You can cross me off of your list. I have no knowledge of the surname you are searching. A hint to finding your ancestors since you have dates is to go to census reports. 1850 is the start of the most complete records in the US> Also if you can find specific places where they were located in MS it would be helpful., Good Luck, Jeri ________________________________ From: CHOCTAW-SURNAMES <choctaw-surnames-bounces+colorway=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Richard Ricardo Waldrop <rewaldrop@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 6:31 PM To: choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Jamerson surname Hello all, I am new at this so I appreciate your patience. How would I go about getting information on a Polly Jamerson (my great, great, great grandmother) born Dec. 30, 1815, died Nov. 12, 1871, and her father, Jefferson Jamerson, both said to be full Choctaws presumably from present day Mississippi? Thank you. Richard E. Waldrop Sent from my iPhone Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm [https://www.accessgenealogy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Choctaw-Eagle-Dance-2.jpg]<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm> Choctaw Tribe – Access Genealogy<http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm> www.accessgenealogy.com Choctaw Tribe: An extensive resource for researching the facts, history, culture, genealogy, names, towns, treaties or ethnology of the Choctaw Nation ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You should try Choctaw Nation 1 800 522 6170. Then ask for Vickie she works in the genealogy, If they had a Roll number she may be able to help you. wish I could help more. I was, where you are not so many years ago. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ricardo Waldrop Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 10:31 AM To: choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Jamerson surname Hello all, I am new at this so I appreciate your patience. How would I go about getting information on a Polly Jamerson (my great, great, great grandmother) born Dec. 30, 1815, died Nov. 12, 1871, and her father, Jefferson Jamerson, both said to be full Choctaws presumably from present day Mississippi? Thank you. Richard E. Waldrop Sent from my iPhone Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might try a query on rootsweb.com. There are supposed to be lots of free sites, but I haven't found any. You can search for free, but you have to join to see any results. And most sites just take you to ancestry.com. Google used to be a good search engine, but it's not anymore. Try FindAGrave.com. You have to join to add or edit anything, but it is free.  Sent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone -------- Original message -----From: Richard Ricardo Waldrop <rewaldrop@gmail.com> Date: 11/24/17 12:31 PM (GMT-06:00)To: choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Jamerson surname Hello all, I am new at this so I appreciate your patience. How would I go about getting information on a Polly Jamerson (my great, great, great grandmother) born Dec. 30, 1815, died Nov. 12, 1871, and her father, Jefferson Jamerson, both said to be full Choctaws presumably from present day Mississippi? Thank you. Richard E. Waldrop Sent from my iPhone Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, I am new at this so I appreciate your patience. How would I go about getting information on a Polly Jamerson (my great, great, great grandmother) born Dec. 30, 1815, died Nov. 12, 1871, and her father, Jefferson Jamerson, both said to be full Choctaws presumably from present day Mississippi? Thank you. Richard E. Waldrop Sent from my iPhone

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Im still here . I can't remember what name it was under can't find the name you posted. -----Original Message----- From: choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of c.a.brookins@juno.com via Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:50 PM To: coloradomommom@yahoo.com; choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com Cc: choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Surnames My great grandmother's last name was Hayes, Her first name was Ollie. Billy McBride sent me an excerpt from the Dawes Roll several years ago, but my computer crashed and I lost that email. I have not been successful in finding it again. Anyone who can help, I;d appreciate it. Catherine Sims ____________________________________________________________ Best Credit Cards Of 2015 http://www.nextadvisor.com/images/uploads/Gold-Chip-75x75.jpg http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/566653a717e353a65d44st04duc Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great grandmother's last name was Hayes, Her first name was Ollie. Billy McBride sent me an excerpt from the Dawes Roll several years ago, but my computer crashed and I lost that email. I have not been successful in finding it again. Anyone who can help, I;d appreciate it. Catherine Sims ____________________________________________________________ Best Credit Cards Of 2015 http://www.nextadvisor.com/images/uploads/Gold-Chip-75x75.jpg http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/566653a717e353a65d44st04duc

