Hi everyone, I've added more individuals and regiments. The reason there's such a difference in number between Union and Confederate Regiments is that Hal Sharpe kindly shared the Confederate Regiments at the Battle with me, but I'm doing searches in my spare time for the Union Regiments! Now that the holidays are winding down, I hope to have a little more time to devote to the searches for both regiments and individuals. I'm excited about an excellent contribution by Alice Gayley: "Letter Describing the Battle of Fair Oaks (Seven Pines) by Captain B. J. Reid of the 63rd Reg PA Volunteers" at: www.thepastwhispers.com/Seven_Pines_Captain_Reids_Letter.html Cap. Reid was very articulate and thorough in his description of the heat of this battle, if you had an ancestor at Seven Pines (Fair Oaks), you might want to read his letter. The main page is at: www.thepastwhispers.com/Seven_Pines_participants I have so much more to add, besides more names and regiments, I've been collecting pictures and information from several old books, etc. But, from now on, I will post most news of the site only to the Seven Pines e-mail list. Everyone's been very gracious, but I don't want to intrude any further on the time of the subscribers of the other lists, who may have no interest in the Seven Pines Battle! So, if you don't belong to the Rootsweb Seven Pines e-mail list, please bookmark the site and check back for additions. Thanks so much to all of you who have contributed names and information. Nancy To subscribe to the Seven Pines Mailing List, send a message with only the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to: USCW-SEVEN_PINES-L-request@rootsweb.com

I would like to Thank everyone who has helped me with this Uncle Jack and his uniform I am starting to think it is John Wakelin who was born in Lincoln , England , and this is clearing a few more things for me also , as to how and why the picture came to Australia , as I havent found my greatgrandmother arriveing , I now think she arrived with John and his picture and the lovely English china ..........Oh this is getting interesting Keith we have had another look at the picture .......... and no Ostrich plume in hat the hat looks to be flat top , broad brim , similar to the gondolier , the white ribbon appears to hang from the back of the hat it looks as though his arm is resting on " we think similar to a umbrella stand " his hat is on the top shelf while he has his hand resting on second shelf , closer look at his hand it may be what we call a " baton " ,for twirling in marching bands ..... and definetly no other markings except the word Lincoln on the shoulder apalet , his moustache is a very straight inverted V , and his hair is such a straight part right down the middle Thank you List Debbie Debbie @ dodo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003

Hello Edward, No, we live in south Alabama, although we are visiting in Florence SC and the Charlotte, NC area for the holidays presently. I am originally a NC native from the Charlotte area as a child, and then Harrisburg, NC as a youth. I just thought Derick might have posted his transcription to the web . I've gotten the history from several sources on the web; just wanted to see Derick's if it is posted. Regards, Jim Gilmer On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:42:47 -0500 "Edward Harding" <eharding2@cox.net> wrote: >Jim, > >If you live in North Carolina, you should be able to find >Clark's "North Carolina Regiments 1861-'65" in most >public libraries. If you're not in North Carolina or >your library doesn't have these books, please let me >know. I'd be glad to make a copy of the History of the >43rd Regiment and snail mail it to you. There is also a >pretty good Regimental History in "North Carolina Troops >1861-1865 A Roster." > >Edward > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from list mode, email >CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >and in the text area of the message, type only the word >unsubscribe >

Jim, If you live in North Carolina, you should be able to find Clark's "North Carolina Regiments 1861-'65" in most public libraries. If you're not in North Carolina or your library doesn't have these books, please let me know. I'd be glad to make a copy of the History of the 43rd Regiment and snail mail it to you. There is also a pretty good Regimental History in "North Carolina Troops 1861-1865 A Roster." Edward

