Thank you, Tammy J. that is what mydaughter has been looking for. :) On 5/25/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > I remember when my daughter and I searched those micro fish rolls, the > names were mixed up. > > > On 5/25/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jane, This is the link to the index on that site. > > http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/native-americans-final-rolls.html > > > > I took a quick look at the "R"s and did not find any Ralph listed. > > > > Tammy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto: [email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:32 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > Thank you, though I was asking for the micro fish ones. That was where > > my > > daughter said she found Ralph roll number before. She lost the info > > because > > of a hard drive failure. > > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > This is the census cards > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php > > > > > > This is the Roll index > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:20 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the > > card > > > > to > > > > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and > > > > > that > > > > is > > > > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two > > other > > > > people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out > > to be > > > > his > > > > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the > > female. > > > > > > > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not > > listed > > > on > > > > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been > > inrolled. > > > > The > > > > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And > > she > > > is > > > > listed as intermarried white. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane > > are > > > > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. > > Also > > > > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also > > > listed > > > > as > > > > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not > > be. > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in > > > 1878, > > > > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have > > doubt > > > > that > > > > is > > > > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, > > and > > > > Searle > > > > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see > > if > > > > there > > > > > > is > > > > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted > > any > > > > > > info. > > > > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. > > It > > > > can > > > > > > be > > > > > > viewed > > > > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the > > posted > > > by > > > > > > the > > > > > > email address provided. > > > > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, > > don't > > > > forget > > > > > > to > > > > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get > > results > > > > that > > > > > > list > > > > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > > > > > > ou > > > > > > rce,notes > > > > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > > > > AND lname_id= > > > > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and > > enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > > > > Sex: M > > > > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, > > Fort Worth, > > > > Texas, > > > > > > who > > > > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > > > > NAIL search > > > > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 > > > > > this > > > > > > year. > > > > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name > > was > > > > > > Searle > > > > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found > > Searle, > > > > Irene > > > > > > at > > > > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane > > Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > > > > lessons, > > > > > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it > > to > > > the > > > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to > > the > > > > list...write to me at [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN > > RESOURCE > > > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, > > newsletters, > > > lookups, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > > quotes > > > and spelled correctly. > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, > > nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, language. > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the quotes, > > nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane

Tammy J., my daughter wants me to ask you what the NR is for? She is wondering if it is for no relation? On 5/25/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you, Tammy J. that is what mydaughter has been looking for. :) > > > On 5/25/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I remember when my daughter and I searched those micro fish rolls, the > > names were mixed up. > > > > > > On 5/25/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Jane, This is the link to the index on that site. > > > http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/native-americans-final-rolls.html > > > > > > I took a quick look at the "R"s and did not find any Ralph listed. > > > > > > Tammy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto: [email protected]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:32 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > Thank you, though I was asking for the micro fish ones. That was where > > > my > > > daughter said she found Ralph roll number before. She lost the info > > > because > > > of a hard drive failure. > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > This is the census cards > > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php > > > > > > > > This is the Roll index > > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected] ] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:20 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > > > Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of > > > the card > > > > > to > > > > > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards > > > and > > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two > > > other > > > > > people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out > > > to be > > > > > his > > > > > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the > > > female. > > > > > > > > > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not > > > listed > > > > on > > > > > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been > > > inrolled. > > > > > The > > > > > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. > > > And she > > > > is > > > > > listed as intermarried white. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto: [email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > > > > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane > > > are > > > > > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. > > > Also > > > > > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also > > > > > > > listed > > > > > as > > > > > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not > > > be. > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts < [email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born > > > in > > > > 1878, > > > > > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have > > > doubt > > > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for > > > Isaac, and > > > > > Searle > > > > > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see > > > if > > > > > there > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > another person researching that name, and if they have > > > submitted any > > > > > > > info. > > > > > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife > > > Jane. It > > > > > can > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > viewed > > > > > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the > > > posted > > > > by > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > email address provided. > > > > > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, > > > don't > > > > > forget > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get > > > results > > > > > that > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard > > > Time, > > > > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > > > > > > > > ou > > > > > > > rce,notes > > > > > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > > > > > AND lname_id= > > > > > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and > > > enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > > > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > > > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > > > > > Sex: M > > > > > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > > > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, > > > Fort Worth, > > > > > Texas, > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > > > > > NAIL search > > > > > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. > > > 1 > > > > this > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers > > > name was > > > > > > > Searle > > > > > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found > > > Searle, > > > > > Irene > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane > > > Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > > > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > > > > > lessons, > > > > > > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it > > > to > > > > the > > > > > list. Write to me, the listowner, at > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it > > > to the > > > > > list...write to me at [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information. Try Judy White's NATIVE AMERICAN > > > RESOURCE > > > > CENTER at http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native for rolls, > > > newsletters, > > > > lookups, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE.... > > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "unsubscribe" without the > > > quotes > > > > and spelled correctly. > > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, > > > language. > > > Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > > > quotes, > > > nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > To subscribe to CHAHTA-L list discussions on history, culture, > > > language. Send msg. to [email protected] > > > Put "one" word in "body" of message:... "subscribe" without the > > > quotes, nothing in the subject line, turn off signatures. > > > Nothing in the subject line... Turn off signatures....... > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane