I think I entered the Seven Pines conversation trail at some midway point. My 3rd great grand-uncle, Edward Porter Alexander, wrote about it and included some personal commentary about a few of the wounded and killed. Excerpts are contained in an edited volume of his memoirs: Fighting for the Confederacy (pp. 83-89). Gary W. Gallagher, ed. U of N.C. Press, 1989. Carolyn Timmann -----Original Message----- From: CIVIL-WAR-D-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Dec 21, 2003 1:00 PM To: CIVIL-WAR-D@rootsweb.com Subject: CIVIL-WAR-D Digest V03 #266

Nancy, Thank you! I just looked at your website and got goose bumps. Thank you so much for putting my gg-grandfather's picture and information about him on your website. I will let everyone in my family know. Paula Paula Kelley Ward pward@stic.net "An odd thought strikes me...we shall receive no letters in the grave." - Samuel Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Nancy [mailto:nancybrister@i-55.com] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 11:15 AM To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Seven Pines Participants Page update Hi everyone, I'm slowly but surely adding the information so many of you shared. The holidays have slowed my progress a bit, but I believe I've entered all of the individual names and now I'll begin to work on the regiment list. Many of you didn't say if you wanted a link to your e-mail address or to your Civil War website, so I've placed a link for all and will wait to hear if you would prefer not to have it. If you'd rather not, just let me know and I'll remove it right away. Also, let me know, if you find any mistakes in your submission, (haste makes typos!). And, if you sent something to me and don't find it, it's lost in cyberspace, please try again! Hal Sharpe was kind enough to send a list of all the Confederate Regiments engaged at Seven Pines. I wonder if any of you know of a similar list of Union Regiments? Though my ancestors who participated in this battle fought on the Confederate side, this page was meant to honor all of the men who fought at Seven Pines.....just as I hope my newly found Illinois Union g-g-grandfather would be honored for the battles in which he engaged. I look forward to receiving more information from all of you. I really appreciate the family stories some of you included about your ancestor. Those are the kind of personal stories you won't find in a history book. It was my pleasure and honor to type them and place them on-line. www.thepastwhispers.com/Seven_Pines_participants Nancy P.S. Some of you sent me links to CW sites and I haven't forgotten, I'm going to make a Links page --- though it might be after the holidays!! :-) Nancy, researching: Baldridge, Cain, Courtney, Curtis, Carmichael, Dawkins, Doty, Garmon, Garrett, Hanon, Jackson, McCormick, Matthews, Osborne, Robertson, Sharp, Stampley, Stringer, Warren and more! ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe

Thanks Keith for the Information and Help..I certainly will check those areas very close. Merry Christmas Thomas T.

Hi everyone, I'm slowly but surely adding the information so many of you shared. The holidays have slowed my progress a bit, but I believe I've entered all of the individual names and now I'll begin to work on the regiment list. Many of you didn't say if you wanted a link to your e-mail address or to your Civil War website, so I've placed a link for all and will wait to hear if you would prefer not to have it. If you'd rather not, just let me know and I'll remove it right away. Also, let me know, if you find any mistakes in your submission, (haste makes typos!). And, if you sent something to me and don't find it, it's lost in cyberspace, please try again! Hal Sharpe was kind enough to send a list of all the Confederate Regiments engaged at Seven Pines. I wonder if any of you know of a similar list of Union Regiments? Though my ancestors who participated in this battle fought on the Confederate side, this page was meant to honor all of the men who fought at Seven Pines.....just as I hope my newly found Illinois Union g-g-grandfather would be honored for the battles in which he engaged. I look forward to receiving more information from all of you. I really appreciate the family stories some of you included about your ancestor. Those are the kind of personal stories you won't find in a history book. It was my pleasure and honor to type them and place them on-line. www.thepastwhispers.com/Seven_Pines_participants Nancy P.S. Some of you sent me links to CW sites and I haven't forgotten, I'm going to make a Links page --- though it might be after the holidays!! :-) Nancy, researching: Baldridge, Cain, Courtney, Curtis, Carmichael, Dawkins, Doty, Garmon, Garrett, Hanon, Jackson, McCormick, Matthews, Osborne, Robertson, Sharp, Stampley, Stringer, Warren and more!

