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    1. Re: Spam Alert: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] advertising
    2. rjknauf
    3. Mike,...very well said,...I hope you also write books, magazine articles, whatever. You have a wonderful way with presenting words, phrases. I especially liked " strident", "bloody shirts", "somewhat sedated", and "stuck out on some genealogical limb"! Anyway, thanks for "minding the list". Jeannette

    01/01/2004 04:14:39
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] advertising
    2. rjknauf
    3. But, Dan, many times one doesn't want personal replies, but rather responses to list only...for various reasons, not least of which is if one doesn't recognize the sender's name/email address, one might delete it for fear of virus, etc. Besides belonging to a list usually means whatever info is sought and given may be beneficial to some other researcher out there who didn't even have that particular line of inquiry as yet. (:<))))) I know, I know, these statements probably didn't make much sense, but I know what i mean(:<)))

    01/01/2004 04:00:18
    1. Re: Spam Alert: Re: Spam Alert: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] advertising
    2. maggy
    3. To All, Happy New Year Everyone. May this year bring you all the answers to the geneology questions and blast through those brick walls we all hate being stuck behind. :) Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ruddy" <mpruddy@bellsouth.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: Spam Alert: Re: Spam Alert: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] advertising > The Civil War list is set up to autoreply to the list, as Dennis indicates, > to insure the thread is visible to all. > Of course one can easily direct an answer to one individual address, if the > answer is not meant for the list. > The guidelines for the list can be found at: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mruddy/guidline.htm > Their are pluses and minuses to each method of reply. > This list is a survivor of Indiana University's Maiser Server Crash a few > years ago and was kindly picked up by Rootsweb when Indiana U was forced to > eliminate its free genealogy lists after a SPAM attack. Although, like many > ofyou, I detest advertising splattered all over the place, neither am I > willing to spend the money required to maintain a server and the software > required to produce an ad-free list. Subscribed to this list are a lot of > people willing to do free lookups and help others new to Civil War genealogy > and so far as I can tell, as long as we keep the more strident wavers of the > bloody shirt somewhat sedated, the list is serves its intended purpose. > Subscription lists are an information exchange format for those who, > voluntarily wish to participate. Every rule, no matter how well-intensioned, > that restricts the information exchange is likely to exasperate or befuddle > those who help and those who need help. So far I have relied on my inate > belief that the majority of people are pleasant and willing to share > information and, if required, will respond to constructive criticism. It is > rare that when a reasonable request is made by the list owner, it not be > adhered to. At some point the list owner can (the force is with him) whiff a > would-be Darth Vader off the list. The are only a couple of instances where > this became necessary during the many years of this list. The best tool I > have is endless verbosity which eventually wears down even the most > fanatical adherent of this or that cause and eventually the list subsides > once again into doing what it does best. Sometimes, as now, it also helps > one's sanity to leaf through baptismal records in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico > sipping a Piña Colada under a palm tree......... > Best wishes to all for 2004 and for those of you stuck out on some > genealogical limb, may I paraphase a recent president: Mr. Civil War List, > tear down that wall! > Mike Ruddy > List maintenance Civil War > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

    01/01/2004 03:14:32
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Newspaper Articles
    2. Kennth Russeau
    3. SAD, Have a musket, " ball"! Ken.

