If you are interested in the blockade runners in the Carolinas during the CW, this has a lot of "first hand" information. CHRONICLES OF THE CAPE FEAR RIVER BEING SOME ACCOUNT OF HISTORIC EVENTS ON THE CAPE FEAR RIVER BY JAMES SPUNT 1914 This 611 page book (11 page index) gives general information about the Cape Fear area and personal knowledge of the blockade runners in that area during the Civil War. Here is the information on the book. If your local library does not have it and you cannot borrow it from the loaning library, you might want to check into this website. dmkheritage.com they have it on CD. The index is also on the website. Table of Contents EXPLORATION AND SETTLEMENT: Origin of Cape Fear; Sources and Tributaries‑Cape Fear Indiana‑Archaeology of New Hanover‑Indian Mounds‑The Indians of the Lower Cape Fear‑First Attempted Settlement‑Charlestown‑‑Report of Commissioners to Explore‑Sandford's Account of Conditions at Charlestown‑The End of Charlestown‑The Pirates . PERMANENT SETTLEMENT: Brunswick‑A Visit to the Cape Fear, THE REVOLUTION: The Institution of the Revolutionary Government Proceedings of the Committee of Safety‑Colonial Officers‑Whigs and Tories‑The Battle of Elizabethtown ‑ Flora Macdonald‑ Major Jack Walker EARLY YEARS: The First Steamboat‑ The Disastrous Year of 1819‑ Negro Insurrection‑Plantations on the Northeast —Old St. James‑ First Cape Fear River Improvements Aids to Navigation‑Fayetteville NOTABLE INCIDENTS; Visits of Presidents before the War THE WAR BETWEEN THE STATES On the Eve or Secession George Davis‑Answer to Lincoln's Call for Troops A Capture before the War‑Early War Times‑During the War‑The Blockade‑The Cruisers‑A Port of Refuge Changes During the War‑The Pestilence‑ Mrs. DeRosset War Prices‑Record of the Officers‑The Roster of Camp Cape Fear U. C. V.‑Fort Fisher and Other Defenses Cape Fear Pilots BLOCKADERUNNING: Financial Estimate of Blockade Running‑ North Carolina Steamer Advance‑Captain Wilkinson Usina‑Taylor‑‑Rescue of Madame DeRosset‑Improved ships and Notable Commanders‑Famous Blockade Runners‑ A Close Call‑The Kate‑The British Flag‑Closing Scenes‑ The Confederate Navy‑Wilmington During the Blockade‑Lines to Mrs. Greenhow‑Capture of Wilmington PEACE RESTORED: Resumption of Commerce‑Disastrous Fires ‑ Cuba Man‑of‑War Incident‑Federal Government Improvements, Upper Cape Fear‑Board of Commissioners of Navigation and Pilateage‑U. S. Revenue Cutter Service ‑Cape Fear Life Saving Service‑Cape Fear Aids to Navigation‑Use of oil to Prevent Breaking Seas‑. Caswell‑Coastal Canal Project‑Congressional Aid to River Improvement‑City and Port of Wilmington Cape Fear Newspapers‑ The Revolution of 1898 ‑The Atlantic Coast Line‑The Seaboard Air Line‑ Hugh MacRae's Projects‑Tide‑Water Power Co.‑The River Counties‑The Growth of Wilmington‑Looking Forward. For index: http://www.dmkheritage.com/store/index.php? act=viewProd&productId=14

