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    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees
    2. Jane Stetts

    3. Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed as Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt that is > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and Searle > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if there > > is > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > info. > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It can > > be > > viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > the > > email address provided. > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't forget > > to > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results that > > list > > the surname in alpha order. > > Fran Bolton > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,sou > > rce,notes > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > AND lname_id= > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > Tribe: Choctaw > > Record Type: enrollment > > Sex: M > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > > who > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > year. > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > Searle > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene > > at > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane

    05/24/2006 05:01:54
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees
    2. Jane Stetts

    3. It looks like Ella was the child of Frank and Silvia Standley. Jane On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed as > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt that is > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and Searle > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > > > there is > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > info. > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > > > can be > > > viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > > the > > > email address provided. > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > > > forget to > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > > > that list > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,sou > > > rce,notes > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > AND lname_id= > > > surnames.id and tribe_id= tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > Sex: M > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > > > Texas, who > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > > > NAIL search > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > > year. > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > Searle > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > > > Irene at > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > > > lessons, articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane

    05/24/2006 05:05:14
    1. RE: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees
    2. Tammy J.

    3. Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the card to make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and that is most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two other people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out to be his parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the female. Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not listed on the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been inrolled. The only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And she is listed as intermarried white. -----Original Message----- From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed as Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt that is > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and Searle > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if there > > is > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > info. > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It can > > be > > viewed at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > the > > email address provided. > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't forget > > to > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results that > > list > > the surname in alpha order. > > Fran Bolton > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s ou > > rce,notes > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > AND lname_id= > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > Tribe: Choctaw > > Record Type: enrollment > > Sex: M > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, Texas, > > who > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its NAIL search > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > year. > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > Searle > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, Irene > > at > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy lessons, > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > -- > > Jane > -- Jane ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected]

    05/24/2006 05:15:06
    1. Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees
    2. Jane Stetts

    3. Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? Jane On 5/24/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a copy of the card > to > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census cards and that > is > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and then two other > people with the same last name as parents they most often turn out to be > his > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of the female. > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves are not listed on > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have been inrolled. > The > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to James. And she is > listed as intermarried white. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac or Jane are > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were parents. Also > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them are also listed > as > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it may not be. > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. Being born in 1878, > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. I have doubt > that > is > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers for Isaac, and > Searle > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family trees to see if > there > > > is > > > another person researching that name, and if they have submitted any > > > info. > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with wife Jane. It > can > > > be > > > viewed > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can contact the posted by > > > the > > > email address provided. > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those names, don't > forget > > > to > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you will get results > that > > > list > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > ou > > > rce,notes > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE main.id='242828' > > > AND lname_id= > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > Sex: M > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, Fort Worth, > Texas, > > > who > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards for its > NAIL search > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 on Aug. 1 this > > > year. > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her fathers name was > > > Searle > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We found Searle, > Irene > > > at > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? Try Rusty Lang's website at > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~impson/ for censuses, genealogy > lessons, > > > articles, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jane > > > > > > -- > Jane > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna' WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list. Write to me, the listowner, at [email protected] > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > Got a PROBLEM?? Got a GRIPE?? Just wanna'WHINE?? Don't post it to the > list...write to me at [email protected] > > -- Jane

    05/24/2006 05:19:30