Wishing all of you a wonderful holiday season and the very best in the coming year. Nancy Soldier's Christmas letters and holiday life at home during the war: Christmas in the Civil War www.thepastwhispers.com/Christmas_Civil_War Nancy, researching: Baldridge, Cain, Courtney, Curtis, Carmichael, Dawkins, Doty, Garmon, Garrett, Hanon, Jackson, McCormick, Matthews, Osborne, Robertson, Sharp, Stampley, Stringer, Warren and more! I am the Christmas Spirit www.geocities.com/twincousin2334/Christmas Yes, Virginia, There is a Santa Claus www.geocities.com/twincousin2334/Virginia A Cowboy's Christmas www.thepastwhispers.com/Cowboys_Christmas

Thomas, I'm beginning to think that you may want to shift your search to the area between Columbus and Iuka, MS. I say this, because the 37th doesn't "seem" to go to Holly Springs until they retreated from Hatchie's Bridge on Oct. 5th 1862 (I may be wrong), which is well after Needham Temples was hospitalized in late August to early September. I don't think the Hospital was there. I think that he would have been taken prisoner in Iuka or Corinth if the Hospital was there, as both fell to Union forces. So, Needham was probably sent to the Hospital before the battle of Iuka on Sept. 19, 1962. He probably never made it to camp Rogers with his unit. You may want to look in Fulton, Pontonoc, Ripley, or Oxford, MS. Those seem to be the next closest towns. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, Keith Bailey

Jim Many thanks again and I hope you find your lost grave

Thomas, You're welcome---and Merry Christmas to you also. I know the frustration of trying to find the gravesite of one's civil war soldier ancestor. The vast majority of confederate soldier's who were kia, mortally wounded, on the battlefield, were buried on the spot and their graves lost to posterity in a short time. There were some exceptions, but these were few and far between. Those who may have died in a civil war hospital may have been buried, in some instances with records of the burial. But I understand that one has to search the confederate hospital records at NARA, and to my knowledge that info is not on line. Maybe one of our fellow listers may have some knowledge of this. I searched for my great great grandfathers grave for several years. I think I have come as close to finding it as I'll ever get. See below for a recap of what I found this summer: Jim The primary purpose of our trip to this part of West Virginia was to follow the march my gg grandfather, Samuel Gilmore made August 21, 1864, the day he was kia while serving with Co I, 43rd Inf Regt, NC Troops, CSA, at the battle of Cameron's Depot, which is located about 2 miles from Charles Town, WV (see pic). This battle took place during the Shenandoah Valley Campaign from May thru September of 1864, with General Jubal Early as commander of the Confederate Forces, and General Phil Sheridan as commander of the Union Forces. The area involved, the Shenandoah Valley of WV, was important from both the Confederate and Union perspectives, as it lies only about 65 miles from Washington, about the same to Baltimore, and only a few miles to Maryland, across the Potomac River, and also close to the Pennsylvania border. It was the breadbasket for the northern part of the Confederacy, and the Baltimore and Ohio railroad ran right thru the valley south to lower Virginia, and north to Baltimore, Washington, and points north. The union and confederacy had battled over this valley since the early days of the war in 1861. This 1864 campaign resulted in the union forces driving the confederate forces out of the valley for good by late 1864. Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox in April, 1865, and confederate forces to the south and west had all surrendered by the end of May, 1865, thus ending the war. I had all the information about the battle of Cameron's Depot from the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion", and other researched information, to include an 1864 map of the area done by a topographical engineer with the Army of Northern Virginia, and used by the southern commanders at that time. This map had not only the towns and roads, but showed the location/names of all the landowners. Surprisingly, many of the roads today are exactly as they were in 1864, except they are paved. And, many of the old estates/manor houses still exist today (see pics of Harewood and Richwood). Also I have a copy of my gg grandfather's widow's application for a confederate pension, which describes in detail how he was killed, etc. My gg grandfather's unit camped at Bunker Hill the night of August 20th, and left there about 6:00 AM. They encountered a few union pickets at Middleway (or Smithfield), and encountered the main body of the Federal forces at Cameron's Station (train station on the B & O railway, about 2 miles west of the town of Charles Town, about 9:30AM. The confederates formed their battle line at "Richwood" plantation (see pic), and drove the Yankees back toward Charles Town, and by late that night, the Union forces had retreated to Halltown, which is just west of Harper's Ferry. My gg grandfather was probably mortally wounded at "Richwood", or close by, and he died that night from a gunshot wound to the lower abdomen. I really wanted to see if I could find a grave for him. From a microfiche copy of the NC Argus, Wadesboro, Anson County, NC, newspaper, dtd September 8, 1864, I found the report of his death in action, as well as the names and units of others in his regiment who were killed or mortally wounded that day August 21, 1864. In the Confederate section of Edge Hill Cemetery in Charles Town, I found the marked graves of all those listed in the newspaper report of above, except my gg grandfather. There are two CSA unknown markers there next to those killed and identified who were in my gg grandfather's unit. Most probably one of those graves is his (see pic). The gravestones were marked and placed by the Lee Memorial Association of Jefferson County in 1871, according to a large monument placed in the middle of the Confederate section of Edge Hill Cemetery, Charles Town, Jefferson County, WV. While in Charles Town, we also visited the Jefferson County Court House, built in 1853, and site of the trial of John Brown the abolitionist who tried to capture the Federal Arsenal at nearby Harper's Ferry, to arm the slaves, and hopefully create an armed slave rebellion against their masters. He was tried and convicted of treason and executed in Charles Town, all in a matter of a few days. By the way, Colonel Robert E. Lee, U. S. Army, was the commander of the forces who captured John Brown and his insurrectionists at Harper's Ferry. To years later, he would resign his commission in the United States Army, and become a General in the Confederate States Army. -------Original Message------- From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: 12/19/03 17:09:07 To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Camp Rogers JIM....Many Thanks for all your hard work trying to help me find my relative. Merry Christmas Thomas T. ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name

JIM....Many Thanks for all your hard work trying to help me find my relative. Merry Christmas Thomas T.