Derick, Can you tell us if you have posted all those regiments that you have transcribed to the web? I am especially interested in viewing the regimental history of the 43rd Inf Regiment, NC Troops. Thanks, Jim Gilmer On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 16:24:25 -0500 "Derick Hartshorn" <derickh@charter.net> wrote: >I have transcribed the last pages of Walter Clark's North >Carolina Regiments >[Vol. 3:728-761] >This was the unit engaged in the last land battle east of >the Mississippi. > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/69th.htm >Enjoy > >--Derick > > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >To search our list archives since 1996, go to >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >and enter Civil-War in the list name >

Ed, Thanks so much. Like you, I have waited for a long time to see the completion of the NC Troops-A Roster. You are very fortunate to have the 15-volumes. A very difficult set to obtain. As I am able, I do what I am can. North Carolina is indeed fortunate to have as much reference material on its soldiers as it does. Best wishes, --Derick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Harding" <eharding2@cox.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] 69th Regiment - the Cherokee regiment > Derick, > > I wanted to commend you for a job very well done. Clark did an excellent job doing these books. I am hoping someday, the North Carolina State Archives will finally get the volumes of "North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster" completed. Currently, they have done Artillery, Cavalry, and Infantry (1st - 68th Regiments). I was very fortunate to find a complete set (up until now of these books and they have been a very valuable research tool. I also have the volumes of "Roster of N.C. Troops" by Moore which were printed back in 1882, and the volumes of books "North Carolina Regiments 1861-'65" by Clark. The books that Moore did are a good reference, and from what he had to work with and the times, he did a great job, but I've found numerous errors in them. One good example is my German GG Grandfather. Moore listed him as William H. Eberstien, Drum Major, from New Hanover County, NC. He was actually William H. von Eberstein, Sergeant-Major, from Beaufort Co., NC. > > I again commend you for all of your hard work, and I know it will be a very valuable research tool for many people. It's good folks like you who make the research for many of us on the list a lot easier, and we thank you Sir. If I can ever be of any assistance to you, please feel free to contact me anytime. > > Edward Harding > Washington, NC > eharding2@cox.net > http://thewashingtongrays.homestead.com/ > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >

Derick, I wanted to commend you for a job very well done. Clark did an excellent job doing these books. I am hoping someday, the North Carolina State Archives will finally get the volumes of "North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster" completed. Currently, they have done Artillery, Cavalry, and Infantry (1st - 68th Regiments). I was very fortunate to find a complete set (up until now of these books and they have been a very valuable research tool. I also have the volumes of "Roster of N.C. Troops" by Moore which were printed back in 1882, and the volumes of books "North Carolina Regiments 1861-'65" by Clark. The books that Moore did are a good reference, and from what he had to work with and the times, he did a great job, but I've found numerous errors in them. One good example is my German GG Grandfather. Moore listed him as William H. Eberstien, Drum Major, from New Hanover County, NC. He was actually William H. von Eberstein, Sergeant-Major, from Beaufort Co., NC. I again commend you for all of your hard work, and I know it will be a very valuable research tool for many people. It's good folks like you who make the research for many of us on the list a lot easier, and we thank you Sir. If I can ever be of any assistance to you, please feel free to contact me anytime. Edward Harding Washington, NC eharding2@cox.net http://thewashingtongrays.homestead.com/

I have transcribed the last pages of Walter Clark's North Carolina Regiments [Vol. 3:728-761] This was the unit engaged in the last land battle east of the Mississippi. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccatawb/69th.htm Enjoy --Derick