Surname Bond and James  Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Lee Allen via <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> Date: 11/24/2015 9:06 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Jeff Junior <jeffjunior2@yahoo.com>, choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Surnames Part of the message I received requested that we send in the Choctaw surnames we know of. In response, I submit the surnames Tyra, Bryant, Hays/Hayes, and Tomlinson. -----Original Message----- From: "Jeff Junior via" <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: ‎11/‎23/‎2015 10:35 PM To: "Helen West" <hj29west@yahoo.com>; "choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com" <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Surnames Hello All, The DNA test is good, but if you're not full-blood, the test may only show the genetically dominant ethnicity. I did the DNA Ancestry Project, paternal, since this is through which I have my Choctaw ethnicity.  Not all of the markers were from Engola, but most were, because that's the only ethnicity stated on my results.  But there were many other markers.  I did an internet search for Native American DNA markers, found them, and compared to my DNA results.  Between 1/4 and 1/3 of my paternal DNA is Native American.   Jeff Junior     On Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:06 PM, Helen West via <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello, I would love to have everyone send in just the Choctaw surnames they know of.If someone has a match we may be able to share information..The Rolls are a problem with my family.also. If you were enrolled then you could not own land anywhere,except if two white land owners wrote letters saying you were all right. That wasamong other things. Land was the only wealth for most people. My Grandfather was born in Choctaw Terr. now OK.around c.1869. White settlers came in the village told them to get out by morning. They returned during the night and killed most. Since the South neededworkers, they picked up any orphaned  children, or just went in and took children. After the Civil Warthe US Government did not have the money to uphold Indian Treaties. Things were a mess..  My grandfather was an excellent Horseman. He was called Horse by the family. In about 1898, he took hishorse and fought with Teddy Roosevelt in Cuba. He was not important enough to be mentioned in Teddy'sbookThat wonderful   www.23 and me. com.  proved my Indian Heritage. Well worth having your.DNA done.Helen Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Part of the message I received requested that we send in the Choctaw surnames we know of. In response, I submit the surnames Tyra, Bryant, Hays/Hayes, and Tomlinson. -----Original Message----- From: "Jeff Junior via" <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: ‎11/‎23/‎2015 10:35 PM To: "Helen West" <hj29west@yahoo.com>; "choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com" <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Surnames Hello All, The DNA test is good, but if you're not full-blood, the test may only show the genetically dominant ethnicity. I did the DNA Ancestry Project, paternal, since this is through which I have my Choctaw ethnicity.  Not all of the markers were from Engola, but most were, because that's the only ethnicity stated on my results.  But there were many other markers.  I did an internet search for Native American DNA markers, found them, and compared to my DNA results.  Between 1/4 and 1/3 of my paternal DNA is Native American.   Jeff Junior On Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:06 PM, Helen West via <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello, I would love to have everyone send in just the Choctaw surnames they know of.If someone has a match we may be able to share information..The Rolls are a problem with my family.also. If you were enrolled then you could not own land anywhere,except if two white land owners wrote letters saying you were all right. That wasamong other things. Land was the only wealth for most people. My Grandfather was born in Choctaw Terr. now OK.around c.1869. White settlers came in the village told them to get out by morning. They returned during the night and killed most. Since the South neededworkers, they picked up any orphaned  children, or just went in and took children. After the Civil Warthe US Government did not have the money to uphold Indian Treaties. Things were a mess..  My grandfather was an excellent Horseman. He was called Horse by the family. In about 1898, he took hishorse and fought with Teddy Roosevelt in Cuba. He was not important enough to be mentioned in Teddy'sbookThat wonderful   www.23 and me. com.  proved my Indian Heritage. Well worth having your.DNA done.Helen Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, The DNA test is good, but if you're not full-blood, the test may only show the genetically dominant ethnicity. I did the DNA Ancestry Project, paternal, since this is through which I have my Choctaw ethnicity.  Not all of the markers were from Engola, but most were, because that's the only ethnicity stated on my results.  But there were many other markers.  I did an internet search for Native American DNA markers, found them, and compared to my DNA results.  Between 1/4 and 1/3 of my paternal DNA is Native American.   Jeff Junior On Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:06 PM, Helen West via <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello, I would love to have everyone send in just the Choctaw surnames they know of.If someone has a match we may be able to share information..The Rolls are a problem with my family.also. If you were enrolled then you could not own land anywhere,except if two white land owners wrote letters saying you were all right. That wasamong other things. Land was the only wealth for most people. My Grandfather was born in Choctaw Terr. now OK.around c.1869. White settlers came in the village told them to get out by morning. They returned during the night and killed most. Since the South neededworkers, they picked up any orphaned  children, or just went in and took children. After the Civil Warthe US Government did not have the money to uphold Indian Treaties. Things were a mess..  My grandfather was an excellent Horseman. He was called Horse by the family. In about 1898, he took hishorse and fought with Teddy Roosevelt in Cuba. He was not important enough to be mentioned in Teddy'sbookThat wonderful   www.23 and me. com.  proved my Indian Heritage. Well worth having your.DNA done.Helen Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Choctaw research has the names, Jones, Neeley and Cryor. Jones, as in Charley Jones, one of the signers of the Dancing Rabbit Treaty.

My Choctaw research includes King, McBride, Blue -----Original Message----- From: choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Erin Spiceland via Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:27 AM To: Jillian Tolley; choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com; Helen West Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Surnames My Choctaw research includes Pitchlynn, Folsom, Brashears, McCoy, Thompson, Durant, LeFlore, Riddle, Cravatt, Cole, McLish/McClish, McCurtain, King, Bohanan, Bynum, and Nail. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:26 AM Jillian Tolley via < choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> wrote: > BACON > That's the only surname that I have any knowledge in. > Regards, > Jillian S. Tolley > On Nov 22, 2015 6:05 PM, "Helen West via" > <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, I would love to have everyone send in just the Choctaw > > surnames they know of.If someone has a match we may be able to share > > information..The Rolls are a problem with my family.also. If you > > were enrolled then you could not own land anywhere,except if two > > white land owners wrote letters saying you were all right. That > > wasamong other > things. > > Land was the only wealth for most people. > > My Grandfather was born in Choctaw Terr. now OK.around c.1869. White > > settlers came in the village told them to get out by morning. They > returned > > during the night and killed most. Since the South neededworkers, > > they picked up any orphaned children, or just went in and took children. > After > > the Civil Warthe US Government did not have the money to uphold > > Indian Treaties. Things were a mess.. > > My grandfather was an excellent Horseman. He was called Horse by the > > family. In about 1898, he took hishorse and fought with Teddy > > Roosevelt > in > > Cuba. He was not important enough to be mentioned in Teddy'sbookThat > > wonderful www.23 and me. com. proved my Indian Heritage. Well worth > > having your.DNA done.Helen > > Choctaw Indian History > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Choctaw Indian History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Choctaw research includes Pitchlynn, Folsom, Brashears, McCoy, Thompson, Durant, LeFlore, Riddle, Cravatt, Cole, McLish/McClish, McCurtain, King, Bohanan, Bynum, and Nail. On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:26 AM Jillian Tolley via < choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> wrote: > BACON > That's the only surname that I have any knowledge in. > Regards, > Jillian S. Tolley > On Nov 22, 2015 6:05 PM, "Helen West via" <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, I would love to have everyone send in just the Choctaw surnames > > they know of.If someone has a match we may be able to share > > information..The Rolls are a problem with my family.also. If you were > > enrolled then you could not own land anywhere,except if two white land > > owners wrote letters saying you were all right. That wasamong other > things. > > Land was the only wealth for most people. > > My Grandfather was born in Choctaw Terr. now OK.around c.1869. White > > settlers came in the village told them to get out by morning. They > returned > > during the night and killed most. Since the South neededworkers, they > > picked up any orphaned children, or just went in and took children. > After > > the Civil Warthe US Government did not have the money to uphold Indian > > Treaties. Things were a mess.. > > My grandfather was an excellent Horseman. He was called Horse by the > > family. In about 1898, he took hishorse and fought with Teddy Roosevelt > in > > Cuba. He was not important enough to be mentioned in Teddy'sbookThat > > wonderful www.23 and me. com. proved my Indian Heritage. Well worth > > having your.DNA done.Helen > > Choctaw Indian History > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Choctaw Indian History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I would love to have everyone send in just the Choctaw surnames they know of.If someone has a match we may be able to share information..The Rolls are a problem with my family.also. If you were enrolled then you could not own land anywhere,except if two white land owners wrote letters saying you were all right. That wasamong other things. Land was the only wealth for most people. My Grandfather was born in Choctaw Terr. now OK.around c.1869. White settlers came in the village told them to get out by morning. They returned during the night and killed most. Since the South neededworkers, they picked up any orphaned  children, or just went in and took children. After the Civil Warthe US Government did not have the money to uphold Indian Treaties. Things were a mess..  My grandfather was an excellent Horseman. He was called Horse by the family. In about 1898, he took hishorse and fought with Teddy Roosevelt in Cuba. He was not important enough to be mentioned in Teddy'sbookThat wonderful   www.23 and me. com.  proved my Indian Heritage. Well worth having your.DNA done.Helen

Hello Jeri and All, My direct line never mad it to the rolls either, by choice or chance, I'll probably never know. A line of inlaws did (Harmon).  Accounts given by both relatives and chruch friends from there, a great uncle and older cousins hearing Choctaw spoken, hearing that English was the second language with that accent, and a very few survivng photos. Slavery also blocks my search.  I even found the family of the plantation owners who hid my full-blood ancestor from the trail of tears, and the names/listing given match completely.  They won't respond. Me: Jeff JuniorChoctaw ancestor: Willis Mann, 1849 - 1952Place: Choctaw County, AL On Sunday, November 22, 2015 10:00 AM, Jeri Beitel via <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> wrote: First let me say that I know nothing about the Bacon family. I am replying mainly to your questions about naming patterns and mating patterns in the past up and until the 1st qtr of the 20th century. First of all it was common to repeat names of relative and ancestors when naming children. For example, I was named after my aunt, who was named after her grandfather. My mother was named after her grandmother and an aunt.   As far as mating patterns, it was not uncommon for relatives and ethnic crosses to mate, especially in closed societies like small native enclaves and people who lived in relative isolation like wilderness situations where there were limited possibilities for partners. Think of history where the population was sparse in many areas. I know it's hard think of this today when so many people populate this country.   I hope this helps in answering part of your query. In my own case I can tell you that my native heritage quest has been limited because they never made it on the rolls.   Jerry(Jeri) Sammons Beitel      ________________________________________ From: choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com <choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Jillian Tolley via <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:04 AM To: CHOCTAW-SURNAMES@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Bacon family, Choctaw I've recently started doing some family geneology research and I have a few questions.. Im new at this so please bear with me... I have noticed that the females in my family, including myself, all have the name Susan somewhere in our names. Susan is my middle name, my grandmother's birth name was Susan, and so was her mother's. I was wondering if this was just a traditional thing that applied to just my family or was it common practice? My grandmother was born in 1913... my great grandfather is Silas Bacon dawes card #894 enrollment #2373 (1870-1927). He had numerous children with quite a few different women. There are no official marriage records that I am aware of. One of Silas's "wives" , Sallie Bacon dawes card #894, enrollment #2374 had a daughter Susan Bacon dawes card# 894, enrollment # 2377. On the Choctaw Roll Susan Bacon's father is listed as James Durant of Jackson County, and it also states that Silas Bacon is Susan Bacon's Step father. After Sallie Bacon had passed away in 1911, Silas and Susan Bacon gave birth to my Grandmother Susan Irene Bacon on 8 September 1913. Were those kinds of relationships normal back then? Seems really strange to me. My grandmother never spoke too much about her parents other than the fact that they died when she was little. Also, I've hit a dead end with Silas Bacon's parents. On the enrollment card it states his father as Dennis Bacon and mother was Litey Bacon both were dead during the time of enrollment and died in Cedar county, Antlers Indian Territory. Any information or push in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jillian S. Tolley Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BACON That's the only surname that I have any knowledge in. Regards, Jillian S. Tolley On Nov 22, 2015 6:05 PM, "Helen West via" <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello, I would love to have everyone send in just the Choctaw surnames > they know of.If someone has a match we may be able to share > information..The Rolls are a problem with my family.also. If you were > enrolled then you could not own land anywhere,except if two white land > owners wrote letters saying you were all right. That wasamong other things. > Land was the only wealth for most people. > My Grandfather was born in Choctaw Terr. now OK.around c.1869. White > settlers came in the village told them to get out by morning. They returned > during the night and killed most. Since the South neededworkers, they > picked up any orphaned children, or just went in and took children. After > the Civil Warthe US Government did not have the money to uphold Indian > Treaties. Things were a mess.. > My grandfather was an excellent Horseman. He was called Horse by the > family. In about 1898, he took hishorse and fought with Teddy Roosevelt in > Cuba. He was not important enough to be mentioned in Teddy'sbookThat > wonderful www.23 and me. com. proved my Indian Heritage. Well worth > having your.DNA done.Helen > Choctaw Indian History > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

First let me say that I know nothing about the Bacon family. I am replying mainly to your questions about naming patterns and mating patterns in the past up and until the 1st qtr of the 20th century. First of all it was common to repeat names of relative and ancestors when naming children. For example, I was named after my aunt, who was named after her grandfather. My mother was named after her grandmother and an aunt. As far as mating patterns, it was not uncommon for relatives and ethnic crosses to mate, especially in closed societies like small native enclaves and people who lived in relative isolation like wilderness situations where there were limited possibilities for partners. Think of history where the population was sparse in many areas. I know it's hard think of this today when so many people populate this country. I hope this helps in answering part of your query. In my own case I can tell you that my native heritage quest has been limited because they never made it on the rolls. Jerry(Jeri) Sammons Beitel ________________________________________ From: choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com <choctaw-surnames-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Jillian Tolley via <choctaw-surnames@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:04 AM To: CHOCTAW-SURNAMES@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHOCTAW-SURNAMES] Bacon family, Choctaw I've recently started doing some family geneology research and I have a few questions.. Im new at this so please bear with me... I have noticed that the females in my family, including myself, all have the name Susan somewhere in our names. Susan is my middle name, my grandmother's birth name was Susan, and so was her mother's. I was wondering if this was just a traditional thing that applied to just my family or was it common practice? My grandmother was born in 1913... my great grandfather is Silas Bacon dawes card #894 enrollment #2373 (1870-1927). He had numerous children with quite a few different women. There are no official marriage records that I am aware of. One of Silas's "wives" , Sallie Bacon dawes card #894, enrollment #2374 had a daughter Susan Bacon dawes card# 894, enrollment # 2377. On the Choctaw Roll Susan Bacon's father is listed as James Durant of Jackson County, and it also states that Silas Bacon is Susan Bacon's Step father. After Sallie Bacon had passed away in 1911, Silas and Susan Bacon gave birth to my Grandmother Susan Irene Bacon on 8 September 1913. Were those kinds of relationships normal back then? Seems really strange to me. My grandmother never spoke too much about her parents other than the fact that they died when she was little. Also, I've hit a dead end with Silas Bacon's parents. On the enrollment card it states his father as Dennis Bacon and mother was Litey Bacon both were dead during the time of enrollment and died in Cedar county, Antlers Indian Territory. Any information or push in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jillian S. Tolley Choctaw Indian History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/chostawhist.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHOCTAW-SURNAMES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've recently started doing some family geneology research and I have a few questions.. Im new at this so please bear with me... I have noticed that the females in my family, including myself, all have the name Susan somewhere in our names. Susan is my middle name, my grandmother's birth name was Susan, and so was her mother's. I was wondering if this was just a traditional thing that applied to just my family or was it common practice? My grandmother was born in 1913... my great grandfather is Silas Bacon dawes card #894 enrollment #2373 (1870-1927). He had numerous children with quite a few different women. There are no official marriage records that I am aware of. One of Silas's "wives" , Sallie Bacon dawes card #894, enrollment #2374 had a daughter Susan Bacon dawes card# 894, enrollment # 2377. On the Choctaw Roll Susan Bacon's father is listed as James Durant of Jackson County, and it also states that Silas Bacon is Susan Bacon's Step father. After Sallie Bacon had passed away in 1911, Silas and Susan Bacon gave birth to my Grandmother Susan Irene Bacon on 8 September 1913. Were those kinds of relationships normal back then? Seems really strange to me. My grandmother never spoke too much about her parents other than the fact that they died when she was little. Also, I've hit a dead end with Silas Bacon's parents. On the enrollment card it states his father as Dennis Bacon and mother was Litey Bacon both were dead during the time of enrollment and died in Cedar county, Antlers Indian Territory. Any information or push in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jillian S. Tolley

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