You may consider asking your State Archives for his records. They are a lot cheaper than NARA...Also you may try the HISTORY SITES.COM MESSAGE BOARDS AND POST AMESSAGE ON YOUR STATE BOARD ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Dear Manaia: I have sent for and received several Civil War records for my family members. None listed the names of their parents. The pension application information has been the best source of information. Always ask for the complete file. One complete file I asked for was quite large but contained some really great family information. I had to pay extra for it and it was worth the charge. Lyle ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Although it is rare to find information about a soldier's parents, I have seen a few instances where a soldier's mother was named in a pension file because she was a witness for her son's claim. Roger Lester manaia alofa wrote: > HI: > > If I were to request civil war records from the NARA, > what info would I be privy to? > > I am on a trail of a deserter (per family historian) > enlisting in Kentucky in 1863. > > I am hunting for any info regarding his parents. Would > civil war records have that info? > > Thanks kindly to everyone's > thoughts/comments/suggestions. > .... > > Regards, > --Manaia > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Roger: Your response is so appreciated and as I have told Lyle I will let everyone in on the findings now - <G>. Thanks kindly. .... Regards, --Manaia ++++ --- Roger Lester <fishnut89@gmail.com> wrote: > Although it is rare to find information about a > soldier's parents, I > have seen a few instances where a soldier's mother > was named in a > pension file because she was a witness for her son's > claim. > > > Roger Lester ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Hello Lyle: Gratitudes! Soon as I come back from seeing Cirque du Soleil (Kooza), I will proceed as recommended. I will let you know of my findings. Thanks so kindly. .... Best Wishes, --Manaia ++++ --- Wvlyle@aol.com wrote: > Dear Manaia: > > I have sent for and received several Civil War > records for my family > members. None listed the names of their parents. > The pension application > information has been the best source of information. > Always ask for the complete > file. One complete file I asked for was quite large > but contained some really > great family information. I had to pay extra for it > and it was worth the > charge. Lyle ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

HI: If I were to request civil war records from the NARA, what info would I be privy to? I am on a trail of a deserter (per family historian) enlisting in Kentucky in 1863. I am hunting for any info regarding his parents. Would civil war records have that info? Thanks kindly to everyone's thoughts/comments/suggestions. .... Regards, --Manaia ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Thanks, Mike. Bureaucracy went through my mind too. One thing I forgot to mention; they didn't record the state of birth. For U.S. born soldiers, the notation was simply U.S. For all others they entered the country where they were born: England, Ireland, Italy, etc. Alice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ruddy" <mpruddy@gmail.com> To: <civil-war@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [CIVIL-WAR] Confederate Prison Records > Alice > Bureaucracy is always the safe answer. I can guess that it may have been > used to separate immigrants who fought from natural born citizens --- > also it might have been important to know who might bear watching, i.e. > someone from the South fighting for the North -- But probably the best > reason is the same one we use nowadays, birth registration is one of the > few ways to certify who a person really is. > Mike > > Alice Gayley wrote: >> In answering the previous message, I recalled something I've wondered >> about for some time. >> I found the following at the National Archives and extracted the soldiers >> from PA for my PA in the Civil War website: >> List of Federal Troops Captured at Reams Station on August 25, 1864 and >> Received at Confederate Military Prisons in Richmond, August 27, 1864. >> Record Group 249, No. 129. >> The Confederates recorded the following data items for each prisoner: >> Name, Rank, Regiment, Company, and Birthplace. My question is why did >> they record the place of birth? >> I'd appreciate any insight any of you have to offer. >> Thanks, >> Alice Gayley >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Alice Bureaucracy is always the safe answer. I can guess that it may have been used to separate immigrants who fought from natural born citizens --- also it might have been important to know who might bear watching, i.e. someone from the South fighting for the North -- But probably the best reason is the same one we use nowadays, birth registration is one of the few ways to certify who a person really is. Mike Alice Gayley wrote: > In answering the previous message, I recalled something I've wondered about for some time. > I found the following at the National Archives and extracted the soldiers from PA for my PA in the Civil War website: > List of Federal Troops Captured at Reams Station on August 25, 1864 and Received at Confederate Military Prisons in Richmond, August 27, 1864. Record Group 249, No. 129. > The Confederates recorded the following data items for each prisoner: Name, Rank, Regiment, Company, and Birthplace. My question is why did they record the place of birth? > I'd appreciate any insight any of you have to offer. > Thanks, > Alice Gayley >

In answering the previous message, I recalled something I've wondered about for some time. I found the following at the National Archives and extracted the soldiers from PA for my PA in the Civil War website: List of Federal Troops Captured at Reams Station on August 25, 1864 and Received at Confederate Military Prisons in Richmond, August 27, 1864. Record Group 249, No. 129. The Confederates recorded the following data items for each prisoner: Name, Rank, Regiment, Company, and Birthplace. My question is why did they record the place of birth? I'd appreciate any insight any of you have to offer. Thanks, Alice Gayley