    01/01/2004 03:06:09
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Confederate Soldiers Hospital Guide
    2. akeegan
    3. I maybe able to find your gggrandfather's place of burial if I knew his name and what state he served Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Vincent" <bv3235@charter.net> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: Fw: [CIVIL-WAR] Confederate Soldiers Hospital Guide > Would you have anything on the Union Soldiers Hospital, where he may have > gone when sick. My gggrandfather died in the Regt. Hospital in Youngs Point. > LA. March 4, 1863. I am trying to find where he may have been buried. I have > not been able to locate his burial, could someone give me some directions to > go on. Thank you. > Rowena Vincent > bv3235@charter.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy" <nancybrister@i-55.com> > To: <Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 2:55 PM > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Confederate Soldiers Hospital Guide > > > > This might be helpful to some of you who are trying to locate hospitals in > the Richmond area where Confederate soldiers were sent. It's from the > excellent website, "Richmond, Then and Now." Link at bottom. > > Nancy > > > > "Richmond Sentinel > > August 10, 1863 > > > > Soldier's Guide > > > > Apportionment of General Hospitals in Department of Henrico, showing to > which Hospital the Sick and Wounded of each State are sent: > > > > For the information of the friends of the sick and wounded soldiers, we > give below the different Hospitals in which the soldiers from each State are > placed, and their locations. It will be found accurate, as it has been > kindly furnished by a distinguished surgeon in authority: > > > > The soldiers from the States of Maryland, Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky > and Missouri, and placed in Chimborazo Hospital, situated at the East > terminus of Broad street. > > Those from North Carolina, in General Hospital No. 24, corner of Main and > 26th streets; and in 3d, 4th and 5th divisions, Winder Hospital, west > terminus of Cary street. > > Those from Georgia, will be found in 1st and 2d divisions, Winder > hospital, West terminus of Cary street; and in 2d and 3d divisions, Jackson > Hospital, near Hollywood Cemetery. > > Those from Alabama, at the Alabama Hospital, Church Hill, Franklin street; > and in 1st division, Howard's Grove Hospital, Mechanicsville turnpike. > > Those from Mississippi, in 2d division, Howard's Grove Hospital, > Mechanicsville turnpike. > > Those from South Carolina, in 1st division, Jackson Hospital, near > Hollywood Cemetery. > > Those from Louisiana, at the Louisiana Hospital, West end Broad street, > and in 4th division, Jackson Hospital, near Hollywood Cemetery. > > Those from Florida, in General Hospital No. 11, 19th street between Main > and Franklin. > > Those from Texas, at the Texas Hospital, Main street, near terminus of > City Railway. > > The following are Confederate hospitals, with their locations: General > Hospital No. 1, North terminus of 2d street; General Hospital No. 21, cor of > 25th and Cary streets; Henningson Hospital, Wall street; Samaritan Hospital, > Clay street, between 5th and 6th; Robertson Hospital, corner Main and 3d > streets; General Hospital No. 4, corner 10th and Marshall streets. > > The commissioned officers are to be found in Confederate Hospital No. 10, > corner of Main and 19th streets. > > Officers in private quarters, (Surgeon A. Y. P. Garnett,) Broad street, > between 9th and 10th. > > Wayside Hospital, General Hospital No. 12, corner of 19th and Franklin > streets, where soldiers can have their wants supplied without expense. > > Receiving Hospital, General Hospital No. 9, corner of 17th and Grace > streets. > > Prison Hospital, General Hospital No. 13, 20th street, between Main and > Franklin. > > In addition to the above, Wayside Hospitals established at Petersburg, > Danville, Farmville, Lynchburg, Charlottesville, Liberty, and Staunton, near > the railroad depots, at which sick and disabled soldiers may have their > wants supplied without expense." > > Taken from: > > http://www.thenandnow.bravepages.com/Soldiers-Guide.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

