Good Luck, I hope you find what you are looking for. Tammy -----Original Message----- From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees Thank you very much for your help. My daughter said we can pay 10 bucks to have somebody in Texas help us with our search. That may be best. :) On 5/25/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > So nobody else on the card applied for the rolls? > > Jane > > > On 5/25/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > No James Franklin Standley also has NR listed under roll. Only Ella and > > James would have applied for a roll number on that card. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:44 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > Well Ella is the only one with a NR next to her name on our card. > > > > On 5/25/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Not sure. I know if I took the time to look up all those cards I sure > > > would > > > have recorded the roll numbers. They are on the census cards. Now > > some > > > people died before the rolls were finalized and their numbers were > > > stricken > > > from the rolls. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:34 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > Why was that? > > > > > > On 5/25/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > No it means "not recorded" it is referring to the roll number. The > > > person > > > > who compiled the information did not record the roll number. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:12 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > > > Tammy J., my daughter wants me to ask you what the NR is for? She is > > > > > > wondering if it is for no relation? > > > > > > > > On 5/25/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, Tammy J. that is what mydaughter has been looking for. > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/25/06, Jane Stetts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember when my daughter and I searched those micro fish > > rolls, > > > the > > > > > > names were mixed up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/25/06, Tammy J. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane, This is the link to the index on that site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.archives.gov/research/arc/native-americans-final-rolls.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took a quick look at the "R"s and did not find any Ralph > > listed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto: [email protected] ] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:32 PM > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, though I was asking for the micro fish ones. That > > was > > > > where > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > daughter said she found Ralph roll number before. She lost the > > > > > info > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > of a hard drive failure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the census cards > > > > > > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the Roll index > > > > > > > > http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalindex.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto:[email protected] ] > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:20 PM > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a link please for looking in Daws rolls? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Tammy J. < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that's why I said likely. You would need to get a > > copy > > > of > > > > > > > the card > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > make sure. But I have look at a lot of the Choctaw census > > > cards > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > most often the case. If you have a young man listed and > > then > > > two > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > people with the same last name as parents they most often > > turn > > > > out > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > parents. The other parents listed would be the parents of > > the > > > > > > > female. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also what I am saying is that Isaac and Jane them selves > > are > > > not > > > > > > > listed > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > the Dawes rolls. Only James Franklin Standley would have > > been > > > > > > > inrolled. > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > only way for Ella to be listed is if she were married to > > > James. > > > > > > > And she > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > listed as intermarried white. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Jane Stetts [mailto: [email protected]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:02 PM > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CHOCTAW-SE] Choctaw Original Enrollees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy J., I looked at that myself. I do not see that Isaac > > or > > > > Jane > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > listed as parents to Standleys. I only see that they were > > > > parents. > > > > > > > Also > > > > > > > > > shown that Standley is also on the same card, two of them > > are > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > listed > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > Parents. It could be that they were parents of Ella and it > > may > > > > not > > > > > > > be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Jane Stetts < [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fran Bolton, thank you, only the dates do not match. > > Being > > > > born > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 1878, > > > > > > > > > > he would have been a child of only 6 years old in 1884. > > I > > > have > > > > > > > doubt > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > a valid statement. I even have social security numbers > > for > > > > > > > Isaac, and > > > > > > > > > Searle > > > > > > > > > > Ralph as well as place and dates of their deaths. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LadyDragon, one way is to look at Rootsweb Family > > trees to > > > > see > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > another person researching that name, and if they have > > > > > > > > > submitted any > > > > > > > > > > > info. > > > > > > > > > > > There was one result, searching for Isaac Ralph, with > > wife > > > > > > > Jane. It > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > viewed > > > > > > > > > > > > > at:http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ar_families&id=I4402 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on Jane's name to view more info. You can > > contact > > > the > > > > > > > posted > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > email address provided. > > > > > > > > > > > Another way is to simple do a Google search on those > > > names, > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > forget > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > put the last name first in one search, so that you > > will > > > get > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > > > the surname in alpha order. > > > > > > > > > > > Fran Bolton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/24/2006 9:14:51 P.M. Central > > Standard > > > > > > > Time, > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Database = Native American DataSELECT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surname,fname,tribe,type,enrollment_type,age,sex,blood_pct,card_no,roll_no,s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ou > > > > > > > > > > > rce,notes > > > > > > > > > > > FROM main,surnames,tribes,enrollment WHERE > > > main.id='242828' > > > > > > > > > > > AND lname_id= > > > > > > > > > > > surnames.id and tribe_id=tribes.id and > > > > > > > enrollment.main_id='242828' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native American Data for Isaac Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: *Ralph, Isaac* > > > > > > > > > > > Tribe: Choctaw > > > > > > > > > > > Record Type: enrollment > > > > > > > > > > > Sex: M > > > > > > > > > > > Enrollment Type: P (Parent) > > > > > > > > > > > Card No.: 5712 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Credit belongs to the staff of SW National Archives, > > > > > > > Fort Worth, > > > > > > > > > Texas, > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > compiled the names from the Dawes Enrollment Cards > > > for its > > > > > > > > > NAIL search > > > > > > > > > > > site< http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jane Ralph is also on that card. My mother will be 82 > > on > > > > Aug. > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > > > > She was born in 1924. Her name is Irene Ralph. Her > > > fathers > > > > > > > name was > > > > > > > > > > > Searle > > > > > > > > > > > David Ralph born Feb. 8, 1899. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 53 years old. My daughter is 32 years old. We > > found > > > > > > > Searle, > > > > > > > > > Irene > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > the same address in the 1930's census records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any way to find more info on Isaac and Jane > > > > > > > Ralph please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > Need more CHOCTAW information?? 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