I doubt that there are any Libby prison records on-line. I have found some ledgers/registers at the National Archives here in Washington, DC. This is not a complete set; only a few of the registers survived the burning of Richmond at the end of the war. Alice Gayley ----- Original Message ----- From: <alarue3325@aol.com> To: <civil-war@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Libby Prison Records > Are there records online for Libby Prison? I did a search and found none. > > Looking for?the prison record?of William C. Armstrong who was a prisoner > in Libby > for three months. How he was captured, etc. > > > Census 1890 Veterans Schedule Trenton, Mercer Co., NJ > > William C. Armstrong Enlisted as a Private on Sept 4, 1861; > > Enlisted in Co. D, 1st Cavalry Regiment New Jersey on Sept 9, 1861 > > for period of 3 years.? > Mustered out on Sept 16, 1864, served 3 yrs 0 mos 0 da. > In Libby Prison three months. > > > New Jersey State Archives Civil War, page 1203 has him as > Deserted Dec. 4, 1861; returned to duty March 29, 1862. > I think the December 4th to March 29th was when he was in Libby prison. > I thought they shot deserters. > > Alice > New Jersey State Archives Civil War, page 1203 has him as > Deserted Dec. 4, 1861; returned to duty March > > In Libby Prison three months. > > > New Jersey State Archives Civil War, page 1203 has him as > Deserted Dec. 4, 1861; returned to duty March 29, 1862. > I think the December 4th to March 29th was when he was in Libby prison. > I thought they shot deserters. > > Alice > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Are there records online for Libby Prison? I did a search and found none. Looking for?the prison record?of William C. Armstrong who was a prisoner in Libby for three months. How he was captured, etc. Census 1890 Veterans Schedule Trenton, Mercer Co., NJ William C. Armstrong Enlisted as a Private on Sept 4, 1861; Enlisted in Co. D, 1st Cavalry Regiment New Jersey on Sept 9, 1861 for period of 3 years.? Mustered out on Sept 16, 1864, served 3 yrs 0 mos 0 da. In Libby Prison three months. New Jersey State Archives Civil War, page 1203 has him as Deserted Dec. 4, 1861; returned to duty March 29, 1862. I think the December 4th to March 29th was when he was in Libby prison. I thought they shot deserters. Alice New Jersey State Archives Civil War, page 1203 has him as Deserted Dec. 4, 1861; returned to duty March In Libby Prison three months. New Jersey State Archives Civil War, page 1203 has him as Deserted Dec. 4, 1861; returned to duty March 29, 1862. I think the December 4th to March 29th was when he was in Libby prison. I thought they shot deserters. Alice ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Hello, While doing a look-up in the "KIDDER book," I found this Charles KIDDER from MA, who died in 1863 in NYC - while waiting for "orders" to fight in the War. It makes me wonder what his "military record" says. Betty (near Lowell, MA) We may have arrived on different ships but we're all in the same boat now. :o) (unknown author) 749 CHARLES AUGUSTUS KIDDER (Jedediah, Jedediah, Samuel, Richard, Ephraim, James), born at Sterling, Mass., 31 Oct. 1832; died at New York City, 16 Jan. 1863. He married at West Boylston, Mass., 8 Jan. 1857, MARTHA ESTHER THOMAS, born there, 12 Aug. 1836; died there, 29 Jan. 1921, daughter of William Thomas. He was a tailor of Sterling, Mass. He enlisted for war service, and while awaiting orders in New York City, died of pneumonia. Children, born at Sterling: i. HELEN MARTHA, b. 10 Oct. 1857; m. at West Boylston, 24 Sept. 1890, MOSES B. KAVIN, born at Plymouth, Mass., son of James and Harriet (Bamfield) Kavin. 1153 ii. CHARLES THOMAS, b. 28 June 1864.

Betty Here is a possibility: Charles A. Kidder Residence Sterling MA; a 28 year-old Tailor. Enlisted on 9/6/1862 as a Private. On 10/17/1862 he mustered into "K" Co. MA 53rd Infantry He died of disease on 1/16/1863 at New York, NY If this is your man, it is pot-luck what might be found in the file. The good news is that widow Margaret A Kidder applied for a pension and there was also a minor, which might provide genealogical data. Mike Betty wrote: > Hello, > While doing a look-up in the "KIDDER book," I found this Charles KIDDER > from MA, who died in 1863 in NYC - while waiting for "orders" to fight in > the War. > It makes me wonder what his "military record" says. > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > We may have arrived on different ships but we're all in the same boat now. > :o) > (unknown author) >

Thanks for the explanation.