Hi Keith I just had another thought it could quiet possibly my nana's mothers brother John Wakelin b 1860 Tetford Lincoln, England if that picture according to the uniform was around 1881 that would make him aprox 20 yrs old , and I cant find any other records for him also put my frazzled brain down to xmas please ::)) Thank you Debbie Debbie @ dodo ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith d bailey" <kbailey@frontiernet.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] RE Help for Uniform Please > Debbie, > > I need to see more detail to know for sure. If you have a higher resolution > copy of the photo available to send in Email form, send one to me at > kbailey@frontiernet.net and I will try to help you identify the uniform. > Please include as much of the image as possible, even his face. A 200 dpi > resolution would probably work the best. > > Also, include more information on "uncle Jack" or the family he connects > with . > Keith Bailey > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "deb" <spare1@dodo.com.au> > To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 3:43 AM > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] RE Help for Uniform Please > > > > Good Evening List > > > > My first posting on this List , so I hope I am on the right List > , if not could someone steer me in the right direction Please > > > > I have a photo of a family relative " Uncle Jack " > > > > I am not sure of the uniform and which millitary it might have > been > > > > It is a Red jacket with white collar and white on the sleeves > > on the shoulder lapel is the word Lincoln > > on the hat which looks black , has a white ribbon > > in his hand looks like the top of a rideing crop > > if anyone could identify this uniform for me Please > > > > I have a picture of the uniform on my website > > http://www.angelfire.com/folk/passengerlists/uniform.html > > > > I Thank you > > Debbie > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003 > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > > unsubscribe > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003

Thank you List for the response I will post what little I know about " Uncle Jack" picture It is a very large wooden frame It looks like a painting possibly on silk unfortunatley no dates name etc on back of picture or inside frame the only history I know of the picture is that my Nana always called him Uncle Jack I beleive Uncle Jack to be either my Nana's fathers brother or possibly his brother the names associated are Richard ROBESON b 1826 United States , where I am not sure ,who his parents and siblings are , I havent been able to find as yet , Richard was a Stevedores Labourer ,according to 1881 Census Richard married Elizabeth ? I presume in England, as children all born in Middlesex , they have 5 children , 2 being boys Richard Henry Alfred Robeson b 1874 Harwick , England William C robeson b 1881 Middlesex , England Richard Henry Alfred Robeson is my greatgrandfather , who was a seaman and died in S.A with wife and children William C Robeson , I havenot been able to find any more information about William Richard Henry had a daughter Thelma ( my Nana ) who had this photo Nana always called him Uncle Jack , but that doesnt mean it to be his real name unfortunatley Nana passed away last year I am wondering if maybe this might be William Hopefully this might explain a bit more about the photo and eara and possibly narrow him down a bit more Thank you Debbie http://www.angelfire.com/folk/passengerlists/uniform.html Debbie @ dodo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003

Hi Bill I thank you for the response " Uncle Jack was a member of a militia, fraternal or circus band " I hadnt even thought of that I was presueming might have been American then also came across both UK and Canadian on the website . Uniform: scarlet; facings: yellow (to 1881), white (1881-1946), blue (1946-1960) I found this I think was the UK Lincoln site and now wondering if UK as my Nana;s uncle William was born in 1881 in Bromley England , and cant find any more information about him although Nana always called the picture Uncle Jack , doesnt really mean that was his real name The picture itself is a very large wooden frame when taken out of frame it acutually looks like might be a painting on silk ? I presume he might be her fathers brother ? or maybe her grandfathers brother ? Richard ROBESON b 1826 United States , where is U.S I dont know as yet . his occupation was a Stevesdore Labourer , he married Elizabeth ? I presume in England as Elizabeth was born in Middlesex , England they had 5 children , 2 being boys 1 Richard Henry Alfred Robeson b 1874 Harwick , England 2 William C Robeson b 1881 Bromley, Middlesex , England , no further information on William Richard Henry Alfred Robeson is my great grandfather , who was a seaman he married Marie Wakelin one of there daughters , my Nana ,Thelma had this framed picture , this is why I think it is possibly her Uncle , maybe it is William , but called Uncle Jack as this uniform does have whilte on collar and bottom of sleeves for the years 1881-1946 , I am starting to think more likely to be William b 1881 Thank you very much Debbie @ dodo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Glenna Jo Christen" <gwjchris@earthlink.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Re: Help for Uniform Please > > From: "deb" <spare1@dodo.com.au> > > I have a photo of a family relative "Uncle Jack" > > My first thought is that "Uncle Jack" was in the British or Canadian army during the last half of the nineteenth century. This does not look like a US military coat. The alternative is that Uncle Jack was a member of a militia, fraternal or circus band. > > Bill Christen > -- > gwjchris@earthlink.net > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003