    01/01/2004 02:59:16
    1. Re: Spam Alert: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] advertising
    2. Mike Ruddy
    3. The Civil War list is set up to autoreply to the list, as Dennis indicates, to insure the thread is visible to all. Of course one can easily direct an answer to one individual address, if the answer is not meant for the list. The guidelines for the list can be found at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mruddy/guidline.htm Their are pluses and minuses to each method of reply. This list is a survivor of Indiana University's Maiser Server Crash a few years ago and was kindly picked up by Rootsweb when Indiana U was forced to eliminate its free genealogy lists after a SPAM attack. Although, like many ofyou, I detest advertising splattered all over the place, neither am I willing to spend the money required to maintain a server and the software required to produce an ad-free list. Subscribed to this list are a lot of people willing to do free lookups and help others new to Civil War genealogy and so far as I can tell, as long as we keep the more strident wavers of the bloody shirt somewhat sedated, the list is serves its intended purpose. Subscription lists are an information exchange format for those who, voluntarily wish to participate. Every rule, no matter how well-intensioned, that restricts the information exchange is likely to exasperate or befuddle those who help and those who need help. So far I have relied on my inate belief that the majority of people are pleasant and willing to share information and, if required, will respond to constructive criticism. It is rare that when a reasonable request is made by the list owner, it not be adhered to. At some point the list owner can (the force is with him) whiff a would-be Darth Vader off the list. The are only a couple of instances where this became necessary during the many years of this list. The best tool I have is endless verbosity which eventually wears down even the most fanatical adherent of this or that cause and eventually the list subsides once again into doing what it does best. Sometimes, as now, it also helps one's sanity to leaf through baptismal records in Mayaguez, Puerto Rico sipping a Piña Colada under a palm tree......... Best wishes to all for 2004 and for those of you stuck out on some genealogical limb, may I paraphase a recent president: Mr. Civil War List, tear down that wall! Mike Ruddy List maintenance Civil War

    01/01/2004 12:15:52
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Newspaper Articles
    2. In a message dated 12/31/2003 10:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, eharding2@cox.net writes: > Shall we submit to the sectional and remorseless despotism of a majority > of the Northern States, with no restraints on their lawless will, no checks on > their omnivorous rapacity? That is the question. Every man, every boy in > the South answers NO! And they will fight the foul usurpers and tyrants, if > they dare the issue of war, as long as the streams run and the sun shines on > our vallies. > Edward, What an inspired piece of journalism! I dare say that I have never been so proud to be a Southerner in NC as I was when I read that. I had been reading about and researching, Nathan Bedford Forrest, (as I am wont to do most mornings), the greatest general in the Confederate Army in my opinion, when you posted that patriotic article. Thanks for a great post! Everyone from the South knows who Jefferson Davis was, and this is one thing that distinguishes the South from other parts of the country. William F. Buckley

    12/31/2003 02:17:51
    1. Fw: [CIVIL-WAR] Confederate Soldiers Hospital Guide
    2. Ben Vincent
    3. Would you have anything on the Union Soldiers Hospital, where he may have gone when sick. My gggrandfather died in the Regt. Hospital in Youngs Point. LA. March 4, 1863. I am trying to find where he may have been buried. I have not been able to locate his burial, could someone give me some directions to go on. Thank you. Rowena Vincent bv3235@charter.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy" <nancybrister@i-55.com> To: <Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Confederate Soldiers Hospital Guide > This might be helpful to some of you who are trying to locate hospitals in the Richmond area where Confederate soldiers were sent. It's from the excellent website, "Richmond, Then and Now." Link at bottom. > Nancy > > "Richmond Sentinel > August 10, 1863 > > Soldier's Guide > > Apportionment of General Hospitals in Department of Henrico, showing to which Hospital the Sick and Wounded of each State are sent: > > For the information of the friends of the sick and wounded soldiers, we give below the different Hospitals in which the soldiers from each State are placed, and their locations. It will be found accurate, as it has been kindly furnished by a distinguished surgeon in authority: > > The soldiers from the States of Maryland, Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky and Missouri, and placed in Chimborazo Hospital, situated at the East terminus of Broad street. > Those from North Carolina, in General Hospital No. 24, corner of Main and 26th streets; and in 3d, 4th and 5th divisions, Winder Hospital, west terminus of Cary street. > Those from Georgia, will be found in 1st and 2d divisions, Winder hospital, West terminus of Cary street; and in 2d and 3d divisions, Jackson Hospital, near Hollywood Cemetery. > Those from Alabama, at the Alabama Hospital, Church Hill, Franklin street; and in 1st division, Howard's Grove Hospital, Mechanicsville turnpike. > Those from Mississippi, in 2d division, Howard's Grove Hospital, Mechanicsville turnpike. > Those from South Carolina, in 1st division, Jackson Hospital, near Hollywood Cemetery. > Those from Louisiana, at the Louisiana Hospital, West end Broad street, and in 4th division, Jackson Hospital, near Hollywood Cemetery. > Those from Florida, in General Hospital No. 11, 19th street between Main and Franklin. > Those from Texas, at the Texas Hospital, Main street, near terminus of City Railway. > The following are Confederate hospitals, with their locations: General Hospital No. 1, North terminus of 2d street; General Hospital No. 21, cor of 25th and Cary streets; Henningson Hospital, Wall street; Samaritan Hospital, Clay street, between 5th and 6th; Robertson Hospital, corner Main and 3d streets; General Hospital No. 4, corner 10th and Marshall streets. > The commissioned officers are to be found in Confederate Hospital No. 10, corner of Main and 19th streets. > Officers in private quarters, (Surgeon A. Y. P. Garnett,) Broad street, between 9th and 10th. > Wayside Hospital, General Hospital No. 12, corner of 19th and Franklin streets, where soldiers can have their wants supplied without expense. > Receiving Hospital, General Hospital No. 9, corner of 17th and Grace streets. > Prison Hospital, General Hospital No. 13, 20th street, between Main and Franklin. > In addition to the above, Wayside Hospitals established at Petersburg, Danville, Farmville, Lynchburg, Charlottesville, Liberty, and Staunton, near the railroad depots, at which sick and disabled soldiers may have their wants supplied without expense." > Taken from: > http://www.thenandnow.bravepages.com/Soldiers-Guide.html > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name >

