I don't know if many of you know, but on the Atlanta news this evening, eminent domain is trying to take these two areas. I did not hear the news but my boyfriend told me. Of course it is the same story, builders want to put high dollar homes on this "land that is just sitting there." I know the organizations that try to save these battlefields are able to save a lot, however, Chickamauga is huge not only in size but history. This would take more than the usual funds, I would think. I just wanted to get the word out early. Maybe we can do something if we work hard. Linda

I have a copy of a g-great uncle's "discharge paper" from the 18th South Carolina Volunteers. It is a hand written note by the company commander, nothing fancy. It is titled "Soldier's Discharge". It states the name, rank, unit, where he was born, enlistment date, a physical description, age, and what he did as a trade before he entered the service. It also states he was honorably discharged from the Army of the Confederate States. It is signed by the company commander and dated April 11, 1865, Appomattox Court House, VA. Jim Whiteside ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice J. Gayley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] discharge paper question > Neither General Grant nor President Lincoln signed discharge papers for the > Union Army. What you are describing sounds more like the ornamental > documents that were developed by the Grand Army of the Republic which was > formed following the war. In terms of sentimental value to the family, this > is probably a priceless document; its monetary value would probably be > significantly less. > > Alice J. Gayley > Pennsylvania in the Civil War > http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:29 PM > Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] discharge paper question > > > > I'm helping a friend with his family line. He has found his Great > > Grandfather discharge paper . It looks like in a 4" frame wooden > > craving o it an it is about 2'wide by 3 ft height. It is his Great > > Grandfather civil war paper . And he states his father might sell it to > > a museum . Is it worth anything ? It has signatures on it like General > > Ulysses Grant , abe lincoln (when he was president) > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > > unsubscribe > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe >

I'm helping a friend with his family line. He has found his Great Grandfather discharge paper . It looks like in a 4" frame wooden craving o it an it is about 2'wide by 3 ft height. It is his Great Grandfather civil war paper . And he states his father might sell it to a museum . Is it worth anything ? It has signatures on it like General Ulysses Grant , abe lincoln (when he was president)

Neither General Grant nor President Lincoln signed discharge papers for the Union Army. What you are describing sounds more like the ornamental documents that were developed by the Grand Army of the Republic which was formed following the war. In terms of sentimental value to the family, this is probably a priceless document; its monetary value would probably be significantly less. Alice J. Gayley Pennsylvania in the Civil War http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] discharge paper question > I'm helping a friend with his family line. He has found his Great > Grandfather discharge paper . It looks like in a 4" frame wooden > craving o it an it is about 2'wide by 3 ft height. It is his Great > Grandfather civil war paper . And he states his father might sell it to > a museum . Is it worth anything ? It has signatures on it like General > Ulysses Grant , abe lincoln (when he was president) > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

You mentioned a 4" (wide?) frame and 24" x 36" that is a rather large document. I agree with Alice that it probably is not a discharge paper with Lincoln and Grant on it. Could you give us the exact wording on the paper and if the writing is script or printing. What is the name of the soldier and his regiment? Without finding out what type of document you have it would be difficult to determine value. Regular discharge papers range from $25-50 for Union but they are not as big as your description indicates. Mike [email protected] wrote: > I'm helping a friend with his family line. He has found his Great > Grandfather discharge paper . It looks like in a 4" frame wooden craving > o it an it is about 2'wide by 3 ft height. It is his Great Grandfather > civil war paper . And he states his father might sell it to a museum . > Is it worth anything ? It has signatures on it like General Ulysses > Grant , abe lincoln (when he was president) > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > > >

Dear Ruth, This is a very generous thing for you to do. There must be so much family history contained in your family home! I was interested to see that you live in southern Vermont. Are you anywhere near Putney, VT., also located in Southern Vermont? An article "Religious Experience of John Humphrey NOYES" says that the Noyes family moved to Putney, VT, in Dec., 1822. Hon. John H. Noyes, Sr., a retired Brattleboro businessman and U.S. Congressman, "bought a dignified, commodious mansion with farm adjoining from Captain Benjamin Smith, a prosperous merchant and leading man of the town and probably the builder of the house." It later became the primary residence for Noyes' Utopian community. The house stands prominently atop Kimball Hill, facing the village below, rather than the road. 'Locust Grove', c.1810, is an excellent example of the Federal style in Vermont and one of the two exceptional examples in the district. Our family has a letter written in 1828 by Benjamin SMITH, son of Joseph Smith. I would be greatly interested to learn more about him! Benjamin married Lucy SABIN, daughter of Noah SABIN, of Rehoboth, Bristol Co., Massachusetts; [distinguished in the annals of Cumberland county], who came to Putney, building the first frame house erected in the town. I am just wondering if you know anything about the history of Putney and its founding families? We always live in hope! Warm regards, Eugenia Hobday Sydney, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Civil War book >I ask nothing for the books that I have. I guess I should explain. First > a bit of background. . My hubby and I live in southern Vermont where we > have lived all our lives. A few years ago we moved to my ancestral home to > live with my Dad who has "memory problems" ie: dementia and can't live > alone any longer. This is a 10 room house with full attic and cellar and > it is FULL OF STUFF. This house was built by my ancestors and we're the > only family that has ever lived here so the accumulation is tremendous. > > Now to the book which is the purpose of this post and my subbing to this > list. This book was in one of the MANY bookcases here in the house and I > happened to pick it out yesterday and decided it was time for it to go. I > have not read this book but feel it may be useful to someone, most likely a > serious student of Civil War Naval History. > Ruth Barton > [email protected] > Dummerston, VT

In a message dated 2/25/2006 7:18:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: what a fun discussion Ihaven't seen anyone mention the Heminway book that is up at the Vermont website. I can't find Karimas complete site but the Windham is up at which for the OZ among us <G> has a lot of genealogy and a lot of Sabins. http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Evtwindha/vhg5/windhamofwindhamcounty.htm Eliz

In a message dated 2/25/2006 11:09:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Putney is the next town north of Dummerston. I lived there for some years and am currently the president of the Putney Historical Society. Yes, I know the NOYES house, it currently is owned and operated by "Putney Cares" a group that operates is as a congregate living house AHHHaaa, is there a Samuel Lord or Samuel Dickinson house there? <G> I think the Noyes were kin (they were in my Ransom line), certainly one of the Samuel Lords followed him. A son (John R. LOrd), born in Putney, stayed with JHN until long after the end, I was just working on his wife Georgianna Sears LORD today, first time I got a good look at the 1911 Ontario census. Is Lucy Sabin the one who married Benjamin Smith? That Lucy is also a descendant of Joshua Clark Parker R.S. what a fun discussion Ihaven't seen anyone mention the Heminway book that is up at the Vermont website. Now since this is Civil War, why don't we take this Putney discussion to the Vermont list? I sure want to continue it <G> Eliz

Ruth -- If you have a lot of New England books, the New England Historic Genealogical Society might be interested. See http://www.newenglandancestors.org/giving/full_letter_611_6.asp Probably they would want to see a list of the books. I recently donated one book, a new one that I had written (on one line of the Hixson/Hixon family of New England). State libraries and historical societies might be interested in books on history and military units. Carol Botteron Maintainer, Civil War Units File At 6:52 PM -0800 2/24/06, Ruth Barton wrote: >I ask nothing for the books that I have. I guess I should explain. First >a bit of background. . My hubby and I live in southern Vermont where we >have lived all our lives. A few years ago we moved to my ancestral home to >live with my Dad who has "memory problems" ie: dementia and can't live >alone any longer. This is a 10 room house with full attic and cellar and >it is FULL OF STUFF. This house was built by my ancestors and we're the >only family that has ever lived here so the accumulation is tremendous. > >Now to the book which is the purpose of this post and my subbing to this >list. This book was in one of the MANY bookcases here in the house and I >happened to pick it out yesterday and decided it was time for it to go. I >have not read this book but feel it may be useful to someone, most likely a >serious student of Civil War Naval History.

