No apologies needed for me, Alice. I'm glad you accidentally replied to the list. With rare exception, the records that I have ordered directly from the National Archives have at least one page that has been poorly photocopied (cut off, blurred from removing off the scanner too fast, etc.) Of course, it is always the page that I truly need. This results in phone calls and letter writing campaigns. I do have to say that the National Archives have always corrected the errors without charge. Nevertheless, it is nice to know of alternatives that might be a bit more quality and efficiency oriented. Mary Helen -----Original Message----- From: Alice J. Gayley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Apologies My apologies to the members of this list. I didn't realize that Thomas hadn't written to me directly. Now back to our regularly schedule programming. -- Alice J. Gayley Pennsylvania in the Civil War http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name

I am looking for a newspaper/news bulletin that was called The Cartridge Box. It was printed for Beverly Hospital 1864-65 in New Jersey. Also at York Hospital in Penna.

The Historical Society of Pennsylvania: http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx?id=120 Indicates they possess the following: The Cartridge Box. Vol.1, No.1 to Vol.1, No.22 (March 5, 1864 - June 3, 1865). York, PA. Mike [email protected] wrote: > I am looking for a newspaper/news bulletin that was called The Cartridge > Box. It was printed for Beverly Hospital 1864-65 in New Jersey. Also at York > Hospital in Penna.

Dear Keith, Hello, Thank you for your reply. I have the original military records that I posted the information from, so I know that the information is correct, at least from the originals. I guess it is always possible that whoever wrote the originals got something wrong. I have searched for a pension record and have come up empty handed. I have tried the Tennessee State Library and Archives and the National Archives with no success. I have all the census records that he was listed in from 1850-1900. In the 1900 Dotsonville, Montgomery County, Tennessee census Andrew and his wife Elvira Jemima (Sanders) Barker and living in the household of their daughter and son-in-law and are in their 60's. After this census record it seems that Andrew and Elvira just fall off the face of the earth. I have not been able to find a death date or burial for either one of them. This family is full of mysteries and brick walls. By the way, I only live about 15-20 minutes from Fort Donelson and I have visited there many times. Thanks again for your thoughts and guidance. I only live about 20 minutes from Fort Donelson and have visited there many times. In Christ, Melissa Barker ----- Original Message ----- From: keith d bailey To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] My Civil War Question Andrew Barker CO H 49th TN INF Zachariah Barker CO I 49th TN INF ............... What kind of relation might this be here? The NPS site www.civilwar.nps.gov said Crute"s Compendium has no info on the 49th regiment. I would imagine you are in for some heavy digging. You really need to know what the regiment was doing at Ft. Donelson. Where were they at? What was happening and who had control of it on Feb. 15, 1862? Well, let's see..... Ft. Donelson is in Stewart Co. TN.. it was attacked on Feb 12, 1862 by Gen. Grant with almost a 5:1 advantage over the confederates army. see: www.civilwarhome.com/ftdonelson.htm The 49th TN INF was under Col. James E. Bailey (no relation). Grants gunboats moved in on the 14th and engaged the river battery. Fighting on the 15th seemed to favor the Confederates, as they tried to push back Union troops, but consequently they were flanked on the right and lost the works on the extreme right, which put the Union in a position behind the Confederate river battery. In the fight prior to the loss of these works, Bailey's regiment had been used to reinforce the area. On the 16th, the fort was surrendered to Grant's terms of Unconditional Surrender. If Andrew Barker was injured early during battle on the 15th, he may have been able to fall back and avoid the surrender thus getting back home. However, as a CSA soldier why was he, as a POW, sent to Vicksburg? They did have a hospital there, but Vicksburg didn't fall to the Union until July 4, 1863. I would imagine he was sent there because he was being Exchanged? After the area fell to Union control, there were lots of Union troops mustered in the area around Nashville, so he well could have been taken prisoner at home. A pension record of some sort may shed light on that. You may find a little paper trail if you dig into these. Don't neglect Union records; you may find a parole or exchange record. On the 1860 census, Andrew Barker of Wilson co. TN is listed as a "Farm Laborer". On the 1870 census, he seems to be one county over from Montgomery co. in Cumberland City, Stewart co. TN as a "laborer". That's about 10 miles from Palmyra and 20 from Ft. Donelson. On the 1880 census he seems to still be in Stewart co (still "works on farm"). He may have moved to the area to find work on another farm. I would also suggest taking another look at the dates. Someone may have transcribed some dates wrong... Keith Bailey ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name