    12/31/2003 01:00:58
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] advertising
    2. Dennis & Donna Francis
    3. "Dan Patterson" writes:, > > ... Rootsweb will add a footer at the bottom of your post. That is > advertising. --------------------------------- These started when Ancestry bought Rootsweb. Before then, Rootsweb was supported by voluntary contributors, and there just wasn't enough of them to keep the ball rolling. And so the ads came - it's the (very minor) price we all pay to keep the lists free of charge. ---------------------------------. > I would dare to say that over 50% > of the posts now are replys back to the entire list but speaks just to > original sender. ---------------------------------- IMHO this is actually good. If somebody makes a query and somebody replies to the list, everyone knows they don't need to spend the time responding as well, if they've nothing to add. Not to mention the others - especially the lurkers - who might learn something from the reply. Personal replies don't do that. Sometimes, even a wee bit of chat might not be so bad - helps make the list a bit more personal. 'Course, "thank you"s and "me too"s are another matter and netiquette says these should always be off-list. But like you said, this is after all Mike's list and he calls the shots, so this is only my two cents worth. Have a Safe & Happy New Year, everyone, Dennis

    12/31/2003 12:08:39
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] The Common Soldier page 2
    2. akeegan
    3. I found this item in the Civil War times Dec 2003 issue page 52 also it was written by Eric Ethier and not Micheal J McAfee and the statememt on the Black soldiers it should read approximately 179,000 black soldiers wore Blue Sorry for my typo errors Ann O From: <Edmcrebel@aol.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] The Common Soldier page 2 > In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:27:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, > eharding2@cox.net writes: > It's amazing how the Union Army paid white soldiers more than minority > soldiers, but the Confederate Army paid each soldier the same pay which was > determined by rank, and not if they were White, Black, Indian, Jewish, etc. Kind of > interesting I think. > YES IT IS. VERY INTERESTING. > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email CIVIL-WAR-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

