Well! Thank God it worked. It kept the union together.

"The Emancipation Proclamation" never freed any slaves and ol lyin abe never intended for it to. It was simply a last ditch political move to keep England and France out of the war. Eddie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Emancipation Proclamation <<Sept 22, 1862 - The president issues a preliminary Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves. I was wondering if there was a later "proclamation" other than the EP on Jan 1, 1863, or not? And, I'm wondering what Cosgrove's inspection would have to do with that. Any suggestions?>> The Emancipation Proclamation was issued on Sept 22, 1862 to take effect on Jan 1, 1863. Perhaps they were getting ready to take on the responsibility of freeing those slaves they came in contact with as stated in the EP: "And by virtue of the power and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States and parts of States are, and henceforward shall be, free; and that the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons. " Paula -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name

<<Sept 22, 1862 - The president issues a preliminary Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves. I was wondering if there was a later "proclamation" other than the EP on Jan 1, 1863, or not? And, I'm wondering what Cosgrove's inspection would have to do with that. Any suggestions?>> The Emancipation Proclamation was issued on Sept 22, 1862 to take effect on Jan 1, 1863. Perhaps they were getting ready to take on the responsibility of freeing those slaves they came in contact with as stated in the EP: "And by virtue of the power and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States and parts of States are, and henceforward shall be, free; and that the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons. " Paula -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected]

2nd Texas Cavalry 2nd Arizona Brigade. Battle of Glorieta Pas and the new Mexico campaign. John Philip Adams Texas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] 38th Anyone researching Co "A" 38th GA Regiment ? Roy ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] and in the text area of the message, type only the word unsubscribe

John Philip Adams 125 Red Bud Lane Baytown, Texas 77520 -----Original Message----- From: Joy Stalnaker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] 15th WV Infantry (Union) Michael and Dennis: Thanks for the responses. I truly appreciate it. Whoops! I left out the date. I KNOW better than that. Here's the entry that I transcribed from the Regimental and Letters book. Colonel Mulligan was in command of the First Brigade, Railroad Division under Kelly. Nov 28, 1862 - GO 6 - by order Mulligan 15th would be inspected by Adj Jas F. Cosgrove at 10 am on Dec 1, 1862 - "to meet the view of the President expressed in his late proclamations." I found another site for Lincoln. It's www.historyplace/lincoln/index.html According to the timeline: Sept 22, 1862 - The president issues a preliminary Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves. I was wondering if there was a later "proclamation" other than the EP on Jan 1, 1863, or not? And, I'm wondering what Cosgrove's inspection would have to do with that. Any suggestions? Michael - thanks for your responses re the Articles of War, Army Regulations, etc. I'm sure I'll be back to the list with more questions as they arise. Joy That was December 1, 1862. The EP was exactly a month later. The At 10:12 PM 05/18/2006, Dennis J. Francis wrote: >From: "Joy Stalnaker" <[email protected]> > >>According to an official "Regimental Letters and Orders Book" for the >>15th that I found at the National Archives, Colonel Mulligan, commander >>of the First Brigade, Railroad Division (troops stationed along the B&O >>west of Cumberland), issued an order that Adjutant James F. Cosgrove >>would inspect the Fifteenth on December 1st "to meet the view of the >>President expressed in his late proclamation." WHAT WAS THE PRESIDENT'S >>LATE PROCLAMATION? The only thing I can find is a preview of the >>Emancipation Procolamation that he issued in late November. Doe anyone >>have any clues? >------------------------ >Could very well be the EP but in what year did this happen? >------------------------ >> >>Does anyone have a copy of or can direct me to a copy of the Articles of >>War for Civil War times/ >------------------------ >On line at http://www.usregulars.com/Articles_of_War.html > >Bookwise they are included in "Revised Regulations for the Army of the >United States, 1861", reprint 1980 Nat'l Historical Society, Harrisburg >PA; out-of-print but I've a copy. >They're also in reprints by Stackpole of "Customs of Service for >Non-Commissioned Officers and Soldiers" by August V. Kautz and "The 1863 >Laws of War", and AFAIK these are in print. > >Dennis > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] >and in the text area of the message, type only the word >unsubscribe ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name

>That's a real possibility - and I did not know that. Thanks. > >The Emancipation Proclamation was issued on Sept 22, 1862 to take effect >on Jan 1, 1863. > >Perhaps they were getting ready to take on the responsibility of freeing >those slaves they came in contact with as stated in the EP: "And by >virtue of the power and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare >that all persons held as slaves within said designated States and parts of >States are, and henceforward shall be, free; and that the Executive >Government of the United States, including the military and naval >authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons. " > > >Paula > > >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: [email protected] > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >To search our list archives since 1996, go to >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >and enter Civil-War in the list name

Anyone researching Co "A" 38th GA Regiment ? Roy

Michael and Dennis: Thanks for the responses. I truly appreciate it. Whoops! I left out the date. I KNOW better than that. Here's the entry that I transcribed from the Regimental and Letters book. Colonel Mulligan was in command of the First Brigade, Railroad Division under Kelly. Nov 28, 1862 - GO 6 - by order Mulligan 15th would be inspected by Adj Jas F. Cosgrove at 10 am on Dec 1, 1862 - "to meet the view of the President expressed in his late proclamations." I found another site for Lincoln. It's www.historyplace/lincoln/index.html According to the timeline: Sept 22, 1862 - The president issues a preliminary Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves. I was wondering if there was a later "proclamation" other than the EP on Jan 1, 1863, or not? And, I'm wondering what Cosgrove's inspection would have to do with that. Any suggestions? Michael - thanks for your responses re the Articles of War, Army Regulations, etc. I'm sure I'll be back to the list with more questions as they arise. Joy That was December 1, 1862. The EP was exactly a month later. The At 10:12 PM 05/18/2006, Dennis J. Francis wrote: >From: "Joy Stalnaker" <[email protected]> > >>According to an official "Regimental Letters and Orders Book" for the >>15th that I found at the National Archives, Colonel Mulligan, commander >>of the First Brigade, Railroad Division (troops stationed along the B&O >>west of Cumberland), issued an order that Adjutant James F. Cosgrove >>would inspect the Fifteenth on December 1st "to meet the view of the >>President expressed in his late proclamation." WHAT WAS THE PRESIDENT'S >>LATE PROCLAMATION? The only thing I can find is a preview of the >>Emancipation Procolamation that he issued in late November. Doe anyone >>have any clues? >------------------------ >Could very well be the EP but in what year did this happen? >------------------------ >> >>Does anyone have a copy of or can direct me to a copy of the Articles of >>War for Civil War times/ >------------------------ >On line at http://www.usregulars.com/Articles_of_War.html > >Bookwise they are included in "Revised Regulations for the Army of the >United States, 1861", reprint 1980 Nat'l Historical Society, Harrisburg >PA; out-of-print but I've a copy. >They're also in reprints by Stackpole of "Customs of Service for >Non-Commissioned Officers and Soldiers" by August V. Kautz and "The 1863 >Laws of War", and AFAIK these are in print. > >Dennis > > >==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] >and in the text area of the message, type only the word >unsubscribe

From: "Joy Stalnaker" <[email protected]> > According to an official "Regimental Letters and Orders Book" for the 15th > that I found at the National Archives, Colonel Mulligan, commander of the > First Brigade, Railroad Division (troops stationed along the B&O west of > Cumberland), issued an order that Adjutant James F. Cosgrove would inspect > the Fifteenth on December 1st "to meet the view of the President > expressed in his late proclamation." WHAT WAS THE PRESIDENT'S LATE > PROCLAMATION? The only thing I can find is a preview of the Emancipation > Procolamation that he issued in late November. Doe anyone have any clues? ------------------------ Could very well be the EP but in what year did this happen? ------------------------ > > Does anyone have a copy of or can direct me to a copy of the Articles of > War for Civil War times/ ------------------------ On line at http://www.usregulars.com/Articles_of_War.html Bookwise they are included in "Revised Regulations for the Army of the United States, 1861", reprint 1980 Nat'l Historical Society, Harrisburg PA; out-of-print but I've a copy. They're also in reprints by Stackpole of "Customs of Service for Non-Commissioned Officers and Soldiers" by August V. Kautz and "The 1863 Laws of War", and AFAIK these are in print. Dennis