Eugenia, Putney is the next town north of Dummerston. I lived there for some years and am currently the president of the Putney Historical Society. Yes, I know the NOYES house, it currently is owned and operated by "Putney Cares" a group that operates is as a congregate living house. Until a few years ago my mother-in-law lived in the Noah SABIN house. Her father had bought it in the 1920s. I have been in that house many times. What all would you like to know? Ruth At 10:01 PM +1100 2/25/06, Eugenia wrote: >Dear Ruth, > > > >This is a very generous thing for you to do. > >There must be so much family history contained in your family home! > >I was interested to see that you live in southern Vermont. > >Are you anywhere near Putney, VT., also located in Southern Vermont? > > > >An article "Religious Experience of John Humphrey NOYES" says that the >Noyes family moved to Putney, VT, in Dec., 1822. Hon. John H. Noyes, Sr., >a retired Brattleboro businessman and U.S. Congressman, "bought a >dignified, commodious mansion with farm adjoining from Captain Benjamin >Smith, a prosperous merchant and leading man of the town and probably the >builder of the house." > > >It later became the primary residence for Noyes' Utopian community. The >house stands prominently atop Kimball Hill, facing the village below, >rather than the road. 'Locust Grove', c.1810, is an excellent example of >the Federal style in Vermont and one of the two exceptional examples in >the district. > > > >Our family has a letter written in 1828 by Benjamin SMITH, son of Joseph >Smith. I would be greatly interested to learn more about him! > >Benjamin married Lucy SABIN, daughter of Noah SABIN, of Rehoboth, Bristol >Co., Massachusetts; [distinguished in the annals of Cumberland county], >who came to Putney, building the first frame house erected in the town. > > > >I am just wondering if you know anything about the history of Putney and >its founding families? > >We always live in hope! > > > >Warm regards, > >Eugenia Hobday > >Sydney, Australia -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

You are to be commended for your willingness to share...I think all of us should take inventory of all that "stuff" which we have and pass it to someone who needs it...I know that my parents left me with 'tons' of stuff and I promised that I would not do that to my children, but time is fleeting and if I intend to keep that promise, I best get busy... >From: Ruth Barton <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Civil War book >Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:52:02 -0800 > >I ask nothing for the books that I have. I guess I should explain. First >a bit of background. . My hubby and I live in southern Vermont where we >have lived all our lives. A few years ago we moved to my ancestral home to >live with my Dad who has "memory problems" ie: dementia and can't live >alone any longer. This is a 10 room house with full attic and cellar and >it is FULL OF STUFF. This house was built by my ancestors and we're the >only family that has ever lived here so the accumulation is tremendous. > >Now to the book which is the purpose of this post and my subbing to this >list. This book was in one of the MANY bookcases here in the house and I >happened to pick it out yesterday and decided it was time for it to go. I >have not read this book but feel it may be useful to someone, most likely a >serious student of Civil War Naval History. > > > > > >At 3:56 PM -0500 2/24/06, [email protected] wrote: > >cost > > >-- >Ruth Barton >[email protected] >Dummerston, VT > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] >and in the text area of the message, type only the word >unsubscribe >

I ask nothing for the books that I have. I guess I should explain. First a bit of background. . My hubby and I live in southern Vermont where we have lived all our lives. A few years ago we moved to my ancestral home to live with my Dad who has "memory problems" ie: dementia and can't live alone any longer. This is a 10 room house with full attic and cellar and it is FULL OF STUFF. This house was built by my ancestors and we're the only family that has ever lived here so the accumulation is tremendous. Now to the book which is the purpose of this post and my subbing to this list. This book was in one of the MANY bookcases here in the house and I happened to pick it out yesterday and decided it was time for it to go. I have not read this book but feel it may be useful to someone, most likely a serious student of Civil War Naval History. At 3:56 PM -0500 2/24/06, [email protected] wrote: >cost > -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

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I have the following book which I would be happy to send to anyone who would like to have it. First consideration will be given to any educational or public institution. Title: Blue Jackets of '61 Author: Willis J. Abbot Pub: Dodd, Mead & Co 1886 Description: A History of the Navy in the War of Secession, with illustrations. I have NOT read this book, it is a book that has found its way into this house at some time long past and I am needing to part with many of the hundreds of books here. Thank You, Ruth -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

Lynn No rule broken that I know of. The link showed destruction of Gettysburg Civil War Monuments. Depending on you email the underlines can show up as spaces and the link won't work until they are reinserted. Mike [email protected] wrote: > I saw a web link for a magazine, what does this mag. consist of (if you > don't mind my asking). the link was: > I'm not sure of your rules for this mailing list so if I'm doing something > incorrect, please let me know and I apology in advance for any error I may be > making. thank you Lynn Dunk