I am working on a history of the Trumbull Guards, Ohio Volunteer Infantry. They served from 1862 to July 1865 on Guard Duty at the supply depot in Gallipolis, Ohio during this time. I have some information from the Gallipolis, Ohio and Trumbull County, Ohio newspapers where they served at and came from. Also looking for a book that was supposedly written after the war entitled The Chronicles of the Guards, written by a man by the last name of Pheonix. Any information will be gladly appreciated! Mike Trowbridge

Thomas, The history of the 37th that I sent out to you, states that they were in northeast Mississippi at least thru the latter part of December 1862. You have to assume that Co E. Shubuta Guards was with their division all this time, absence any evidence to the contrary. Jim From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: 12/19/03 11:04:55 To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Camp Rogers Hello Jim, You say the 37th Infantry was in Ms during Oct 1862?...O. K... Do you know where the Co E Shubuta Guards were during August and September? According to his records that is the time he became Sick. Do you think that may say where He may have died? Thanks Thomas Temple ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe

Hello Jim, You say the 37th Infantry was in Ms during Oct 1862?...O. K... Do you know where the Co E Shubuta Guards were during August and September? According to his records that is the time he became Sick. Do you think that may say where He may have died? Thanks Thomas Temple

Jim, Thanks for the link. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim gilmer" <jimgilmer@charter.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: Fw: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Camp Rogers > > > The history of the 37th Ms Inf shows they were in Mississippi in Oct 1862. > > http://www.netpathway.com/%7Eccr/37th_history.html > > Jim >

Tom. I've seen nothing that showed the 37th MS in GA, but I do know many of the GA Reg.s went out that way and I do believe I saw something about the 2nd TX or 40th MS in GA before returning to Camp Rogers and area of MS. I'll have to double check on that. I would guess that it was possible that if supplies traveled by train, the train would have carried guards back and forth for protection. It would not be inconceivable to think that some of the 37th could have performed such a duty. A train at 20 mph is only about 12hrs travel from Dalton GA to MS, so your only looking at about 2 days travel ...who knows for sure. It they walked, then you have to ask why. We'll just have to keep digging for information. From what I've seen so far, I'm betting the location of Camp Rogers was on or very near the RR. Maybe it was mostly a check station or supply depot. Waterford well could be the location, but if your fellow went to a hospital, well need to determine when he was injured and the hospital he was sent, then if any transfers were made. He very well could have been sent rearward down the tracks or to a nearby town by wagon. I found another map that might be helpful. Go to: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gmdhtml/cwmhtml/cwmapTitles01.html and look for the map below. I cut and pasted the link, but it was very long and I'm not sure it will come through O.K.. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/S?ammem/gmd:@FILREQ(@field(TITLE+@od1([Map+of+the+southern+states,+including+rail+roads,+county+towns,+state+capitals,+county+roads,+the+southern+coast+Delaware+to+Texas,+showing+the+harbors,+inlets,+forts+and+position+of+blockading+ships+))+@FIELD(COLLID+cwmap)) Keith Bailey Gordon Co. GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tjtemple@aol.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Camp Rogers > Keith..Forgive me if I Have not answered your message....Yes, the Camp > Rogers was supposed to be in Marshall County....However, seems like it was only a > make shift type > camp as I cannot find anything for sure... Do You Have anything that may > show the 37th > Infantry in Georgia about that time frame??? > Thomas temple > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >

The history of the 37th Ms Inf shows they were in Mississippi in Oct 1862. http://www.netpathway.com/%7Eccr/37th_history.html Jim -------Original Message------- From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: 12/17/03 17:26:43 To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Camp Rogers Keith..Forgive me if I Have not answered your message....Yes, the Camp Rogers was supposed to be in Marshall County....However, seems like it was only a make shift type camp as I cannot find anything for sure... Do You Have anything that may show the 37th Infantry in Georgia about that time frame??? Thomas temple ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name

Keith..Forgive me if I Have not answered your message....Yes, the Camp Rogers was supposed to be in Marshall County....However, seems like it was only a make shift type camp as I cannot find anything for sure... Do You Have anything that may show the 37th Infantry in Georgia about that time frame??? Thomas temple

