This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/4gC.2ACE/459.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The Crowder line is not my direct line, but was connected thru my 4th g-grandfather's 1st cousin Martha Patsy Goins..I don't have a lot of info on the Crowders, tho they are my relatives....Eli W. Crowder was married to Patsy Goins, but he was passed on before the Dawes rolls were final..Patsy and her children were on there I believe...I will try to find out more and let you know if I do... Barbara