I saw a web link for a magazine, what does this mag. consist of (if you don't mind my asking). the link was: _www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2006/021606htm_ (http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2006/021606htm) . I'm not sure of your rules for this mailing list so if I'm doing something incorrect, please let me know and I apology in advance for any error I may be making. thank you Lynn Dunk

Lynn and others fo interest, The link I posted about the vandalized Gettysburg Monuments came from an article from the on-line newsletter/magazine of the National Trust for Historic Preservation. Dan Hogan --- [email protected] wrote: > I saw a web link for a magazine, what does this mag. > consist of (if you > don't mind my asking). the link was: > _www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2006/021606htm_ > > (http://www.nationaltrust.org/magazine/archives/arc_news_2006/021606htm) > . > > I'm not sure of your rules for this mailing list so > if I'm doing something > incorrect, please let me know and I apology in > advance for any error I may be > making. > > thank you > > Lynn Dunk Dan Hogan [email protected]

From the Preservationist Newsletter. Dan Hogan Three Gettysburg Monuments Vandalized http://www.nationaltrust.org/Magazine/archives/arc_news_2006/021606.htm Dan Hogan [email protected]

I will follow up on the reference you have mentioned, Edward. Again, thanks so much for your help. The CD sounds interesting, too, and I will definitely try to locate the Slave Narratives, and SHSP. Perhaps I can make requests in the future re N. Carolina's regiments. best regards, Fithian On Feb 19, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Edward Harding wrote: > Fithian, > > The source I use to find soldiers just for Name, State, Rank, > Company, and Regiment is the Confederate Roster compiled by > Broadfoot Publishing Company that I have on CD. The cd contains > approximately 1,500,000 names. The only drawback for most people > in getting it is the price ($450). > > I mainly concentrate on soldiers from North Carolina and once I > find a soldier's company and regiment, I can look him up in the > volumes of "North Carolina Troops 1861-1865: A Roster" that I > have. These volumes of books contain information on soldiers taken > from many old records such as muster rolls, company records, > regimental records, hospital records, and old UDC records. > > I've just been very lucky to be able to put together a fairly > decent research library at home. I also have regimental histories > in "North Carolina Regiments 1861-65'", a book and also a cd with > listings of Confederate POW's who died in Union POW Camps, > Confederate Enlisted Marines, etc. > > I'm always glad to help people find information on ancestors and > just wish I had more detailed information on soldiers other than > just those from NC. > > Two recent things I acquired that have been EXCELLENT reading on CD > are the complete Slave Narratives and the Southern Historical > Society Papers. > > If I can ever be of any future help to you or anyone else on the > list, please feel free to contact me. > > Edward Harding > Washington, NC > SCV/MOSB Life Member > SCV National Genealogy Committee Member > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name >

Paula, I did not get them. I will be happy to contact you. I did check at the National Archives and there were no XC type numbers on the pension files. Nancy -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Alice J. Gayley" <[email protected]> > Nancy, > > You don't indicate whether or not you were successful in getting the files. > If not, NARA recommends you request the pension files under the Freedom of > Information Act. I have a copy of their proposed form letter. If you would > like a copy, contact me off line. It works; it takes a lot of time (50 > weeks in one case), but they can find them. > > Alice J. Gayley > Pennsylvania in the Civil War > http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Ancestry Pension online > > > > Paula, I have been researching the 3rd and 6th Tenn. Infantries (Union) > and have found that at least 1/3 of the files I have tried to get are still > at the VA...so I would say that more than a few are still there. I actually > went to the VA with a list of names (direct ancestors or related family) and > was told to leave the applications on a chair and if she could get around to > it, after she finished 4 boxes of papers, she might look into it. During the > entire conversation I spoke to her back. She never turned around or > acknowledged me except to tell me to leave my requests on the chair. Nancy > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: [email protected] > > > > > On 19 Feb 2006 at 4:14, Gerald Gieger wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry, but I have looked at Microfilm Reels at the NARA in Ft Worth > > > > Texas...I am sure that the "originals" are in Washington, DC. > > > > > > I do not know what microfilms you have viewed in the Ft Worth, but > > > they were not union pension files as these files have not been > > > microfilmed. The original and only files are held at NARA in > > > Washington DC with a few later files still held by the VA. > > > > > > -- > > > Paula Wiegand > > > > > > Genealogy Quest > > > www.Genealogy-Quest.com > > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > > > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > > > unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name >