Assuming you are referring to Union pensions, the claimant (or "Invalid") if granted a pension received it until he died. Upon his death, his widow (or in her absence) his minor children or parents were eligible, and. if approved, were eligible to receive a pension until the end of their eligibility. In the case of his widow, she was eligible until she remarried or until her death. His parents, if awarded a pension, were eligible until they died or remarried. If his minor children were awarded a pension, they would have received the pension until they reached their majority. Hope this helps, Alice Gayley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Fanslau" <efanslau@hotmail.com> To: <CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: [CIVIL-WAR] Federal Military Pension Application-Civil War and Later Complete File >I just ordered the complete file from the National Archives and was > wondering how long did the veteran or claimant receive a pension? > Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CIVIL-WAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just ordered the complete file from the National Archives and was wondering how long did the veteran or claimant receive a pension? Thanks.

Afternoon yall, I have lately seen a number of postings with individuals from Miss and Ala mentioned. I am interested in anyone having any date on anyone in Brig Gen Daniel RUGGLES 1st Div of Braggs Corps Anderson, Pond and others commanded under him. OR.... any individuals that served under him both before and after Shiloh. Possibly in Va in the early part of 1861 (aquia creek) or in Miss and Fla after Shiloh. Bill ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In a message dated 11/8/2007 7:06:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Frye@pstel.net writes: If you guys dont mind me adding a few words, I need to say that Ancestry.com is not always an accurate record when it comes to POWS and especially when it mentions Andersonville. I think all the records are Federal, and there is always the indexing errors but these are actual documents and a treasure to be able to get. Especially when your family is too stupid [and they were doctors yet!!] to avoid multiple captures <G> and I hope that was a joke. But I bless them for it since it is so full of information. Eliz ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

List, this is a section of one of the stories from 'Famous Adventures and Prison Escapes' by G.W. Cable [1885] which I have transcribed for use at Mike Goad's Civil War website - if you want to read the remainder of this story and many others, please visit his excellent site which includes new material posted daily. It's called "Chronicles of the American Civil War - Anecdotes, Incidents, Articles and Images of the War" and is located at http://cw-chronicles.com/anecdotes/ Also, "Daily Chronicles of the American Civil War" (http://www.cw-chronicles.com/blog/) is where he republishes daily news, diary entries, and other material from the current date in a year during the civil war, currently publishing public domain material from 1863. Linda No Easy Matter. It thus became no easy matter to drive the Rangers from a territory so dear to them, and in which they were befriended by all. On two occasions the entire Federal army operating against General Lee passed through Mosby's Confederacy, and yet his men did not abandon it. They hid themselves in the mountains during the day, and descended upon the enemy at night. They thus observed every movement of the Federal army, and all valuable information was promptly sent to the Confederate general. On one of these occasions, June 17, 1863, Mosby found himself at ten o'clock at night between the infantry and cavalry commands of General Hooker's army. Observing three horses hitched near a house, with an orderly standing by, he left his command with the prisoners already captured, and taking with him three men, rode up to the orderly and was informed by him that the horses belonged to Major William R. Sterling and another officer. In a whisper he said to the orderly: "My name is Mosby. Keep quiet!" The man understood him to say that he (the orderly) was "Mosby," and very indignantly replied: "No, sir, I am as good a Union man as ever walked the earth." "Those are just the sort I am after," said Mosby. Just then the two officers emerged from the house. As they approached, one of the Rangers stretched out his hand to disarm the major. Supposing him to be an acquaintance, Major Sterling offered his hand in return, but was overwhelmed with surprise when informed that he was a prisoner. Upon examination he was found to be the bearer of important despatches from General Hooker to his chief of cavalry, General Pleasonton. These despatches, which developed the contemplated movements of the army and directed the cooperation of the cavalry, were placed in General Stuart's hands by dawn of day. On this and many similar occasions information furnished by the Rangers proved invaluable to the Confederate generals. * transcribed & submitted by Linda C Schmidt, 11 November 2007. MOSBY's "PARTIZAN RANGERS" by A.E. Richards; Famous Adventures and Prison Escapes of the Civil War, G.W. Cable, ed. New York: The Century Co., 1923 [originally published in 1885]; p.108-109.