine of Gen. Lee, Gen Johnson and others was defiantly stopped as many have given evidence to in letters and dairies of the conferate troops all over the south. Now you can argue that supplies were not in abundance before the loss of Atlanta, Savannah, Beaufort, and Columbia but with the mills, crops, warehouses, ammo dumps, and other necessities were sacked and destroyed they felt the loss. In retrospect we can all look at the hardships our ancestors suffered and felt during this time but the outcome will not change and the destruction can still be remembered. You can still visit the burnt district in Atlanta. The Bulwarks around Columbia. And the other sites and history of the march. Thanks Dan

    08/31/2003 08:29:33
    1. RE: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. callard
    3. OR THE UNION ! CAN WE QUIT FIGHTING THE CIVIL WAR? Richard Callard -----Original Message----- From: Fyodor45@aol.com [mailto:Fyodor45@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:00 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman I don't really believe we can compare the Confederacy to Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. My father, by the way, was one of the boys on those islands. He was on Iwo Jima in the fighting for a hill called Suribachi. ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Surfside Internet]

    08/31/2003 08:27:27
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. In a message dated 8/31/03 5:31:21 PM !!!First Boot!!!, aprildan@geyer.com writes: > We had no idea that the atomic age would > also bring about atomic radiation and death over the course of decades. > I do think that it would have been less "appealing" to Truman if they > knew of the other curse of the nuclear age. > Well, I suspect the idea of not seeing American "boys" dead on the beach might have overcome a lot of objections. <G> Eliz

    08/31/2003 07:58:33
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] William Tecumseh Sherman
    2. In a message dated 08/31/2003 9:14:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, aprildan@geyer.com writes: > And that result was the end of the war. By all > definitions the War ended when Sherman burned Atlantia(which he didn't > really do) Ok Dan, I am trying to understand your post, if the war ended, ("by all definitions"), when Sherman burned Atlanta, ("which he didn't really do"), why was Sherman so adamant about marching on to South Carolina to destory Columbia? Selena William Tecumseh Sherman If the question was asked, "Who was and still is the most hated and despised man in the history of Georgia" the response would be William Tecumseh Sherman. From the onset of hostilities in the Atlanta Campaign on May 6, 1864 and the March to the Sea ending two days before Christmas 1864 with him capturing Savannah, no one created more destruction. Prior to leaving Atlanta, he set fire to munitions factories, railroad yards, clothing mills, and other targets that could be resourceful to the Confederacy. Sherman never intended to burn the whole city, but the fire got out of hand and spread throughout the city. Wayne C. Bengston <<<<<So I guess we can say he did burn Atlanta, wheither he meant to or not.>> > S. Sherman’s March: Final Revenge By Frank Knapp, Jr. Sherman wrote; arguing for his plan. December 16 –“Indeed, with my present command I had expected, after reducing Savannah, instantly to march to Columbia, South Carolina, thence to Raleigh, and thence to report to you.”8 December 18 –“With Savannah in our possession, at some future time, if not now, we can punish South Carolina as she deserves…I do sincerely believe that the whole United States, north and south, would rejoice to have this army turned loose on South Carolina, to devastate that State… it would have a direct and immediate bearing on your campaign in Virginia.” Sherman received the change in orders12 and immediately wrote to Major General Halleck in Washington saying that he was now “free to make a broad swath through South and North Carolina”. “The truth is, the whole army is burning with an insatiable desire to wreak vengeance upon South Carolina. I almost tremble at her fate, but feel that she deserves all that seems in store for her ". 8. Report of Major General William T. Sherman. Millwood, NY: Kraus Reprint Company, 1977, p 281. 12. Report of Major General William T. Sherman. Millwood, NY: Kraus Reprint Company, 1977, p 288.

    08/31/2003 07:40:29