Joy The Civil War Site you mention with units and those willing to help is http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/unit3.html It is maintained by Carol Botteron and you should write her being very clear about which units your incorrect email is on. Give her the old email address and the new email address you now want used so she can update the list. This is her address: [email protected] As to the the Emancipation Proclamation, it was issued January 1, 1863. So that may not be what you are looking for. Do you have the year involved? Here is a searchable site of Lincoln's papers: http://www.hti.umich.edu/l/lincoln/ "The Articles of War" by that title was a British Naval document: http://www.hms.org.uk/nelsonsnavyarticles.htm A book published by Stackpole most likely has the information you are looking for: The 1863 Laws of War Articles of War Here is a transcription of the 1806 "Rules and Articles of War" these were amended through 1863. The version given here according to the transcriber was used by the Confederate States. A source I found indicates both sides used the same document: http://history-sites.com/mb/cw/arcwmb/index.cgi?noframes;read=8061 General Orders No. 100 Army Regulations General Orders No. 100 (Lieber Code) Is Lincoln's addition to the original 101 Articles of War and is found at: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/law/liebercode.htm Mike Joy Stalnaker wrote: > Hello everyone: > I am listed on the Civil War site as being interested in the 15th WV > Volunteer Infantry and the 3rd West Virginia Infantry/6th West Virginia > Vets Volunteer Cavalry. That is correct, except I have a different > e-mail. My address is now [email protected] > > For nearly a dozen years I have collected data on the 15th WV with the > goal of writing a history of the regiment. Actually, I had about 130 > pages of it written. . . then my husband died. The next thing I > developed writer's block as far as that book was concerned. I'm glad to > say I'm over my blue funk and back writing the book - and that leads me > to my reason for joining the list. I've discovered I have some > questions which even the "mighty Google" doesn't help me find. I'm > hoping some of you can lend some help. > > My first question: > > According to an official "Regimental Letters and Orders Book" for the > 15th that I found at the National Archives, Colonel Mulligan, commander > of the First Brigade, Railroad Division (troops stationed along the B&O > west of Cumberland), issued an order that Adjutant James F. Cosgrove > would inspect the Fifteenth on December 1st "to meet the view of the > President expressed in his late proclamation." WHAT WAS THE PRESIDENT'S > LATE PROCLAMATION? The only thing I can find is a preview of the > Emancipation Procolamation that he issued in late November. Doe anyone > have any clues? > > My second question: > > Does anyone have a copy of or can direct me to a copy of the Articles of > War for Civil War times/ > > Thanks for any help. > > Joy Gilchrist-Stalnaker > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > > >

Hello everyone: I am listed on the Civil War site as being interested in the 15th WV Volunteer Infantry and the 3rd West Virginia Infantry/6th West Virginia Vets Volunteer Cavalry. That is correct, except I have a different e-mail. My address is now [email protected] For nearly a dozen years I have collected data on the 15th WV with the goal of writing a history of the regiment. Actually, I had about 130 pages of it written. . . then my husband died. The next thing I developed writer's block as far as that book was concerned. I'm glad to say I'm over my blue funk and back writing the book - and that leads me to my reason for joining the list. I've discovered I have some questions which even the "mighty Google" doesn't help me find. I'm hoping some of you can lend some help. My first question: According to an official "Regimental Letters and Orders Book" for the 15th that I found at the National Archives, Colonel Mulligan, commander of the First Brigade, Railroad Division (troops stationed along the B&O west of Cumberland), issued an order that Adjutant James F. Cosgrove would inspect the Fifteenth on December 1st "to meet the view of the President expressed in his late proclamation." WHAT WAS THE PRESIDENT'S LATE PROCLAMATION? The only thing I can find is a preview of the Emancipation Procolamation that he issued in late November. Doe anyone have any clues? My second question: Does anyone have a copy of or can direct me to a copy of the Articles of War for Civil War times/ Thanks for any help. Joy Gilchrist-Stalnaker