In a message dated 12/27/2003 11:23:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, kbailey@frontiernet.net writes: what is it being supported on? In his hand, I don't think that is a riding crop, but it is probably a (can't think of the word).. Like a walking cane, but used when leading a march Swagger stick <G> The white ribbon is tickling my memory, just not hard enough for me to remember what it stands for <G> Eliz

Debbie, My first thought was that this was a British uniform possibly from Linclonshire, but being unfamiliar with some of the uniforms during the US civil war I wanted to see a better picture. I believe you may want to switch to the GreatWar list at rootsweb. I believe some of the folks on that list will be more knowledgeable on the subject of British uniforms. It is probably pre WW1, possibly before the Bore Wars of the 1890's, but like me and others on any list, they will know more than what the list's subject covers.. Be sure to ask about John Wakelin, someone may be able to find him in a Lincoln unit. Since you can't find anything on him, he may have been killed in a war. The style of hat you have in the picture brings to mind 2 things. The first is that the hat resembled a decorated beaverskin hat that was used by certain British soldiers in the 15-1700's, but the uniform is definitely from a newer era. I can't tell from the picture, but is that an Ostrich plume on the hat? and what is it being supported on? In his hand, I don't think that is a riding crop, but it is probably a (can't think of the word).. Like a walking cane, but used when leading a march. Also look at the mustache on Uncle Jack, this could be important. If I recall correctly, the British regulated who could wear a mustache. The white around the cuff of the sleeve probably determines rank. The Lincoln badge would have definitely depicted the Regiment he was in. I see nothing on his collar, but that is usually where the medal went which tells the use of his Regiment.... Cavalry, Engineer, Artillery, Infantry, etc. The second thought, is that it resembles a hat once used by sailors. I believe it is called a Pilots hat. Similar hats are used around the world. Think of a gondolier in Venice, IT. In the US Similar hats were used in the Navy and on Riverboats and Steamships at least until the 1840's, but they eventually changed to Barrets and such. I have also seen paintings of French fur traders in the late 1700's with similar hats and I believe the British navy used this style. The ribbon on the hat would have signified rank by color. I believe the Germans still used ribbons on sailors hats until around WW1, I've seen photos of German U-boaters with them. Look into your ancestor that was a Stevedore. If he worked in Shipping, then Uncle Jack may well have gotten a job with the British Navy. Keith Bailey My second though, ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb" <spare1@dodo.com.au> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] RE Help for Uniform Please > Hi Keith > I just had another thought > > it could quiet possibly my nana's mothers brother > > John Wakelin b 1860 Tetford Lincoln, England > > if that picture according to the uniform was around 1881 that would > make him aprox 20 yrs old , and I cant find any other records for him > also > > put my frazzled brain down to xmas please ::)) > Thank you Debbie >

Good Evening List My first posting on this List , so I hope I am on the right List , if not could someone steer me in the right direction Please I have a photo of a family relative " Uncle Jack " I am not sure of the uniform and which millitary it might have been It is a Red jacket with white collar and white on the sleeves on the shoulder lapel is the word Lincoln on the hat which looks black , has a white ribbon in his hand looks like the top of a rideing crop if anyone could identify this uniform for me Please I have a picture of the uniform on my website http://www.angelfire.com/folk/passengerlists/uniform.html I Thank you Debbie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003

> From: "deb" <spare1@dodo.com.au> > I have a photo of a family relative "Uncle Jack" My first thought is that "Uncle Jack" was in the British or Canadian army during the last half of the nineteenth century. This does not look like a US military coat. The alternative is that Uncle Jack was a member of a militia, fraternal or circus band. Bill Christen -- gwjchris@earthlink.net

Debbie, I need to see more detail to know for sure. If you have a higher resolution copy of the photo available to send in Email form, send one to me at kbailey@frontiernet.net and I will try to help you identify the uniform. Please include as much of the image as possible, even his face. A 200 dpi resolution would probably work the best. Also, include more information on "uncle Jack" or the family he connects with . Keith Bailey ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb" <spare1@dodo.com.au> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 3:43 AM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] RE Help for Uniform Please > Good Evening List > > My first posting on this List , so I hope I am on the right List , if not could someone steer me in the right direction Please > > I have a photo of a family relative " Uncle Jack " > > I am not sure of the uniform and which millitary it might have been > > It is a Red jacket with white collar and white on the sleeves > on the shoulder lapel is the word Lincoln > on the hat which looks black , has a white ribbon > in his hand looks like the top of a rideing crop > if anyone could identify this uniform for me Please > > I have a picture of the uniform on my website > http://www.angelfire.com/folk/passengerlists/uniform.html > > I Thank you > Debbie > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003 > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

Selena, Company A was organized in Iredell County and enlisted at Statesville on April 20, 1861, for twelve months service as Captain A.K. Simonton's Company, 52nd Regiment N.C. Volunteer Militia. The company was ordered to Fort Caswell where on May 29, 1861, it changed its enlistment period and enlisted for the war. Early in June, 1861, the company was moved to Camp Anderson and from there to Camp Hill, near Garysburg, Northampton County. There it was assigned to this regiment as Company A. After joining the regiment the company functioned as a part of the regiment, and its history is reported as a part of the regimental history. Company C was organized in Iredell County and enlisted at Statesville on June 7, 1861. It tendered its service to the state and was ordered to Camp Hill, near Garysburg, Northampton County, where it was assigned to this regiment as Company C and mustered in on July 2, 1861. After joining the regiment the company functioned as a part of the regiment, and its history is reported as a part of the regimental history. If you live in North Carolina, check your local library for the volumes of books titled "North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster." You can find information on both companies, including rosters with detailed information on each man in Volume IV, Infantry. Should you not live in North Carolina or have access to these books, please let me know. I'll be glad to make copies of the rosters of each company for you. If you would like for me to get you this information, please feel free to email me privately. I'll be glad to be of help. Edward Harding Washington, NC Sons of Confederate Veterans North Carolina Division Genealogist eharding2@cox.net

The 4th NC Inf was at the battle of Monacacy, along with the 43rd NC Inf, my gg grandfather, Samuel Gilmore's regiment. http://www.nps.gov/mono/mo_site_index.htm Jim -------Original Message------- From: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Date: 12/25/03 16:22:48 To: CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Saltillo Boys and Iredell Blues of NC Looking for information on the 4th NC, Co. C unit known as the Saltillo Boys and 4th NC Co. A unit known as the Iredell Blues. Thank you, Selena Goodin srg@conninc.com ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe

Looking for information on the 4th NC, Co. C unit known as the Saltillo Boys and 4th NC Co. A unit known as the Iredell Blues. Thank you, Selena Goodin srg@conninc.com

Carolyn, you wrote: I think I entered the Seven Pines conversation trail at some midway point. My 3rd great grand-uncle, Edward Porter Alexander, wrote about it and included some personal commentary about a few of the wounded and killed. Excerpts are contained in an edited volume of his memoirs: Fighting for the Confederacy (pp. 83-89). Gary W. Gallagher, ed. U of N.C. Press, 1989. Carolyn Timmann I would like to talk to you, as E.P. Alexander is in my family line also. I have a book he wrote that is signed by him, "The Saga of the South" , the Island Press, Ft. Myers Beach, Fla., 1965 and I have some excerpts (several pages of "The South And The Nation" also by the Island Press,1963. I also have a write up in one of the Civil War magazines, of E.P. Lawton's( believe this may have been the uncle of the the Edward you speak of) death during the civil war and his wife going to get his body brought home. Please email me at LDSED@aol.com. I am related through the Bassinger line whose daughter married E.P. Lawton. The Bassinger line descended from Peter Tondee of Savannah, of Revolutionary times. Thank you. Linda Snow Davis