Andrew Barker CO H 49th TN INF Zachariah Barker CO I 49th TN INF ............... What kind of relation might this be here? The NPS site www.civilwar.nps.gov said Crute"s Compendium has no info on the 49th regiment. I would imagine you are in for some heavy digging. You really need to know what the regiment was doing at Ft. Donelson. Where were they at? What was happening and who had control of it on Feb. 15, 1862? Well, let's see..... Ft. Donelson is in Stewart Co. TN.. it was attacked on Feb 12, 1862 by Gen. Grant with almost a 5:1 advantage over the confederates army. see: www.civilwarhome.com/ftdonelson.htm The 49th TN INF was under Col. James E. Bailey (no relation). Grants gunboats moved in on the 14th and engaged the river battery. Fighting on the 15th seemed to favor the Confederates, as they tried to push back Union troops, but consequently they were flanked on the right and lost the works on the extreme right, which put the Union in a position behind the Confederate river battery. In the fight prior to the loss of these works, Bailey's regiment had been used to reinforce the area. On the 16th, the fort was surrendered to Grant's terms of Unconditional Surrender. If Andrew Barker was injured early during battle on the 15th, he may have been able to fall back and avoid the surrender thus getting back home. However, as a CSA soldier why was he, as a POW, sent to Vicksburg? They did have a hospital there, but Vicksburg didn't fall to the Union until July 4, 1863. I would imagine he was sent there because he was being Exchanged? After the area fell to Union control, there were lots of Union troops mustered in the area around Nashville, so he well could have been taken prisoner at home. A pension record of some sort may shed light on that. You may find a little paper trail if you dig into these. Don't neglect Union records; you may find a parole or exchange record. On the 1860 census, Andrew Barker of Wilson co. TN is listed as a "Farm Laborer". On the 1870 census, he seems to be one county over from Montgomery co. in Cumberland City, Stewart co. TN as a "laborer". That's about 10 miles from Palmyra and 20 from Ft. Donelson. On the 1880 census he seems to still be in Stewart co (still "works on farm"). He may have moved to the area to find work on another farm. I would also suggest taking another look at the dates. Someone may have transcribed some dates wrong... Keith Bailey

Your mistake really helped me to know the costs for research...thanks a Lot Thomas Really thought it was a college student needing money for school that send the original message

Dear Jean, Thanks for replying. I live about 10 minutes from the place where he enlisted in Montgomery County and from there to the community of Gladeville, Wilson County is almost a 1 1/2 hour drive today. I just looked at mapquest.com and the total estimated distance is 87.44 miles from Palmyra, Montgomery County to Gladeville, Wilson County, so I stand corrected, but it was still a long way back in the 1860's. It seems strange to me that he would go so far to enlist when their were companies enlisting in his own town? Thanks for the thoughts though!! It is very much appreciated. In Christ, Melissa Barker ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Hendricks To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: RE: [CIVIL-WAR] Wilson Co; Montgomery Co. First I don't believe that Wilson Co. is 100 miles from Montgomery Co. Second, he may not have moved at all. Often the soldiers would go to another county to enlist. -----Original Message----- From: kaitysmom [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] My Civil War Question Hello List, as I said in a previous post, I am new to this list and I promised to send my Civil War questions and so here they are: My husband's 3rd great-grandfather was Andrew Jackson Barker. He was born in 1834 in Wilson County, Tennessee and lived his whole life there. He is listed in the 1860 Wilson County census which was enumerated on August 21, 1860. Between this census record and December 3, 1861 (the day he enlisted) he moved his entire family over 100 miles west to Montgomery County, Tennessee. He enlisted in Palmyra, Montgomery County, Tennessee on December 3, 1861. He was with the 49th Tennessee Regiment, Company H. My First Question: Why did he seemingly all of a sudden move west? He had not family in this part of the state. Was he thinking that he could go west and avoid the war and when he got so far, he figured he couldn't out run it, so he enlisted? Did that type of thing happen? Okay, I have a copy of his original military records and this is what they say: ENLISTED: December 3, 1861 in Palmyra, Montgomery County, Tennessee WOUNDED: February 15, 1862 at Fort Donelson, Stewart County, Tennessee, went home PRISONER OF WAR: Captured November 22, 1862 in Montgomery County, Tennessee, age 36, 5' 9 1/2" tall, gray eyes, dark hair, sent to Vicksburg, Mississippi on the steamboat Mary Crane COMPANY MUSTER ROLL: October 20, 1863 at Camp Cummings, Mobile, Alabama, deserted, wounded at Fort Donelson, sent home, not having regiment is dropped from rolls My Second Question: I have a copy of the book "Cry Havoc" written by C. Wallace Cross. This book is about the 49th Tennessee Infantry. It lists everyone that the author could locate that was at the Battle of Fort Donelson which is in Stewart County. When the south lost at this battle, the remaining soldiers were taken prisoner of war from the battle site. Not, Andrew Jackson Barker. As you can see from the information above, he was not taken prisoner of war until 9 months later in Montgomery County. He was wounded in the battle, could he have been taken to an army hospital in Montgomery County? The records says he "went home" could he have been taken prisoner of war at his home while recuperating? Now, he was put on a steamboat named "Mary Crane" and taken to Vicksburg, Mississippi. I have tried to find a photo of this steamboat, but I have learned that it wasn't too long after this battle that it was burned in Cheatham County, Tennessee. My Third Question: My Civil War research has only gone as far as Tennessee. Can anyone tell me if I would find any records on Andrew Jackson Barker's service or imprisonment in Vicksburg or anything in Mobile, Alabama. These areas I am not certain how to pursue? Thank you for letting me tell you my Civil War saga. One funny side note: Andrew Jackson Barker is my husband's ancestor. I also have an ancestor Oliver Coonrod that was with the 49th Ohio Infantry, Company H and was also at the battle of Fort Donelson. I like to tease my husband that my ancestor shot his and I won that battle!!! LOL!! In Christ, Melissa Barker ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name