Can you tell me where do I go to find where my ancestor was listed in the Civil War. His name was Joseph Hall and the family lived in Indiana, so my guess was he enlisted from that State...................Dee > Nancy, > > Please include the following Stokes County, NC soldiers who died at Seven Pines: > > Company H, 22nd Regiment, NC Infantry - This company known as the "Stokes Boys" > was raised and enlisted in Stokes County, NC on June 01, 1861. > > Corn, John C., Pvt., KIA May 31, 1862 > Dodson, Samuel, Pvt., Wounded May 31, 1862, DOW July 23, 1862 > Hutcherson, Richard, Pvt., Wounded May 31, 1862, DOW June 05, 1862 > Martin, William H., Pvt., KIA May 31, 1862 > Ziglar, Joshua D., 2nd Lt., KIA May 31, 1862 > > Thank you very much, > > Ken > http://www.firstchoicepro.com/ken/civil_war.htm > KIA Stokes County, NC > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy" <nancybrister@i-55.com> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:58 PM > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Seven Pines Participants Page > > > > I'm the Administrator of the USCW Battle of Seven Pines Rootsweb list > > and I'm in the process of creating a page to honor the soldiers and > > regiments who fought in the Battle. If you had an ancestor or if you know > > of a soldier (Union or Confederate) or a regiment who participated in the > > Battle of Seven Pines, please let me know. Send as much or as little > > information as you'd like to contribute and I'll be happy to include it. > > This project is just beginning. I would appreciate any information you > > might be able to share with me! > > www.thepastwhispers.com/Seven_Pines_participants > > Nancy Brister > > > > Nancy, researching: > > 46th VA Inf; 12th MS Inf; 42nd GA Inf; Camp Chase Federal Prison > > www.thepastwhispers.com/Battle_of_Seven_Pines > > www.geocities.com/twincousin2334 & www.thepastwhispers.com > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name >

This is one place where one can find some information. http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: <annabellhall@comcast.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Seven Pines Participants Page > Can you tell me where do I go to find where my ancestor was listed in the Civil War. His name was Joseph Hall and the family lived in Indiana, so my guess was he enlisted from that State...................Dee > > Nancy, > > > > Please include the following Stokes County, NC soldiers who died at Seven Pines: > > > > Company H, 22nd Regiment, NC Infantry - This company known as the "Stokes Boys" > > was raised and enlisted in Stokes County, NC on June 01, 1861. > > > > Corn, John C., Pvt., KIA May 31, 1862 > > Dodson, Samuel, Pvt., Wounded May 31, 1862, DOW July 23, 1862 > > Hutcherson, Richard, Pvt., Wounded May 31, 1862, DOW June 05, 1862 > > Martin, William H., Pvt., KIA May 31, 1862 > > Ziglar, Joshua D., 2nd Lt., KIA May 31, 1862 > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > Ken > > http://www.firstchoicepro.com/ken/civil_war.htm > > KIA Stokes County, NC > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nancy" <nancybrister@i-55.com> > > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:58 PM > > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Seven Pines Participants Page > > > > > > > I'm the Administrator of the USCW Battle of Seven Pines Rootsweb list > > > and I'm in the process of creating a page to honor the soldiers and > > > regiments who fought in the Battle. If you had an ancestor or if you know > > > of a soldier (Union or Confederate) or a regiment who participated in the > > > Battle of Seven Pines, please let me know. Send as much or as little > > > information as you'd like to contribute and I'll be happy to include it. > > > This project is just beginning. I would appreciate any information you > > > might be able to share with me! > > > www.thepastwhispers.com/Seven_Pines_participants > > > Nancy Brister > > > > > > Nancy, researching: > > > 46th VA Inf; 12th MS Inf; 42nd GA Inf; Camp Chase Federal Prison > > > www.thepastwhispers.com/Battle_of_Seven_Pines > > > www.geocities.com/twincousin2334 & www.thepastwhispers.com > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >

Thanks Edward, i will try to find this book you mention..Maybe it holds the secret that I am looking for in finding the Grave. Thomas

Edward, Glad you are progressing along ok. Merry Christmas! Jim Gilmer in Alabama -------Original Message------- From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: 12/15/03 12:01:38 To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Something That May Help Hi List, For those of you who really want to take the time to find information about the War besides what's on the internet, I wanted to share with you one book I use a LOT for research. "The Civil War Day By Bay: An Almanac 1861-1865" by E.B. Long with Barbara Long, forward by Bruce Catton. ISBN 0-306-80255-4 This is a great book and can be found either in hardback or paperback at a good price. If you should run up on a copy, you might want to check it out. Thanks again for all the well wishes regarding my recent surgery. I see my doctor tomorrow and get my stitches out and all this surgical garb off. I'll probably be in another cast again for a while,but hopefully for not too long Hoping all of you are doing well. Edward ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name