I'm confused, I thought Chahta and Chiksa, brothers was a legend. Brooke Patton, 12 years old, Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: <RRowell@aol.com> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > Choctaw in our language is "Chahta." Chahta was the name of one of the > brothers, Chahta and Chiksa, who led the tribe from the direction of the > setting sun to Mississippi, according to one of our two origin stories. The > brothers split when they came to the Mississippi, with Chiksa going north and > Chahta south. Their bands became the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes. > > Ron > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > >

Some folks call "origin stories" legends, or myths. All cultures have origin stories/legends/myths - the one most Western (read Western European) people know is the Adam and Eve story/myth/legend (that's the majority, but it isn't a huge majority anymore). All cultures through the ages have asked questions about where they came from, and now have their stories to explain how the People came into being; how animals, places, and people got started and why, and how they have the traits that make them what or who they are. SandyM Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com Or Call: 561-924-7955 Sandy Mercer ----- Original Message ----- From: "brooke patton" <bluebird@crosstel.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > I'm confused, I thought Chahta and Chiksa, brothers was a legend. Brooke > Patton, 12 years old, Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RRowell@aol.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:41 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > Choctaw in our language is "Chahta." Chahta was the name of one of the > > brothers, Chahta and Chiksa, who led the tribe from the direction of the > > setting sun to Mississippi, according to one of our two origin stories. > The > > brothers split when they came to the Mississippi, with Chiksa going north > and > > Chahta south. Their bands became the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes. > > > > Ron > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >

Oops! I'm sorry! That should have gone to the CHAHTA listserv! S. Folk and Folk Arts Producers & Organizations: ** GrantWriting at Reasonable Costs ** email: gladesheritage@mindspring.com Or Call: 561-924-7955 Sandy Mercer

Brooke: No one can prove or disprove legends. They are what they are - oral traditions that have been passed down through the generations. I think the facts that the Choctaw and Chickasaw languages are so similar, and all the geographical details of this "legend" are accurate, show that there is some truth at it's root. dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: brooke patton <bluebird@crosstel.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > I'm confused, I thought Chahta and Chiksa, brothers was a legend. Brooke > Patton, 12 years old, Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RRowell@aol.com> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:41 PM > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > Choctaw in our language is "Chahta." Chahta was the name of one of the > > brothers, Chahta and Chiksa, who led the tribe from the direction of the > > setting sun to Mississippi, according to one of our two origin stories. > The > > brothers split when they came to the Mississippi, with Chiksa going north > and > > Chahta south. Their bands became the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes. > > > > Ron > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? Check our archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST >

Sir: thank you for the email, shortly after i posted, I mentioned this to my uncle, he told me somrthing similar to what you just posted. I did not intend any offense and certainly wasn't disagreeing with Mr. Rowell, I have tried to learn everything I could about Choctaw history and our people, I would never disagree with something my elders had said, I don't know MR. Rowell's email address, but I believe it was Ron Rowell, that I responded to. If you know him, please tell him I apologize if i hurt his feelings. Sincerely Brooke Patton 17/64 Choctaw 12 years old ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > Brooke: > > No one can prove or disprove legends. They are what they are - oral > traditions that have been passed down through the generations. I think the > facts that the Choctaw and Chickasaw languages are so similar, and all the > geographical details of this "legend" are accurate, show that there is some > truth at it's root. > > dusty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: brooke patton <bluebird@crosstel.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > I'm confused, I thought Chahta and Chiksa, brothers was a legend. Brooke > > Patton, 12 years old, Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <RRowell@aol.com> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:41 PM > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > Choctaw in our language is "Chahta." Chahta was the name of one of the > > > brothers, Chahta and Chiksa, who led the tribe from the direction of the > > > setting sun to Mississippi, according to one of our two origin stories. > > The > > > brothers split when they came to the Mississippi, with Chiksa going > north > > and > > > Chahta south. Their bands became the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the quotes > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? > Check our archives at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Brooke: I find no offense to anyone in your message. Just answering as a point of instruction, since I noticed that you were a young person. The problem with e-mail is that it's so easily misinterpreted since we can't see each other's facial expression or hear tone of voice. Happens all the time (grin). dusty ----- Original Message ----- From: brooke patton <bluebird@crosstel.net> To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > Sir: thank you for the email, shortly after i posted, I mentioned this to my > uncle, he told me somrthing similar to what you just posted. I did not > intend any offense and certainly wasn't disagreeing with Mr. Rowell, I have > tried to learn everything I could about Choctaw history and our people, I > would never disagree with something my elders had said, I don't know MR. > Rowell's email address, but I believe it was Ron Rowell, that I responded > to. If you know him, please tell him I apologize if i hurt his feelings. > Sincerely > > Brooke Patton > 17/64 Choctaw > 12 years old > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dusty" <dustyc@microgear.net> > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > Brooke: > > > > No one can prove or disprove legends. They are what they are - oral > > traditions that have been passed down through the generations. I think > the > > facts that the Choctaw and Chickasaw languages are so similar, and all the > > geographical details of this "legend" are accurate, show that there is > some > > truth at it's root. > > > > dusty > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: brooke patton <bluebird@crosstel.net> > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > I'm confused, I thought Chahta and Chiksa, brothers was a legend. Brooke > > > Patton, 12 years old, Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <RRowell@aol.com> > > > To: <CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:41 PM > > > Subject: [CHOCTAW-SE] Re: Meaning of "Choctaw" > > > > > > > > > > Choctaw in our language is "Chahta." Chahta was the name of one of > the > > > > brothers, Chahta and Chiksa, who led the tribe from the direction of > the > > > > setting sun to Mississippi, according to one of our two origin > stories. > > > The > > > > brothers split when they came to the Mississippi, with Chiksa going > > north > > > and > > > > Chahta south. Their bands became the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes. > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > Send msg. to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > quotes > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > DON'T FORGET OUR ARCHIVES. Got a question? Looking for ancestor's name? > > Check our archives at: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Try Markie and Fay's CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST pages at http://freepages.cultures.rootsweb.com/~choctaw/index.html for CHOCTAW Muster Rolls, Orphans lists, censuses, land records, etc. >