First I don't believe that Wilson Co. is 100 miles from Montgomery Co. Second, he may not have moved at all. Often the soldiers would go to another county to enlist. -----Original Message----- From: kaitysmom [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] My Civil War Question Hello List, as I said in a previous post, I am new to this list and I promised to send my Civil War questions and so here they are: My husband's 3rd great-grandfather was Andrew Jackson Barker. He was born in 1834 in Wilson County, Tennessee and lived his whole life there. He is listed in the 1860 Wilson County census which was enumerated on August 21, 1860. Between this census record and December 3, 1861 (the day he enlisted) he moved his entire family over 100 miles west to Montgomery County, Tennessee. He enlisted in Palmyra, Montgomery County, Tennessee on December 3, 1861. He was with the 49th Tennessee Regiment, Company H. My First Question: Why did he seemingly all of a sudden move west? He had not family in this part of the state. Was he thinking that he could go west and avoid the war and when he got so far, he figured he couldn't out run it, so he enlisted? Did that type of thing happen? Okay, I have a copy of his original military records and this is what they say: ENLISTED: December 3, 1861 in Palmyra, Montgomery County, Tennessee WOUNDED: February 15, 1862 at Fort Donelson, Stewart County, Tennessee, went home PRISONER OF WAR: Captured November 22, 1862 in Montgomery County, Tennessee, age 36, 5' 9 1/2" tall, gray eyes, dark hair, sent to Vicksburg, Mississippi on the steamboat Mary Crane COMPANY MUSTER ROLL: October 20, 1863 at Camp Cummings, Mobile, Alabama, deserted, wounded at Fort Donelson, sent home, not having regiment is dropped from rolls My Second Question: I have a copy of the book "Cry Havoc" written by C. Wallace Cross. This book is about the 49th Tennessee Infantry. It lists everyone that the author could locate that was at the Battle of Fort Donelson which is in Stewart County. When the south lost at this battle, the remaining soldiers were taken prisoner of war from the battle site. Not, Andrew Jackson Barker. As you can see from the information above, he was not taken prisoner of war until 9 months later in Montgomery County. He was wounded in the battle, could he have been taken to an army hospital in Montgomery County? The records says he "went home" could he have been taken prisoner of war at his home while recuperating? Now, he was put on a steamboat named "Mary Crane" and taken to Vicksburg, Mississippi. I have tried to find a photo of this steamboat, but I have learned that it wasn't too long after this battle that it was burned in Cheatham County, Tennessee. My Third Question: My Civil War research has only gone as far as Tennessee. Can anyone tell me if I would find any records on Andrew Jackson Barker's service or imprisonment in Vicksburg or anything in Mobile, Alabama. These areas I am not certain how to pursue? Thank you for letting me tell you my Civil War saga. One funny side note: Andrew Jackson Barker is my husband's ancestor. I also have an ancestor Oliver Coonrod that was with the 49th Ohio Infantry, Company H and was also at the battle of Fort Donelson. I like to tease my husband that my ancestor shot his and I won that battle!!! LOL!! In Christ, Melissa Barker ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe

In checking my notes. General Bate's daughter, Suzanne Bate, married Ozro William Childs in 1891, but i do not know what date or where they were married. I suppose Nashville. Also do not have a marriage date for his daughter: Thomas Fearn Mastin to Mary Irvin Bate, between 1880 - 1890. Thanks again, Will Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolfman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] William B. Bate in 1870 >I am trying to find former Major General William B. Bate's household on the >1870 census. I assume he was in Sumner county at that time. I have been >told that one of his daughters who died young was named "Alice" and married >a Union Army officer after the war. > > I have two of the four daughters' info. > > 1. Mary Irvin "Mazey" Bate - born 1859/60 who married Thomas Masten > 2. Susan "Susie" Bate - who married O. B. or O. C. Childs > 3. Alice??? Must have been born before 1870 and married by 1880, as she > is not in General Bates' household in 1880. > 4. Do not know the other child's name or dates. > > I have heard from a descendant of General Bates' daughter, Alice, but she > has been rather ambiguous about her descendancy from General Bates. > > Regards, > > W. D. Smith > Hillsboro, TN > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >

Wow! you had that much trouble getting your information and medals? I filed for my step-grandfather's information about three years ago. It had been mostly lost in the fire, however, they were able to salvage some paperwork for me which was great. Then about two months later, without even asking for them, they sent me his medals. The only thing they didn't send was a flag and I already had that from Grandma. I wonder if it made a difference that he is buried overseas in Holland. It certainly wasn't because of his rank, he was only a private. Now thanks to some really nice people on the WWII boards, I also have a picture of his gravestone and some of the cemetery itself. Isn't the internet great! Vicki in WNY Researching these names: ARWINE, BAKER, BARRETT, BENVANSCHOTEN, BRANDOW, BROKAW, BUTLER, CARNES, CROWE, DEAN, FERRIS, GOLDEN, HAVENS, HENDERSHOTT, HOXTER, HUBER, ISAMAN, JENKS, KELLEHER, KNAPP, KOONTZ, LUNDRIGAN, MAKELEY, MCDERMOTT, MEHLENBACHER, MERRITT, NEU, NORTHRUP, O"CONNOR, OSINCUP, OXX, PATTERSON, POWERS, QUICK, RAHMLOW, ROBERTSON, ROBINSON, ROOT, RYAN, SLAUGHTER, STOCUM, WADE, WHITE, WILCOX, WRIGHT, VAN OXX, YECKLEY, YOUNG, ZIMMERMAN.