    12/31/2003 11:21:23
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] Colonel Charles DeMORSE, 29th Texas Cavalry
    2. Dear Civil War Listers, Happy New Year from 'The Old Country'! Does anybody know anything - other than what's on-line (see below) - about the above-named officer and the 29th Texas Cavalry. Col. DeMORSE was my wife's fourth cousin four times removed (through the DENNY family of England and America), and we're proud of him! Yours, etc. Geoffrey Woollard in Cambridgeshire, England. "DEMORSE, CHARLES (1816-1887). Charles DeMorse (born Charles Denny Morse), editor, publisher, statesman, soldier, public official, lawyer, merchant, and farmer, was born in Leicester, Massachusetts, on January 31, 1816, the son of Aaron and Mary (Denny) Morse. He received a good academic education in New Haven and New York City and later studied law. In the autumn of 1835 he joined Maj. Edwin Morehouse's volunteers to aid Texas. En route to Texas he was detained by the British at Nassau, and while there his name (Charles D. Morse) through error was enrolled as Charles DeMorse. He adopted the change, which was later approved by the Sixth Texas Congress. Upon his arrival in Texas, DeMorse accepted a commission in the Texas Navy but resigned in July 1836 to become a major in the army, where he received military training under Albert Sidney Johnston. When the army was disbanded in 1837 DeMorse entered law practice at Matagorda. In 1838 he married Lodiska C. Wooldridge; to them were born five children. DeMorse was stock commissioner, charged with refunding the public debt, under President Mirabeau B. Lamar, and at the same time he was reporter for the Texas House of Representatives. He founded the Clarksville Northern Standard in 1842 and continued as its publisher and editor until his death. In 1862 he organized and became colonel of the Twenty-ninth Texas Cavalry, which saw service in Indian Territory and Arkansas. It bore the brunt of the fight at Elk Creek or Honey Springs in 1863. DeMorse was the commanding officer of the force at Poison Springs, near Camden, Arkansas, where an attempted federal advance into Texas from Little Rock was stopped. Although not particularly ambitious for public office, DeMorse served in 1842 as first mayor of Clarksville and was congressman-elect at the time of annexation. He helped in the organization of the Democratic party in Texas and advocated its principles so strongly that he was proclaimed the "Father of the Texas Democratic Press." He took a lead in attempting to get Texas to accept the results of the Civil War and later worked to eliminate Radical Republican control of the state. He served as a delegate to the state and national Democratic conventions in 1872 and supported the Liberal Republicans as a temporary expedient. He was second to Richard Coke in the nomination for governor in 1873; in 1886, against his wishes, he was again put forward as a candidate for that office. DeMorse was an active member of the Grange, helped organize the Texas Veterans Association in 1873, and in 1874 was named one of the directors of the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas (now Texas A&M University). He was one of the most influential framers of the Constitution of 1876, particularly of the judicial article. He spent his last years largely in championing the cause of the "nester." In 1873 the Texas Press and Editorial Association elected him president, and he has been called the "Father of Texas Journalism." DeMorse died on October 25, 1887."

    12/31/2003 08:45:26
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] Shuford in the 47th NC
    2. Thank you Edward Harding for the following information: North Carolina Troops 1861-1865 A Roster Volume XI Infantry Page 338 Co. H, 47th Regiment N.C. Troops SHUFORD, ALFONSA, Private Resided in Rowan County and enlisted at age 25, October 17, 1862, for the war. Died at Petersburg, Virginia, in November, 1863, of disease. On the Confederate Roster, I found him listed as F. Shuford. As a followup question, is there anyone who can verify his service at Gettysburg in July of 1863? Shuford signed up for service in October of 1862 & died in November of 1863. So he was a member of the regiment during the Gettysburg Campaign. I am just looking for documentation. It will be a wonderful New Year's gift for a friend. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

    12/31/2003 08:07:44
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] 47th NC
    2. Am searching, on behalf of a friend, for any of the Shuford surname who may have fought at Gettysburg as part of the 47th NC. According to my information, the 47th was part of Heth's Division, Pettigrew's Brigade & Faribault's Regiment. Thank you in advance for any information. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Mike Peters npeters102@aol.com

    12/31/2003 06:39:12
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] advertising
    2. Dan Patterson
    3. Hello group, With a late comment about website with advertising or someone posting info about an available related book... I have noticed one thing about Rootsweb.com and several other groups, have you noticed when we post a valid article or info, when the post goes out to the list, many times the server at Rootsweb will add a footer at the bottom of your post. That is advertising. I am aware that the list father/mother has every right to place restrictions on their list and totally rightfully so. The few advertisements don't bother me as much as folks that don't know how to use their reply button properly. I would dare to say that over 50% of the posts now are replys back to the entire list but speaks just to original sender. Sometimes this type post is beneficial. This type of post uses the most system resources on all lists. Anytime I make a post I always place instructions for folks replying to contact me personally. Nuff said. Dan Patterson Rowan County Information On-Line www.GoRowan.com www.SalisburyPrison.com www.RowanMuseum.com