Check out this website for a story about Mrs. Sidney M. Van Wyck. Genealogy records may provide clues to her husband's history. http://www.calarchives4u.com/women/whotxt/136-159.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Silvius" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Identification of Confederates in unknown burial plot > In Greenhill Cemetery in Martinsburg, WV, there is a plot which was owned > by > the U.D.C. in 1898 where there are thirty Confederate soldiers buried who > were relocated from farms, etc., outside Martinsburg and within Berkeley > County. > > > > Two of these soldiers have been positively identified. > > > > There are two more for whom we have some identification, but not enough to > call it a positive identification. > > > >>From a handwritten committee report and a newspaper item dated Jan. 22, > 1898, when these two soldiers were relocated, they were identified as > Captain Van Wyck and Lieutenant Orr, members of a North Carolina regiment. > Upon closer examination of the original handwritten report, the name is > obviously "lieut. R" - not Orr. Checking the Civil War Soldiers and > Sailors > system website, has not yielded any information on the identity of these > two > men. > > > > Does anyone have information on a North Carolina regiment that was in > Berkeley County, VA (now WV) that had two officers who died or were buried > in (most likely) either Darkesville or Bunker Hill? Lee's retreat from > Gettysburg came through Berkeley County, and parts of the army camped in > both Bunker Hill and Darkesville. There were 72 engagements of all types > (none large) in Berkeley County and Martinsburg changed hands 38 times. > If > anyone can assist in this search it would be greatly appreciated. This is > a > joint SCV, SUV and local historical society project. > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > Don Silvius > > Berkeley County (WV) Historical Society > > Berkeley Border Guards Camp 199, Sons of Confederate Veterans > > GAR Post 1, Abraham Lincoln Camp 1863, Sons of Union Veterans > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

I found a S.M. Van Wyck C. W. Soldiers and Sailors website. Listed as Confederate, but Regiment listed as "General and Staff Officers, Corps, Division and Brigade Staffs, Non-Com. Staffs and Bands, Enlisted Men, Staff Departments C. S. A.". Rank listed as Surgeon. It appears there were not many Van Wycks around. It is not a common name. Good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Silvius" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Identification of Confederates in unknown burial plot > In Greenhill Cemetery in Martinsburg, WV, there is a plot which was owned > by > the U.D.C. in 1898 where there are thirty Confederate soldiers buried who > were relocated from farms, etc., outside Martinsburg and within Berkeley > County. > > > > Two of these soldiers have been positively identified. > > > > There are two more for whom we have some identification, but not enough to > call it a positive identification. > > > >>From a handwritten committee report and a newspaper item dated Jan. 22, > 1898, when these two soldiers were relocated, they were identified as > Captain Van Wyck and Lieutenant Orr, members of a North Carolina regiment. > Upon closer examination of the original handwritten report, the name is > obviously "lieut. R" - not Orr. Checking the Civil War Soldiers and > Sailors > system website, has not yielded any information on the identity of these > two > men. > > > > Does anyone have information on a North Carolina regiment that was in > Berkeley County, VA (now WV) that had two officers who died or were buried > in (most likely) either Darkesville or Bunker Hill? Lee's retreat from > Gettysburg came through Berkeley County, and parts of the army camped in > both Bunker Hill and Darkesville. There were 72 engagements of all types > (none large) in Berkeley County and Martinsburg changed hands 38 times. > If > anyone can assist in this search it would be greatly appreciated. This is > a > joint SCV, SUV and local historical society project. > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > Don Silvius > > Berkeley County (WV) Historical Society > > Berkeley Border Guards Camp 199, Sons of Confederate Veterans > > GAR Post 1, Abraham Lincoln Camp 1863, Sons of Union Veterans > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from list mode, email [email protected] > and in the text area of the message, type only the word > unsubscribe > >

In Greenhill Cemetery in Martinsburg, WV, there is a plot which was owned by the U.D.C. in 1898 where there are thirty Confederate soldiers buried who were relocated from farms, etc., outside Martinsburg and within Berkeley County. Two of these soldiers have been positively identified. There are two more for whom we have some identification, but not enough to call it a positive identification. From a handwritten committee report and a newspaper item dated Jan. 22, 1898, when these two soldiers were relocated, they were identified as Captain Van Wyck and Lieutenant Orr, members of a North Carolina regiment. Upon closer examination of the original handwritten report, the name is obviously "lieut. R" - not Orr. Checking the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors system website, has not yielded any information on the identity of these two men. Does anyone have information on a North Carolina regiment that was in Berkeley County, VA (now WV) that had two officers who died or were buried in (most likely) either Darkesville or Bunker Hill? Lee's retreat from Gettysburg came through Berkeley County, and parts of the army camped in both Bunker Hill and Darkesville. There were 72 engagements of all types (none large) in Berkeley County and Martinsburg changed hands 38 times. If anyone can assist in this search it would be greatly appreciated. This is a joint SCV, SUV and local historical society project. Thanks for your time, Don Silvius Berkeley County (WV) Historical Society Berkeley Border Guards Camp 199, Sons of Confederate Veterans GAR Post 1, Abraham Lincoln Camp 1863, Sons of Union Veterans