Hello List, as I said in a previous post, I am new to this list and I promised to send my Civil War questions and so here they are: My husband's 3rd great-grandfather was Andrew Jackson Barker. He was born in 1834 in Wilson County, Tennessee and lived his whole life there. He is listed in the 1860 Wilson County census which was enumerated on August 21, 1860. Between this census record and December 3, 1861 (the day he enlisted) he moved his entire family over 100 miles west to Montgomery County, Tennessee. He enlisted in Palmyra, Montgomery County, Tennessee on December 3, 1861. He was with the 49th Tennessee Regiment, Company H. My First Question: Why did he seemingly all of a sudden move west? He had not family in this part of the state. Was he thinking that he could go west and avoid the war and when he got so far, he figured he couldn't out run it, so he enlisted? Did that type of thing happen? Okay, I have a copy of his original military records and this is what they say: ENLISTED: December 3, 1861 in Palmyra, Montgomery County, Tennessee WOUNDED: February 15, 1862 at Fort Donelson, Stewart County, Tennessee, went home PRISONER OF WAR: Captured November 22, 1862 in Montgomery County, Tennessee, age 36, 5' 9 1/2" tall, gray eyes, dark hair, sent to Vicksburg, Mississippi on the steamboat Mary Crane COMPANY MUSTER ROLL: October 20, 1863 at Camp Cummings, Mobile, Alabama, deserted, wounded at Fort Donelson, sent home, not having regiment is dropped from rolls My Second Question: I have a copy of the book "Cry Havoc" written by C. Wallace Cross. This book is about the 49th Tennessee Infantry. It lists everyone that the author could locate that was at the Battle of Fort Donelson which is in Stewart County. When the south lost at this battle, the remaining soldiers were taken prisoner of war from the battle site. Not, Andrew Jackson Barker. As you can see from the information above, he was not taken prisoner of war until 9 months later in Montgomery County. He was wounded in the battle, could he have been taken to an army hospital in Montgomery County? The records says he "went home" could he have been taken prisoner of war at his home while recuperating? Now, he was put on a steamboat named "Mary Crane" and taken to Vicksburg, Mississippi. I have tried to find a photo of this steamboat, but I have learned that it wasn't too long after this battle that it was burned in Cheatham County, Tennessee. My Third Question: My Civil War research has only gone as far as Tennessee. Can anyone tell me if I would find any records on Andrew Jackson Barker's service or imprisonment in Vicksburg or anything in Mobile, Alabama. These areas I am not certain how to pursue? Thank you for letting me tell you my Civil War saga. One funny side note: Andrew Jackson Barker is my husband's ancestor. I also have an ancestor Oliver Coonrod that was with the 49th Ohio Infantry, Company H and was also at the battle of Fort Donelson. I like to tease my husband that my ancestor shot his and I won that battle!!! LOL!! In Christ, Melissa Barker

I am trying to find former Major General William B. Bate's household on the 1870 census. I assume he was in Sumner county at that time. I have been told that one of his daughters who died young was named "Alice" and married a Union Army officer after the war. I have two of the four daughters' info. 1. Mary Irvin "Mazey" Bate - born 1859/60 who married Thomas Masten 2. Susan "Susie" Bate - who married O. B. or O. C. Childs 3. Alice??? Must have been born before 1870 and married by 1880, as she is not in General Bates' household in 1880. 4. Do not know the other child's name or dates. I have heard from a descendant of General Bates' daughter, Alice, but she has been rather ambiguous about her descendancy from General Bates. Regards, W. D. Smith Hillsboro, TN

Hello Melissa, Heavens no, I am not the manager of this list. I would never have the time to devote to the task of being a list manager. I am only a sometimes poster here, and I understand that posting prices is a big no-no on the Rootsweb lists. Apparently Alice did not realize she was sending her message to the entire list instead of to the person who requested a list of her fees. In her postings, Alice is extremely knowledgeable about the Civil War, therefore I believe she would do a good job at researching a soldier. I have hired a professional researcher in my own efforts to find family. The researcher did not turn up anything new, but I was expecting that result so I was not disappointed. Others have not had such a happy result from hiring a researcher. There is a cost to doing any research, a cost that cannot be avoided. Copy machines require money to remain in operation. Electric to maintain a controlled environment for old records is expensive. And all those costs are rising every day. Any hobby has cost, or at least that is what I tell myself. I do expect to pay fees. I expect to pay fees to Archive for someone to look up the folder which contains the letter I would like to read. I expect the cost of traveling to visit the Archive myself. And, as there is a Rootsweb list for everything, I expect there is one for professional researchers. I just like knowing about one I would not hesitate to recommend to a friend who is trying to find a Civil War soldier, and I like being able to suggest the cost. And I am eager to hear your question on your Civil War soldier. Regard, Sherry kaitysmom <[email protected]> wrote: Sherry, I do not know if you are the list manager for the Civil War mailing list, if you are I applaud you and this list for allowing Alice to post her prices. I know that Rootsweb does not allow people to advertise or sell their products and services (although I have seen plenty on rootsweb boards and mailing lists). But in this day and age there are more and more libraries and archives that are raising their copy and service prices to the point that some can not afford to send for information from another state. The local budgets of these libraries and archives are being cut drastically all the time, so they are forced to charge out of state patrons a lot more then people that can just walk in the door and pay a lot less for documents. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

The VA will provide a replacement Marker but it has to be set by the Cemetery, Relatives, or other organization or individuals...Local Camps of the SCV and/or MOSB will usually be helpful in getting a Confederate Marker replaced, however, if this one has a base and an upright, it is likely not one furnished by the VA...All of their markers are like those you see in a National Cemetery, or flat Bronze ones which have to have a base provided by the family...The Website of the VA will give you a photo/drawing of what they offer...Perhaps your Relative's marker was provided by the Family or a Lodge or some other Organization... >From: "Alice J. Gayley" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] MONUMENT RESTORATION QUESTION >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:25:20 -0600 > >Antoinette, > >The Dept. of Veterans' Affairs will replace tombstones and markers: > >http://www.cem.va.gov/hm.htm > >Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen wrote: >>Does anyone know if the VA or another such organization will help in >>"fixing" a monument of a Civil War veteran? I have been sent a picture of >>the monument of my great uncle Starling Waughtel buried in Scipio, >>Indiana. >>A beautiful military monument but the upright portion has come off the >>base >>portion and has been set "leaning" on the base. If anyone can turn me in >>the right direction as to what I might be able to do to get this "fixed" I >>will be forever grateful. This monument/burial is in Indiana and I am out >>here in Washington State so nearly everything will have to be done via >>e-mail and/or snail mail as I don't hear well on a telephone. >>Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) >> >> >> >>==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >>To search our list archives since 1996, go to >>http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>and enter Civil-War in the list name >> >> >> >> > >-- >Alice J. Gayley >Pennsylvania in the Civil War >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] >and in the text area of the message, type only the word >unsubscribe >

Antoinette, I can certainly sympathize with you and all about all the red tape you had to go through to get the stone for your grandfather. About a year or so ago, I went through all the government red tape possible to get replacement medals that my father was awarded during World War II. After I sent in even more proof than they should have ever needed, I only received a WWII Victory Medal, Distinguished Flying Cross, and an Air Medal. They refused to send me his 3 Bronze Service Stars and his Asiatic Pacific Campaign Medal even though I sent in more than enough proof that he got them as I have all of his papers, orders, information on medals awarded, flight logs, etc. I even contacted my Congressman and he couldn't even get through all the red tape to help me. I finally called the White House, talked with a lady there, then faxed all my information to her. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to see the faces on those guys who refused to send me the Bronze Service Stars and the one medal to begin with, especially when they got the order from the White House to send the items. At least I have! ALL of them now....by the way, the originals were destroyed in a house fire my mother had in the early 1980's. I know this is a bit off the subject for the list, but I just wanted to let folks know that when you have the proof for something you need, be persistent, and use every avenue available to get it. Even if it means going to the "top." Edward