    12/31/2003 05:38:22
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] Newspaper Articles
    2. Edward Harding
    3. Hello List, I thought I might try to do something a bit different on here if none of you mind. Each day, or whenever I can, I'm going to try and send an article as written from newspapers, both Southern and Northern, during the time of the War. ......Edward >From the Charleston Mercury, Saturday, April 20, 1861 For What Are We Contending? For more than thirty years the people of South Carolina have been contending against the consolidation of the Government of the United States. Created a Confederation of Republics whose central power, authority, and jurisdiction, were carefully limited by the compact of the Constitution, and made conformable to, and within its proper limits, co-ordinate with the original and reserved powers, authority and jurisdiction of the several States which it was composed, the United States Government has steadily usurped powers not granted--progressively trenched upon States Rights. Not a bald, irresponsible, unchecked, vulgar democracy of mere numbers, was organized by the instrument of the Federation between the States; but a well adjusted, duplicate system harmonious and complimentary--the central common Government performing its allotted functions within its prescribed sphere, and each State Government performing all other functions of Government not expressly yielded to the oth! er. If that Government became practically omnipotent, it was clear that it must be a most fearful despotism--a despotism of one section of the Union over the other--a despotism of Manufacturing over Agricultural States--of Free States over Slaveholding States. Earnestly and faithfully have our public men at Washington contended against this fatal consummation. It was not for free trade only in 1833--it was not against antislavery fanaticism only in 1852, it is not now against our preclusion from our Territories or the vulgar crew who fill the high places at Washington, that we have set up for ourselves a separate destiny. These are all effects of one great cause--the consolidation of the Federal Government. As facts, we have been obliged to meet them--but the facts themselves were comparatively insignificant. They were like the ship money which Hampton refused to pay--like the three pence a pound on tea, which our fathers resisted. They proved to us that we were the s! laves of a consolidated despotism--that self government, and the security which self government alone can impart--and liberty, and the priceless self-esteem and proud repose, which liberty can only inspire--were no longer our inheritance or possession. It was in vain that South Carolina endeavored to prove that this despotism existed. We had the forms of a free representative government. There was a party in the Northern States professing those principles of limitation and restriction, which might yet be restored to ascendancy in the government, and make it again a free government. There was a deep reverence and attachment to the Union, which blinded the understanding of some of the brightest intelligences of the South. These all conspired to carry the South on in the chains of a sectional despotism, which looked, in its final consummation, to nothing short of our absolute subjugation and ruin. South Carolina, by her secession, forced the test of the nature of the gov! ernment under which we lived. It has proved itself. As one scale of hypocrisy after another fell off of its poisonous surface, it stood forth a pure, fierce monster of despotism. The National Intelligencer, of Washington, for forty years the central organ of Consolidation, identifies its policy with the New York Tribune. BLAIR, the mouth-piece of JACKSON Democracy in 1833, and JOHNSON, of Tennessee, its modern prototype, and DOUGLAS and BUCHANAN, now join with LINCOLN and CHASE and SEWARD in the grand effort to establish, by the sword, what has long existed as a policy--the despotism of a consolidated government under the Constitution of the United States. The matter is now plain. State after State in the South sees the deadly development, and are moving to take their part in the grand effort to redeem their liberties. It is not a contest for righteous taxation. It is not a contest for the security of slave property. It is a contest for freedom and free government, i! n which everything dear to man is involved. Shall we submit to the sectional and remorseless despotism of a majority of the Northern States, with no restraints on their lawless will, no checks on their omnivorous rapacity? That is the question. Every man, every boy in the South answers NO! And they will fight the foul usurpers and tyrants, if they dare the issue of war, as long as the streams run and the sun shines on our vallies.

    12/31/2003 03:04:24
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] questions for ed harding
    2. Jim Downs
    3. Ed, I just saw the movie Cold Mountain. How much of the film is factual? The Crater seemed pretty accurate. How about the Home Guards? How widespread was desertion? My great grandfather, Micaja Wilkerson (about whom you previously sent me some information) was in the 18th regiment. He deserted and was found, arrested and then returned to his unit, apparently. I just found an old letter from an uncle who described a conversation in which he remembered Micaja talking around 1910 about the accidental shooting of Stonewall Jackson. Micaja said, according to my uncle's account, that his company was behind the company which fired on Jackson's group. Micaja said he didn't recall anyone blaming the men who fired on Jackson as the General and his party had been somewhat careless in approaching the 18th regiment's lines. How true is this? Micaja, incidentally, came from Cold Creek, North Carolina. How far is that from Cold Mountain? Thanks, Ed, for all the enthusiasm you put into your research and the help you give everyone. Have a good New Year. Jim Downs 1303 Crestridge Drive Oceanside, CA 92054 downs24@cox.net

    12/31/2003 02:43:14
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] The Common Soldier page 2
    2. In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:27:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, eharding2@cox.net writes: It's amazing how the Union Army paid white soldiers more than minority soldiers, but the Confederate Army paid each soldier the same pay which was determined by rank, and not if they were White, Black, Indian, Jewish, etc. Kind of interesting I think. YES IT IS. VERY INTERESTING.

    12/30/2003 03:28:26
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] The Common Soldier page 2
    2. Edward Harding
    3. Ann, Thanks for the posting on the Common Soldier. As always, you've come up with some really good information. One thing you pointed out was the pay scale of soldiers. It's amazing how the Union Army paid white soldiers more than minority soldiers, but the Confederate Army paid each soldier the same pay which was determined by rank, and not if they were White, Black, Indian, Jewish, etc. Kind of interesting I think. Edward

    12/30/2003 02:27:02
    1. Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Need Help
    2. Edward Harding
    3. Karen, I've check a couple of sources and found some information on a Thomas D. Curtis. I just have no way of telling if this is the man you are searching for. In the Confederate Roster, I found two listings, one with initials and one with a name. I found no men with this name or initials to be from Mississippi, but from Alabama which is closeby. These two listings could possibly be for the same man, but due to lack of detailed information on him, I can't be positive. There is always the possibility these were two different men. T.D. Curtis, Private Alabama 62nd Infantry, Company H Thomas D. Curtis, Private Alabama Cavalry Reserves, Brooks' Company I also check on Ancestry.com and found a Thomas D. Curtis listed on three different Censuses. Thomas D. Curtis State: Alabama County: Lowndes County Page 142 Alabama 1850 Federal Census Index Thomas D. Curtis State: Alabama County: Lowndes County Page 009 Alabama 1855 State Census Index Thomas D. Curtis State: Alabama County: Lowndes County Township: Haynesville P.O. Page 518 Alabama 1860 Federal Census Index I found two pension records for a Thomas D. Curtis, but they appear to be for different men as one was a Confederate soldier who served from South Carolina and the other was a Union soldier from Indiana. I know this information is probably confusing, and I have no idea if this man from Alabama is the man you are searching for. I just hope this bit of information might give you something to work from. Edward

    12/30/2003 12:31:52
    1. [CIVIL-WAR] Georgia Civil War Grave
    2. Would appreciate all your Help in verifing that a Mississippi Civil War Soldier died in Ga. He is Pvt. Needham H. Temples, 37th Infantry Regiment of Ms. His records shows he was Sick in Hospital from late August until he died on 20 October 1862. I have been told people like him, who became Sick was sent to Georgia Hospitals from North Mississippi. If He was in a Georgia Hospital, then he would be buried near where HE Died. Thanks, In Advance Happy New Year to Everyone, especially those of you that have tried to help me. Thomas Temple

    12/30/2003 08:41:49