> > From: > "Caren Gimper" <[email protected]> > > >Can someone tell me where I can find a good site that shows what civil war uniforms looked like??... > Caren, Send me photocopies or scans (less than 1000 MB each please). Bill Christen 28078 Universal Drive Warren, MI 48092-2430 -- [email protected] Visit our web site, "The Curiosity Shop" http://home.earthlink.net/~gchristen/

I just picked up a book that might help folks with their searches. It is: "Stories in Stone" a field guide to cemetery Symbolism and Iconography. Written and photographed by Douglas Keister. ISBN:1567317763. It is published by Barnes & Noble and is in their bargain section for $9.98 currently.

In a message dated 5/8/2006 12:45:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The hospital you are searching for may have been a field hospital, meaning a tent situation sent up temporarily near a battle field area. ... Another option for searching is to try to track all city hospitals that did exist in that time frame in that area. ... Donna -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Civil War Hospitals In a message dated 5/2/2006 3:08:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: 37th Infantry Regiment of Mississippi. See: http://www.researchonline.net/mscw/unit133.htm as it may help you. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Civil War Hospitals Just wondering if anyone has found any Hospital records for the year 1862 for North Mississippi? Still looking for the grave of my relative who died 20 October 1862 in a Hospital. He was Pvt Needham H. Temples 37th Infantry Regiment of Mississippi. Nothing in his record shows where the Regiment was stationed during the summer and fall of 1862. Thanks Tom Temple I have viewed all the references and I cannot anything on MS Hospitals or where Soldiers died in Hospitals Thanks for the try Tom Temple ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== To search our list archives since 1996, go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Civil-War in the list name Thanks, for your help and advice....I do not know where to try and search as there seems to be very few records on this regiment Tom T.

Caren Since during the civil war the states were volunteering forces, in the beginning each state dressed pretty much the way it wanted and many were militias converted to State regiments, when the federal government supplied the uniforms they would look like US Army issue. In the end all Union forces gravitated towards some form of the US Army uniform. As was mentioned the CSA were much more varied. Mike Caren Gimper wrote: > Thank you for letting me know...I'll go check it out...Caren > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith d bailey" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:00 AM > Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Pictures of Civil War uniforms > > >> Look for the Library of Congress website. They might have a good bit >> on the >> subject. I know my wife looks there to find pics of clothing to >> emulate the >> style for the civilian re-enactment clothing. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> Can someone tell me where I can find a good site that shows what >>> civil war >> >> uniforms looked like??...I searched all over the internet and couldn't >> find >> one...I have a couple photos of a relative that is shown in military >> uniforms, and we're thinking it might be from the civil war... >> >>> >>> Thanks SO much for any help... >>> >>> Caren Gimper >>> Knotz Made >>> [email protected] >>> www.knotzmade.com >> >> >> >> ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== >> To search our list archives since 1996, go to >> http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> and enter Civil-War in the list name >> >> > > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > > >

Look for the Library of Congress website. They might have a good bit on the subject. I know my wife looks there to find pics of clothing to emulate the style for the civilian re-enactment clothing. ----- Original Message ----- > Can someone tell me where I can find a good site that shows what civil war uniforms looked like??...I searched all over the internet and couldn't find one...I have a couple photos of a relative that is shown in military uniforms, and we're thinking it might be from the civil war... > > Thanks SO much for any help... > > Caren Gimper > Knotz Made > [email protected] > www.knotzmade.com

Thank you for letting me know...I'll go check it out...Caren ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith d bailey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Pictures of Civil War uniforms > Look for the Library of Congress website. They might have a good bit on > the > subject. I know my wife looks there to find pics of clothing to emulate > the > style for the civilian re-enactment clothing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> Can someone tell me where I can find a good site that shows what civil >> war > uniforms looked like??...I searched all over the internet and couldn't > find > one...I have a couple photos of a relative that is shown in military > uniforms, and we're thinking it might be from the civil war... >> >> Thanks SO much for any help... >> >> Caren Gimper >> Knotz Made >> [email protected] >> www.knotzmade.com > > > ==== CIVIL-WAR Mailing List ==== > To search our list archives since 1996, go to > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter Civil-War in the list name > >