The VA will replace markers only. They will not pay for restoration of a monument. That has to be done my private money. Lest We Forget! John D. Avery, PCC U.S. Grant Camp #68 Senior Vice-Commander Dept. of Missouri SUVCW

Alice, Well I'll be dawggone!! I was about ready to post the information on how to get a new stone from the VA when your posting popped up. Wish my old fingers typed and my old eyes read as fast as yours do! Edward

The Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War will help with monument restoration is the vet was a Union soldier. If he was Confederate the Sons of Confederate Veterans with help. You and go to either website for the Department (State organization) for further information. Lest We Forget! John D. Avery, PCC U.S. Grant Camp #68 Senior Vice-Commander Dept. of Missouri SUVCW

Antoinette, The Dept. of Veterans' Affairs will replace tombstones and markers: http://www.cem.va.gov/hm.htm Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen wrote: > Does anyone know if the VA or another such organization will help in > "fixing" a monument of a Civil War veteran? I have been sent a picture of > the monument of my great uncle Starling Waughtel buried in Scipio, Indiana. > A beautiful military monument but the upright portion has come off the base > portion and has been set "leaning" on the base. If anyone can turn me in > the right direction as to what I might be able to do to get this "fixed" I > will be forever grateful. This monument/burial is in Indiana and I am out > here in Washington State so nearly everything will have to be done via > e-mail and/or snail mail as I don't hear well on a telephone. > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > > > -- Alice J. Gayley Pennsylvania in the Civil War http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/

Thank you. I just within the past 5 years had a marker set for my grandfather who served during the Spanish American War. He had a military type funeral, I have the flag, and he is buried at the Soldiers Home Cemetery, as is my grandmother but they refused him a headstone. Claimed he deserted. I have his discharge which had been issued in lieu of lost ~ ~ after fighting the government for 50 years they told me if I paid for it I could have it set. So this I did. His marker matches my grandmother's who died 2 years before him. Not only that but his paper work from 1953 states "Mrs Waughtel's ashes in casket" and she was buried 2 years previously. They are side-by-side. Oh well ~ ~ Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] MONUMENT RESTORATION QUESTION > The VA will provide a replacement Marker but it has to be set by the > Cemetery, Relatives, or other organization or individuals...Local Camps of > the SCV and/or MOSB will usually be helpful in getting a Confederate Marker > replaced, however, if this one has a base and an upright, it is likely not > one furnished by the VA...All of their markers are like those you see in a > National Cemetery, or flat Bronze ones which have to have a base provided by > the family...The Website of the VA will give you a photo/drawing of what > they offer...Perhaps your Relative's marker was provided by the Family or a > Lodge or some other Organization... > > > >From: "Alice J. Gayley" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] MONUMENT RESTORATION QUESTION > >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:25:20 -0600 > > > >Antoinette, > > > >The Dept. of Veterans' Affairs will replace tombstones and markers: > > > >http://www.cem.va.gov/hm.htm > > > >Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen wrote: > >>Does anyone know if the VA or another such organization will help in > >>"fixing" a monument of a Civil War veteran? I have been sent a picture of > >>the monument of my great uncle Starling Waughtel buried in Scipio, > >>Indiana. > >>A beautiful military monument but the upright portion has come off the > >>base > >>portion and has been set "leaning" on the base. If anyone can turn me in > >>the right direction as to what I might be able to do to get this "fixed" I > >>will be forever grateful. This monument/burial is in Indiana and I am out > >>here in Washington State so nearly everything will have to be done via > >>e-mail and/or snail mail as I don't hear well on a telephone. > >>Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > >> > >> > >> > >>==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > >>To search our list archives since 1996, go to > >>http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >>and enter Civil-War in the list name > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >-- > >Alice J. Gayley > >Pennsylvania in the Civil War > >http://www.pa-roots.com/~pacw/ > > > > > > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > >and in the text area of the message, type only the word > >unsubscribe > > > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > >